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Al Gore, James Hansen, and Civil Disobedience
In his recent global warming op-ed in the New York Times ("The Big Melt," August 16, 2007) , Nicholas Kristof reported on a conversation with Al Gore in which the former Vice-President said: "I can't understand why there aren't rings of young people blocking bulldozers, and preventing them from constructing coal-fired power plants." His comment was a reaction to the ever-quickening pace of polar ice meltoff, with all its catastrophic implications, and the huge role played by coal-fired power plants in advancing our demise through global warming.
Gore's comment was also strikingly similar to a recent quote from Dr. James Hansen, the top climate scientist at NASA: "It seems to me that young people, especially, should be doing whatever is necessary to block construction of dirty (no CCS) coal-fired power plants."
What does it mean when one of the top scientific leaders ringing the alarm on global warming, along with a top political leader, both suggest, in so many words, nonviolent direct action (or civil disobedience) to confront the challenge of climate change?
Clearly both men must realize the importance of nonviolent resistance in social change efforts of this magnitude and agree, if only subconsciously, with historian Howard Zinn's observation that "Protest beyond the law is not a departure from democracy. It is absolutely essential to it." (Dr. Hansen, for his part, goes on to quote the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution at some length.)
Gore and Hansen must both know that nonviolent direct action has been a significant catalyst in nearly every major social change movement in U.S. (and world) history, starting in this country with the Boston Tea Party and extending through the anti-slavery, woman's suffrage, labor rights, civil rights, environmental and anti-war movements. Nonviolent direct action can dramatize an injustice or danger to the general public as few other actions can. It both provokes other people to act and speak - often people who had previously been silent - and it opens up political space for them to do so. Nonviolent actions are acts of courage that inspire others to follow. They are acts of leadership.
The twin quotes also reflect the extraordinary urgency of our predicament. As Jay Gulledge, senior scientist at the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, notes in Kristof's column, "Over and over again, we're finding that models correctly predict the patterns of change but understate their magnitude."
Or their speed. According to the May 2007 report from the National Snow and Ice Data Center, polar ice is melting significantly faster than computer models of climate calculate, and the Arctic Sea could be free of summer ice by 2020 - 30 years earlier than the recent prediction by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Clearly, we are running out of time.
What is strikingly curious about the quotes, however, is the suggestion by both men that "young people" need to be doing this. Clearly young people will have to suffer the disastrous effects of global warming longer than older people. But that does not make the responsibility any less on the older heads among us to take any and all actions necessary to stop the planet-destroying calculus of carbon emissions. Indeed, one would think that those who are older are more culpable for the current condition of our planet than those who are younger, and therefore more responsible for taking dramatic action to confront the crisis.
I would also imagine that young people (and I can only imagine, being middle-aged myself) are, while grateful for recognition of their vital role in the movement, probably less than enthusiastic to have this particular imperative dumped on them and them alone.
Personally, I pray for and will gladly follow leadership from any quarter and age group. But I expect it from those in the climate change movement who are older, more experienced, and more influential. Especially when it comes to nonviolent resistance. I know, for instance, that when I or younger activists organize nonviolent direct actions, a relative few people will hear and join us, and we are lucky to get more than a few stories outside the independent media. If Al Gore were to actually call for and lead such an action it is likely that thousands would join him, and the story would be splashed across the mainstream media for all of America to see.
None of this should be read as criticism of Mr. Gore's incredible efforts on global warming. He has arguably been the single most effective (and active) person on the planet in raising the clarion call. But perhaps now his leadership is requiring even more of him. After all, if you truly recognize the extreme emergency and catastrophic danger inherent in global warming, how long can one wait before taking the most dramatic, effective and necessary actions in response - as opposed to wondering out loud why those younger and less influential than yourself aren't doing so?
Of course, this is a question that everyone who understands the reality of global warming needs to be asking themselves right now. How long can any of us wait? As with all revolutionary changes, forging a new, sustainable society will require us to take risks, make sacrifices, and endure suffering - all hallmarks of nonviolence. And nonviolent blockades of coal-fired power plants, Mr. Gore and Dr. Hansen are correct in noting, would be an excellent place to start.
Gordon Clark is the convener of the National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance, www.iraqpledge.org

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The "Four dead in Ohio" bands of the day are just as plentiful,there just not mainstream. Look up lyrics by bands like Bad Religion,NOFX ,Anti-Flag and many others that are not on the corperate owned radio and tv.
Once you unplug from the B.S. that is being force feed to the sheeple and begin the search for the truth you might find that we all have more in common than meets the eye.
Read " The Great Turning" by David C . Korten
We all need to step up ,WE are the leaders we've been waiting for.
dgoodin:
Please research the TOB (time of observation) and homogeneity adjustments that are made to every time series in the GISS databases. These are made by Dr. Hansen, et al. Please feel free to ask him how they are done. He won't tell you. We don't know how he adjusts station records. What we do know is that governments are spending billions of dollars and we are apparently now being asked to offer up our children based on this gentleman's secret mathematics.
