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Most California Voters Want to Pull US Troops out of Iraq, Field Poll Shows
SAN FRANCISCO - Californians want Congress to move swiftly to end the Iraq war, with nearly 6 in 10 state voters saying lawmakers should set a deadline to start withdrawing U.S. troops by spring, according to a Field Poll released today.
The poll also found new signs that even President Bush's base is abandoning him on the war: 40 percent of California Republicans now favor pulling out some or all troops from Iraq and 30 percent want the Democratic-led Congress to pass legislation to require the president to do so.
Voter anger over Iraq is the main reason Bush's approval ratings in the state have stayed at rock bottom: 26 percent of voters approve of his job performance, compared with 65 percent who disapprove. Only President Richard Nixon dipped to lower levels - a 24 percent approval rating - and that was at the height of the Watergate scandal.
Bush's approval rating also was 26 percent in March, the last time the Field Poll conducted its survey.
"This is the lowest approval rating for an extended period of time of any U.S. president" in California, said Mark DiCamillo, director of the Field Poll. "That rating for Nixon was just for one moment in time, and then he resigned."
Bush still has 17 months in office and his ratings could plunge further, especially as he presses ahead with an unpopular war. Democrats in California have long disliked his policies (only 9 percent give him a favorable rating) and most independents share that view (19 percent approve of his job performance).
Bush also is losing support among his base: More than half of state GOP voters approve of his job performance overall - 53 percent - but they give him poor marks on Iraq: 49 percent disapprove of his handling of the war, while 46 percent approve.
"He's had some erosion in support among Republicans," DiCamillo said. "And that's where he could decline further."
Fifty-eight percent of state voters said Congress should pass legislation to start a troop pullout in spring, while 38 percent oppose the idea.
The new poll, which mirrors the results of national polls on Bush and the war, is likely to embolden House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco and other Democratic leaders who are seeking to use congressional leverage to force an end to the Iraq war.
Bush could find himself boxed in: As more Republican voters favor a partial or full withdrawal, he'll likely find less support in Congress for his troop surge, particularly among GOP senators who hold the key to continuing his policy.
"It means the stakes are pretty high with the Petraeus report," said Jack Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College in Los Angeles, referring to the report - expected in September - by Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, which will detail the initial results of the troop surge.
"If the report indicates real progress, that may stop the erosion and shore up the president's standing," Pitney said. "But if the report has any hints of pessimism, that slide may continue and pressure for a faster withdrawal will increase."
Californians have long held deep misgivings about the Iraq war, but the new poll shows that a strong majority of voters are now convinced it's time to get out of Iraq. The survey found 39 percent want to withdraw all U.S. troops and 26 percent would withdraw some troops. Only 18 percent of those surveyed would keep the current levels and 10 percent would send more troops.
The switch among Republicans is stark. Two years ago, 26 percent of state GOP voters supported withdrawing some or all U.S. troops from Iraq - now 40 percent support a pullout.
The finding is in line with a new CBS News poll, released this week, which found that 30 percent of voters nationwide favored removing all U.S. troops from Iraq, while 31 percent backed pulling out some. DiCamillo said the CBS News poll shows that the nation is now moving closer to Californians' views on the war.
"I would say voters in this state have been way out in front of their elected representatives with regard to what the policies should be in Iraq," DiCamillo said. "Voters were more in favor of withdrawal even two years ago. ... The legislators are not really keeping pace with the public on this issue."
The poll of 1,029 registered voters was conducted Aug. 3-12. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points and 4.5 percentage points for the smaller groups of party voters.
© 2007 Hearst Communications Inc.
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Show AllImpeaching Bush and Cheney is also a good idea.
They will never "pull out" all the troops as long as there is oil there, just realize that. Even the Democrats say they will leave some troops there. The US will be in Iraq for the next 20 years, no matter what anybody says.
And I live in California by the way, and Californians are idiots still thundering around in big cars and SUV's as if global warming won't affect them.
Send your Governor over there. Arnold will win the war in three days.
The war will only end when the profits dry up.
Politicians understand that when the Iraq occupation stops growing, the stock market will drop more than it is currently dropping due to the liquidity "crisis". Since no politician wants to be blamed for impacting the stock market, look for the Iraq occupation to continue for years to come.
