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Backlash Over Book on Policy for Israel
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" is not even in bookstores, but already anxieties have surfaced about the backlash it is stirring, with several institutions backing away from holding events with the authors.
John J. Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago, and Stephen M. Walt, a professor at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, were not totally surprised by the reaction to their work. An article last spring in the London Review of Books outlining their argument - that a powerful pro-Israel lobby has a pernicious influence on American policy - set off a firestorm as charges of anti-Semitism, shoddy scholarship and censorship ricocheted among prominent academics, writers, policymakers and advocates. In the book, published by Farrar, Straus & Giroux and embargoed until Sept. 4, they elaborate on and update their case.
"Now that the cold war is over, Israel has become a strategic liability for the United States," they write. "Yet no aspiring politician is going to say so in public or even raise the possibility" because the pro-Israel lobby is so powerful. They credit the lobby with shutting down talks with Syria and with moderates in Iran, preventing the United States from condemning Israel's 2006 war in Lebanon and with not pushing the Israelis hard enough to come to an agreement with the Palestinians. They also discuss Christian Zionists and the issue of dual loyalty.
Opponents are prepared. Also being released on Sept. 4 is "The Deadliest Lies: The Israel Lobby and the Myth of Jewish Control" (Palgrave Macmillan) by Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. The notion that pro-Israel groups "have anything like a uniform agenda, and that U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East is the result of their influence, is simply wrong," George P. Shultz, a former secretary of state, says in the foreword. "This is a conspiracy theory pure and simple, and scholars at great universities should be ashamed to promulgate it."
The subject will certainly prompt furious debate, though not at the Center for the Humanities at the Graduate Center at the City University of New York, the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, a Jewish cultural center in Washington and three organizations in Chicago. They have all turned down or canceled events with the authors, mentioning unease with the controversy or the format.
The authors were particularly disturbed by the Chicago council's decision, since plans for that event were complete and both authors have frequently spoken there before. The two sent a four-page letter to 94 members of the council's board detailing what happened. "On July 24, Council President Marshall Bouton phoned one of us (Mearsheimer) and informed him that he was canceling the event," and that his decision "was based on the need 'to protect the institution.' He said that he had a serious 'political problem,' because there were individuals who would be angry if he gave us a venue to speak, and that this would have serious negative consequences for the council. 'This one is so hot,' Marshall maintained."
Mr. Mearsheimer later said of Mr. Bouton, "I had the sense that this phone call pained him deeply."
Mr. Bouton was out of town, but Rachel Bronson, vice president for programs and studies at the council, said, "Whenever we have topics that are particularly controversial or sensitive, we try to make sure someone from another point of view is there." In this case, she said, there was not sufficient time to set up that sort of panel before the council calendar went out. There are no plans to have the authors speak at a later date, however.
"One of the points we make in the book is that this is a subject that's very hard to talk about," Mr. Walt said in an interview from his office in Cambridge. "Organizations, no matter how strong their commitment to free speech, don't want to schedule something that's likely to cause controversy."
After the cancellation Roberta Rubin, owner of the Book Stall, a store in Winnetka, Ill., offered to help find a site for the authors. She said she tried a Jewish community center and two large downtown clubs but they all told her "they can't afford to bring in somebody 'too controversial.' " She added that even she was concerned about inviting authors who might offend customers.
Some of the planned sites, like the Sixth & I Historic Synagogue, a cultural center in Washington, would have been host of an event if Mr. Mearsheimer and Mr. Walt appeared with opponents, said Esther Foer, the executive director.
Mr. Walt said, "Part of the game is to portray us as so extreme that we have to be balanced by someone from the 'other side.' " Besides, he added, when you're promoting a book, you want to present your ideas without appearing with someone who is trying to discredit you.
As for City University, Aoibheann Sweeney, director of the Center for the Humanities, said, "I looked at the introduction, and I didn't feel that the book was saying things differently enough" from the original article. Ms. Sweeney, who said she had consulted with others at City University, acknowledged that they had begun planning for an event in September moderated by J. J. Goldberg, the editor of The Forward, a leading American Jewish weekly, but once he chose not to participate, she decided to pass. Mr. Goldberg, who was traveling in Israel, said in a telephone interview that "there should be more of an open debate." But appearing alone with the authors would have given the impression that The Forward was presenting the event and thereby endorsing the book, he said, and he did not want to do that. A discussion with other speakers of differing views would have been different, he added.