As for what Mr. McIntyre did, while attempting to reverse engineer the adjustments made to GISS data records (source code and methods not available) when he noticed what seemed to be a small error in the post 2000 data. The folks at GISS have fixed the code (still secret) and hence changed the adjustments they make to every temperature time series in the database.
As far as we know, if Dr. Hansen were to make his methods public, we may find that we're in much more serious trouble than we thought and/or we're looking at the wrong cause of the warming.
Well seeing how Gore did nothing for the environment during the Clinton years(I recall he was even helpful in the pathetic Makah whale hunt of 1999)he has quite a bit of gall accusing others of not doing enough to fight something that would require serving prison time for.
Why isnt Gore's son out blocking coal power plants? Is it because he is too busy getting high?
Why isnt Gore out there blocking the coal power plants?
Global warming is way bigger than few people blocking a factory.It isnt enough for Gore to put on a concert then expect everyone to do the work while he sits back pretending to be a messiah.
And young people have to worry about getting on with their daily lives--being told the world is going to end--while we have jack-off imbecilies like Bush as leader, please...its enough to cause anyone to tune out...lead by example Gore.
Fellow Dreamers:
I agree with kelmer's comments: Gore and Hansen need to lead by their own
examples. Hansen and Gore have been important in raising the science debate,
persistently promulgating, fighting the White House, but they also, just like much of the progressive left, including "young people" need to lead by their
example.
We've got plenty of examples of non-violent civil disobedients: Thoreau,
Gandi, ML King, Zinn, Daniel Ellsberg, etc. None of them were "young people"
when they started their fire.
take care all,
clrtom
Let's get going
Well placed and deserved skepticism by the previous posters. I'm not to the point of using epithets, but I do so understand the anger.
We need to go down the rabbit hole and see the truth as it is.
As vice president, Al Gore may have faltered in pursuit of environmental reforms, but he was then in a subservient position--and he could not operate outside the directives of the president.
He advice and comments are now free of political directive and pressure–and reflect the consensus of the international scientific community..
Those who still debunk the consensus of the non political & dedicated international scientific community join Bush right wing's war on science, & our planet.
Rather than pursuing even modest effort to understand the effects and consequences of mans activities they follow the deceptive data issued by the right wing and energy cartel.
Evidence linking carbon pollution to warming has long been as close to certain as science can be. Its causes, consequences, and mitigation requirements have been documented by many dedicated environmental organizations including The Union of Concerned Scientists.
The dangerous manipulation of essential scientific data used by Bush's team to conceal and derail corrective measures for this threat and other vital environmental reforms has always been apparent--and all indicators show no change in their direction.
Often overlooked is the fact that the same measures needed to mitigate global warming would be necessary even if it were not an issue. Conservation, alternative energy development, anti- pollution refinements, etc are essential for other vital environmental reforms such as air and water quality, reductions in toxic waste generation, land preservation, etc.
Contrary to right wing assertions, greenhouse gas reduction measures could only improve our economy by lessening our trade deficits, and improving our security by reducing our dependance on foreign oil. We could also regain some of our lost world respect resulting from our opposition Kyoto while arrogantly contributing disproportionally to carbon pollution.
The immeasurable environmental and social destruction from our indifference to carbon pollution and related environmental measures can only worsen if we allow this reckless and unlearned president, guided by special interests to continue their war on our planet.
Al Gore and James Hansen take the easy out and dump responsiblity on "young people". they are so out of touch with "young people". they sit pontificate, then go home. sort of undercuts the good they are doing.
I'm not sure if Gore and Hansen meant it in this way, but in activism in general, from the war to environmental issues, there is definitely a shortage of young people.
While I am fortunate to live in an area with a large youthful organization dedicated to nonviolent disobedience and direct action (Pittsburgh Organizing Group), the average age of most of the the serious activist organizers is up there. In the recent DC march to Conyers office, the average age of the participants 40 to 60's as were it's leaders - Cindy Sheehan, Rev. Yearwood, Media Benjamin and others.
There is some hope - A new SDS has been founded. (http://studentsforademocraticsociety.org/) and is growing, and the lergely media-ignored anti global capitalism/world social forum organizations are largely young.
Asking where people "were" may be emotionally satisfying, but it's counter productive. Better to ask where they are now. Flawed though he might be, Gore has done more to advance public awareness of the problem than anyone I can think of, and Hanson has been the standard bearer for the scientific aspects of the problem. Personally, I think blocking bulldozers may have a certain telegenic appeal, but in the long run it won't solve the problem. Like it or not, the battle over global environmental change (which is about much, much more than just climate change) will be won not only by showing "regular" people that it's in their best interest to be concerned, but also by convincing the plutocrats they can make money while addressing the problem. I recently heard a talk by former president Clinton where he opined that green technology will be the key to a prosperous economy in the near future, and whoever concentrates on developing it will be this century's big winner. As much as I hate to admit it, I think he's right. So, I'll hold my nose and work to make that happen. In the mean time, I'll continue to do my research to better understand how disease processes will work in the changing world -- I guess that's my alternative to standing in front of a bulldozer.