It ain't gonna take years for the stock market to tumble.
This report suggests that Bush's approval rating may improve if the Petraeus Surge report comes back "favorable."
Hate to break it to you folks, but the White House is writing the report. Petraeus will only apply his rubber stamp to the useless thing.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pullback15aug15,0,4840766.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center
A report written in crayon on a Big Chief tablet ain't gonna change a thing.
Peace to you and yours.
This article is such b... s...!
June 26th 2007: Poll: Support for Iraq War at New Low
A new poll shows support for the Iraq war has reached an all-time low of thirty-percent. According to CNN, nearly two-thirds of Americans favor an immediate withdrawal. More than half say U.S. action in Iraq is not morally justified.
It is a complete lie which tries to present the opinion as being the majority in just California.
Did you fall for it?
Macchendra: I think you misread the article. It did not state that this antiwar majority exists ONLY in California. It is an article in a California paper about the sentiment IN California. Are you saying that your local newspaper shouldn't write about the opinions of people in your town unless they also include the opinions of people in San Francisco? Come on, that's a bit much isn't it? I get the feeling that you just don't like California very much.
But just to be clear, the article does mention the same national statistics that you quote, except they come from a CBS News poll, "...released this week, which found that 30 percent of voters nationwide favored removing all U.S. troops from Iraq, while 31 percent backed pulling out some."
Quote from the article, "The new poll, which mirrors the results of national polls on Bush and the war, is likely to embolden House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco and other Democratic leaders who are seeking to use congressional leverage to force an end to the Iraq War."
Give me a fricken break! NOTHING can embolden Pelosi at this point. She lost all credibility with the last pathetic vote when she bent over for George and funded the war.
What a candy coated, whimpy article once again from the Chronicle. You guys need to get your heads out of that San Francisco fog!
I hope Cindy Sheehan knocks that plastic smile off Pelosi and starts some real action!
Why are they wasting time asking citizens these questions?
Nobody important cares what they think. You don't think Pelosi gives a flip what California voters think, do ya? Or at least not till someone hand her the report that says Cindy is polling at 55% in her district. Short of that, with an honest vote count, it ain't the voters of California that pull Pelosi's strings.
Bring 'Em Home for the Holidays Antiwar Rally
Friday, August 17, 7:00 pm in Union Square, San Francisco
The San Francisco Coordinating Council of MoveOn.org will host an anti-war rally showing support for the US troops in Iraq and calling for their safe return home by December at a "Home for the Holidays" rally in Union Square on Friday, August 17 at 7:00 p.m. Rally organizers will also release a hard-hitting report to local media detailing what the war has cost our congressional district in health care and education costs.
At sunset the tree will light up with star-shaped photo ornaments honoring California soldiers currently serving in Iraq. Some of the soldiers' photos have been sent in for the occasion by their families and loved ones who are demanding an end to the U.S. presence in Iraq. Participants, including vets and families of vets, will place the ornaments, say a few words in tribute, then light the tree and a giant menorah and sing carols calling for peace. Oversized, present-like boxes with dollar sums noted in bold type will be positioned under the tree to call attention to the health care and educational benefits our district has sacrificed in order to fund the war to date.
Event URL: . Use this URL to register your intention to participate.
(Ignore the error on the website that refers to the event as being on the 16th. It is definitely on the 17th. That error should be corrected soon.)
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Dear California veterans, families of veterans and families of service people currently serving in the war on Iraq:
We invite you to participate in a peaceful, "Bring Them Home for the Holidays" rally to end the war on Friday, August 17 at 7:00 p.m. in San Francisco's Union Square. Sponsored by the San Francisco Coordinating Council of MoveOn, this event will honor California soldiers currently serving in the military.
Participants at this event, including vets and families of vets, will place star-shaped ornaments with photos of our servicemen and servicewomen on a "Christmas" tree, say a few words in tribute, then light the tree and a giant Menorah and sing carols calling for peace.
There are a number of ways you can participate in support of your loved one currently serving in Iraq or elsewhere:
1) Send us a photo of your family member currently serving in the war and we will place it in the center of a star-shaped ornament to be hung on the tree as part of our ceremony August 17. Please include your loved one's name, rank and service location along with your contact number and email.
