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Can Nancy Pelosi single-handedly take impeachment off the table?
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is proving to be the surprise O. Henry ending to last November's elections. The American voters gave Democrats clear control of Congress, rebuked President George W. Bush, and voiced an unequivocal public craving to trade in customary narrow-minded politics for something more inspiring. Yet motivated by partisan concerns over the 2008 elections, the new speaker is following President Bush around like a sheep while he solidifies an imperial presidency and diminishes the Congress into irrelevancy. Just look at the latest ACLU advertisement targeting Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The only thing Pelosi has retained for the Congress is small-minded earmarks to attract political contributions.
If Pelosi persists in her imperious, mean-spirited, and myopic thinking in disregard of her oath to support and defend the Constitution, members of the House should replace her with Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md.
According to public opinion polling, the percentage of voters supporting the impeachments of both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are now approximately 45 and 54 percent, respectively. Most Americans instinctively feel the president is an untrustworthy steward of the Constitution's checks and balances because, among other things, he flouts laws, prohibits White House aides from testifying before Congress, consistently defends an attorney general who is an inveterate liar, and detains citizens and noncitizens indefinitely as enemy combatants on his say-so alone. The prevailing barometer of acute public dissatisfaction with the White House surpasses the corresponding disaffection with President Richard M. Nixon when the Senate Watergate hearings began in May 1973. And Mr. Nixon had recently trounced Sen. George McGovern in the 1972 elections, winning 49 states.
The prospect of an impeachment inquiry by the House judiciary committee would concentrate the minds of the president and vice president wonderfully on obeying rather than sabotaging the Constitution. But Speaker Pelosi has at least figuratively joined hands with the White House in opposition. Emulating the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland, she has threatened the removal of Michigan Rep. John Conyers from his chairmanship of the House judiciary committee if an impeachment inquiry were even opened, according to reliable congressional chatter.
With more than four decades of service in the House, Chairman Conyers is a veteran of constitutional battles between the branches. The speaker, in contrast, is a novice on such matters. Unlike Conyers, she never experienced the Nixon impeachment travails that sobered and toughened the chairman against executive abuses and secrecy. If she had, she never would have emboldened President Bush and Vice President Cheney to intensify their assaults on congressional power by pronouncing that "impeachment is off the table."
Not surprisingly, after receiving that reassurance that there would be no consequences for their misconduct, the White House swiftly choked off the authority of Congress to expose executive lawlessness or maladministration by instructing current or former White House officials, including Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, and Joshua Bolton, to refuse to appear for testimony. And despite the recent enactment of the Protect America Act of 2007-which amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 for the ninth time since 9/11 to suit the administration's fancy-President Bush continues to claim constitutional authority to ignore the law at will and in secret.
It would be one thing if the speaker had been able to articulate statesmanlike reasons to balk at impeaching the president or vice president for their multiple constitutional sins. Impeachment is, to be sure, fraught with prudential considerations. A president who confesses constitutional error or wrongdoing and pledges to turn a new leaf may be forgiven. The confession would derail a legal precedent that would lie around like a loaded weapon for successors in the White House to justify constitutional misbehavior.
Speaker Pelosi's argument against impeachment is not high-minded, however. It is the fortunes of the Democratic Party, not the fate of the Constitution and the strength of democracy, that animate her decision. She opines that Democrats would risk losing control of Congress and the occupancy of the White House in 2008 if impeachment efforts moved forward. Many Democrats dispute that opinion. They maintain that citizens voted for authentic change last November and will revolt if Democrats ape President Bush and maneuver for partisan advantage while the Constitution burns. If an impeachment inquiry is blocked by Pelosi, and the White House is left undisturbed in its constitutional usurpations and celebration of perpetual war, voters may turn against Democrats for their political spinelessness.
But even if the speaker's political and strategic impeachment worries were valid, the Constitution is beyond party. It has remained generally unscathed for more than two centuries only because our leaders have subordinated their parochial concerns when looking into a constitutional abyss. The speaker should not be permitted to frustrate the will of 434 co-equal members who collectively represent the entire nation and who are inspired by loftier motives when the Constitution and the relevance of Congress lie in the balance. Just as President Bush should not be a king, Speaker Pelosi should not be our queen. If she possessed a crumb of decency or respect for democracy, she would permit a "free" vote in the House to decide on an impeachment inquiry without any obligation to support her lead. It is certainly customary in parliamentary systems like Great Britain or Canada for party leaders to permit free votes on matters of conscience, like the death penalty or abortion. Deciding on whether to enforce the Constitution through impeachment is just as much a matter of moral scruple.