Al Gore is a pathetic example of leadership. He is more opportunist than leader, living as he does in a huge mansion in Nashville that burns up more power than a dozen working class homes. His failure to push for environmental legislation when he was in power, says all that needs to be said about his personal politics. What is needed here is an EXAMPLE for how people in this culture can live their lives using far less energy. Carbon offsets (of the kind Gore uses to excuse his piggish excess)are for rich people to use to assuage their own guilty consciences while they continue to consume like pigs.
Instead of urging others to boycott the construction of new plants, while Gore continues to fly around all over the world warning us about what we already know is happening, why does he not set an example by using less, and urging us all to do the same? There are no technological solutions that will enable us to stave off global warming while we continue to consume (business as usual) in our auto-centered wasteful and unconscious American lifestyle.
Yada, yada, yada. You know you'd all throw your vote to him if he gave you the chance. Like it or not, he's the only hope for us here on this blog. Kucinich, YES! But, when it comes to getting a complacent youth energized, we'll need star power. It's unfortunate.
Star power? Watching Al Gore is like taking a very effective sleeping pill. If Kucinich were allowed the kind of media cover given to Gore, things would change.
Gore should've fought for us and himself, back in 2000 when he just handed the victory to the one who is leading this country now. Yeah, thats my question to you, gore, why didn't you stand up to take what, at that time, was rightfuly yours,..... that is,when you had the chance? Maybe giving up without a fight was the lesson you taught that day. I liked your movie. Tex
Gore should've fought for us and himself, back in 2000 when he just handed the victory to the one who is leading this country now. Yeah, thats my question to you, gore, why didn't you stand up to take what, at that time, was rightfuly yours,..... that is,when you had the chance? Maybe giving up without a fight was the lesson you taught that day. I liked your movie. Kucinich 2008 Tex
taxrey ... you bring out what is the most important thing to note about Gore. Why should he get a second chance? Who's to say he won't do the same thing again?
Kucinich has no chance in 2008. He is running the same campaign he ran 4 years ago that achieved nothing. He is a good man with the right answers most of the time but will never be taken seriously by the voters.
You all better start looking at the candidate that comes closes to the progressive views and push that candidate to forefront.
Speaking from Iowa I have all but decided on Obama though Richardson would be a good alternative if he could just get his act together...
Meg,
Exactly, but Gore creates his own media. Corporate media has and will continue to avoid Kucinich. I was at a rally in LA where Dennis showed up. No other candidate did. It was a rally for Single Payer Universal Health Care. He gave a great speech. That night was there a single mention in the news? No way. They go out of their way to ignore him. They can't do that as easily with Al. I'm voting Kucinich, but if it comes down to Al in the end, we'd all be doing ourselves a disservice not to vote for him, yes?
Coal debate is interesting but does corn ethanol policy for gasoline increase oil use and oil profit?
Some folks think so
* NO on California "car tax" AB118 (Nunez)
* NO on AB616 (Jones) unless amended
* NO on SB23 (Cogdill) unless amended
* Clean Air Performance Professionals (CAPP) supports a Smog Check inspection & repair audit, gasoline oxygen cap and elimination of dual fuel CAFÉ credit to cut car impact over 50% in 1 year.
* Some folks believe corn ethanol in gasoline increases oil use and oil profit
* Ethanol uses lots of water
* A Smog Check audit would cut toxic car impact in ½ in 1 year. Chief Sherry Mehl, DCA/BAR, has never found out if what is broken on a Smog Check failed car gets fixed, never
* A corn ethanol waiver would stop a $1 billion California oil refinery welfare program coming from the federal government @ $0.51 per gallon of ethanol used
* About 60,000 barrels per day of the oil used by cars is allowed by the "renewable fuel" CAFE credit
Clean Air Performance Professionals
ruthru ... NO MATTER WHAT we have to get rid of what we got, but OMFG, how I hate this lack of choice, especially when there is a brilliant possibility such as Dennis. (gutteral scream)
It's weird to see more people bitching about Gore than raging against the machine.
The bosses are building more dirty coal plants. What should we do?
Bite off their ears! Bite off their noses! Bite them in the neck!
Vampires for clean air!
(You think that's stupid? What would you call bitching about Gore while the world burns down?)