"I don't think the book is very good," said Mr. Goldberg, who said he read a copy of the manuscript about six weeks ago. "They haven't really done original research. They haven't talked to the people who are being lobbied or those doing the lobbying."
Overall Mr. Mearsheimer said he thinks the response to their views will be "less ferocious than last time, because it's becoming increasingly difficult to make the argument in a convincing way that anyone who criticizes the lobby or Israel is an anti-Semite or a self-hating Jew." Both Mr. Mearsheimer and Mr. Walt pointed to the growing dissatisfaction with the war in Iraq, criticism of Israel's war in Lebanon and the publication of former President Jimmy Carter's book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" as making it somewhat easier to criticize Israel openly.
"This isn't a cabal; this isn't anything secretive," Mr. Walt said.
American Jews who lobby on Israel's behalf are not all that different from the National Rifle Association, the anti-tax movement, AARP or the American Petroleum Institute, he said, "They just happen to be really good at it."
"It's the way American politics work," he continued. "Sometimes powerful interest groups get what they want, and it's not good for the country as a whole. I would say that about the farm lobby and about the Cuba lobby."
To the authors, dual loyalty is as American as Presidents' Day sales and "Law & Order" reruns. As Mr. Mearsheimer explained: "People are allowed to have multiple loyalties. They have religious loyalties, loyalty to family, to an organization and you can have loyalty to other countries. Someone who is Irish can have a loyalty to Ireland."
"The problem," he said "is when you raise the subject of dual loyalty, many people tend to think of it in the context of the old anti-Semitic canard and making the argument that Jews are disloyal to the U.S."
In print and in interviews both authors have stressed that they hold no animus towards Israel or Jews. "We think Israeli policy is fundamentally flawed," Mr. Mearsheimer said, "just as we think American policy is fundamentally flawed."
Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company



76 Comments so far
Show AllYour point about the British in India is well taken.
I forgot about the Israeli Army units patrolling the streets of Europe, and the many Israeli fortresses scattered about the continent.
This is blatant censorship. One more piece of evidence of the fascist police state called USA. What has happened to the 1st amendment? haha, the entire COnstitution has become JUST a piece of paper; it's history just like the American Revolution and the democracy that used to be the political system.
I suppose Walt and Mearsheimer have tenure-- and they're going to need it.
If they keep this up, and especially if they find persons and institutions with the courage and integrity to give them a forum, they'll surely be set upon by the Second Coming of Simon Wiesenthal: Alan Dershowitz.
While I don't subscribe to the Realist theory of international relations, which structures Walt and Mearsheimer's argument,I certainly wish them luck with this book. It's high time a debate about the REAL axis of evil in the world -- Washington and Israel -- began. I certainly took note of these guys' courage when they publisht their original article. I hope they've cleaned up the few problems with that piece, as a nice clean manuscript this time will go a long way to achieve its purpose. Good luck, fellas!
Dear Walt and Mersheimer,
Thanks for your courage and your patriotism! If only our politicans were as patriotic as you in putting America's interests first!
DCBeltway
The censorship of anything said against Israel, the portrayal of anything said against Israel (even though what is said is in fact truth) as anti-semitism, and the fear and uproar it creates in the US (mind you, in Israel there are organisations, and media that are anti-zionism) reinforces the fact that the pro-Israel lobby is very powerful. It is well known about what has happened to Finklestein, because of his opposition to genocidal activities of Israel against the Palestinians.
This underlines the fact that in the US there is no freedom of speech. One is forced to follow the OFFICIAL POSITION. There is no room for a dialogue on CERTAIN (UN)HOLY SUBJECTS. If someone says anything on those subjects, it becomes a SACRILEGIOUS ACT, and that person is portrayed as somebody who has committed an UNPARDONABLE SIN, and is shunned off from(or marginalised in) the society. That is why Israel continues to butcher innocent people with the US weapons.
If the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT, is curtailed, then how is the US a democracy?????
Incredible that we put up with this state of affairs. The U.S. gives some $3 billion per year directly to Israel. That's money out of our pockets. The people stiffling debate are successfully advancing the claim that we do not have the right to discuss how our money is spent.
I think the only antidote to this problem is to cut back funding for Israel. We should notify our Representatives that we believe the possibility of a downward adjustment to foreign aid should go back on the table until the dog wags the tail again, not the other way around as it is currently.
Anyone want to place bets how long it will take for the usual apologists to show up? I'm given it an hour.
OK! Call me anti-semitic.
Say Jew out loud and you get smeared.
Iraq is Jewish Disaster.
