Humane Meat? A Contradiction in Terms.
People have become increasingly aware that virtually all of the 10 billion land animals slaughtered in the U.S. each year for their meat, eggs and milk are terribly mistreated . In fact, routine farming practices are so abusive that they would warrant felony animal cruelty charges were they done to cats or dogs.As a result, huge numbers of compassionate people have joined the ranks of the vegetarians. Some, however, have looked instead to meat from animals treated less badly, which they call "humane meat." This raises three questions. First, is there such a thing as truly "humane meat"? Second, would consuming only humane meat satisfy the demands of ethical living? And third, do we, as individuals, have good reason to promote "humane meat" rather than vegetarianism?
Not only are many of the humane labels -like "Swine Welfare" and "Animal Care Certified"-entirely meaningless, describing animals treated in nearly exactly the same way as unlabeled products (see PETA's discussion at GoVeg.com ), but please ask yourself a basic question: Would you be willing to cut an animal's throat? For most of us, taking an animal's life is anathema; we just wouldn't do it. Of course, all of us could spend an afternoon shucking corn, watch a cornfield being tilled, or take part in every other aspect of getting plant foods to the table.
But how many of us could spend an afternoon cutting animals' throats, or even watching it? And then ask yourself in what other areas of your life do you pay others to do things you find too repulsive? And how ethical is it to pay someone to do things that are wholly unnecessary and too atrocious to watch?
We have no nutritional need for meat, eggs or milk. Eating meat means, quite literally, eating a corpse. It means robbing the animal of her or his life, and then devouring the body. Animals are all made of flesh, blood and bone, just like we are; they have the same five physiological senses of touch, smell, sight, hearing and taste. They are more like us than they are different.
People like Albert Einstein and Leo Tolstoy argued this very point, that using our power to harm the weak and innocent-on an issue as essential to who we are as eating-is fundamental to all moral action. Tolstoy summed it up by saying, "Vegetarianism is the taproot of humanitarianism." Einstein spoke of the human arrogance that considered ourselves apart and superior to other species, calling this justification for exploiting them "a kind of optical delusion of consciousness." He pleaded that "our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion," calling for "the evolution to a vegetarian diet." How can we try to create a better and more compassionate world while dining on the corpses of defenseless victims, each time we sit down to eat?
Perhaps the most critical point, though, for those who oppose factory farming and modern slaughterhouses, is that your decisions influence others, and your decision to eat any meat at all (even if the meat is from producers that are less abusive) will cause others you know to eat factory farmed meat, where they might otherwise not have.
I've been a vegan for 20 years now, and in that time, I've convinced many friends and acquaintances to follow my lead. Each one of these individuals saves just as many animals as my vegetarianism does. In other words, my example has exponentially multiplied the good for animals of my own decision. But the reverse is also true: By not advocating vegetarianism, all those saved animals would have, instead, suffered terrible lives and died horrible deaths.
Most people look at someone eating "humane" meat and simply see a fellow meat-eater; they are not likely to change their own diets, in part because for most people meat is meat, and in part because eating "humane" meat is far more difficult than eating vegetarian. Every restaurant and supermarket has food for vegetarians, but fewer than one in 10,000 (literally) has "humanely" labeled meat.
I want to be clear that, as I've argued before, working for improved living and dying conditions for farmed animals is a critical element in the animal rights movement, and I spend a large portion of my time, day in and day out, working to change the way animals are raised and slaughtered. Victories like the banning of gestation crates in Oregon, Arizona, and Florida are real victories for animals. Burger King's decision to give preferential option to chicken plants that slaughter animals in a controlled atmosphere is praiseworthy, and Whole Foods' commitment to real change for farmed animals should be celebrated. We can't just ignore their suffering, as people who care about animals. And of course, eating meat from animals who are not gratuitously abused is better than eating meat from animals who are.
But for individuals who care about cruelty, vegetarianism is the only choice. Vegetarianism makes a statement against oppression at every meal. It is incredibly fulfilling to know that, where you can, you are promoting practices that are kind, rather than cruel, and helping to create a society that is life-giving, rather than life-taking.
Remember, it's not a matter of putting animals ahead of human beings. Vegetarian advocates are simply suggesting that meat-eaters not ignore the concerns of animals entirely by dining on their corpses.
It's not that much to ask, and lives are depending on us.
Bruce Friedrich is vice-president for campaigns, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). Before coming to work for PETA, he spent six years running a shelter for homeless families and soup kitchen in Washington, DC. He has been a progressive activist for more than 20 years.
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Show AllAs I've stated before, compassion for animals, by itself, is merely an ethic...not a religion. Most of the opposition to the animal rights ethic, however, seems to come from religious rather than secular persons. It is necessary, therefore, that animal activists be prepared to defend themselves in the theological arena.
The most-repeated argument against biblical vegetarianism I've gotten from Christians is that they think they are no longer under Mosaic Law, because the apostle Paul referred to his background as a former Pharisee and his previous adherence to Mosaic Law (with its dietary laws, commandments calling for the humane treatment of animals, etc.) as "so much garbage." (Philippians 3:4-8)
There is nothing in the synoptic gospels of Jesus, however, to suggest a fundamental break with Judaism. Jesus was called "Rabbi," meaning "Master" or "Teacher," 42 times in the gospels. The ministry of Jesus was a rabbinic one. Jesus related Scripture and God's laws to everyday life, teaching by personal example. He engaged in healing and acts of mercy. He told stories or parables--a rabbinic method of teaching. He went to the synagogue (Matthew 12:9), taught in the synagogues (Matthew 4:23, 13:54; Mark 1:39), expressed concern for Jairus, "one of the rulers of the synagogue" (Mark 5:36) and it "was his custom" to go to the synagogue (Luke 4:16).
Jesus began his ministry by teaching the multitudes not to "give what is sacred to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine." (Matthew 7:6) Dogs, like swine, were considered foul and unclean by the Hebrew people. (Deuteronomy 23:18; I Samuel 24:14; II Kings 8:13; Psalm 22:16,20; Matthew 7:6; Luke 16:21; Revelations 22:15) These words were used by the children of Israel to describe the neighboring heathen populations.
When sending his disciples out to preach, Jesus instructed them not to go to the gentiles, but to "go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 10:5-6) When a Canaanite woman asked Jesus to heal her daughter, he replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...It is not fair to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." (Matthew 15:22-28)
Jesus regarded the gentiles as "dogs." His gospel was intended for the Jewish people. Even the apostle Paul admits that the gospel was first intended for the Jews, and that the Jews have every advantage over the gentiles in this regard (Romans 1:16, 3:1-2).
When a scribe asked Jesus what is the greatest commandment in the Torah, Jesus began with "Hear O Israel, the Lord, thy God, is One Lord." This is the Shema, which is still heard in every synagogue service to this day. "And you shall love the Lord with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength...And you shall love your neighbor as yourself," Jesus concluded.
When the scribe agreed that God is one and that to love Him completely and also love one's neighbor as oneself is "more important than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices," Jesus replied, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." (Matthew 22:36-40; Mark 12:29-34; Luke 10:25-28)
In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus himself said, "Do not suppose I have come to abolish the Law and the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill...till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle pass from the Law till all is fulfilled. Whoever, therefore, breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven...unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-20)
Jesus also upheld the Torah in Luke 16:17: "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the smallest portion of the Law to become invalid."
Nor do these words refer merely to the Ten Commandments. Jesus meant the entire Torah: 613 commandments. When a man asked Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life, Jesus replied, "You know the commandments." He then quoted not just the Ten Commandments, but a commandment from Leviticus 19:13 as well: "Do not defraud." (Mark 10:17-22)
Jesus' disciples were once accused by the scribes and Pharisees of violating rabbinical tradition (Matthew 15:1-2; Mark 7:5), but not biblical law. At no place in the entire New Testament does Jesus ever proclaim Torah or the Law of Moses to be abolished; this was the theology of Paul, a former Pharisee who never knew Jesus, but who used to persecute Jesus' followers. Paul openly identified himself not as a Jew but as a Roman (Acts 22:25-26) and an apostate from Judaism (Philippians 3:4-8)
Sometimes Christians cite Matthew 7:12, where Jesus says "Do unto others..." and this "covers" the Law and the prophets. But Jesus was merely repeating in the positive what Rabbi Hillel taught a generation earlier. No one took Hillel's words to mean the Law had been abolished--why should we assume this of Jesus?
If Jesus really did come to abolish the Law and the prophets, Simon (Peter) would not have resisted a divine command to kill and eat both "clean" and "unclean" animals (Acts 10), nor would there have been a debate in the early church as to what extent the gentiles were to observe Mosaic Law (Acts 15). When Paul visited the church at Jerusalem, James and the elders told him all its members were "zealous for the Law," and that they were worried because they heard rumors that Paul was preaching against Mosaic Law (Acts 21).
None of these events would have happened had Jesus really come to abolish the Law and the prophets. Jesus not only repeatedly upheld Mosaic Law, he justified his healing on the Sabbath by referring to commandments calling for the humane treatment of animals!
While teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath, Jesus healed a woman who had been ill for eighteen years. He justified his healing work on the Sabbath by referring to biblical passages calling for the humane treatment of animals as well as their rest on the Sabbath. "So ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham...be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?" Jesus asked. (Luke 13:10-16)
On yet another occasion, Jesus again referred to Torah teaching on "tsa'ar ba'alei chayim" or compassion for animals to justify healing on the Sabbath. "Which of you, having a donkey or an ox that has fallen into a pit, will not immediately pull him out on the Sabbath day?" (Luke 14:1-5)
Jesus compared saving sinners who had gone astray from God's kingdom to rescuing lost sheep. He recalled a Jewish legend about Moses' compassion as a shepherd for his flock:
"For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. What do you think? Who among you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it," Jesus continued, "he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home,he calls together his friends and neighbors saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'
"I say to you, likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance...there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." (Matthew 18:11-13; Luke 15:3-7,10)
Paul, on the other hand, said if anyone has confidence in Mosaic Law, "I am ahead of him" (Philippians 3:4-8). Would that include Jesus, who said he did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets? Would that include Jesus, who said whoever sets aside even the least of the laws demands shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-19)? Would that include Jesus, who taught that following the commandments of God is the only way to eternal life (Mark 10:17-22)? Would that include Jesus who said that it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the smallest portion of the Law to become invalid (Luke 16:17)?
Paul may have regarded his previous adherence to Mosaic Law as "so much garbage," but it should be obvious by now that JESUS DIDN'T THINK THE LAW WAS "GARBAGE"!
If Christians assign greater value to Paul's teachings over those of Jesus, then "Christianity" really is "Paulianity". Bertrand Russell referred to Paul as the "inventor" of Christianity.
I'm not saying Christians should all be circumcised and following Mosaic Law. The Reverend Andrew Linzey, the foremost theologian in the field of animal-human relations and author of Christianity and the Rights of Animals (1987), rejected such an approach in a 1989 interview with the Animals' Agenda.
I'm merely saying that Christianity for the past 2000 years has been based on a misunderstanding. My friend Rankin Fisher (a former Missionary Baptist minister), quoted a Methodist minister friend of his as having admitted, "We (Christians) aren't really following Jesus. We're following Paul."
tech2,
In one sense, I agree with you. I don't consider vegetarianism to be a religion in and of itself: merely an ethic, like opposing slavery or opposing abortion or opposing capital punishment. But history shows that for thousands of years, vegetarianism has been intimately tied to numerous religions in the East and West. In the West, ethical vegetarianism can be traced to Pythagoras, and until the 19th century, vegetarians were called "Pythagoreans," even if they did not share all of Pythagoras' beliefs.
Pythagoras (570-470 BC) was born on the island colony of Samos. Historian Dr. Martin A. Larson describes him as "A universal genius...He made important contributions to music and astronomy; he was a metaphysician, a natural philosopher, a social revolutionary, a political organizer, and the universal theologian. He was one of those all-embracing intellects which appears at rare intervals." Pythagoras' biographer Diogenes Laertius records that he did not "neglect medicine;" his followers contributed to medical wisdom. In the history of religion, Pythagoras was the first person to teach the concepts of reincarnation, heaven and hell to the Western world.