Speaker Pelosi is no constitutional expert. Neither is she an impeachment expert. She is no expert in discerning how President Bush and Vice President Cheney are slashing away at the sinews of Congress. Why should her voice be the final word on impeachment when it runs against the grain of the American people and the House of Representatives? Checks and balances and protections against government abuses are too important to be left to an imperious amateur with a Bush-like mental worldview. If House Democrats have any constitutional honor and dedication to the nation, they will force Speaker Pelosi out if she neglects to turn a new leaf with alacrity.
Bruce Fein is a constitutional lawyer at Bruce Fein & Associates and chairman of the American Freedom Agenda. He is author of the forthcoming book Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle Over the Constitution and Democracy.
© 2007 Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC



57 Comments so far
Show AllHow does Pelosi get removed? Who do we have to pressure? Does California law have the ability to recall House members? What do we do now?
Could it be....maybe it's......no it can't be...........AIPAC?
Support CIndy Sheehan
There are no risks for the the Democrats. The damage has already been done. There is only a need to take back the power that Bush has stolen and is using to ruin this country. It sounds like the Democrats want to continue with the concept of unitary executive. America is putting on her Iron Heels. They match well with the Brown Shirts.
Hoa binh
Nancy Pelosi has betrayed the public trust for political gain. She is also contributing to the destruction of the foundation of our country, the Constitution. Her mind must have been elsewhere when she was taking her solemn oath of office. Let's all contribute to Cindy Sheehan's campaign and send a message of our own: END THIS FARCE! Voters made it clear we want a change in direction, not just a name change. But that's what we got. And K street has a new set of friends now. And Congress has managed to bring on itself in less than 6 months approval ratings even lower than Bush has. And they aren't getting the message. Well, maybe they will in 2008. I say let's fill Congress with Independents, Greens, Libertarians, whatever, and vote for anything except a Democrat or a Republican. I would love to see everyone in this country so pissed off they refuse to vote for a Democrat or Republican. Break this one-party-with-two-faces choke hold on us!
By the way, at the rate inflation is heating up, Nancy's piddly ass wage increase will be left in the dust and she KNOWS it. But that's OK, she's filthy rich so she won't be feeling any pain - unless the voters inflict it on her.
Pelosi is proving to be as stupid and hardheaded as Bush. She needs to be removed along with Harry Reid who is so spineless he won't allow a Censure vote to come up in the senate-Russ Feingold tried it and got shot down.I think Pelosi and Reid are are in bed with the repukes.Sad day for all of we democrats who voted to give them the majority and they give us the finger by electing Nancy as speaker. She like Reid is in way over her head
Send Pelosi and the other DINO-SORES back into the La Brea Tar Pits, save the feathers for a comforter.
I can see her now, floating on her back, relaxing with a magnum, from one of her vineyards, "Isn't this nice, a combination mud bath/hot tub, so close to the Pacific".
Hey Nancy, Harry
Do you or your handlers read these blogs? If so do you get it? You have lied to your base, plain and simple. I for one would like to know why. Is the promise of power, once inside the big political machine, really so seductive as to give the true believers the boot, or was this the plan all along?
It's probably the age old, if we tell them, they wouldn't understand. If so, I hope you have an early retirement plan.
What gives?
kathyodat and Judith...Amen and Amen!
I have done a lot of reflecting since I retired. Most every decision I made in my life that was based on fear was the WRONG decision.
I see that same fear operating in those who post here and plead with us to stay with the Dems:If we're really patient and don't rock the boat and give them the benefit of the doubt and understand their job is tough, then soon, maybe not now, but soon the Dems will actually represent us. And besides, Nader and Sheehan are just wreckers and saboteurs who make it easier for the big, bad Republicans to win and that would be awful, awful, awful.
Enough! I will vote only for positive, progressive change. I'm tired of voting out of fear and playing defense all the time.
Nancy Pelosi: Your re-election is OFF THE TABLE.
Cindy Sheehan for Congress.
Note to Vangelaras: Good point!