Why? Read these names-
Kristol
Rumsfeld
Wolfowitz
Libby
Feith
Bush Foreign Policy team is mostly Jews.
PNAC charter members were mostly jews.
Any Baptists? Ho Hum.
Check the names of owners of Investment Houses on Wall Street.
I say protect Israel.
I say protect all lives.
The question arises of the undue influence of the Israel lobbies over U.S. policy. I don't believe that Israel is making the U.S. do anything that it wouldn't do without their influence. I would question the amount of aid that goes to Israel and how much of it comes back to fund U.S. elections. I doubt an economically independent state such as Venezuela could pipeline funds to the U.S. congress and create a block of support as dependent as the Democrats are to Israel. This serves the conservative agenda for empire.
The behavior of Israel is typical of nationalism. The murderous establishment and preservation of states is something both the U.S. and Israel are engaged in. Both states are cut from the same cloth. Israel is an enthusiastic puppet state of the type the U.S. wishes would head all of its empire. The neo-con dream, I believe, was for duplication of the Israeli miracle in Iraq with a more favorable result( rose strewn path and all).
The U.S. capitalist propaganda media will make heroes and saints out of its puppets as it suits their needs. I don't believe that the Israelis are poisoning the minds of Americans but rather are assisting the American elite in their poisoning of their own American citizen's minds in the service of empire. The position of Israel is more akin to a service for a fee arraignment.
The selling of the war in Iraq was either a great failure or a great success of the capitalist American media depending on what their intention was. I can't believe the unity and purity of their message was an accident.
RE: THE KIND OF SUBSTANTIVE CONTRIBUTION WE CAN DEPEND ON FROM THIS POSTER
dcbeltway August 16th, 2007 4:05 pm
"Anyone want to place bets how long it will take for the usual apologists to show up?"
Any apologists want to represent this as a substantive comment - vs. sucking up to the likeminded and trying to debunk different left wing views in advance?
Is the Israeli Lobby too powerful? Look at the architects of the Iraq war: Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith (head of policy in the DOD in the run-up to war, previously a lobbyist for the Likkud party, had an office in Israel, Richard Perle head of the Defense Policy Board(according to Seymour Hersh's article in the New Yorker, he talked the Israelis out of the Oslo Peace Accords), Dov Zakheim,( a rabbi with dual Israeli-US citizenship Comptroller at Pentagon,) Kenneth Adleman, Eliot Cohen etc. etc. In large part the Iraq War was the use of American lives and American treasure in the service of Israel.
Clarence Swinney:
That sounds like a Jewish name to me. Yeah, you and Rumsfeld, dunderhead.
RE: PLEASE CLARIFY
kathy elizabeth August 16th, 2007 5:19 pm
"Is the Israeli Lobby too powerful?...Richard Perle...according to Seymour Hersh's article in the New Yorker...talked the Israelis out of the Oslo Peace Accords"
So...a US government 'member' of the Israeli lobby...supported Israel...by "talk[ing] the Israelis out of the...Peace Accords"?
Remind me...whose bidding was 'Israeli-lobby-Perle' doing - and whose 'interest' was he loyal to - by talking Israel out of a peace accord?
Backlash or pre-emptive brainwashing?
Ariel Sharon speaking to Shimun Perez on KOL radio in Israel in October 2001.
"I want to tell you something very clear. Don't worry about American pressure on israel. We the Jewish people, control America and the Americans know it"
Several months after said interview on KOL Sharon became comatose. Very little if any reports on Sharon's health status since then.
Foxman et al. want to remind Hillary and all other candidates from all shades who is in "real control" of America.
Dancing with wolves is as close to the act of committing suicide.
I still remember when Wesley Clark came under attack last year when he said that NEW YORK (Jewish) MONEY was the prime driver for a US attack on Iran.
Everybody knows this is true but you cannot say it out loud in polite company.
Another example --people who say that Jews control much of the mass media are usually libeled as anti-semites by the ADl and similar organizations.
Yet again everybody knows this is true. In fact when writing or speaking to Jewish audiences prominent Jews have boasted of their community's huge influence on the mass media.
But let a gentile say this and he or she is immediately branded as a bigot and anti-semite.
The Israeli lobby is so stupid that they rush in to quickly validate the point that Walt and Mearsheimer have made. Yes, Virginia, the zionists in this country do control American foreign policy in the Middle East.
Wow I called it just a little over an hour!
This is probably the reason why I'm reposting this from another thread:
Israel supporters now using internet technology to advance Pro-Israel viewpoints in chatrooms:
http://tinyurl.com/2b9rlz
dcbeltway August 16th, 2007 6:35 pm
"Wow I called it just a little over an hour!