Diogenes Laertius writes that Pythagoras warned that all who did not accept his teachings would suffer torment in the afterlife, while promising his followers the spiritual kingdom. According to the early Christian father Eusebius: "Pythagoras...declared...that the doctrines which he had received...were a personal revelation to himself from God."
Pythagoras was driven from his native Samos in 529 BC when the tyrant Polycrates declared him a subversive. He went to Croton in Italy, established a school of philosophy, and lectured to classes of up to six hundred students. He founded a monastic order that soon became very influential. It was basically a religious sect made up of dedicated saints practicing vegetarianism, voluntary poverty and chastity.
In less that two decades, the Pythagoreans were numerous and powerful enough to take political power without having to resort to force or violence. History shows that when the Pythagoreans were attacked and massacred in Magna Grecia in 450 BC, they practiced nonviolence and did not resist their aggressors.
Ancient and modern historians alike acknowledge that Pythagoras was vegetarian. This was the conclusion of Plutarch, Ovid, Diogenes Laertius and Iamblichus in ancient times, and it is the conclusion of scholars today. Nor was vegetarianism loosely connected with the Pythagorean philosophy—it was an integral part of it.
"Oh, my fellow men!" exclaimed Pythagoras. "Do not defile your bodies with sinful foods. We have corn. We have apples bending down the branches with their weight, and grapes swelling on the vines. There are sweet flavored herbs and vegetables which can be cooked and softened over the fire. Nor are you denied milk or thyme-scented honey. The earth affords you a lavish supply of riches, of innocent foods, and offers you banquets that involve no bloodshed or slaughter."
Pythagoras' meals consisted of honeycomb, millet or barley bread, and vegetables. He would pay fishermen to throw their catch back into the sea. Ironically, he claimed to have been a fisherman in a previous life. He abhorred animal sacrifice and wine, and would only sacrifice cakes, honey, and frankincense to the gods. He revered the altar at Delos because it was free from blood sacrifices. Upon it, he offered flour, meal, and cakes made without the use of fire. Pythagoras would not associate with cooks or hunters.
According to Iamblichus, Pythagoras taught his followers not to kill even a flea, especially in a temple. He not only showed respect for gods, humans, and animals, but also for the trees, which were not to be destroyed, unless absolutely necessary. It is said Pythagoras pet an eagle, told an ox not to trample a bean field, and fed a ferocious bear barley and acorns, telling it not to attack humans any more.
Pythagoras not only taught transmigration of the soul, or reincarnation, but even claimed to remember his previous lives. It is said Pythagoras once stopped a man from beating a dog, because in the dog's yelping he recognized the voice of an old friend. For Pythagoras, killing animals for food meant causing suffering or death to living creatures just as worthy of moral concern as human beings, and who may also have been human in previous lifetimes.
The Roman poet Ovid (43 BC - 18 AD), quoted Pythagoras in the 15th chapter of Metamorphosis as follows: "Our souls are immortal, and are ever received into new homes where they live and dwell, when they have left their previous abode...All things change, but nothing dies; the spirit wanders hither and tither, taking possession of what limbs it pleases, passing from beasts into human beings, or again our human spirit passes into beasts, but never at any time does it perish...Alas, what wickedness to swallow flesh into our own flesh, to fatten our greedy bodies by cramming in other bodies, to have one living creature fed by the death of another!"
If souls can transmigrate from one species to another, and all souls are of the same nature, then the unnecessarily killing animals is as morally indefensible as the unnecessary killing of human beings. Pythagoras may have also drawn a parallel between the plight of animals in human hands, and the fate of humans in the hands of the gods. We humans would suffer should the gods unnecessarily kill or torment us; we should likewise treat the animal world with mercy.
Local tradition says Pythagoras spent time living in a cave on Mount Kerkis in Samos. He was the first person in the history of the world to deduce that the Earth is a sphere. He may have reached this conclusion by comparing the Earth to the Sun and the Moon, or perhaps he noticed the curved shadow of the Earth upon the Moon during a lunar eclipse, or he may have seen that when ships depart and recede over the horizon, their masts disappear last.
The famous "Pythagorean theorem" is now known to have been mathematical knowledge long before Pythagoras. Square roots and cube roots and the "Pythagorean" theorem are mentioned in the Sulbha Sutras of Bodhayana, in India. (700 BC) Bodhayana also calculated the areas of triangles, circles, trapezoids and determined the value of pi = 3.14136 in measuring and constructing temple altars. Some scholars believe Pythagoras may have received his wisdom from the East.
What was significant about Pythagoras' approach, however, was that he did more than list examples of this theorem: he developed a method of mathematical proof of the theorem, based on deduction. Our modern tradition of mathematical proof, the basis for every kind of science, originated in the West with Pythagoras.
Whereas classical Indian mathematics tended to be intuitive, the Greeks established a tradition of rigorous mathematical proofs. Pythagoras further taught that the world is well-ordered, harmonious, and may be comprehended through human reason. He was the first to use the word "cosmos" to denote a fathomable universe. According to Pythagoras, the laws of nature could be deduced purely by thought.
During the Renaissance and the age of Enlightenment, Kepler and Newton thought of the world in terms of harmony—the order and beauty of planetary motion and the existence of mathematical laws explaining such motion, and from them came our modern scientific belief that the entire universe can be measured, quantified, and explained in terms of mathematical relationships. These ideas began with Pythagoras. "Chemistry is simply numbers," said Dr. Carl Sagan, "an idea Pythagoras would have liked."
Pythagorean science was far more theoretical than experimental. However, one of Pythagoras' students, Alcmaeon, is the first person known to have dissected a human body. He further identified arteries and veins, discovered the optic nerve and the eustachian tubes, and declared the brain to be the seat of the intellect. This final contention was denied by Aristotle, who placed intelligence in the heart. Alcmaeon also founded the science of embryology.
The Pythagoreans also contributed to medical ethics through the Oath of Hippocrates. Hippocrates was a physician who lived in the 5th century BC. In a treatise entitled "The Sacred Disease," he maintained that epilepsy and other illnesses were not the result of evil spirits or angry gods, but due to natural causes.
Hippocrates has been called the "Father of Medicine," the "wisest and greatest practitioner of his art," and the "most important and most complete medical personality of antiquity." Before Hippocrates, the physician studied plants and animals and had a working knowledge of both harmful and beneficial remedies. He could simultaneously heal some patients while killing others. Hippocrates believed in the sanctity of life and called other physicians to the highest ethical standards and conduct.
"Throughout the primitive world, the doctor and the sorcerer tended to be the same person," observed anthropologist Margaret Mead. "He with the power to kill had the power to cure, including especially the undoing of his own killing activities. He who had the power to cure would necessarily also be able to kill." According to Mead, the Oath of Hippocrates marked a turning point in the history of Western civilization because "for the first time in our tradition" it caused "a complete separation between curing and killing.
"With the Greeks," concluded Dr. Mead, "the distinction was made clear. One profession, the followers of Asclepius, were to be dedicated completely to life under all circumstances, regardless of the rank, age, or intellect—the life of a slave, the life of the Emperor, the life of a foreign man, the life of a defective child."
The United States Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, noted that the Oath of Hippocrates, which forbids physicians from performing abortions, "echoes Pythagorean doctrines."
The Oath of Hippocrates and its modern equivalent, the Declaration of Geneva, enacted by the World Medical Association in 1948, are frequently cited by the American Medical Association in its prohibition against medical participation in legally authorized executions. A code of conduct for physicians as healers, as well as concern for the rights and well-being of the patient, originated with Hippocrates and the Pythagorean tradition.
Despite these and many other outstanding contributions to ethics, medicine, music, astronomy, geometry and general science, mathematics dominated Pythagorean thought. The Pythagoreans were mathematicians as well as mystics. Pythagoras taught that the laws of Nature could be deduced through logic and reason. They delighted in the absolute certainty of mathematics, and found in it a pure and undefiled realm accessible to the human intellect. They believed that in mathematics they had glimpsed a perfect reality, a realm of the gods, of which our own world is but an imperfect reflection.
Pythagorean theology was dualistic; it contrasted this corruptible, earthly sphere with a pure and divine realm. One's higher nature, the eternal soul, is entangled in temporal flesh. The body is like a tomb. The soul must not become a slave to the body and its lusts. One must not fall prey to the demands of the flesh.
Pythagoreanism exerted a profound influence upon Plato, and, later, Christian theology. In Plato's famous parable of the cave, prisoners are tied to stakes so they can only see shadows of passerby and believe the shadows to be real—unaware of the higher reality that is accessible if they would simply turn their heads. The Pythagorean concept of a perfect and mystical world, unseen by the senses, and inaccessible to flesh and blood was also readily accepted by the early Christians.
History tells us there were two classes of Pythagoreans. The akousmatikoi heard the teachings of the Master and followed them to a degree, but were never initiated into the deeper levels of mysticism. By contrast, the mathematikoi were strict Pythagoreans, living as ascetics, and observing the holy way of life taught by the Master.
Pythagoras established a monastic order at Croton that soon became a vegetarian colony. After the massacre in Magna Grecia in 450 BC, the political fortunes of the Pythaoreans declined. By 350 BC, Pythagoreanism had become more of a religious sect than a philosophical school of thought. As a religion, Pythagoreanism continued to attract spiritual seekers for over seven centuries.
Pythagorean thought was familiar to the leadership of the early Christian church. The Christian father Justin Martyr wrote that when he was a youth seeking spiritual enlightenment, he first went to the Pythagoreans. A "celebrated" Pythagorean teacher told him, however, that before he could be initiated into any kind of mysticism, he would first have to master music, geometry and astronomy.
Discouraged, he turned to the Platonists. Their way of life may have been equally demanding. Jesus' demands upon anyone wishing to become his disciple are well-known. These did not deter Justin Martyr from eventually converting to Christianity.
Although the Pythagoreans acknowledged the minor gods of the Greek pantheon, they also recognized a Supreme Being. According to authorities within the early Christian church, the Pythagoreans were monotheists:
"God is one; and He is not...outside of the frame of things, but within it; but, in all the entireness of His being is in the whole circle of existence...the mind and vital power of the whole world," wrote Clement of Alexandria in Exhortation VI, quoting Pythagoras. The Pythagoreans held a pantheistic concept of God, recognizing His omnipresent Spirit, but with no knowledge of His personal form —a concept which the Stoics were to adopt. Like the Jews and the Zoroastrians, the Pythagoreans consequently forbade the worship of images and statues.
First century Pythagoreanism is described in detail in The Life of Apollonius of Tyana. The ancient texts records this neoplatonic philosopher and miracle worker having a divine birth, absorbing the wisdom of Pythagoras, practicing celibacy, vegetarianism, as well as voluntary poverty; healing the sick, restoring sight to the blind, exorcising demons, foretelling the future, and teaching the innermost secrets of religion. Finally, the text says he never died, but went directly to heaven in a physical assumption.
The philosopher Empodocles (5th century BC) wrote that the ancients were much more fortunate than modern man because they were vegetarian and there was neither animal sacrifices nor war. He described humanity in previous ages using statues, pictures, perfumes and honey in their worship. They did not offer animals, Empodocles maintained, because to kill an animal for sacrifice or food is the greatest moral wrong. Empodocles described these ancient races as gentle to animals and birds as well as to each other.
Empodocles was greatly influenced by Pythagorean doctrine. He believed in the transmigration of souls:
"For I was once already boy and girl,
Thicket and bird, and mute fish in the waves
All things doth Nature change,
Enwrapping souls
In unfamiliar tunics of the flesh"
Because of reincarnation and the equality of all living beings, Empodocles felt meat-eating was comparable to cannibalism. "Will ye not cease from this great din of slaughter?" he once wrote. "Will ye not see, unthinking as ye are, how ye rend one another unbeknoweth?" With a vision of eternal souls endlessly clothed in new bodies, Empodocles compared flesh-eating to fathers unknowingly killing their sons, and children similarly killing their parents:
"The father lifteth for the stroke of death
His own dear son within a changed form...
Each slits the throat and in his halls prepares
A horrible repast. Thus too the son
Seizes the father, children the mother seize,
And...eat their own dear flesh."