Al Gore didn't give up during the 2000 election until the five Supremes ignored the Constitution and blocked the recount in Florida. What was he supposed to do after that? My gripe is with Kerry who threw in the towel instead of maintaining legal court standing to challenge the illegalities of 2004 in Ohio. Dodd pressed him to do that. Yup, the same man who is now running for president. hmmm? Every time, save one, I participated in a citizen group, I found few younger than 50. It is as though our young people have never been taught how to be citizens. The exception was a meeting at a library I attended that turned out to be young adults calling themselves anarchists. Being steeped in the way of the old anarchists, I can tell you that it gave me pause. But they seemed to be the sorts who wanted to do what Gore suggests. You can bet if they get arrested they'll lose further student loans and many job opportunities. I do not participate in demonstrations because I am chemically reactive from having been exposed to a toxic waste dump near my home as a child. I'd fear for my life. I'm responsible for my 87 year old mother and and a disabled (lead paint poisoned) son. A woman has got to know her limitations.
Dear ruthru,
I hope when the licenses of the LA tv and radio stations come up for renewal, you will be able to testify against them. They are clearly not performing their public obligations and their licenses should not be renewed.
Dennis Kucinich is the best candidate in my opinion. The corporate owners of the M$M are obviously afraid of him. He needs the people as much as the people need him. If he is your choice, don't be afraid to let everyone you can talk to know it.
boys... don't look for al gore, james hansen or some other "super political leader" to solve your problem - so you can blog about how these people are spineless or immoral.
it is in your hands.
Gore bashing while Bush makes it easier to blow off tops of mountains to get at small veins of coal.
It wasn't Clinton or Gore that wouldn't allow quite a few wilderness areas to take shape.
If anyone believes that just showing up for peaceful rallies will change anything then you ought to get in line and purchase The Brooklyn Bridge.
Why don't we just admit it all we can do is whisper instead of scream. Are souls for the most part are corporate owned.
Today's slavery has nothing to do with the color of your skin. It is equal oportunity slavery.
Al Gore has never proclaimed himself a Savoir . He just wants you and I to also take up the cross with him with millions of others.
The Truth is a thing that is kept secret anymore. Why you all will gladly belly up to get your supply of Soylent Green .
No, I am not shooting the true believers in the foot here. My attempt will not even change a single mind of them.
I guess I write these things mostly so someone coming here from space in a thousand years can get the idea how this planet lost most of it's lifeforms. Who knows maybe that same message was left up on MARS.
Blogs have become the modern-day way of "taking action". It's laughable, really, because it's so lazy.
The vitriol in earlier posts is highly suspect, highly questionable.
During the Viet Nam war, we put on our armbands, left our classes, and took to the streets to protest and throw stones through government windows and eggs at police. We turned on our radios and heard the best bands singing songs like "[Four Dead in] Ohio."
Today, angry people bang away at their keyboards and blame people like Al Gore for not doing more. And they never, ever move on, forever stuck in gridlock in the past, never forgetting or forgiving NAFTA...or whatever.
suresh is right.
Grow up boys and girls...whining only goes so far.
John,
Believe me, I flaunt my autographed sign every time I get the chance.
By his silence in the Clinton machine, he became complicit. Gore never raised a legitimate issue when
he ran for the Presidency. Here is hoping that he and his buddy are not fronts for the Nuclear Industry.
Gore should ask Hillary some questions in Public if he
is sincere. Ask her about Nafta especially when he was the silent Vice President. How many bites at the apple does he want? Why should we believe anything he says now?
WHOA! Hold on (most) everybody. The posts here are a perfect example of 'taking things out of context', 'mis-interpretation', and 'putting words into people's mouths'.
Gore did not, anywhere in his comment, say young people 'should' be doing ANYTHING. Nor did he 'dump' anything into their laps. All he did was say that he "didn't understand" why they aren't engaging in more protests, with regard to coal based plant construction. That is merely a commentary on the current state of activism, an observation if you will. I too am surprised more people, young or old, don't protest more. That doesn't mean that I or Al Gore are dumping the responsibility on anyone.
It is VERY important to not mix apples and oranges folks. Just because I say I like your red shoes, it doesn't mean I don't like your black ones. Al Gore has probably done more than almost any other human being alive to raise people's awareness about global warming. And you all are going to criticize him here for saying something he didn't say? This is how lynchings used to happen. Think people.
A. We have given everything else over to the kids..........new products designed with them in mind, entertianment, the public soundwaves, the art profession. I wish I could go out & get a PT job with pay = to a teenage boy!. And we've also given them our best propaganda!
B. Why jump all over Al Gore? Are you so scared of the really evil ones that it's more comfortable to be critical of someone who won't retaliate?
C. Ghandi wasn't crushed to death by a bulldozer driven by a mad zionist. Rachel Correy WAS!
D. Isn't that the real crux of the matter? The real opponant is a BIG BAD EVIL! the likes of which we haven't seen in your lifetimes unless you are over 61 or 62! I know I know Korea & Vietynam...........it was better sugar coated then. Not a clean sweep as we now realize!
How about this! The first Patriots threw the tea in the harbor.......................How about Walmart & Coca Cola products this time?
Nice to see the circular firing squad in action again.