2) Attend the August 17 rally and place your photo ornament on the tree yourself.
3) Attend and speak at the rally calling for the safe return of the troops in time for the holidays.
You and your loved ones bear the most personal risks and sacrifices of this war. That's why your participation is key in our peaceful efforts to persuade our government to end the war. I hope you can participate in one or all three of the ways outlined above. Any level of participation on your part will help us reach a broader audience with our message of peace. As a minimum, I hope you will fill out and send me the form below with a photo so that we can include you and/or your loved one in this important event. If you have questions or suggestions for other ways that you can participate, please contact me.
Thanks for your time and consideration,
Nancy Stark
MoveOn Volunteer & San Francisco Co-Coordinator
3830 24th Street #5
San Francisco, CA 94114
nancysstark@yahoo.com
cell 415.290.2441
PHOTO USE PERMISSION
[Send with your photo]
___Yes, please place the enclosed photo of my love one on a star-shaped ornament to be hung on the Christmas tree at the "Bring Them Home for the Holidays" event.
Name, age, rank and location of service member pictured and currently serving in the war:
Your relationship to this person:
Your Name: __________________________
Address: __________________________
__________________________
Phone: __________________________
Email: __________________________
___Yes, I will attend the event.
___ I will be unable to attend the event.
___Yes, I will attend the event and I would like to speak at the event.
Please email the form and photo to SF Council of MoveOn at:
nancysstark@yahoo.com
THANK YOU.
Location: Union Square, San Francisco
California, the left coast stereotype has nearly 2/3rds support for immediate withdrawal. But then, so does the nation on average according to a recent CNN poll. Pointing out that California does too is like saying: "I saw that piece of clothing you're wearing on (insert reference to ridiculed stereotype)", when in fact it is what everyone is wearing.
Just because I notice the anti-Californian propaganda and consider it's presence in the overall message of the right-wing media doesn't mean I am anti-Californian.
"embolden Nancy"? Gee, what recent cliche does that bring to mind?
Uh oh... we are going to embolden the democrats, who are going to embolden the terrorists...all emboldened by California.
THE EMBOLDENING:
They are rewriting the history of the war even now, and it is with the slander that we lost the war because the left, the democrats, and the peace movement all emboldened the terrorists. This is just the faintest seed of lies to come.
I look for the market to crash this October.
These recent events are just fore shocks of bigger things to come.
macchendra:
I don't think so. The "Up" (I hereby refuse to use left vs. right) concieved of this war, invented reasons for it, and took us headlong into a Halliburton oil-grab. None of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi, yadda yadda yadda. There's no serious historian out there, at this stage, that's going to rewrite this.
The "Up" lost the gambit. They hoped that 9/11 would provide extreme national unity for any sort of military action afterwards, they hoped that the aircraft carrier "combat done" landing photo-op would get huge political perks, they hoped that hanging Saddam would likewise bring the political points home to push them to even greater heights.
But instead it was one miscalculation after the other. The public felt that Bush was negligent on the watch (9/11), the aircraft carrier thing was a cheap photo-op and everyone knew it, and it was Osama that should have hung (assuming you believe the official story) and not Saddam. Meanwhile, the middle-class continues to evaporate and the banks run roughshod over people's lives and dreams.
As a unitary, Bush provided only miscalculation after miscalculation.
Hi Paul,
They still have the megaphone and repetition, and also this nation still has Alzheimer's. They wanted to do this with the Vietnam war and succeeded pretty well despite not having laid the groundwork early. (I don't think they expected the anti-war movement.) They were setting it up with their pre-surge talk of: "It is going to require an enormous amount of 'political will' to win this." They had tried repeatedly to put forth a proposal the Democrats would find objectionable, but to their consternation (and ours), the Democrats kept caving... an act equated to 'political will'.
3702 men and women for what? We went there to get rid of Saddam, then we stuck around so they could form a government, now we are helping in a civil war. What's next? This war has already cost the tax payers 452 billon dollars. click onto antiwar.com and look where this money could have been spent. Bush and Cheney are smiling all the way to the bank.