Belief in the golden age and vegetarianism existed outside the Pythagorean tradition. The Cynic, Crates (4th century BC), wrote a poem linking nonviolence to vegetarianism, and expressing the hope for a vegetarian utopia. Dicaerchus' Life in Greece has been called the first cultural history of a people. Dicaerchus, who lived in the late 4th century BC, did not believe in reincarnation, the soul, or the afterlife. Nonetheless, he also wrote in favor of ethical vegetarianism, insisting it is morally wrong to cause unnecessary suffering to a being that can experience pain.
Vegetarianism, by itself, like opposing abortion or opposing capital punishment, is merely an ethic...not a religion. It may be linked to a religion, or numerous religions, but that does not automatically make it a religious doctrine.
George Bernard Shaw, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1925, was, like his hero the poet Shelley, an atheist, a socialist and a vegetarian. Peter Singer, author of Animal Liberation, is an atheist. There are religious traditions such as Buddhism and Jainism (and certain sects of Hinduism) where there is no recognition of a personal God, but these traditions do advocate vegetarianism. Compassion for other living creatures is an ethic, intimately tied throughout history to many of the world's great religions, but not a religion in and of itself.
religion: 3.thing that one is devoted to or is bound to do.
The Animal Rights movement is a religion.
tech2,
Compassion for animals, by itself, is merely an ethic--not a religion.
On the history of the vegetarian movement, Keith Akers in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983) writes that: "Many intellectuals, such as George Bernard Shaw, Henry Salt, Leo Tolstoy, and Mahatma Gandhi, became well-known advocates of a vegetarian diet."
Akers notes that "Animal rights groups are not, strictly speaking, a splinter group of the vegetarian movement at all--since their organizational origins were from the animal welfare organizations."
Traditional animal welfare organizations like the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) now encourage vegetarianism, the banning of fur, and the eventual end to all animal research, not just "cruel" animal research. The Humane Society now supports vegetarianism.
Apart from animal welfare organizations, we can't forget academia, either. Dr. Tom Regan, the foremost intellectual leader of the animal rights movement, says it was through reading Gandhi, during the Vietnam War, that he learned that the fork can also be a weapon of violence.
Animal rights, as a secular moral philosophy, may appear to be at odds with traditional religious thinking (e.g., human "dominion" over other animals), but this is equally true of democracy and representative government in place of the divine right of kings, the separation of church and state, the abolition of human slavery, the emancipation of women, birth control, the sexual revolution, lesbian and gay rights, and perhaps every kind of social progress since the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment.
Some of the greatest figures in human history have been in favor of ethical vegetarianism and animal rights. These include: Albert Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, Leo Tolstoy, Mohandas Gandhi, Alice Walker, George Bernard Shaw, Robert Browning, Percy Shelley, Voltaire, Thomas Hardy, Rachel Carson, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Victor Hugo, John Stuart Mill, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Pythagoras, Susan B. Anthony, Albert Schweitzer, Isaac Bashevis Singer, Gertrude Stein, Frederick Douglass, Francis Bacon, William Wordsworth, the Buddha, Mark Twain, and Henry David Thoreau.
Again, animal rights is A SECULAR TREND, but one which could use the inspiration, blessings and support of organized religion:
"Animals are God's creatures, not human property, nor utilities, nor resources, nor commodities, but precious beings in God's sight..." writes the Reverend Andrew Linzey. "Christians whose eyes are fixed on the awfulness of crucifixion are in a special position to understand the awfulness of innocent suffering. The Cross of Christ is God's absolute identification with the weak, the powerless, and the vulnerable, but most of all with unprotected, undefended, innocent suffering."
Reverend Mike Shaw in Canada points out that in the 19th century, it was the Christians who were leading the way with regards to animal welfare and rights, whereas today the people leading the campaign are mostly secular.
The founder and first secretary of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) was an Anglican priest, the Reverend Arthur Broome. The RSPCA was originally founded as a Christian society "entirely based on the Christian Faith, and on Christian Principles," and sponsoring sermons on humane education in churches in London.
The Society formed in 1824, and its first "Prospectus" spoke to the need to extend Christian charity and benevolence to the animals:
"Our country is distinguished by the number and variety of its benevolent institutions...all breathing the pure spirit of Christian charity...But shall we stop here? Is the moral circle perfect so long as any power of doing good remains? Or can the infliction of cruelty on any being which the Almighty has endued with feelings of pain and pleasure consist with genuine and true benevolence?"
This Prospectus was signed by many leading 19th century Christians, including William Wilberforce, Richard Martin, G.A. Hatch, J. Bonner, and Dr. Heslop.
On the other hand, today, the people leading the campaign for animal welfare and rights are mostly secular. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is 1.6 million strong--larger than any pro-life group--but try and discuss animal rights and vegetarianism with Christians, apart from religion (since we're not trying to convert them to another religion, we just want them to stop being cruel to animals), and all they can think of is the MOVE !
The fact that protection of all sentient life might not be a part of the present-day Judeo-Christian ethic does not make it invalid. Human slavery was once considered an acceptable part of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Professor Henry Bigelow observed: "There will come a time when the world will look back to modern vivisection in the name of science as they do now to burning at the stake in the name of religion."
"Will we be outlawing flyswatters as well?" you ask.
I assume you're being facetious. Perhaps thinking along these lines, Keith Akers addresses the moral question of killing insects in A Vegetarian Sourcebook: "What about insects? While there may be reason to kill insects, there is no reason to kill them for food. One distinguishes between the way meat animals are killed for food and the way insects are killed.
"Insects are killed only when they intrude upon human territory, posing a threat to the comfort, health, or well-being of humans. There is a huge difference between ridding oneself of intruders and going out of one's way to find and kill something which would otherwise be harmless."
According to Akers:
"These questions may have a certain fascination for philosophers, but most vegetarians are not bothered by them. For any vegetarian who is not a biological pacifist, there would not seem to be any particular difficulty in distinguishing ethically between insects and plants on the one hand, and animals and humans on the other."
Again, animal rights is A SECULAR TREND, but one which could use the inspiration, blessings and support of organized religion. Bruce Friedrich, a practicing Roman Catholic, has been reaching out to progressives as well as to the religious community. We should seriously reflect on what he has to say.
vasumurti,
Please understand I am not trying to be critical of you personally, but you seem to be talking around my questions.
1) Animal rights in the constitution:
You seem to argue some "natural" progression from white males, to all males and females, then, why not animals?
Well, you are not adding anything new to the discussion, you are merely repeating your opinion. Why not animals is the question, not the answer.
You seem to just skirt around the practical legal and social concequences of your general moral principle.
The entire topic can be summed up very easily:
Many people on this planet feel that animals are being mistreated. The question is how best to protect these often defenseless non-human creatures.
You seem to think that creating some wide reaching, global, concept (I think its just a new religion) about animal rights, and then, once this primary principle has been established legally, politically, sociologically, etc... then the details can be sorted out.
I think you are mistaken. The problem of the mistreatment of animals is an issue that can easily and effectively be handled at the community level, through a county animal control officer, and the necessary by-laws, that use fines to punish offenders. Private organizations like the SPCA and perhaps other animal lovers can preach their message of animal love to people. For istance, I lived in a community once where a woman would go around and put little info cards regarding animal heat stress, on peoples windshields during the hot summer months. She was polite and not judgemental of people, she just wanted to try and make people aware that they had a responsibility towards their pets.
As for everything else, you are correct in saying that larger environmental issues and economic issues encompass any remaining concerns you animal rights activists might have, as they are part of a larger picture.
Anyway - one last point.
If you give "animals" some sort of universal rights then you are going to be faced with the problem that insects, plants, reptiles, birds, mammals are all so different from each other, you will have to have an entirely different set of regulations to protect each major kind of animal.
The result will inevitablely result in a ranking of animals of which have more rights than others - for instance a domestic dog will no doubt have more rights than a fly.
Will we be outlawing fly swatters as well??
vasurmurti,
Please understand I am not trying to be critical of you personally, but you seem to be talking around my questions.
1) Animal rights in the constitution:
You seem to argue some "natural" progression from white males, to all males and females, then, why not animals?
Well, you are not adding anything new to the discussion, you are merely repeating your opinion. Why not animals is the question, not the answer.
You seem to just skirt around the practical legal and social concequences of your general moral principle.
The entire topic can be summed up very easily:
Many people on this planet feel that animals are being mistreated. The question is how best to protect these often defenseless non-human creatures.
You seem to think that creating some wide reaching, global, concept (I think its just a new religion) about animal rights, and then, once this primary principle has been established legally, politically, sociologically, etc... then the details can be sorted out.
I think you are mistaken. The problem of the mistreatment of animals is an issue that can easily and effectively be handled at the community level, through a county animal control officer, and the necessary by-laws, that use fines to punish offenders. Private organizations like the SPCA and perhaps other animal lovers can preach their message of animal love to people. For istance, I lived in a community once where a woman would go around and put little info cards regarding animal heat stress, on peoples windshields during the hot summer months. She was polite and not judgemental of people, she just wanted to try and make people aware that they had a responsibility towards their pets.
As for everything else, you are correct in saying that larger environmental issues and economic issues encompass any remaining concerns you animal rights activists might have, as they are part of a larger picture.
Anyway - one last point.
If you give "animals" some sort of universal rights then you are going to be faced with the problem that insects, plants, reptiles, birds, mammals are all so different from each other, you will have to have an entirely different set of regulations to protect each major kind of animal.
The result will inevitablely result in a ranking of animals of which have more rights than others - for instance a domestic dog will no doubt have more rights than a fly.
Will we be outlawing fly swatters as well??
tech2 brings up some interesting points to which I will attempt to respond.
1. Is the Constitution going to be changed from "We the people" to read "We the people and animals" ?
When the Constitution was written, the phrase "all men are created equal" referred only to white, male property owners. It has since been expanded to include women and minorities. Why should our concepts of equality, rights and justice end with the human species?
It was through the amendment process that we gave rights to those who were previously excluded: the 13th and 14th amendments passed after the Civil War abolished human slavery, and the 19th amendment gave women suffrage.
In 1989, Presbyterian minister and environmental activist Richard Cartwright Austin discussed proposals to amend the Constitution:
"It is time to affirm that all creatures within the boundaries of our nation deserve Constitutional recognition, and that rights extend beyond the human community to embrace all of natural life. This is the most radical of the proposals because it would give species, natural systems, and natural features Constitutional standing and rights of their own--independent of their contribution, or lack of contribution, to human welfare.
"To secure their rights within our legal system they would, of course, require human agents willing to argue their case, just as agents now represent the perceived interests of infants, the comatose, and others who cannot speak on their own behalf.
"Corporations, which are legal constructions and not natural beings, have standing in court to protect their interests now. This amendment would grant similar privileges to spotted owls threatened by timbering in the Pacific northwest to marine life in Chesapeake Bay suffering urban and agricultural pollution, and to the beauties of the Yosemite Valley hidden behind too many buildings and vehicles.
"A Constitutional Amendment to recognize the rights of a vast new constituency -- all God's creatures -- will not succeed without broad popular support. Animals ask us for considerate treatment and the earth cries for loving care."
2. If humans don't own animals, then who does? Are they free to do whatever they want? Go wherever they want?
Harming or killing other animals, or even "owning" other animals as property should be as unthinkable to us as "owning" other human beings as property. I support In Defense of Animals' "They Are not Our Property, We Are not Their Owners" campaign, which has successfully gotten several cities across the United States to change their legal language regarding companion animals to refer to humans as "guardians" rather than "owners."
Animals would be returned to the wild, outside of human civilization, where they would be, as you say, "free to do whatever they want or go wherever they want."
4. What about domestic animals?
Domestic animals, coexisting with humans would have the same kind of rights we now give to children or the mentally handicapped.
Predators and prey all exist in the wild. Through civilization and technology, we humans have effectively removed ourselves from the wild. In this sense, animal rights -- like the problem of insects encroaching upon human territory, or rattlesnakes and coyotes in suburban sprawl -- is partly an environmental ethics issue.
In establishing agriculture, cities, and civilization, we humans have effectively removed ourselves from nature. Our relationship with other species--wild and domesticated--is, in this sense, partly an environmental ethics issue.