This is probably the reason why I'm reposting this from another thread:"
Wow you paranoid moron, you just can't accept that posters might think differently than you - it's got to be a conspiracy.
RE: THIS COMES TO THE HEART OF THE ISSUE
followthemoney August 16th, 2007 4:43 pm
"The question arises of the undue influence of the Israel lobbies over U.S. policy. I don't believe that Israel is making the U.S. do anything that it wouldn't do without their influence."
The Israeli lobby is obviously strong - but focusing exclusively on their influence upon U.S. support for Israel's brutal oppression of Palestinians fails to grasp the pattern of US support for oppressive regimes to extend its power.
The myth of the untouchables, or termites,very well and alive under these skies - sad enough
If the pro-Israel lobby is so strong and so correct, what are they afraid of? Does the truth hurt?
Incidentally, Israel has more UN weapons violations of ANY Middle Eastern company...sorry, 'country'. You'll find that
most of the largest multinational companies based in the US are Jewish run. It's a fact, guys...Hollywood, too is
Jewish owned and run...
I'm very much pro-shalom, by the way...too bad Israel and the Israel lobby are not.
Shalom,
-- jdolce
$50B IS BETTER USED AT HOME, THESE DAYS. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL WHO ARE SAYING AND BELIEVING THAT THEIR COUNTRY HAS GONE TOO FAR, AS HAS THE UNITED STATES.
Want to see how USA Jewish people regard themselves regarding the rest of us? Take a look at Sarah Silverman's humor.
I don't understand why dual citizens (and it's perfectly reasonable to be one, many people are) are allowed to hold political office, local, state or federal.
Such individuals MUST be unable to give 100% of their loyalty to the USA. I really don't understand why people don't care about this.
Are Mr and Mrs Average American actually unaware?
I know I keep harping on this point, but I make no apology. The only way to have US-centric policies is to have US-loyal politicians.
Slante!
T'02
... oh and did I hear anyone say THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS?!?!
T'02
"I don't understand why dual citizens (and it's perfectly reasonable to be one, many people are) are allowed to hold political office, local, state or federal.
Such individuals MUST be unable to give 100% of their loyalty to the USA."
Takamine2002, I agree. A whiff of reason would show anyone that it isn't humanly possible to hold two loyalties. To say it is, is Orwellian.
What's behind the Iraqi misadventure? Israel and oil.
Thanks Walt and Mersheimer, for speaking the truth.
But make no mistake. The Israeli occupied territory that is never talked about is US Congress
Citizen yup in the form of the Mosul to Haifa pipeline:
http://tinyurl.com/2e5ee5
As for Congress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx0n2NXSWIg
Takamine. Touche. Zorro would say.
Lets see now says Obi Wan. Dual Loyalties in marriage. Hey, I love you but tonite is Sadie's turn. How long to last?
Dual loyalties. Whats wrong with observing the Sabbath on Friday, Saturday as well as Sunday. What a way to go?
Overheard I do love my accounting position with Enron [fantastic 401k deal] as much as my work with Price Waterhouse. By the bye did that convicted NBA official have dual loyalties or did he hold both a British
passport as well as an American one? or was it Canadian?
Why stop at dual loyalties lets go all the way and get multiple ones. This will make it easier for the USA to decline at a faster rate than the Roman Empire did.
And we'll all live happily ever after with a Congress that is experienced in sticking to the code of multiple loyalties.
Why make a big deal about dual loyalties? why not have the Israelis hold Palestenian, as well as US passports and vice versa. This way when the draft is insitituted
all those r/wingers get the opportunity to participate in real killing.
The Israeli Lobby has exploited the many flaws in our democracy...like other lobbyist. They are allied of course with the Military Industrial Complex. I remember Shimon Peres saying Israel has always fought its own wars. "We never asked Americans to fight our wars." Lets see.. we have bases in all "friendly" Arab countries, wars raging in two others and we are threatening the third and last "unfriendly" Arab state. The only war we have not fought for Israel was Lebanon. We just stood by and gave the Lebanese some food stuffs when the bombing stopped. We need a 2nd Republic.
Does anyone have a theory as to why the Israel lobby is so powerful here? Remember, it was King George II's grandfather who was a supporter of Hitler.