We're past the heydey of 60's civil disobedience among the powerless. We should now be demanding some civil OBEDIENCE among the powerful.
And the strategy there is to encourage whistleblowers, attorneys, civic engagement, and especially the encouraging of young/new/lower-level law enforcement and regulatory officials to step up to the plate of management whenever their top/political superiors have been asleep at the wheel. Let's see some arrests all right. But not of kids chained to trees -- how about CEO's, fatcats, and the like openly disobeying laws?
Sorry folks but I will not join your chorus bitching that Al Gore is not doing enough. There are a thousand powerful politicians that have not made the effort Gore has made to be of some help. He has a weak stroke and a small paddle but he is pulling our way.
Most of the others are anchors or worse yet tugboats pulling the other way.
We are WAY too comfortable. In other countries, they are not so comfortable or (ahem) lazy. I really just hope this house of cards lasts another 15-20 years until I check out of the madhouse. About all I have any ability to change is my own behaviors, the rest of the world is pretty much on its own.
Veteran, '66-68
There could well be a larger reason for the lack of resistance or interest in the future. That is simply powerlessness. Most people in the US today are powerless zombies led by what they are told they want on TV. Computer geeks living another life on a computer where they feel they have some minescule chance of exerting control on their existance, even if it is a virtual one they were duped out of real money to experience!
And why shouldn't they feel this way with the conformist, brainwashing, narc on your neighbor for the slightest thing, they get in public schools and the mainstream media. And then there's the non-lethal but every bit as scarey weaponry that our government wouldn't hesitate to turn loose on them for assembling peacibly where they aren't wanted. Who would want to even feel like their skin is on fire, or sick to your stomach for no apparent reason other than microwave and other wavelength "ray guns". Where better to try them out than on your own people?
Then there's the lifestyle they all so desperately want, but will never have because there must be a drop in their standard of living to be able to share enough resources for all the rest of the world's population to have a little bit more. They are fighting that now by borrowing against their wages in the future thus becoming wage slaves willingly.
No, Al Gore has done enough. Let someone else, maybe there's someone with the selfless determination to help guide and protect others, like Ralph Nader, to get behind and start a third party to turn the government back to the people. But who and when. And don't tell me any democrat is that person.
Al Gore caved in 2000, but that doesn't make him Peace Warrior's "rat filth pathetic loser"; it makes him less than a hero. The Bush gang kicked his butt and he ran away and grew a beard. But he stuck to the message, put together his global warming road show and wrote a book. There's a work ethic to admire even if he didn't single handedly expose the Supreme Court's illegalities or kill Jeb Bush in a duel and disembowel his secretary of state.
The fact is that if he strolls onto the floor of the Democratic Convention, the nomination is his and he won't even have to ask.
I'd vote for him, maybe even work for him because I have never heard another leader talk about the environmental crisis as an opportunity to build a new economy.
Of course, I have to wonder if he would have the courage to face the entrenched corporate interests that would be locked and loaded? But I think the office might stiffen his spine.
Regarding dayjoe's comments (3:27 pm, 9/2):
"Kucinich ... will never be taken seriously by the voters.
You all better start looking at the candidate that comes closes[t] to the progressive views and push that candidate to forefront."
"Speaking from Iowa I have all but decided on Obama though Richardson would be a good alternative if he could just get his act together…"
It's not the voters who wouldn't take Kucinich seriously - it's the media who decide which candidates are worthy of discussion. Any of you watch the AFL-CIO sponsored debate at Soldier Field in Chicago? If you did, you know that Kucinich received the loudest and longest applause for his straightforward comments on a number of issues. Yet, the AP wire service story that came out immediately afterward did not mention him. The Reuters wire service photo that ran afterward did not have him in the photo. In the ABC "This Week" debate led by George Stephanopoulos, he did not even call on Kucinich until 26 minutes or so into the 90 minute "debate" - and afterward, in their summary, they airbrushed him out of photographs of the candidates. So, if you state that "voters won't take him seriously", you are basically falling in line behind the corporate media that are setting the parameters of the debate.
And, in the context of an article espousing civil disobedience to bring more attention to global warming, it is incredible that anyone who really cares about these issues would seriously consider supporting Obama. He is an original co-sponsor of the Coal-to-Liquid Fuel Promotion Act of 2007 (S.155), and even though he said in June that he would not support coal to liquid fuel conversion "unless it adhered to strict environmental standards" (note the caveat!), he remains a co-sponsor and has not withdrawn his support for the bill. If he's serious about it, he should walk the walk, and not just talk the talk.
By not supporting Kucinich (or Gore, if he were an actual candidate), you are compromising your progressive environmental ideals from the beginning. Only by supporting a candidate who actually supports these ideals will you pressure others like Obama, through shaping the Democratic Party platform, to get real about global warming. You can always compromise your ideals in November and vote for whomever gets the Democratic nomination. I'm especially disappointed that a Common Dreams reader from Iowa, who actually has the opportunity to set the nature of the debate, would kowtow to the corporate media and compromise progressive ideals from the beginning of the presidential nomination process.