6. Are herbicides and insecticides to be outlawed?
I'd like to see a return to organic farming. In 1989, concern over the use of the pesticide Alar on apples caused many Americans to consider organic produce. We produce pesticides at a rate some 13,000 times faster than we did in the 1950s. Our environment is being flooded by pesticide compounds.
Poisons used to kill insects accumulate on crops, in the soil and in greater concentration in the tissues of living creatures higher on the food chain. The EPA's Pesticide Monitoring Journal reports that "Foods of animal origin (are) the major source of pesticide residues in the diet."
In his Pulitzer Prize nominated book, How to Survive in America the Poisoned, pesticide authority Lewis Regenstein writes: "Meat contains approximately 14 times more pesticides than do plant foods...Thus, by eating foods of animal origin, one ingests greatly concentrated amounts of hazardous chemicals."
A 1976 study by the EPA found the breast milk of mothers who eat animal flesh to be 50 to 100 times more contaminated by pesticide residues than the milk of vegetarian mothers.
Organic farming and Integrated Pest Management (IPM) are getting more attention today. These utilize natural insect controls, such as predatory insects, weather, crop rotation, pest-resistant varieties, soil tillage, and other environmentally safe practices.
A 1979 Department of Agriculture task force of scientists and economists came to "...positive conclusions on the importance of organic farming and its potential contributions to agriculture and society." Until the end of the Second World War, American farmers produced bountiful harvests without relying on pesticides. There is no reason why America cannot do so again.
tech2 says, "You can't legislate morality."
First: is the crime victimless? I'm sympathetic, for example, to the feminist argument of sociological studies documenting the negative effects of pornography, but I can provide equally compelling studies on the negative effects of legalized gambling. Both Prohibition and the current war on drugs have failed.
If the crime is victimless, I agree it may be futile to try and legislate it. But with animal rights, we're talking about the oppression, pain and suffering of beings like ourselves--it's comparable to human slavery or the Nazi Holocaust. And the loss of life caused by the holocaust of the animal kingdom is far greater than the loss of life caused by abortion. There are 50 million abortions worldwide each year, but 50 BILLION animals are killed worldwide each year (and this figure does not include aquatic life).
This might surprise you, but the earliest animal rights legislation was enacted not by "Nazis," but by Buddhists. Although it is an agnostic moral philosophy, Buddhism teaches a consistent ethic of reverence for all life. No wars have ever been waged in the name of Buddhism. Similarly, the act of abortion is explicitly condemned in the Buddhist canonical scriptures.
Sir Edwin Arnold's poetic biography on Siddhartha Gautama, The Light of Asia, caused quite a controversy in Victorian England: centuries before Jesus, an earlier teacher lived "the Christ life."
The ethical teachings of the Buddha are quite similar to those found in the Gospel of Jesus: One must never be proud, nor harbor anger against anyone. He who humbles himself shall be exalted, while the one who exalts himself shall be degraded. Harsh language must never be used against anyone.
Avoid lust, anger and greed. One should not scrutinize the mote in a neighbor's eye without first noticing the beam in one's own. One must "turn the other cheek" if attacked or abused. One's own possessions must be shared with the less fortunate. If a man obtained the whole world and its riches, he still would not be satisfied, nor would this save him.
In 261 BC, the Indian emperor Ashoka witnessed firsthand the innumerable casualties he caused during one of his many military campaigns. His heart was filled with grief. He converted to Buddhism. 19th century scholar and writer H.G. Wells considered Ashoka's conversion to Buddhism one of the most significant events in world history.
Ashoka, formerly a bloody and ruthless emperor, became a remarkably kind and gentle leader. Ashoka established some of the first animal rights laws. He stopped the royal hunt, the sacrifice of animals in his capital city, the killing of animals for food in the royal kitchens, and gave up the eating of meat. Ashoka made it illegal to kill many species of animals, such as parrots, ducks, geese, bats, turtles, squirrels, monkeys and rhinos.
He forbade the killing of pregnant animals, or animals that were nursing their young. He declared certain days to be "non-killing days," on which fish could not be caught, nor any other animals killed. He established wells and watering holes, places of rest and hospitals for humans and animals alike.
Ashoka educated his people to have compassion for animals, and to refrain from killing or harming them. He sent missionaries to all the neighboring kingdoms to teach mercy, compassion and nonviolence. Through Ashoka's patronage, Buddhism was spread all over the Indian subcontinent.
Buddhism would eventually reach the rest of Asia. In 502 AD, a Chinese prince named Hsaio-Yen became the first emperor of the Liang dynasty. His name as emperor was Wu-Ti, and he converted to Buddhism. In 511, Wu-Ti stopped the use of meat in the palace kitchens. In 517 he forbade the use of living beings in religious sacrifices. He commanded that people should make offerings of fruits and vegetables, or else make sacrificial animals out of dough.
In 675, another Buddhist ruler, the emperor Temmu in Japan, forbade the eating of various animals, including cattle, horses, dogs and monkeys. His niece, the empress Jito, ruled from 686 to 697, and encouraged "hojo," or the release of captive animals. She established refuges where animals could not be hunted, both in the capital and out in the provinces.
Today, there are an estimated 300 to 600 million Buddhists worldwide.
The myth that Adolf Hitler was a "vegetarian" persists. According to Carol Orsag, in Irving Wallace and David Wallechinsky's The People's Almanac (1975), Hitler "became vegetarian because of stomach problems" rather than out of compassion for animals, and "was criticized for eating pig's knuckles."
In a 1996 article, "Nazis and Animals: Debunking the Myths," Roberta Kalechofsky of Jews for Animal Rights states that Hitler "had a special fondness for sausages and caviar, and sometimes ham," as well as "liver dumplings." Kalechofsky states further that the Nazis experimented on animals as well as humans in the concentration camps:
"The evidence of Nazi experiments on animals is overwhelming. In The Dark Face of Science, author John Vyvyan summed it up correctly: 'The experiments made on prisoners were many and diverse, but they had one thing in common: all were in continuation of, or complementary to, experiments on animals. In every instance, this antecedent scientific literature is mentioned in the evidence, and at Buchenwald and Auschwitz concentration camps, human and animal experiments were carried out simultaneously as parts of a single programme.'"
History reveals to us the truth about the Nazis:
"The beast of prey is the highest form of active life," wrote Nazi philosopher Oswald Spengler in 1931. "It represents a mode of living which requires the extreme degree of the necessity of fighting, conquering, annihilating, self-assertion. The human race ranks highly because it belongs to the class of beasts of prey. Therefore we find in man the tactics of life proper to a bold, cunning beast of prey. He lives engaged in aggression, killing, annihilation. He wants to be master in as much as he exists."
Hitler's so-called "vegetarianism" did not prevent Isaac Bashevis Singer from comparing humanity's mass killing of 50 billion animals every year to the Nazi Holocaust. In 1987 he wrote, "This is my protest against the conduct of the world. To be a vegetarian is to disagree—to disagree with the course of things today. Nuclear power, starvation, cruelty—we must make a statement against these things. Vegetarianism is my statement. And I think it's a strong one."
Isaac Bashevis Singer has also expressed the view that unnecessary violence against animals by human beings will only lead to further violence in human society: "I personally believe that as long as human beings will go on shedding the blood of animals, there will never be any peace. There is only one little step from killing animals to creating gas chambers a' la Hitler and concentration camps a' la Stalin—all such deeds are done in the name of 'social justice.' There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is."
Those of us on the Left, who care about human rights, social justice, the environment, etc. should seriously consider Bruce's words on the relevance of animal rights and vegetarianism to these issues.
If animal rights activists really want a society in which animals have similar rights to humans, they are going to have to start thinking about things like this:
1) is the constitution going to be changed to read "We the people and the animals......."? If not then you are going to have to define what rights both humans and animals share, and which they do not. I argue that the inevitable result of such a legal dilemna would be that humans would have more rights than animals, making it legal that animals have an inferior legal status to humans.
2) If humans don't own animals then who does? Are they free to do what ever they want? Go where they want? Eat what they want? What do you do with misbehaving animals (like a cougar that kills a child, or a tiger that eats a villager)
4) what about domestic animals as opposed to wild animals? Domestic animals could not exist without owners. Do you intent to legislate morality? Training of potential animal owners, laws, rules, regulations, a bureaucracy?
5) Wild animals - will breed to numbers based on available food supply. If animals have rights similar to humans, there will be an inevitable confrontation regarding food supply.
6) Are herbicides and insecticides to be outlawed?
Ownership of domesticated animals by humans, with the humans having a free hand, with limited responsibilities to public institutions on the county by-law level and maybe some at the state level is practical.
As for wild animals, some state and federal regulations allowing animals to exist at acceptable population levels and not let humans totally dominate all landscapes is also practical.
But these grand and sweeping moral imperatives, about animal slavery etc... I don't know...
You cannot legislate morality. It just does not work.
If you are not willing to legislate the heck out of the world and create some enormous bureacracy, then you only hope is for re-education and re-programming through the school system.
This route is not different from the route taken by every power hungry group, whether monarchy, religious authority, or fascist government in human history.
You cannot legislate morality. It does not work.
I strongly encourage you to visit Eco-Eating at http://www.brook.com/veg which has various sections (e.g., global warming, water, health, economics, myths, etc.), tons of info, lots of links, and can be translated into several languages.
I commend Bruce for posting his article on CommonDreams.org. The sign of a true progressive, however, is one who is willing to cross party lines and reach out across the political (as well as ideological and theological) spectrum in order to further the cause.
John Stuart Mill wrote: "The reasons for legal intervention in favor of children apply not less strongly to the case of those unfortunate slaves--the animals."
Henry Bergh, founder of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA), successfully prosecuted a woman for child abuse in 1873, at a time when children had no legal protection under the then currently existing animal protection statutes. This case started the child-saving crusade around the world.
While it is known that the feminist movement originally opposed abortion as "child-murder" (Susan B. Anthony's words) and as a form of violence that women are forced to turn to in a patriarchal society, a society that shows virtually no concern or respect for new mothers, it is generally not known that many of the early American feminists—including Lucy Stone, Amelia Bloomer, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton—were connected with the 19th century animal welfare movement. Together, they would meet with anti-slavery editor Horace Greeley to toast "Women's Rights and Vegetarianism."
Many of the early American feminists thus saw animal rights as the logical next step in social progress after women's rights and civil rights. Count Leo Tolstoy similarly described ethical vegetarianism as social progress:
"And there are ideas of the future, of which some are already approaching realization and are obliging people to change their way of life and to struggle against the former ways: such ideas in our world as those of freeing the laborers, of giving equality to women, of ceasing to use flesh-food, and so on."
The case for animal rights and vegetarianism should be readily understandable to the millions of Americans opposed to abortion on demand. "Although I may disagree with some of its underlying principles," writes pro-life activist Karen Swallow Prior, "there is much for me, an anti-abortion activist, to respect in the animal rights movement. Animal rights activists, like me, have risked personal safety and reputation for the sake of other living beings. Animal rights activists, like me, are viewed by many in the mainstream as fanatical wackos, ironically exhorted by irritated passerby to 'Get a Life!'
"Animal rights activists, like me, place a higher value on life than on personal comfort and convenience, and in balancing the sometimes competing interests of rights and responsibilities, choose to err on the side of compassion and nonviolence."
Both the anti-abortion and animal rights movements consider their cause a form of social progress, like the abolition of human slavery or the emancipation of women. Leaders in both movements have even compared themselves to the abolitionists who sought to end human slavery.
Dr. J.C. Willke, former head of National Right to Life, entitled a book Abortion and Slavery. Like abortion opponents drawing a parallel between the Dred Scott decision and Roe v. Wade, Dr. Tom Regan also draws a parallel between human and animal slavery in The Case for Animal Rights:
"The very notion that farm animals should continue to be viewed as legal property must be challenged. To view them in this way implies that we cannot make sense of viewing them as legal persons. But the history of the law shows only too well, and too painfully, how arbitrary the law can be on this crucial matter. Those humans who were slaves were not recognized as legal persons in pre-Civil War America.