How'd things flip around so markedly within 60 years? Banking empires (e.g. Rothschild, Goldman-Sachs, etc.)?
you know paul, i don't think the israeli lobby is at all powerful in any meaningful sense. i think these guys have it wrong: israel does what the u.s. wants or risks having its aid taken away, the threat of which is severe. in fact, bush I threatened israel when it started getting out of line and israel backed off. even though israel is insane and will probably never willingly agree to a legitimate settlement, i think it still takes orders from washington. so when controlling middle east oil and natural gas supplies is no longer a us priority, our support for israel will decline and all sorts of politicians will come out against israel for a fair settlement. we tell israel what to do, not the other way around.
Such a feisty discussion...
IMHO Carlin said it best...
"Religion easily—has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it.
Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man...living in the sky.
Who watches everything you do every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do.
And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place…
of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever,
and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time.
But he loves you. He loves you.
He loves you and he needs money."
~ George Carlin
Shalom my brothers and sisters.
It is beyond hilarious that they(the Zionists) continue to prove how powerful they are by ruthlessly attacking and condemning the authors of this book, as part of an attempt to "refute" how powerful they really are. Genius, ain't it? Kind of like a person screaming at the top of his lungs into a loudspeaker "I am not speaking loudly!!!!!"
All that money spent, all that wasted lobbying effort, yet they are so lacking in power. The one-sidedness of the mainstream media also reveals their lack of power. All the free trips to Israel for politicians, all the AIPAC conferences and meetings American politicians attend, not to mention the money given to pro-Israel candidates, and the money withheld from politicians not sufficiently pro-Israel. This powerless cult would consist of almost nothing but Jews if it were not for their drooling Christian Zionist dupes who seem to love Israel more than most Jewish-Americans love Israel.
It is so reassuring to know, for those that write checks to AIPAC and other Zionist groups, just how little power and influence they wield in Washington. Thank you again, Zionists, for your lock-step, well coordinated condemnations of this book(not yet released), all the while proving how lacking in power you are, LOL. I'll make sure I buy at least 25 copies and continue to ignore the Israeli fruit in the produce section. Shalom!
You can tell from their photographs that M&W are maddog rads, not to be trusted.
How did these loonies ever get to be bigwigs at CHicago and Harvard?
Time to sack them both (they can join the unemployment queue with Finkelstein), but not before some harsh punishment for their crimes, overseen by torture expert Dershowitz.
The US and EU are colonies of Israel
It has become clear to me during the past 20 years that both the EU and US are colonies of Israel. As long as Israel through its lobby controls Congress, this will not change. Its control is maintained by by the annual appropriation of several billion dollars for the support of Israel, a small part of which, 5% or so, is recycled to bribe the members of congress in the form of campaign contributions to keep the cycle going. The cooperation of the Pentagon and the arms industry are ensured by recycling some of the money for US arms to Israel. The only way to break this cycle, would be the election of a president who would refuse to play this game, some form of catastrophe or the US going broke. While the election of such a president can be prohibited by the Israel lobby, the two other possibilities are promoted by the continuation of this vicious cycle.
Hey Everybody.
Not to worry. Guiliani the Ultimate Republicans's candidate has AIPAC's, AEI, the Wall Street Journal as well as the chickenhawk/neocons 100% support and vote. He is aping Bebe Nethanyahu [ a prime exaample of dual loyalties] by confirming that he is against allowing the Palestenians to formally become what the UN back in 1948 decided when it created both an Israeli and a Palestenian state.
Rudy to the all the people, "hey leave my family out of this"[my campaign]
Now thats whats called a Category 6 Backlash. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. hail to the Chief.
So the USA and Europe, more than half a billion people, are colonies of Israel? ( Population : seven million.)
This claim takes absurdity about as far as it can go. Or perhaps the next enlightened informer will claim that Asia, Australia, and Africa are also Israeli colonies.
"Colonies"? That's arrant nonsense.
Israel is a client state of the USA hegemony.
And vice-versa.
John Hagee now there is a scary guy!!
One Easy Multiple Choice Question: Name which country who has refused to sign a treaty with the United States.
.........................
....................... Egypt
........................Israel
........................Jordan
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Simple to sign a treaty with the United States means all territory occupied BY WAR would have to IMMEDIATELY vacated.
..
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.. I S R A E L
Waiguoren:
"So the USA and Europe, more than half a billion people, are colonies of Israel? ( Population : seven million.)"
Just over 50 years ago the British could rightfuly say "The sun never sets on the British Empire" Why? Because they had colonies in every time zone on earth. Can a small country with a vast military and a lot of money countrol larger nations? History trumps propoganda.
Also recall Macedonia (as in Alexander the Great) one man forging an empire.