Lots of foot-draggin' and finger-pointin' going on . Is that the national guilt complex kicking in? or just generational angst caused by a lack of guts?
Buy a new copy of the Monkey Wrench Gang, and maybe Hayduke Lives, and learn how to monkey wrench a few pieces of heavy equipment with a wrench and some Karo Syrup.
And then go to work. No publicity, no videos on UTube and the Worlds Most Wanted: just some quiet night work disabling the beast.
This is actually pretty effective resistance as long as you don't long for the bright lights of notoriety. If we each target one bulldozer, whether it's clear-cutting the corner lot down the block, or removing the last of the old growth forest to enable a coal fired power plant, We can strike a blow to the belly of the beast.
Try it, it's liberating!
"The bosses are building more dirty coal plants. What should we do?
Bite off their ears! Bite off their noses! Bite them in the neck!
Vampires for clean air!"
Actually, I rather like that plan, except that a sharper instrument should be aimed at a lower protruding (well, in most cases) organ -- imagine if the rulers knew that they risked being de-bagged every time they stepped out of their homes or their vehicles?
-- Gore's to be commended for "An Inconvenient Truth" and "The Assault on Reason", but we know that were he a candidate he would be making the same pledges to lobbyists & to AIPAC that the 'front-runners' have made . . .
PJD, I agree with you, I think the point has been missed (by most responding to this article).
I interpreted Mr. Gore's and Mr. Hansen's inquiry to be of a general nature, not specific. They may have well said it better, and avoided the confusion that apparently caused an eruption of vilified emotion, by just stating their concern that young people do not seem to be politically active today. People just took too literally their statements about circling the bulldozers, it appears to me.
On the general premise, I would have to agree. Compared to the late 1960s, middle-class young people haven't (so far) shown the political discontent and activism as back then. I speculate it's tied to their generation's preoccupation and self-absorption with materialism, technology, and buying into the culture of greed and destructive capitalism. Their parents, the Boomers, inundated them with material abundance from birth. This seems to have spawned an attitude of entitlement which they, seemingly, perceive as unending.
I have wondered, for some time, the same things as the authors -- why aren't young people more engaged? I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised that their eruption into politically active and concerned adults has just been delayed.
I remember when Gore put out EARTH IN THE BALANCE in the early 90s? I read the book and was hopeful.. But didn't really hear much after that...
I wonder.. if because of his role as VICE PRESIDENT he was pushed back into the shadows and not allowed to have a personal "agenda"... Unlike CHeney today, who has been the MOST powerful VP we have probably ever had.
VP's traditionally have been presidents in waiting... if that bullet comes.. they are there to stand up.. VPS were never really a major part of the administration.. had no role other than symbolic... Kind of like the first lady...
But yeah.. he really didn't appear to have a strong backbone in pushing for other things.... and therefore one of the reasons why I didn't vote for him.. and voted for Nader instead...
but I am more hopeful again.... and I am glad his movie came out.. and turned the tide a bit.
But I am appalled at the lack of civil disobedience. It may also be because the media refuses to cover it.
I am having constant arguments with this conservative over on my LJ about how Demonstations and Civil Disobedience are useless and how he feels they only serve to alienate "normal" folks with their "activism"...
WHich is SOOO ridiculous. Are folks afraid to get out there protest? Are we THAT lame that our society looks at folks taking to the streets with signs or folks who "trespass" to sit in an office in non violent solidarity..
Are we that afraid? Yes.. the laws have turned against folks who do this stuff.. THey NOW can be labled as terrorists under the Patriot Act.. That is dangerous.. BUT.. we MUST come together and fight that. That is a ploy to keep us in our houses afraid....
They tried it in the 60's during the Civil rights movement... are we going to let them win????
The two real questions to ask of ourselves are-- Do we have the will to become our own leaders? and, Are we afraid of civil disobedience? Because looking around us, after Katrina, Sept. 11, Iraq, the Bell murder in NYC, Guantanamo, current incarceration rates, and many many more obscured domestic events, we have to admit that this administration is not concerned with protecting the lives of the people of this country, and will pursue its own agenda with whatever means.
We need to look at the situation wisely and realistically, and with a mind to practical, effective action, and become our own leaders, every one of us, no matter what our age is.
"About all I have any ability to change is my own behaviors, the rest of the world is pretty much on its own."
True.
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"We need to look at the situation wisely and realistically, and with a mind to practical, effective action, and become our own leaders, every one of us, no matter what our age is."
True.