"There is no reason to assume that because animals are not presently accorded this status that they cannot intelligibly be viewed in this way or that they should not be. If our predecessors had made this same assumption in the case of human slaves, the legal status of these human beings would have remained unchanged."
Both movements see themselves extending human rights to an excluded class of beings. Both movements claim to be speaking on behalf of a class of beings unable to defend themselves from oppression. Both movements compare the mass destruction of, in one case the human unborn, and in the other case, the mass killing of animals, to the Nazi Holocaust.
Both movements have components that engage in nonviolent civil disobedience and both have their militant factions: Operation Rescue and the Animal Liberation Front. Both have picketed the homes of physicians who either experiment upon animals or perform abortions. The controversial use of human fetal tissue and embryonic stem cells for medical research brings these two causes even closer together.
Both movements are usually depicted in the popular news media as extremists, fanatics, terrorists, etc. who violate the law. But both movements also have their intelligentsia: moral philosophers, physicians, clergymen, legal counsel, etc.
Feminist writer Carol J. Adams notes the parallels between the two movements: "A woman attempts to enter a building. Others, massed outside, try to thwart her attempt. They shout at her, physically block her way, frantically call her names, pleading with her to respect life. Is she buying a fur coat or getting an abortion?"
The Fur Information Council of America asks: "If fashion isn't about freedom of choice, what is? Personal choice is not just a fur industry issue. It's everybody's issue." Like the abortion debate, lines are drawn. "Freedom of choice" vs. taking an innocent life. "Personal lifestyle" vs. violating another's rights.
Animal rights activists have even proven themselves to be "anti-choice" depending upon the issue. A letter in The Animals' Voice Magazine, for example, states: "Exit polls in Aspen, Colorado, after the failed 1989 fur ban was voted on, found that most people were against fur but wanted people to have a choice to wear it. Instead of giving in, we should take the offensive and state in no uncertain terms that to abuse and kill animals is wrong, period! There is no choice because another being had to suffer to produce that item...an eventual ban on fur would be impossible if we tell people that they have some sort of 'choice' to kill...remember, no one has the 'right to choose' death over life for another being."
Similarly, a letter in Veg-News reads: "I did have some concerns about (the) Veg Psych column which asserted that we must respect a non-vegan's 'right to choose' her/his food. While I would never advocate intolerance (quite the opposite actually), arguing that we have a 'right to choose' when it comes to eating meat, eggs, and dairy is akin to saying we have a 'right to choose' to beat dogs, harass wildlife, and torture cats. Each is a clear example of animal cruelty, whether we're the perpetrators ourselves, or the ones who pay others to commit the violence on our behalf. Clearly, we have the ability to choose to cause animal abuse, but that doesn't translate into a right to make that choice."
Recognizing the rights of another class of beings, of course, limits our freedoms and our choices, and requires a change in our personal lifestyle. The abolition of (human) slavery is a good example of this. Both movements, however, appear to be imposing their own personal moral convictions upon the rest of our secular society.
Animal rights activists point out the health hazards associated with meat, eggs and dairy products, while anti-abortion activists try to educate the public about the link between abortion and breast cancer. The threat of "overpopulation" is frequently used to justify abortion as birth control. On a vegetarian diet, however, the world could easily support a population several times its present size. The world's cattle alone consume enough to feed 8.7 billion humans.
Both movements make use of similar political tactics, such as economic boycotting. Both movements make use of graphic photos or videos of abortion victims or tortured animals. Both movements speak of respecting life and of compassion. Both movements cite studies that unnecessary violence towards an oppressed class of beings leads to worse forms of violence in human society—this is known as the "slippery slope." The term was coined by Malcolm Muggeridge, a pro-life vegetarian.
Anti-abortion activists, for example, consider abortion the ultimate form of child abuse, and claim that since abortion was legalized, child abuse rates have risen dramatically. Acceptance of abortion, they argue, leads to a devaluation of human life, and paves the way towards acceptance of infanticide and euthanasia. Animal rights activists, likewise, compare the lives of animals to those of young human children, and insist that a lack of respect for the rights of animals brutalizes humans into insensitivity towards one another.
In his Pulitzer Prize nominated book, Diet for a New America, for example, author John Robbins writes of a Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, which found that over 87 percent of a group of violent criminals had, as children, burned, hanged or stabbed domestic animals. An American study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals. A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than are their peers, and four times more likely to be involved in acts against property.
Pro-lifers have reason to be especially concerned about violence towards animals. Animals are sentient beings possessing many mental capacities comparable to those of young human children. If we fail to see them as part of our moral community, how will we ever embrace humans in their most primitive stages of development? Anti-abortionists look in horror as an entire class of humans are systematically stripped of their rights, executed, and even used as tools for medical research. Yet this is what we humans have been doing to animals for millennia.
Mostly religious in nature, the anti-abortion movement will need to become completely secular, as it attempts to convince the courts, the legislatures, philosophers, ethicists and universities that human zygotes and embryos should be regarded as legal persons.
Conversely, the animal rights movement is secular and nonsectarian, but—like the civil rights movement—will need the inspiration, blessings and support of organized religion to help end injustices towards animals. The Reverend Marc Wessels, Executive Director of the International Network for Religion and Animals (INRA), made this observation on Earth Day, 1990:
"It is a fact that no significant social reform has yet taken place in this country without the voice of the religious community being heard. The endeavors of the abolition of slavery; the women's suffrage movement; the emergence of the pacifist tradition during World War I; the struggle to support civil rights, labor unions and migrant farm workers; and the anti-nuclear and peace movements have all succeeded in part because of the power and support of organized religion. Such authority and energy is required by individual Christians and the institutional church today if the liberation of animals is to become a reality."
Ingrid Newkirk, Executive Director of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, admitted in an interview with Dennis Prager, that the animal rights movement is divided on the issue of abortion. Where should an animal rights activist stand with regards to abortion? Mohandas Gandhi, India's great apostle of nonviolence, once wrote, "It seems to me clear as daylight that abortion would be a crime."
C.S. Lewis and other Christians have acknowledged that denying rights to animals merely because they do not exhibit the same level of rational thought most humans exhibit upon reaching full development means denying rights to the mentally handicapped, the senile, and many other classes of humans as well. Herein lies the basis for better understanding and cooperation between two movements seeking liberty and justice for all.
theoryhead brings up the point that veg*ism is a cultural practice not shared by everyone...only 31 percent of India is veg*n. 31 percent is still a significant number! As I pointed out in correspondence with Poorva Joshipura of PETA several years ago: in India being veg*n is considered a virtue, whereas in the West it is an oddity.
What if 31 percent of all Americans were veg*n? Animal issues would be given the same kind of serious discussion and debate we now give to issues like abortion and capital punishment. An editorial in the now defunct Animals' Agenda several years ago noted the debate raging over embryonic stem cell research, whereas animal research goes on unquestioned.
theoryhead makes a distinction between being ethical by choice versus by social and cultural conditioning, and wonders if veg*ns can truly claim to be "enlightened". This is a sound point. By the same logic, we Americans cannot claim to be superior to other parts of the world for having abolished human slavery, emancipated women, etc. These are social and cultural norms, fought for by previous generations, which we now take for granted. How many of us voluntarily choose not to own slaves? Our lack of a freedom of choice whether or not to own slaves is a limitation placed on us by previous generations. Is our repugnance towards human slavery merely social and cultural conditioning, or is it the result of moral progress?
At any rate, as I've stated previously, the record of organized religion with regards to animals IS mixed--stronger in some religions than in others. I agree that the Hindu religious tradition is somewhat inconsistent when it comes to veg*ism and animal rights, and that the non-theistic traditions of Buddhism and Jainism might be more consistent with the secular moral philosophy of animal liberation.
Brother Wayne Teasdale, a Benedictine monk who passed away a few years ago, wrote in 1994: "One key answer to a culture's preoccupation with violence is to teach, insist on, and *live* the value of nonviolence. It can be done successfully, and it has been done for more than 2,500 years by Jains and Buddhists.
"Neither Jainism nor Buddhism has ever supported war or personal violence; this nonviolence extends to all sentient beings. Christianity can learn something valuable from these traditions. This tradition on nonviolence has been incarnated in the lives of Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Fourteenth Dalai Lama with significant results..."
According to Teasdale: "...it is necessary to elevate nonviolence to a noble place in our civilization of loving-loving compassion because nonviolence as 'ahimsa' in the Hindu tradition, a tradition that seems to possess the most advanced understanding of nonviolence, IS love! Love is the goal and ultimate nature of nonviolence as an inner disposition and commitment of the heart. It is the fulfillment of love and compassion in the social sphere, that is, in the normal course of relations among people in the matrix of society."
theoryhead says that ethics are the weakest link in animal issues. theoryhead dismisses the concept of "rights" as a philosophical construct. I respect theoryhead for being consistent in this regard, by not applying the concept of rights to either animals OR humans.
Peter Singer, author of Animal Liberation, is a utilitarian. Utilitarians don't believe in rights. Singer does not argue for animals having actual "rights" in Animal Liberation, rather, he argues that animals have interests (as sentient beings) in not being harmed, and that these interests are not being taken into consideration--and this is discrimination, comparable to racism or sexism. In this case, we call it specieism.
(Singer did not coin the term "specieism," it was coined by psychology professor Richard Ryder in his 1970 book, Victims of Science, which attacked vivisection. Because Singer is a utilitarian and utilitarians don't believe in rights, it would thus be incorrect to call Singer "the father of the animal *rights* movement." As my friend Al, a Catholic vegetarian in Michigan has also pointed out, Singer merely popularized [and gave a philosophical basis to] an already existing cause.)
theoryhead suggests animals are not 'like us.' Jeremy Bentham argued briefly and succinctly: "a full-grown horse or dog is beyond comparison a more rational, as well as more conversable animal, than an infant of a day, or a week, or even a month old. But suppose the case were otherwise, what would it avail? The question is not, Can they reason? nor Can they talk? but, Can they SUFFER?!"
Singer argues that all the attempts to prove human superiority over other animals fail to recognize that when it comes to suffering, the animals are our equals.
In Animal Liberation, Singer dismisses the closet Cartesians by writing: "We also know that the nervous systems of other animals were not artificially constructed--as a robot might be artificially constructed--to mimic the pain behavior of humans. The nervous systems of animals evolved as our own did, and in fact the evolutionary history of human beings and other animals, especially mammals, did not diverge until the central features of our nervous systems were already in existence. A capacity to feel pain obviously enhances a species' prospects of survival, since it causes members of the species to avoid sources of injury."
Yet theoryhead says attributing pain to animals is "emotive." I respect theoryhead's desire to keep the debate on animals as dispassionate as possible. There is a place for emotions, even in rational, secular debate. Singer himself writes in his preface to Animal Liberation:
"...there are passages that will arouse some emotions. These will, I hope, be emotions of anger and outrage...When there are unpleasant things to be described it would be dishonest to try to describe them in some neutral way that hid their real unpleasantness. You cannot write objectively about the experiments of the Nazi concentration camp 'doctors' on those they considered 'subhuman' without stirring emotions; and the same is true of a description of some of the experiments performed today on nonhumans in laboratories...The ultimate justification for opposition to both these kinds of experiments, though, is not emotional. It is an appeal to basic moral principles which we all accept...demanded by reason, not emotion."
Not appealing to the "emotive"? In secular ethical debate, it is necessary to distinguish between ethics and aesthetics. Many 19th century Americans may have found human slavery aesthetically repulsive, but did this automatically make the practice immoral? Peter Singer similarly observes in Animal Liberation:
"Killing an animal is in itself a troubling act. It has been said that if we all had to kill our own meat we would all be vegetarians. There may be exceptions to that general rule, but it is true that most people prefer not to inquire into the killing of the animals they eat.
"Very few people ever visit a slaughterhouse; and films of slaughterhouse operations are rarely shown on television...Yet those who, by their purchases, require animals to be killed have no right to be shielded from this or any other aspect of the production of the meat they buy.
"If it is distasteful for humans to think about, what can it be like for the animals to experience it?"
Some people are squeamish about killing animals; others enjoy hunting. Some people are uncomfortable with oral sex, or watching a heart surgeon perform open-heart surgery. There are soldiers who went to Vietnam, killed other human beings, returned home, and now lead perfectly normal lives. Then there are people who arranged, procured, or committed abortions, and later came to regret their decision. We have to distinguish between ethics and aesthetics.