Maybe the Greens and Libertarians could cut a deal in '08 where each would run candidates in districts where they had the registration edge and endorse the other in districts where they didn't. It would be to the advantage of both those parties, and American Democracy, if the Dem-Repub duopoly was busted. I'm a Green but I could vote Libertarian for Congress or California Assembly or Senate if that was a good 'Tactical" vote.
Kucinich had rhe guts to put forth Hr333 but only 15(?) others were willing to sign on. Has it occured to anyone that D.K. actually IS what a Democrat is supposed to be--
For the people? A TRUE Progressive Democrat or Independent who DOESN'T support him is a hypocrite. PERIOD!
And, by the way, going Green at this point in history ain't gonna help a thing except maybe make you feel a little better for a little while. The Greens are GREAT but not mainstream enough to effect change. D.K. COULD!!!
I have news for the Democratic Party, If Bush and Cheney have NOT been impeached by the election, I will not be voting for any Democrat. If they let the Bush crimes stand, they are no different than the Repugs. What difference does it make what party they are from? Time to help a third party ascend.
I agree . . . Only a substanial showing for a third party will make the changes we need. It will not have to win completely just have a good showing to have an effect. Then in a politicians mind 2012 will be the concern. After all what is it that they all want. Re-Election!!!
Vote Third Party . . . Anyone that you want . . . Just make it count.
Once again an article on Impeachment with no mention of HR 333(Impeach Cheney)and the sponsor of it...Dennis Kucinich.
I believe 17 members of Congress have signed on to it now.
Wear Orange on Fridays to say IMPEACH!
Kucinich is a miracle, these days. I wonder if Pelosi has been threatened. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not saying that to make excuses for her. I am completely infuriated that she pre-emptively took impeachment off the table from the minute we voted the Democrats into Congress. I just wonder if Congresspeople in general, irrespective of party affiliation, are either a) profiting from the war and the overall Bush regime, including the latest federal reserve bailout, and therefore have no reason/motive to impeach, or b) have been threatened to keep their mouths shut and go along with the program. I say Kucinich is a miracle because he doesn't seem to fall into either category. Maybe there is really no mystery here why Congress won't act against Bush and Cheney. Is it just me, or are we at a particularly scary moment in the post 9/11 nightmare, with the realization sinking in that Congress really no longer does represent the people? I mean, I think we all thought in November that it was some great victory that the Democrats won both houses AND Rummy resigned. The Dems now theoretically had the power to do oversight, block legislation that invades privacy and sanctions illegal torture and imprisonment,investigate, impeach, etc etc. What did they do? Give Alberto G. more power, after his buffoon-like performances before the Senate judiciary committee, where Repubs and Dems alike were supposedly calling for his resignation. Are they all being threatened? Are they all war profiteers? Are the Dems really just concerned to not "rock the boat" so they can seize absolute power in 2008? What is up????
If G(awd)W(hatta)B(astard) isn't impeached there will be no redemption for the Democratic party, or for the US citizenry for that matter. To fail to insist that GWB extricate the US from the morass of Iraq before he leaves office will leave the Dems in the no-win position of being to blame for any violence and bloodshed that might happen upon our eventual withdrawal, and being to blame for not getting us out sooner. Pelosi's failure to decisively act to put an end either to the war (while GWB is still in office) or to GWB's tenure (or both) has left her party holding the bag. She and the other Dems in office who think they can parlay this into votes in 2008 are sorely mistaken.
Can we impeach Pelosy for flouting the constitution?
democrats = Bush enabler
http://www.speaker.gov/contact/
I am outraged! Email her every day. I do. I don't think it really does any good, but it makes me feel better. All I do is put in my information and then:
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST, then BUSH, and PROSECUTE!
I will not vote in '08 for anyone who supported Bush's invasion of Iraq whether or not they apologize for their stupidity and for failing to do their homework. If I, a regular citizen, knew it was wrong, illegal and also knew what the results would be (i.e., creating a bed for terrorists), then dammit, our "leaders" should have known. When we celebrating a supposed victory in '06, I feared this would be the result. I totally do not trust any of them except Dennis and will write his name in on any ballot for POTUS. Unless, someone is smart enough to include Dennis in a leadership role, should someone who did not approve the Iraq invasion, get the nomination. I want to vote for someone smarter, wiser than I am, and who also demonstrates honesty, common sense and integrity. I am no longer going to vote for someone and have to "hold my nose" while doing it (as with Kerry in '04). I will only vote for someone as described, or write in someone's name who lives up to my standards. I am outraged.