I for one will buy this book, though nothing in it will suprise me. It's my protest against AIPAC's censorship.
RE: EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS AND RIGHT WING JEWS: UNHOLY ALLIANCE
Paul Bramscher August 16th, 2007 11:19 pm
"theory as to why the Israel lobby is so powerful here?"
In considering its power, recall who is meant by "Israel lobby." Mearsheimer and Walt argue that the lobby is a coalition - not just Israel-connected organizations like AIPAC, but neoconservatives (among whom they identify prominent non-Jews) and the Christian right - Christian evangelicals for whom a non-Muslim Israel is part of an 'end of days' biblical prophecy.
Although these groups lobby and influence both Republicans and Democrats, it is important to recognize that the leadership of these groups (and much of their mass base) is predominantly right wing.
I have argued before that the power of the Israel lobby must be understood in the framework of a greater US foreign policy - the main shortcoming of Mearsheimer/Walt's article, in my view. I would add to that, now, that its power must be understood in the framework of U.S. right wing coalitional politics.
Socially, demographically, these two groups have little in common. Their extremism, theocratic vision of the state (the US and Israel), and their greater right wing and Republican identification - come together and find unity in support for the most right wing politics of Israel - the criminal occupation and oppression of Palestians.
In other words, the Israel lobby is a coalition of right wing interests. SO: one explanation for the power of the Israel lobby is the rise of the 'Christian coalition' and - more generally - the rise of the US right in the last 25 years.
These two articles address these topics:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1010-02.htm
"Conservative Christians Biggest Backers of Iraq War," Jim Lobe, October 10, 2002
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0519-05.htm
"An Unholy Alliance in Support of Israel," Jo-Ann Mort, May 19, 2002
"Your point about the British in India is well taken.
I forgot about the Israeli Army units patrolling the streets of Europe, and the many Israeli fortresses scattered about the continent."
I didn't specify India, I said the world. But now that you mention India, the first 200 years of Britans misadventures in India were done through business: The East India Trading Company, British Raj came about in the 19th century. Expanded at the end of the 19th century to Empire with the helpful influence of Benjamin Disraili, I might add.
Also the fortresses in India were built by Indians not the British.
Historically, Jewish influence is much greater than most people realize. For instance how many people know their are large jewish settlements in south america?
It is both sides of the same coin, the censorship goes beyond what you can say about jews collectively. It also isolates them from a larger context. I think all this has roots in WW2 which was financed by special interest groups. (All wars are financed by special interest groups)
If your native born american I think you can see that religious freedom is one thing and the old bitter feuds that surround religion take root wherever they are planted.
Disraeli ( get you spelling right), by the way, was a Christian.
Yes, the Jews have influence beyond their numbers, who would deny it.
That's because when they came to the USA with next to nothing in great numbers in the 19th century, the immigration officials had two lines. One agent said," Everyone over here who wants to control the media and Hollywood and banking."
Luckily for the Jews, many of them got in the right line.
Ah! The streets truly were paved with gold ! No effort required !
Dear Misters Walt and Mearsheimer,
Thanks for your courage on speaking out on this issue. It's high time this matter has sunlight on it. I can't begin to number how many times I have written to Congress and asked who they (Congress)work for -- the American public or the Israeli government? On just the Lebanon bombing issue -- My Senator (Ted Kennedy) told me when I wrote and demanded he not support the continued bombing of Lebanon and the subsequent shipment of arms/cluster boms, that the U.S. ought to be an honest broker for peace -- he stated "We cannot do that until the Israeli soldiers were released". What a croc!~ Meanwhile, Israel holds nearly 10,000 kidnapped Palestinians including hundreds of women and children in their prisons without any representation, many for years and years already (just the tip of the iceberg). The Israeli purposeful bombardment of Lebanon would not have stopped when it did without International intervention -- A shameful stand on Senator Kennedy's part. I disagreed hotly with him and let him know it. Most members of Congress never answer honestly, and are not an honest broker for peace-- as he claimed, because they take too much AIPAC money. I will be purchasing your book. Anyway, thank you for speaking the truth.
How did you manage to get a phone call though to Ted Kennedy?
Gotta love how Congress defends AIPAC's contributions in the face of the FBI probe. I guess they forgot they were supposed to work for the American people and not the Israelis.
http://wexler.house.gov/news.php?ID=59
" Also the fortresses in India were built by Indians not the British".
Another cogent point.
And did you know the plantations in the antebellum South were build by African slaves, not by the White planters?