Part of Abraham Lincoln's response to Stephen Douglas: "...you still cannot repeal human nature. It will still be the abundance of man's heart, that slavery...is wrong," may be based more on aesthetics than on actual ethical principles. Socialist writer Christopher Hitchens simultaneously appealed to and rejected such aesthetics when he wrote his left-liberal critique of "pro-choice" philosophy in The Nation in 1989:
"But anyone who has ever seen a sonogram or has spent even an hour with a textbook on embryology knows that emotions are not the deciding factor. In order to terminate a pregnancy, you have to still a heartbeat, switch off a developing brain, and whatever the method, break some bones and rupture some organs."
Again, there is a place for the "emotive," even in rational, secular debate.
Finally, I agree with theoryhead that we are not natural herbivores. The human body can't break down cellulose, the principle component of plant foods, though it does serve a purpose as dietary fiber. This is the reason we can't graze or live on grass. Anatomically, we resemble the other primates (frugivores), whose diet is mostly vegetarian. We're meant to live predominately, if not entirely, upon plant foods. Only vitamin B-12 cannot be obtained from plant foods. Predators are found in nature, but so are cannibalism and rape. Killing other animals for food, in this sense, really is an ethical issue, not a "dietary" issue.
Keith Akers writes in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983): "There is no question that lacto-ovo vegetarians can easily obtain enough vitamin B-12; dairy products and eggs are generous suppliers of vitamin B-12. The controversy pertains only to those vegetarians who live on plant foods and do not eat any animal foods at all--the 'total vegetarians' or 'vegans.'...The evidence shows, however, that there are numerous sources of vitamin B-12 other than animal foods, and that vitamin B-12 is not a particularly difficult vitamin to get. In short, the Great Vitamin B-12 Controversy, like the protein controversy, is largely generated by lack of information concerning already available research data.
"Only incredibly small quantities of vitamin B-12 are thought to be needed in the diet. According to the National Research Council, 3 micrograms daily will meet the body's requirements. but Victor Herbert, a noted authority on the subject, puts the requirement at 0.1 micrograms, making even the National Research Council's microscopic figure 30 times in excess of the actual need."
John Robbins, author of Diet for a New America (1987), says that vitamin B-12 is found naturally in the environment around us; on the dirt on a carrot pulled out of the ground, in rainwater, etc., but we live in a sanitized society, removed from nature. Keith Akers similarly observes:
"Vitamin B-12 has been found in rainwater and in many plant foods. In small quantities, Vitamin B-12 has been found either in or on various foods such as the roots and stems of tomatos, cabbage, celery, kale, broccoli, leeks, and the leaves of kohlrabi. An ounce of the roots of leeks, beets, and other vegetables will provide 0.1 to 0.3 micrograms of B-12, which is more than a day's requirement.
"There are other plant foods which provide 'massive' quantities of vitamin B-12--'massive,' that is, in relation to human requirements for the vitamin. These include nutritional yeast, tempeh, seaweed, algae, kelp, and fermented soy sauces. The human liver can store vitamin B-12 for years, so once it is ingested from one of these sources, one can go for long periods of time without having to worry about a source of B-12."
The ethical, environmental, and even nutritional arguments are compelling enough to encourage millions of Americans to reduce, if not eliminate entirely, their consumption of animal products.
theoryhead,
I would like to respond to some of the points that you made. On your first point, I would be willing to concede that using "cultural enlightenment" as an argument for a vegan diet adds little to a meaningful discussion.
On your second point, I would disagree that there is no basis for affording "rights" to cows or other animals. You are correct that rights are human constructs without objective existence. However, the concept of rights is used to discuss ethical obligations owed to another that are more fundamental and profound than other ethical obligations. I believe that that animal suffering does fall within the sphere of ethical consideration and that this ethical imperative rises to the level of a "right."
The basis for extending ethical considerations to animals is not based on their cognitive or intellectual capacities but is based on their capacity to suffer. Using your reasoning, the mentally or intellectually infirm would not be extended human rights because of deficient cognition. This is clearly absurd. We extend rights to humans, regardless of their cogitative levels, when that person has the capacity to suffer. Without turning to rather extensive neurological and physiological research that seems to indicate that not only do animals have similarly functioning nervous systems to humans but that these nervous systems seem to create actual experiences fundamentally similar to human experiences, I will turn instead to our common experience with animals such as dogs and cats. Anyone who has spent any significant time with a dog or cat knows that these animals feel and experience life in manner very similar to our own. It would be strange that animals who could not feel could imitate the experience of feeling so well. Therefore, if animals can suffer like humans, and because the wrongness of causing needless suffering forms the basis of nearly all ethical consideration, I would conclude that causing animal suffering for the purpose of eating their flesh is unethical and that animals should be endowed with the right to be free from this type of suffering.
On your third point, I would agree that the environmental case for a vegan diet is compelling. But I would also add that if one chooses to adhere to such a subjective basis for persisting in a harmful behavior despite the clear evidence of its harms to others, I would assert that beyond merely acting unethically (e.g. under a Kantian formula or others) such a person is nearly sociopathic. The only reason that such behavior is permitted is because any one person's one meal contributes to such a small amount of environmental impact. However, while one's inability to see their piece of such collective destruction may free one from sociopathy, it does not lessen the moral impact of such a decision.
Finally, on your fourth point, I agree that a discussion of health is more factually than logically grounded, so such a forum is inappropriate for a thorough discussion. However, I do believe that a real and complete reading of the science does indicate that the addition of any amount of animal protein to one's diet is unhealthful. And I also disagree with the biological statement that humans are not true herbivores. This too I believe is shown in scientific research.
I agree with you that those who approach veganism from a point of moral superiority do err. I do believe that to follow a vegan lifestyle does inevitably lead one to make more ethical decisions related to contributing to needless suffering. However, vegan or not, no one can claim to lead a life that does not contribute to suffering or evil in some way. For that reason, neither vegans or anyone should approach a discussion from a position of moral arrogance. That, however, does not negate the fact that we all should strive to make choices that are more ethical rather than less, reduce suffering rather than contribute to it, and advance rather than thwart justice. No one, most certainly not myself, is perfect in this regard, but every single choice, no matter how small, that advances these goals is an ethical victory.
As is often the case with discussion of this type, the discourse here has generated a lot more heat than light. Although some of the arguments made for reducing, if not eliminating, the amount of meat in a person's diet seem reasonable, others are pretty faulty. I liked the categories that Bobus used above so I will respond to the arguments offered here by way of his framework.
Here are my responses to the arguments offered for veganism/vegetarianism. For sake of brevity, I use the term "vegan" to refer to both:
1. Cultural: I have observed that many people, Bobus included, look to the Indians for inspiration for veganism. Indeed, I had a wonderful dish of Aloo Palak last night that was a testament to the wonders of a well-prepared, thoughtfully-spiced vegetarian Indian dish. There are just two problems with the claim that the majority of Indians are vegetarians and, implicitly, are more "enlightened" regarding animal cruelty. The first problem is that the claim, prima facie, is false. Although many Indians do not generally eat cows (though Muslims do), others do eat lamb, goat, and all manner of seafood. This is seen in a poll published in the Hindu Times that found 31% of Indians are vegetarian, not the "majority" by any stretch:
http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/14/stories/2006081403771200.htm
The second claim, which Bobus does not make but I have heard many times, is that cultures that have a reduced reliance on animals in their diet are in some ways more "ethical" or "enlightened." To this there are two easy responses. First, there should be some sort of delineation made between dietary practices that are based in religious belief, simple necessity, or ethical choice. The main point here is to show that the first two positions are not the same as the third, which is an actual choice, a decision that is based on rational reflection and grounded in argument. People who do not have access to animals or who refrain from eating them on religious or cultural (i.e. traditional) grounds are not the same as those who choose vegetarianism and provide arguments for their decisions. Second, simply because a culture has a particular stance on a practice that conforms to ones preferences does not mean that culture is in some ways "superior" or more "enlightened." To make this claim, a person is engaging in narcissistic projection, not argumentation. This leads rather neatly to the next argument...
2. Ethics: This has always been the weakest claim for veganism, the notion that animals have rights. The main problem here is that the whole notion of rights is itself an artificial, historical construction. For example, humans do not have "rights" so much as some humans claim they have rights. Although we may all agree to assume that these rights exist and should be protected, that does not mean that they exist independent of us as rocks and lakes and trees do. As such, one needs to provide a ground for these purported rights outside of simply asserting them.
Such grounds, in the case of animal rights, generally consist of two types. The first is that animals are similar to human beings and, as such, should be afforded the same rights. Setting aside what I consider a distasteful comparison made between the Civil Rights movement and the animal rights movement, there are problems with this position. First, one could posit the numerous ways that animals are not like us. Indeed, I am more inclined to believe that the differences in cognition between humans and other animals outside of the great apes, for example, are qualitative, not quantitative. As such, I am hardly persuaded by an appeal made by a vegan that humans and cows are fundamentally similar. Second, the claim that since animals feel pain killing them is "inhumane" is a semantic issue and relies on an emotivist ethics. What constitutes "humane" is open to argument, despite what the author of the article may claim. While many people may agree that treating animals a particular way is "humane," this simply means that there is conditional intersubjective agreement on the term, not that it has taken on the character of objective truth. Regarding the emotivist claim that treating animals in a particular way is "ethical," this is merely dressing up a subjective preference. Vegans may not like the way certain animals are treated, and may feel strong emotions regarding the subject, but that does not in any way mean that their preference is objectively superior or more ethical; it is not some sort of transcendental, universal validity claim. The author of the article, among others, is offering this emotivist ethics.
The second ground offered for animal rights is even weaker than the first as it consists of an appeal to authority. Notice in vasumurti's missives the number of references that he gives to particular figures that are offered as authoritative. Whether people who many might consider praiseworthy champion animal rights is not relevant to whether or not the rights should actually be championed, just as it is not reasonable to oppose a position simply because someone who one considers nefarious supports it.
3. Environmental: In my estimation, this is, and will likely always be, the strongest argument for restricting meat in one's diet. The environmental argument is based in empirical evidence regarding resources and is relatively easy to defend. I, personally, am the most persuaded by it given the substance of the position and strongly believe that vegans are best served by using it as the central plank of their position, though my support of the position is based on a notion of egalitarianism that I smuggle in. Someone who does not care about long-term environmental effects of the meat industry, could not care a whit about others and only knows that she likes meat may not be much persuaded by the environmental argument. She could claim, a la Hume, that her subjective preferences trump everything else and the vegan would have no counterargument in his arsenal to convince her otherwise.
4. Health: This seems to me a contested position, something I think Bobus deals with thoughtfully. Although I think it is reasonable to assert that a diet that is high in meat is not very healthy, I have yet to see compelling evidence that a vegan diet is more healthy than a mixed diet, and I have read the literature so please do not offer links. The point is that we are not natural herbivores so the notion that a vegan diet is "best" rests on pretty shaky biological grounds.
In closing, I would hope that individuals would more reasonably consider their arguments for or against veganism and would jettison the notion that making the decision not to eat animals is in some sense a superior ethical stance. It isn't, and making the claim often serves to make others consider those who make it shallow and self-righteous, not unlike certain people who have undergone a religious "awakening" who want to "save" all their friends and loved ones.
What comes out of our mouths is far more important than what we put into them. Meat eaters are not better or worse than vegetarians. Some members of both groups are painfully self-righteous and narrow minded.
Extreme unbridled greed, political corruption, war, and poverty are the main issues that we should all be attacking together! All of those things cause extreme, needless misery in millions of human beings and animals.
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"The illusion that we are separate from one another is an optical delusion of our consciousness." Albert Einstein
bobus, your some of your arguments are factually incorrect particularly 3. (proper examination of indigenous diets will reveal that they weren't all meat-based and that some of those eg eskimos' were and are still plain unhealthy) and 5. (the human biological makeup is not omnivore by any stretch of the imagination ... check out the comparative anatomies here http://www.vegsource.com/veg_faq/comparative.htm if you haven't properly read vasumurti's posts).
kelmer you provide excellent revelation of "the irrational defensive responses from the meat eaters who claim to be for social justice"!
vasumurti!! rarely do we find someone who is so knowledgeable, thorough and effective a writer! your posts here are excellent as is your site http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/.