As a constituent of Nancy Pelosi's district I and dozens of people I know will be voting for Cindy Sheehan. Nancy in her Pacific Heights mansion will not even meet with the Code Pink fasters outside her house. She has ignored my calls and e-mails and continued to fund the U.S. military occupation of Iraq for four years. The founders of our Constitution discussed Impeachment as a measure of restricting the unconstitutional abuse of power by the Executive Branch. How dare Pelosi declare "Impeachment off the table"! After 30 years I left the Democrat Party for the Green Party. I wish the Progressive wing of the Democrat party would leave en masse to the Green Party. The Democrat Leadership are Corporate Whores to the Military Industrial Complex-WATCH IN SEPTEMBER: WHEN THESE SPINELESS PLUTOCRATS APPROVE ANOTHER MASSIVE INCREASE IN DEFENSE SPENDING AND YET ANOTHER $100 BILLION IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL!
How can we waste our time hoping they will change...have we forgotten the 2004 Democratic Convention when Anti-War shirts and pins were CONFISCATED?! After Kucinich endorsed Kerry, Kerry ignored him.
We need to get out and demonstrate in Pelosi's office, at her home, 24/7, demanding she let the House vote on whether to initiate impeachment proceedings. Enough of these gutless, spineless, lily-livered collaborationist Democrats. The time has come for We the People to take the gloves off.
The day after Pelosi's triumph, she has a very quiet little visit that lasts a few hours and of which she never speaks. Ever. To anyone. The men who visit show her what some of us would love to get our hands on--concrete proof that Wellstone and his family were deliberately assassinated. And a few others, some she had never heard of. Then they show her other photos--of her grandchildren, at their private school. With information about exactly when they can be found where, and when they are alone. And with this come the videos that haunt her nightmares--there HAVE been a few who resisted, and their loved ones were slowly tortured to death.
"Of course you can go to the media and tell them all about this little visit," the nasty men say with a laugh before they leave. And she thinks about it afterward--can she sacrifice that sweet little girl, see her tortured--in order to do her clear duty to the nation by blowing the whistle? She knows she will be laughed at, called paranoid, no doubt removed from office and perhaps put in an institution. She can guess that others have received visits like hers. If she spoke up, if these unknown others corroborated her story...but she knows the nasty men have good friends at the top of all the major media organizations.
Two days pass and she says nothing. A week passes...
Am I making all this up? Yes. It's just my theory on why Congress is so overwhelmingly on the side of the rich and opposed to the needs of the people, even when the stakes get as high as they are now, with a major war draining our already impoverished country in a dozen ways, another, extremely dangerous war being proposed, while global warming is rushing to engulf our planet and oil depletion lurks around the corner.
More like the queen of'arts! Like the Constitution she betrays, Madam Pelosi is just another Bush piece of parchment being memory-holed under Big Brother.
disgusteddan & Mendo Chuck:
You just don't get it do you? All or nothing ain't gonna help at this point in time. Wasting--YES WASTING!--your vote on a third party won't accomplish a damn thing at this point in time. If you want to rebel then vote Kucinich. In case you haven't noticed (Or read) other posters on this site speaking of D.K. as the ONLY Real/True Democrat--give him an honest look. Then if you still think because he's a Dem that is also evil, then vote third party and waste your vote. You think anyone will give a shit or even notice you went to third party in protest? Please. You ARE dreaming. "Waste" your vote, if you must on someone who can turn things around. Democrat label be damned!!! Kucinich is right in front of your eyes! Why can't you people see him? And I thought the media was blind to him. At least THEY have a reason--TRUE Progressives don't!!!
These silly government procedures, it is just a show to make the public feel like they live in a democracy, like change is possible. Impeachment is not real. This is an oligarchy controlled by the wealthiest elites. Any attempt at an alternative party to truly represent the people would be squashed.
Pelosi is the main obstacle to getting impeachment proceedings underway, but she is far from being the only one. The dems are absolutely paralyzed in fear of the republicans it seems. You will search far and wide in the District of Columbia for someone in the big money parties with the courage to say what is really going on. The government has divorced itself from the constitution and the interests of the people, and you know what that means, or at least I hope you do.