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"If I were to sit down with Al Gore, Elaine Kamarck, Jamie Gorelick and Chris Edley, I would expect their explanations would involve more obfuscating policy discussions but it would ultimately come down to a similar notion of going with the flow. As would the hundreds of thousands of highly credentialed, well-paid Americans who have actively lead the day-to-day implementation of policies that — when we pierce the veil — are really dictated by powerful private interests outside of the law as most believe it to be. All these policies and actions add up to genocide — of our families and communities and of all living things, both throughout America and around the world."
http://www.dunwalke.com/18_Through_the_Via_Dolorosa.htm
From the Solari web site: http://www.solari.com/
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We're being set up...again. Look at "reality", look at "practicality", and you will see the same shadows and illusions that have brought us to where we are. We simply must let go of our illusions of a "leader" who will lead us out of this mess. We are _it_ and we had better start looking outside the box and to ourselves and each other for the answers.
"...Dr. James Hansen, the top climate scientist at NASA..."
Ha-ha. Dr. James Hansen isn't even a climatologist. He's an astronomer & physicist. I'm an amateur astronomer. Does that make me an amateur climatologist? Or does one need to be a professional astronomer to qualify as an amateur climatologist?
I thought if a mathematician or physicist or statistician, or , dare I say it, astronomer, made remarks or published a paper that questioned the current pop science notions of global warming, we're supposed to say "What can he know about climate? He's not a climatologist!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen
JEFFERSON'S GUARDIAN said, "Their parents, the Boomers, inundated them with material abundance from birth. This seems to have spawned an attitude of entitlement which they, seemingly, perceive as unending." This is an observation I have thought about quite a lot. My friends with children (some never had any) face this issue as I do. All of our offspring are in their 20's and have NO political activism. At first I thought it was some kind of "child-rebels-against-parent" thing, as I have been an activist ALL my life. When I talk to my friends their children are the same way. These kids have a sense of ENTITLEMENT all right, but I think the fact many have been at least peripherally raised on media's messages plays into this false expectation big time.
How many souls are awake in their 20's? Around 30 many of us have fallen into job structures, binding family arrangements, and other fixed ties that restrict our freedoms. That's when we start doing some major thinking about what our lives mean. The big cosmic joke is that by the time the individual really awakens, his or her ties are already set. Of course we can quit jobs, break out of ties, etc but it's ironic that when we finally pursue truth, we find ourselves caught up in tangled webs.
I think the virtual realm plays a role, too. MANY now unconsciously see reality as something that can be altered the way one uses the channel changer on the T.V, or explores virtual reality via the computer throne.
And finally, I think it's sheer terror. It IS terrifying to look the many things worthy of our fear viably in "the face." To confront what global warming means in terms of actual species extinction rates (not to mention the toll in human loss), the actual threat of war in that an absolutely MAD never elected president has gutted every check and balance, usurped every thing of meaning... added to the reality of the US economy. I have always sought to be an informed, educated optimist, but these times ARE testing our souls. Indeed, our worst fears are being furthered and thus to honor our lives, the blessings of this impermanent world in the midst of willful chaos and active atrocity is to LIVE in a state of paradox. Little wonder why so many check out. The poor quality (in terms of nourishment) of food, the emphasis on pounding "music" and violence-as-entertainment, the use of alcohol/drugs/sleep medications, gambling, and related addictions show on several scales the severity of societal dysfunction. Because each aberration is judged solely in terms of its own category (or reference zone), the levels of abnormal function are not realized in any genuine sense.
While we're on the subject of James Hansen, why don't y'all drop him a line and ask him to release the source code and the method he uses to adjust the temperature data in the GISS temperature database at NASA?
Don't be disappointed, he won't tell you. He won't tell anyone. It's a secret.
I should think that if he wants America's children to put themselves in harms way based on his data calculations, he should at least tell us how he calculates that data, shouldn't he?
You can find him at
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/
The reason the call is going out to "young people" is because they have less to loose when the loyalCheneybush protest police and intel squads come down on your head. A college kid can withstand the arrest, the rubber bullets, the IRS audit, the No Fly List, the seized assets - but "older people," those with careers and a wife and kids and a house? Seeing as how this gang of war profiteering criminal traitors will out a CIA NOC agent without blinking to exact petty revenge and maintain their lies, destroying a protester's life would be like flicking a gnat off of their $5000 suits. (And I got the rubber bullet scars to prove it.)
Young people on the front lines, older people attacking from every other angle - boycotts, floods of letters, calls and emails to so-called Reps, viral message spreading, local organizing. Combined, the effect would be powerful. Sadly, the "young people" today have spent 7 years being brainwashed by the anti-American MSM and now have such a warped view of "real American values," they "agree" that protesters "aid and abet the enemy" while also believing that protesting is a waste of time - the two biggest worldwide protests in history were ignored, and it took over ten years of protesting before the Vietnam War was ended, and said ending had nothing to do with the protesters.