More quesions,emphryio.
Do you raise the garbanzo beans that make up your hummus?
Do you even know where the garbanzo are grown, how far they they are trucked to you or what it takes to grow them?
Are the farmworkers that produce them fairly paid?
How much water is needed to raise the grains you suggest eating?
Is it all hand harvested to save the wild life that lives in the fields?
Do you gather your own berries?
That's pretty funny. Did you bother to read anything I wrote about the land where I live or what it is suitable for?
Did you read how many wild animals are killed in row crop production?
What I do nourishes the earth and the people I feed.
Rather that respond with a logical argument, you're just trying to be insultingby implying that yhe work I have chosen is somehow evil.
So what do you do to help feed your community and honor life?
Eat hummus mixed with vegetables and/or grains and also fruits and nuts. It's just as satisfying and far, far better for your health.
There is no moderate amount of meat consumption. I'm sorry you're worried you some day may have to get a job that doesn't hurt the environment, people's health and animals.
So don't eat feedlot grain raised cattle. Moderate your consumption of meat. Support your environment and your community by buying from local pastured beef and poultry producers.
"....Row crop cultivation actually kills MORE wild animals at harvesting. Anyone here ever seen the 'death path' that follows a wheat harvester? Voles, snakes, birds that nest in the fields, even fawns are killed when the combines come through."
It does not kill MORE wild animals. The "death path"? This is simple dishonesty. A few animals may be killed but most get out of the way. As an argument to just say to hell with it and keep eating meat, this is pretty silly anyway.
"....By feeding my cattle strictly on grass, I do not use excessive amounts of grain that can be used for human consumption."
This does not apply to the vast majority of livestock. The amount of corn and soy used to fatten just US cattle even way back in 1975 would could have fed 1.3 billion humans.
As an organic farmer who not only raises beef and chicken for consumption, I find the essay rather naive.
Let's examine some of the more obvious contradictions, shall we?
1) All land is not suitable to raise vegetables. I live on 20 acres and my 'soil' is sand. You have to dig down 3 1/2 feet to hit clay. Were I to attempt to grow row crops of corn or squash, I would have to dump a ton of fertilizers on the land. As I live in a climate with erratic rainfall, I would also have to irrigate constantly. What does grow, and grow well on my land is a type of grass called coastal. By raising pastured poultry and beef, I can utilize the land to feed family and my community without imposing a heavy footprint of petroleum based products on it. By feeding my cattle strictly on grass, I do not use excessive amounts of grain that can be used for human consumption.
2) Row crop cultivation actually kills MORE wild animals at harvesting. Anyone here ever seen the 'death path' that follows a wheat harvester? Voles, snakes, birds that nest in the fields, even fawns are killed when the combines come through.
3) We have developed a symbiotic relationship with a very limited group of animals-the cow, the pig, the sheep, the goat, the chicken etc over the centuries. The reason, for example, that people in Africa did not harness the zebra or milk the giraffe is not because they were too dumb to practice live stock husbandry but because these animals can not be domesticated. My cows are dependent upon me to provide for their welfare. For example, a fungus lives in my soil that kills healthy calves at 3 months. I give them an injection that keeps them alive. I provide relief from the flies in the summer, fresh clean water and a healthy natural environment and in turn, my cows and chickens nourish me and my community.
4) By selling only to local consumers, I reduce the environmental consequences of the fossil fuel consumption that it takes to truck or fly vegetables across the country or across the world.
5) Americans as a group are divorced from the natural cycles of life and death. Most of us live in cities and have little real contact with the natural world where all creatures are born, live and ultimately die to provide energy for other creatures or our mother, the earth. The key is to honor and respect all forms of life but to also understand clearly that we are all part of the cycle.
Our current system of animal husbandry-the factory farm-is an abomination for both animals and the earth. I won't eat any animal unless I have raised it and know without a doubt that it has been raised with dignity and respect in a qualitative natural environment and is slaughtered humanly.
And yes, I do slit my own chickens throat-after offering a prayer of thanks for the life that they are giving me.
tech2 wrote: "my point was that radical animal rights and radical vegetarianism has all the same characteristics of radical religion, therefore I conclude it is one."
It is *not* one...not yet, anyway. Animal rights is a secular moral philosophy, comparable to women's rights or civil rights, but one that could use the inspiration, blessings and support of organized religion. The record of organized religion with regards to animals is mixed: stronger in some religions than in others.
John Stuart Mill wrote: "The reasons for legal intervention in favor of children apply not less strongly to the case of those unfortunate slaves--the animals."
A rational case exists for the rights of preborn humans. The case for animal rights is stronger and more readily apparent. Animals are highly complex creatures, possessing a brain, a central nervous system and a sophisticated mental life. Animals actually suffer at the hands of their human tormentors and exhibit such "human" behaviors and feelings as fear and physical pain, defense of their children, pair bonding, group/tribal loyalty, grief at the loss of loved ones, joy, jealousy, competition, territoriality, and cooperation.
Dr. Tom Regan, the foremost intellectual leader of the animal rights movement and author of The Case for Animal Rights, notes that animals "have beliefs and desires; perception, memory, and a sense of the future, including their own future; and emotional life together with feelings of pleasure and pain; preference and welfare interests; the ability to initiate action in pursuit of their desires and goals; a psychophysical identity over time; and an individual welfare in the sense that their experiential life fares well or ill for them, logically independent of their utility for others and logically independent of their being the object of anyone else's interests."
Dr. Regan has pointed out that the animal rights movement is a part of (rather than apart from) the human rights movement. The campaign for animal rights is secular social and moral progress. The crusade to abolish every kind of animal exploitation and cruelty--including killing animals for food or "sport"--can in no way be equated with religious "dietary laws," "sacred cows," or various forms of "ritual slaughter."
The animal rights movement is comparable to the abolitionist movement that ended human slavery, the women's rights movement, the labor movement, and the various campaigns against poverty, racism, drunk driving, child abuse, rape and nuclear power. A number of the early American feminists, including Lucy Stone, Amelia Bloomer, Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton, were connected with the 19th century animal welfare movement. Together with Horace Greeley, the reforming, anti-slavery editor of The Tribune, they would meet to toast "Women's Rights and Vegetarianism."
With the power of the religious right and a Republican president has come concern in liberal circles for the separation of church and state. On the abortion issue, Catholics, fundamentalists and "born-again" Christians appear to be imposing their morality upon the rest of our secular society. The animal rights movement, however, is a secular and nonsectarian campaign, comparable to women's rights or civil rights...but again, one which could use the inspiration, blessings and support of organized religion.
In his 1975 book, Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes that the "tyranny of human over nonhuman animals" is "causing an amount of pain and suffering that can only be compared with that which resulted from the centuries of tyranny by white humans over black humans."
Singer favorably compares animal liberation with women's liberation, black liberation, gay liberation and movements on behalf of Native Americans and Hispanics. He optimistically observes: "...the environmental movement...has led people to think about our relations with other animals in a way that seemed impossible only a decade ago.
"To date, environmentalists have been more concerned with wildlife and endangered species than with animals in general, but it is not too big a jump from the thought that it is wrong to treat whales as giant vessels filled with oil and blubber to the thought that it is wrong to treat (animals) as machines for converting grains to flesh."
Abraham Lincoln said: "I care not for a man's religion whose dog or cat are not the better for it...I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."
Supporters of civil rights should be supportive of animal rights. Many of the moral and theological arguments used today to oppress animals were once used to oppress blacks. Buckner H. Payne, calling himself "Ariel," wrote in 1867, that "the tempter in the Garden of Eden...was a beast, a talking beast...the negro." Ariel argued that since the negro was not part of Noah's family, he must have been a beast. Eight souls were saved on the ark, therefore, the negro must be a beast, and "consequently he has no soul to be saved."
In her preface to Marjorie Spiegel's The Dreaded Comparison: Human and Animal Slavery, Alice Walker, author of The Color Purple, agrees with Ms. Spiegel's conclusion that, "The animals of this world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men..."
Ms. Spiegel writes that at a rally in San Francisco protesting the use of animals in medical research, former Alameda County supervisor John George said, "My people were the first laboratory animals in America." Black Americans suffered at the hands of research scientists just as animals continue to do today.
In 1968, civil rights leader Dick Gregory compared humanity's treatment of animals to the conditions of America's inner cities:
"Animals and humans suffer and die alike. If you had to kill your own hog before you ate it, most likely you would not be able to do it. To hear the hog scream, to see the blood spill, to see the baby being taken away from its momma, and to see the look of death in the animal's eye would turn your stomach. So you get the man at the packing house to do the killing for you.
"In like manner, if the wealthy aristocrats who are perpetuating conditions in the ghetto actually heard the screams of ghetto suffering, or saw the slow death of hungry little kids, or witnessed the strangulation of manhood and dignity, they could not continue the killing. But the wealthy are protected from such horror...If you can justify killing to eat meat, you can justify the conditions of the ghetto. I cannot justify either one."
Gregory credits the Judeo-Christian ethic and the teachings of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. with having caused him to become a vegetarian. In 1973, he drew a connection between vegetarianism and nonviolent civil disobedience:
"...the philosophy of nonviolence, which I learned from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. during my involvement in the civil rights movement was first responsible for my change in diet. I became a vegetarian in 1965. I had been a participant in all of the 'major' and most of the 'minor' civil rights demonstrations of the early sixties, including the March on Washington and the Selma to Montgomery March.
"Under the leadership of Dr. King, I became totally committed to nonviolence, and I was convinced that nonviolence meant opposition to killing in any form. I felt the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' applied to human beings not only in their dealings with each other—war, lynching, assassination, murder and the like—but in their practice of killing animals for food or sport. Animals and humans suffer and die alike...Violence causes the same pain, the same spilling of blood, the same stench of death, the same arrogant, cruel and brutal taking of life."
In a 1979 interview, Gregory explained: "Because of the civil rights movement, I decided I couldn't be thoroughly nonviolent and participate in the destruction of animals for my dinner...I didn't become a vegetarian for health reasons; I became a vegetarian strictly for moral reasons... Vegetarianism will definitely become a people's movement."
When asked if humans will ultimately have to answer to a Supreme Being for their exploitation of animals, Gregory replied, "I think we answer for that every time we go to the hospital with cancer and other diseases."
Gregory has also expressed the opinion that the plight of the poor will improve as humans cease to kill animals: "I would say that the treatment of animals has something to do with the treatment of people. The Europeans have always regarded their slaves and the people they have colonized as animals."
Since the 1980s, Dick Gregory has been involved in the anti-drug campaign. In one of his first major civil rights sermons at the Holt Street Baptist Church in Montgomery, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said: "If we are wrong, Jesus of Nazareth was merely a utopian dreamer...If we are wrong, justice is a lie!"
Bruce Friedrich of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) reported back in the late '90s that under Gregory's influence, Dexter Scott King—head of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Center for Nonviolence in Atlanta, and son of the slain civil rights leader—and King's widow, Coretta Scott King, had both become committed vegetarians.
Peter Singer concludes in Animal Liberation that "by ceasing to rear and kill animals for food, we can make extra food available for humans that, properly distributed, would eliminate starvation and malnutrition from this planet. Animal Liberation is Human Liberation, too." The animal rights movement should be supported by all caring Americans.
I read your post a few more times, and I am not saying I disagree with you, but please consider the following:
My response is this:
Humans are different from animals.
That does not give me the right to harm them, or abuse them, in fact, how a man relates to animals - wild and those domesticated ones under their care, is a measure of his character.
My experience with wild animals is that they are incredibly cruel to one another. There is an incredible violence in their character that is so dominated by the will to survive.
Heck, just turn on a nature channel and see how incredibly violent and harsh their world is. True there are moments of beauty and wonder, but if you look at their lot over the long term, its tough, and I would not wish it on anyone or any thing that lives.