Nancy Pelosi is just another Bush boot licker and AIPAC stooge. I think she has a crush on the Chimp. She said he was a "lovely man" (haha), and he had a lovely, patriotic family.
I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich!
Pelosi answers to AIPAC.It's time to realize the the Dems and the Repubs all work for the same boss.Wake up and stop expecting the Dems to save us.They will not!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8545414779301935419
theytoldyouwhat
You are generalizing as many do on this site. Kucinich IS A DEM (If you need to label by party instead of issue stances and individual integrity)and above reproach. Wake up and take a look: http://www.kucinich.us
Of course it is AIPAC. Don't you know that the Israelis own the DNC? To change things we have to remove the control of the DNC and our party from both the Israelis and the rich. Quite an undertaking, don't you think? Let's hear from more readers on this issue.
I remember watching Pelosi after one of the elections when she was the democrat being interviewed (not sure if this was 2000 or 2004), and she was SO pro-war, I thought she was just trying to prove she was more of a man then the macho leadership prototype that fuels endless war (as if that signifies leadership). I could not stand watching her. It was obvious she was a sell-out... and this was before 2006 and the glimmer of hope on the political horizon that more democrats might make for meaningful change. It's a dark time, but eventually the light emerges. We must never forget what we witnessed, although the labor pains to re-birth democracy in this nation will last a decade or more. THAT will be unforgetable.
Kucinich is my pick also, but what good will it do any of us to vote for a good candidate unless we can stop the use of those GD Repug voting machines that stole the last election?
If there is no way of checking the vote, we may as well concede right now. Of course they will say everything has been FIXED, and that is probably exactly what will be the case. I doubt Cindy Sheehan can get elected but she deserves all the votes she can muster. That tale of mwildfire`s about the day after Pelosi took office was very thought-provoking.
Sure seemed like something happened to her real quickly.
Come election day 2008, if the Democrats have failed to impeach/remove the US president and vice-president, and failed to remove all Americans from Iraq, then progressives are voting third party candidates.
Tip O'Neal said it years ago; "all politics are local". What Ms. Pelosi and the people of the United States need, is for grass roots movement among registered Democrats in her district to rise up and begin the work to replace her as the nominee of the Democratic Party for her seat in Congress. Faced with LOSING HER JOB she will either submit to the will of the people or accept the inevitable. In any regard her seat is up for reelection in just 15 months and we can do something about it.
pleasethink asks are the dems all war profiteers: read Peter Byrne's report on Dianne Feinstein at http://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/01.24.07/dianne-feinstein-0704.html and the follow up articles at http://www.peterbyrne.info .
Yes!
mwildfire, interesting, and plausible, but I think it's simpler; it's just old fashioned greed, money that is, greed fueling the rise to power and the tactics needed to sustain it. Whoever feeds your position of power is who you answer to, and it ain't the people. The people are pawns, made to think they are important, but they are used, fed lies consistently, being honest for the most part, but gullible.
Should we feel betrayed by Pelosi and her kind, of course, but our anger is mute, it falls on deaf ears. Some of us sit here enraged and these posts enrage us further, "what can we all do?" Write to Congress? good luck. Vote in the next election?, it's rigged and Pelosi and her kind render it useless anyway. March in the streets? you're being watched, be prepared.
To me Pelosi seems a tragic figure, with her plastic enhanced smile, and her calm demeanor betraying her incompetence. Maybe mwildfire is correct, maybe she and her kind have been muzzled? Maybe it's not just the AIPAC money? Whatever it is, we as a people, are in a sorry state of affairs.
Of course the speaker can keep it off the table. The Speaker of the House has a great deal of authority. She had control over which bills reach the floor for votes. And she can threaten committee chairs that they will lose that position. And the money behind her is a threat to Democrats who might get out of line. She can always pour the money of her pro-war, pro-corporate backers into a primary opponent of anyone who gets too far out of line.
You must remember the flip side of this. When something like the bill giving Bush expanded spying powers passes the House, you must remember the power the speaker has. Those awful bills that make the Dem apologists write article after article about how the Dems 'caved' are all passed with the approval of the Speaker. When you see a bad bill like that even up for a vote, remember the Speaker has a great deal of control over the agenda, and could have blocked the bill from even coming to the floor.