Thirty years of environmental protesting and we're in the worst shape ever. More than that spent protesting nukes, and we're building new ones. If you're a young person raised during the dark Cheneybush years, aware people are being arrested for wearing the "wrong" Tee shirt or displaying the "wrong" bumper sticker, you're motivation to hit the streets and suffer the known consequences (not counting the Padilla factor,) is nil.
eraldo wrote:
"Ha-ha. Dr. James Hansen isn't even a climatologist. He's an astronomer & physicist. I'm an amateur astronomer. Does that make me an amateur climatologist? Or does one need to be a professional astronomer to qualify as an amateur climatologist?"
Hansen is a planetary scientist trained in the study of atmospheres. Last time I checked, earth was a planet with an atmosphere.
The adjustments to the GISS data set were actually done by Steven McIntyre. Even with the change, it amounts to about a 0.02 degree error applicable only to the continental US. It did not change the global trend.
Jefferson's Guardian
auspiciousbunny
Siouxrose
Frank
good comments and to the heart of the matter.
I also think it is necessary to try to look at it, however possible, from the perspective of a younger person. I'm no longer physically so young and there are many different kinds of 'young people' naturally, so I can only see a little perhaps, but I see some.
If you are young, what do you see? Well, one thing that a lot of young people see is that the older generations have completely sold out, dropped the ball, left a mess, lost their own direction, become hypocritical, allowed greed to become paramount, embraced dishonesty and denial, let the earth down, let themselves down, and let their own children down. Not everyone, of course, but if we are speaking of a generational thing here, as in 'young people', that is a fair generalization of what the 'older generation' has done.
Many years ago, the brilliant Terrance McKenna spoke of the "dumbing down of America" wherein, after the 60s, the powers that be realized that a public that was too educated became dangerous to them and therefore began a process of de-emphasizing education, upping stupidity on television and the media, in school, everywhere it could (think: "Just Say No") The messages became increasingly dumber and dumber and eventually not being smart had became cool in school. Kids told me, in the 90s, smart was not cool and smart kids would get singled out and hassled, beat up even. And all of this is borne out if you have watched closely.
This is a big over simplification of everything, but that is so as not to drone on here ad-infinitum.
I was a high school teacher for a few years in the nineties and later a University professor. And I am somewhat radical and alternative and conversations with kids have always been quite frank, honest, and 'safe'. As well, I speak to kids of friends, etc.
I am NOT saying that kids are less intelligent today, of course not, but I am saying that their education has been manipulated for the worse and re-designed to create better citizens of 1984, in a sense. This has become a sound bite culture. The kids see this because they are not dumb and because it is obvious.
Further, the 60s left a strong message that if you mess with the powers that be they will kill you and young people know this. Kent State, the Kennedys, MLK, Malcom X, and even John Lennon in an indirect way. The kids know Bush is a liar, they see that basically all politicians are liars, AND they watch the old people, including their parents, 'going along' with it all, even pushing it along.
In other words, what the hell do any kids today have to see that would give them the confidence TO protest?
america places it's children in a box
then makes the box smaller and smaller
remember tipper and zapa
d.a.r.e..
children stepping to the back of the bus (sorry car)
then we wonder why they ain't pissed off
that they are not gonna make 30..
blowback for all the nice training
i guess..
ken
Erado:
I have. I use this dataset quite extensively in my own research. The temperature adjustment techniques have not changed. They are still the ones described in Hansen's 1999 paper on temperature trends (the one, by the way, that convinced me I could no longer be a global warming skeptic). If you read that paper and the one it references, you'll understand how the adjustments are made.
What did change in 2000 was the way the data were reported by NOAA. The error resulted from the failure of the NASA automatic data ingestion routine to understand the changes that NOAA has made. Now that these errors are corrected, the previously observed trends are still there (even McIntyre admits this) and, more importantly, the GLOBAL trends did not just one bit (remember, this whole controversy is only about US records, and the US accounts for less than 5% of the Earth's land surface).
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "offer up our children." As far as I know, no children will be sacrificed :). Seriously, though, if the warming is real (and we won;t know for absolute certain until it's too late to do anything about it) then our children may have to live a bit differently than we do, in a world with a degraded ability to supply ecosystems goods and services. My own research has left me very concerned about what warming could mean for the emergence of infectious diseases, which is happening at an accelerating pace. There is evidence that agricultural productivity may also decline, and that's been estimated to perhaps have as much as ten times the impact that disease increase might have on human health and welfare. Add to this the increases in population that are likely to occur over the next 50-100 years (possibly as many as 3 billion new people, bringing the global population to around 10 billion) and the pieces are in place for a very unpleasant future. I appreciate your skepticism, as I said, I used to be one myself. However, I believe that the potential threat is well-supported enough that it would be irresponsible of us not to take it seriously. The deniers might be right, but the majority of the evidence right now points the other way. The prudent and (dare I say it?) conservative response is to take the threat seriously, just like the prudent response to heart disease is to modify one's lifestyle to reduce the risk of heart attack.
And with that, I need to get back to this paper I'm supposed to be writing, so you'll get the last word, if you want it.