Not only does she use her power as speaker to block key actions like an impeachment. But she also uses it to back key Bush policies like our government spying on American citizens.
But don't focus on Pelosi. And don't act like replacing her will make any difference. Whomever would replace her would have to follow exactly the same policies because the power and the money behind the Democratic party want it that way. Pelosi was a relatively progressive congresswoman from CA before she sold her soul to get this job. And whomever replaces her will either be souless to begin with or will also have to sell their soul to get the job.
The problem is the Democratic Party. Its undemocratic internally, and the money and power that support the leadership are fully in favor of Bush's policies. Unless and until we get together to build another party that can win seats in Congress, this ain't changing.
Has it occurred to anyone that Pelosi, Reid, and a few others might just be neocons in donkey clothing, and that they were chosen for their positions precisely because they could act and sound like Democrats well enough to get (and keep getting) elected? Who really IS Rahm Emanuel, and what IS the real purpose of the Democratic Leadership Council?
Doesn't take much effort on their part, considering how the corporate-controlled media controls the flow of information, and how stupid and brainwashed the people of this country are. Television is the greatest aid ever invented for those who want to practice mind-control on the masses. (Ever try to talk to a kid while s/he was watching a commercial?) It's not just about content, or lack-thereof; it's the way the medium changes the frequency of the brain's waves to make the (passive) viewer receptive to the messages conveyed, subtly or otherwise.)
And who owns the airwaves, really? Ain't anyone I know.
Oh, and about voting third- (really second-) party. Bless all of you for wanting to do the right thing and vote for truth. I say, vote for whomever you want (personally, I'll be voting for Bill Moyers), but don't harbor any illusions that your vote will matter one way or another, except on an etheric level.
Why not? Because WE DON'T LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY ANY MORE. (As if we ever did.) Clinton or Giuliani? Obama or Romney? Mickey Mouse or Archie Bunker? The vast, vast majority will vote for whoever they're given, and then go back to what's REALLY important to them- trying to get by on the ever-diminishing pay they take home from their shitty and meaningless jobs. And spending their free time trying to forget (or pretend they aren't aware of) how empty their lives are. So it's weekends down the shore and "what's the latest on that crazy Britney" and "How 'bout them Yankees?" and "I hope I can afford that new plasma TV I've been wanting".
And, really, do you think that who we elect will have any bearing at all on how we'll be living five or ten years from now? Do you really think the sheeple of this nation are going to wake up to what REALLY has been going on, between now and January, and rise up en masse? Global warming and peak oil are the only real issues anyway, and NOBODY- not Dennis, not Sanders- is doing 1% of enough.
As Sting sang twenty-five years ago, "There is no political solution, To our troubled evolution. Have no faith in constitution. Need a bloody (in the British vernacular) revolution.
We are spirits in the material world...."
Einstein said that a problem cannot be solved on the level on which it was created. It seems to me that the solutions to our vast and seemingly complex problems cannot and will not be solved using the same political systems that created them.
"Who really IS Rahm Emanuel, and what IS the real purpose of the Democratic Leadership Council?"
The original name of the Democratic Leadership Council -- Democrats for Nixon. I discovered this reading Richard Reeves' "Richard Nixon: Alone in the White House".
Today I received a response to an email to my representative about my insistence on impeachment, and it was basically the Pelosi line, that he would vigorously support impeachment IF A COMMITTEE WERE TO DISCOVER A HIGH CRIME OR MISDEMEANOR COMMITTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. I felt I was falling down the rabbit hole.
Pelosicrats are absolutely mendacious, and we have to replace them, if we can, at the local level; this may not work, but is worth pursuing, so long as it isn't the only avenue we pursue.
Being a Liberal and voting for a third party is effectively a vote for the Republicans and their Neoconservative masters.
However, the Democrats have utterly failed to even slow down the Neoconservative train that's wrecking us a country and people. So why not vote for a third party and slap some sense into the Democrats? Sure, it's risking another term of Neoconservative power _ but we don't have much to lose anymore. The Democrats have not provided a viable alternative, like they're paid to do. Screw 'em.
It is even more distressing and disgusting that Pelosi fail so blantantly to fulfil her elected duty because she is the first woman Speaker of the House.
The future looks bleak for the people of America unless voters strike back vigorously when betrayed.
Siouxrose's perspective, "although the labor pains to re-birth democracy in this nation will last a decade or more. THAT will be unforgetable," and other points here are helpful to me in figuring out what position to take on this whole mess. The conversation here has solidified my view that the power structure in this country indeed exists in two layers: the surface, which is the "official" government, which projects the illusion of the democratic process (elections, debates, oversight, voting, representation, etc.) and then the economic machine which is really driving the shape of reality (incidentally, I checked the "top donors" of most of the Democratic candidates on opensecrets.org last night, a great website, and that reveals once and for all how all the top Dem contenders are the same, except DK--it's worth a look).
Given this, I am starting to see time spent wringing hands about why Pelosi doesn't impeach or how unbelievably evil Bush et al as a waste of time (not that they shouldn't be held accountable). The time should be spent, rather, "birthing real democracy," which means getting past the theatrics of the first, false layer of the government, and figuring out ways to deal with the money machine that drives it. I can't resist invoking Nietzsche here, who, in the best book I have ever read (On the Genealogy of Morals) pointed out the difference between affirmative forces, which create, and forces of resentment, which are purely negative, and which always need to create an "evil outside" to hate and complain about in order to sustain themselves. Maybe what we need is a revolution, a shift from a politics of resentment ("Bush is bad") to one that uses affirmative force to create something new (a renewed democracy, signs of which are perhaps becoming evident)...forget Pelosi (electing Cindy would be a good affirmative move), and just make the democracy we want, and expect it to be a long fight.
To me, even a mention of the Democratic refusal to deal with the criminal actions of GW Bush is enraging.
I'm sick of reading about more and more and more corruption by the Republicans, arrogant Bush contempt of the law and the unconstitutional appearance of "the unitary executive" in the person of this idiot, the Republicans and Democrats both ignoring the American people, our country, our way of life, and our well-being.
It's really time for the American people to up the ante, since Congress refuses to do what they were elected to do. I'm afraid that means stronger actions than just phoning, writing letters and voting. Phone calls and letters are ignored and voting is rigged.
Americans need to think outside the box.
Oh come on now, Pelosi is a still a Democrat - in the Bill Clinton sense of the word.
Her 'impeachment is off the table' message wasn't for the consumption of Dem/Prog audience, instead it was a clear triangulating statement which only Repubs/Ncons could interpret - 'We've stolen your clothes again, don't be pissed...'
Of course, Repubs/Ncons were pissed - after trying so many years to put miles of 'blue' water between themselves and the Clinton 'centrists', only to find the Democratic garbage scow still determinedly tied to stern of Battleship Bush.
What's a Repub party to do except sail even deeper into fascist seas, to see how far they can stretch Pelosi's tactics before she and her party balks.
All American women should be outraged by Pelosi's disregard for her office and lack of integrity. As the first female speaker, all American women should hold her to a higher standard. They obviously don't because she has no standards.
Women have fought a long battle for the opportunities they have in this country today and when a woman like Pelosi shows contempt for the very rights that other women have fought to bring her, then it should bring some serious consequences.
Women WHY aren't you protesting?
Nancy Pelosi is the single richest member of Congress. Not so hard to do the math, is it?
Obviously, Pelosi is not doing the job, but Steny Hoyer is clearly worse. The problem is the DLC.
Reply for BROWN,
I forgot about Kucinich.I think Dennis is great!But isn't it sad that's the only person you can come up within the entire party. Is one man going to save all of us and make the other Dems have some true courage? The majority of both parties have been bought.Maybe that's what I should have said to begin with.The DEMS are just as responsible for the mess that country is in as the REPUBS.It's a simple fact.Do these people really represent the American people.What do their actions say? NOT a generalization,but fact.
I disagree, I don't think Madam Speaker is "motivated by partisan concerns over the 2008 elections".
I think as she takes her orders from the same corporate masters as the Republicans. In my opinion this makes Nancy and Harry worse than Bush. Dirty back-stabbing 2 faced liars comes to mind.
God, I hope she reads this post.
I ♥ RichM-- in a red-blooded, manly way, of course.
"the democratic party is owned by AIPAC"....Uhm, the entire Government is owned by AIPAC would be more correct...