On the other hand, domesticated animals can be a terror or a joy, just like children. In fact, a pet usually takes on the characteristics of its owner, to an embarrasing degree, and if I were a psychologist I would give sick people a pet, and analyse the pet's behaviour - in order to help the person, because - animals don't lie - they reflect their owner's to such a tee it is fantastic to see. Its human intervention into the wild untamed world - that safe and controlled and non-violent environment we create for our pets and flocks and herds - a world with rules, that really brings out their incredible nature.
Milk cows, chickens, sheep,... they all have their unique personalities, just like dogs and cats do. And we humans can experience great joy living (and dieing) with them.
ecoboi:
I really appreciate your response for its thoughtfullness and calm. These topics are hot and get most of us going, I am not an exception. And when criticizing others for expressing strong opinions as facts, I do the same. Not a very good debating manners and smarts :)
The problem with such forums is that we come to them with strong opinions and try to throw them on others. I wonder whether anyone really reads and participates in forums to learn something. It doesn't feel so.
So, we could argue back and forth for a long time. At least at this forum people seem to agree on some fundamentals which makes some exchange of opinions possible. Yet, there are often huge differences as in this matter. The issue is, of course, not about accepting cruelty that our society at large demonstrates towards animals. This is either an issue whether our food system should or can be further supported. The real issue debated here is whether it is the right thing to eat meat , or not.
It looks that there are at least platforms on which this can be debated:
1. Cultural. Some cultures like Hindu are, as far as I know, largely vegetarian. Our Western culture and most others around the world have always included meats. So, it is part of traditions, we learn to appreciate the taste, etc. One may argue that culture doesn't count when bigger things are on stake and there is a point in such arguement. Hence, the emergence of the vegeterian/vegan movement mostly based on ethical considerations.
2. Ethical. There we go. Animal cruelty is a strong point but this is not all. So is the fate of the starving third world countries. One may add fate of family farms that are in steady and often tragic decline.
3. Ecological. Energy use for producing meat industrially. Effect on climate change and global warming. That all speaks against eating meat. But there are these issues that I tried to raise that truly sustianable ecosystems must include livestock. I am aware of biodynamics or the cropping system to which you refer but are they truly sustainable in the sense that don't require external inputs? And can they sustain humans on purely vegetarian diet. I am not exhausting the topic here, just bringing a few points. But in this regard this is not so one-sided, at least not to me.
4. Health. The truly controversial topic. I wasn't eating meat for six years, at one point bought fully into Natural Hygiene movement philosophy so I cannot be accused of being a stubborn defender of my hamburger (which I don't eat :)). This is a huge topic and, I assume, very important. After all, we all want to be healthy. I need to write a bit more about it.
When it comes to health, we call very often on the mainstream orthodoxy to say what is healthy or what is not. We do that even when in other areas of our lives we totally distrust what the mainstream tells us. So, does it make sense that they are wrong in some areas and right in others? That would be a surprise since the coroporate and consequently political interests that the mainstream supports are strongly connected and principally represent the same. How many heard about the cholesterol hoax? Do we ever ask who and how much benefits from the belief in the cholestorol theory? Not just the big pharma. Even more the grain industry. Big, big boys. Do you know who is losing by maintaining this belief? Just look around.
If I could not trust the mainstream and consequently the science and other authorities, where to look for ideas how to live and what is right and what is wrong. Hence my interest in primitives (pre-civilization people) and indigeneous cultures. After all they had been doing something right if they survived for much longer than our civilization most likely wil. Please, don't accuse me for glorifying their ways of life because that is not the point. But we may learn a lot if managed to get somehow objective perspective of what these people were doing. Also, in terms of their diets.
When certain principles made sense before only after I learned about work of Weston A. Price I really became convinced. He was a dentist who studied at the beginning of the last century various cultures around the world to find if they were healthy and what where their diets. Then, he drew some conclusions. It is quite fascinating, indeed. For the last decade or so these ideas were revived and given some scientific support. Certainly a thing worthy to be accustomed.
The point is that neither them nor I advocate for a diet high in meat consumption. There is no substitute for veggies and fruits. I don't either advocate for being cruel to animals. Yet things are not as simple as some of us would like to see.
Wow,
vasumurti,
What was that all about? Perhaps I should brush up on my writting skills or something.
Perhaps I was not clear, my point was that radical animal rights and radical vegetarianism has all the same characteristics of radical religion, therefore I conclude it is one.
Now what sort of point were you trying to make? I would like to understand, but you just confused me.
What is your point?
Bobus:
Yes, indeed, "Writing a lot or writing something in the form of statements don't make things necessary right," as you prove in repeating yourself that "there is no such thing as sustainable agriculture without livestock."
Yes there is. It's called integrated fertility management. Organic farming can be done with composted green waste, nitrogen-fixing crops, intercropping, and crop diversity to ensure soil health.
The recurring arguments about the nutrients contained in meats that supposedly can't be found in plants are debunked by the fact of generations of millions of healthy (or healthier) vegetarians and vegans, who also don't consume the health-destructive cholesterol and animal protein and animal fat to be found in meat but not in plants.
> "And ask any small farmer whether he and she can run a small farm and produce variety of foods you need, vegatarian diets or not, without livestock?"
No need. There's a little strawberry farm right down the street; not a pig, chicken, or musk ox in sight. Could he bring livestock into crop rotation? Yes. Does he? No.
> "So, what sort of agriculture do you want to promote and support, not just for the lofty goal of feeding 6 billions but for your children to have a chance to live?"
Local organic, certified and non-certified, which has been shown to "double or triple the productivity of traditioal systems," per the UN Food and Agriculture Organization. No need to "start dreaming about a piece of organ meat, fish or even a grub. Just to keep on living."
We can eat plant-based diets for our health, assist in the shift from industrial to local farming for the health of the planet, and by not eating animals we can relinquish our grip on the massive, tortured ethical rationalizations that are strewn through these responses. (No, it is not unethical for a lion to tackle a zebra on the serengetti; yes, it is unethical for you to eat a cow, because you did not need to eat it, nor are you a lion and therefore you are bound by the concept of ethics).
True, we do have a choice. Those of us who are choosing to ignore or deny the obvious health, environmental and ethical concerns are obviously making a bad choice, on a planetary level. Shouting that zealots are trying to foist their opinions on you -- the same argument once made in the southern United States in defense of slavery -- won't change that reality.
tech2 wrote: "What scares me is what might come next. Radical religious type belief systems are responsible for most of the genocide, wars and destruction on this earth."
I would like to see organized religion take up the struggle for animal rights. Religion has been wrong before. It has often been said that on issues such as women's rights and human slavery, religion has impeded social and moral progress. It was a Spanish Catholic priest, Bartolome de las Casas, who first proposed enslaving black Africans in place of the Native Americans who were dying off in great numbers.
The church of the past never considered human slavery to be a moral evil. The Protestant churches of Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states actually passed resolutions in favor of the human slave traffic.
Human slavery was called "by Divine Appointment," "a Divine institution," "a moral relation," "God's institution," "not immoral," but "founded in right." The slave trade was called "legal," "licit," "in accordance with humane principles" and "the laws of revealed religion."
New Testament verses calling for obedience and subservience on the part of slaves (Titus 2:9-10; Ephesians 6:5-9; Colossians 3:22-25; I Peter 2:18-25) and respect for the master (I Timothy 6:1-2; Ephesians 6:5-9) were often cited in order to justify human slavery. Many of Jesus' parables refer to human slaves. Paul's epistle to Philemon concerns a runaway slave returned to his master.
The Quakers were one of the earliest religious denominations to condemn human slavery. "Paul's outright endorsement of slavery should be an undying embarrassment to Christianity as long as they hold the entire New Testament to be the word of God," says contemporary Quaker physician Dr. Charles P. Vaclavik. "Without a doubt, the American slaveholders quoted Paul again and again to substantiate their right to hold slaves.
"The moralist movement to abolish slavery had to go to non-Biblical sources to demonstrate the immoral nature of slavery. The abolitionists could not turn to Christian sources to condemn slavery, for Christianity had become the bastion of the evil practice through its endorsement by the Apostle Paul. Only the Old Testament gave the abolitionist any Biblical support in his efforts to free the slaves. 'You shall not surrender to his master a slave who has taken refuge with you.' (Deuteronomy 23:15) What a pittance of material opposing slavery from a book supposedly representing the word of God."
In 1852, Josiah Priest wrote Bible Defense of Slavery. Others claimed blacks were subhuman. Buckner H. Payne, calling himself "Ariel," wrote in 1867: "the tempter in the Garden of Eden...was a beast, a talking beast...the negro." Ariel argued that since the negro was not part of Noah's family, he must have been a beast. Eight souls were saved on the ark, therefore, the negro must be a beast, and "consequently, he has no soul to be saved."
The status of animals in contemporary human society is not unlike that of human slaves in centuries past. Quoting Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18 or any other biblical passages in favor of liberty, equality and an end to human slavery in the 18th or 19th century would have been met with the same kind of response animal rights activists receive today if they quote Bible verses in favor of ethical vegetarianism and compassion towards animals.
Some of the worst crimes in history have also been committed in the name of religion. There's a great song along these lines from 1992 by Rage Against the Machine entitled "Killing in the Name."
Someone once pointed out that while Hitler may have claimed to be a Christian, he imprisoned Christian clergy who opposed the Nazi regime, and even Christian churches were subject to the terror of the Nazis. Thinking along these lines, I realize that while I would like to see organized religion support animal liberation (e.g., as was the case with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the American civil rights movement) rather than simply remain an obstacle to social and moral progress (e.g., 19th century southern churches in the U.S. upheld human slavery on biblical grounds), this support must come freely and voluntarily (e.g., "The Liberation of All Life" resolution issued by the World Council of Churches in 1988).
Religious institutions can't be coerced into rewriting their holy books or teaching a convoluted doctrine to suit the whims or the secular political ideology of a particular demagogue. American liberals argue that principle of the separation of church and state (upon which the United States was founded) gives us freedom FROM religious tyranny and theocracy. Conservatives argue (the other side of the coin!) that one of the reasons America's founding fathers established the separation of church and state was to prevent government intrusion into religious affairs.
I agree with Reverend Marc Wessels, Executive Director of the International Network for Religion and Animals (INRA), who said on Earth Day 1990:
"It is a fact that no significant social reform has yet taken place in this country (the United States) without the voice of the religious community being heard. The endeavors of the abolition of slavery; the women's suffrage movement; the emergence of the pacifist tradition during World War I; the struggles to support civil rights, labor unions, and migrant farm workers; and the anti-nuclear and peace movements have all succeeded in part because of the power and support of organized religion. Such authority and energy is required by individual Christians and the institutional church today if the liberation of animals is to become a reality."
The number of animals killed for food in the United States is 70 times larger than the number of animals killed in laboratories, 30 times larger than the number killed by hunters and trappers, and 500 times larger than the number of animals killed in animal pounds. So if we really want to end animal cruelty, vegetarianism and veganism would be a good place to start!
Roberta Kalechofsky of Jews for Animal Rights similarly says:
"Merely by ceasing to eat meat
Merely by practicing restraint
We have the power to end a painful industry
"We do not have to bear arms to end this evil
We do not have to contribute money
We do not have to sit in jail or go to
meetings or demonstrations or
engage in acts of civil disobedience
"Most often, the act of repairing the world,
of healing mortal wounds,
is left to heroes and tzaddikim (holy people)
Saints and people of unusual discipline
"But here is an action every mortal can
perform--surely it is not too difficult!"
When I gave a talk on religion and animals before the San Francisco Vegetarian Society back in February 2001, I told the audience I deliberately chose to focus on the Western religious traditions, because--for too long--the stereotype of "religious vegetarians" is that they are all followers of Eastern religions, believing you might be reincarnated as a cow in your next life, if you're not careful. (This drew a chuckle from the audience.) I told the audience I wanted to show that the Western religious traditions also support the vegetarian way of life.
There are all kinds of fictitious "gospels" floating around, like the Aquarian Gospel, the Gospel of the Holy Twelve, the Essene Gospel of Peace, etc. Some of these "gospels" depict Jesus as a vegetarian, others say he taught reincarnation (I believe reincarnation IS compatible with Christianity--on an abstract, theological level), or that Jesus traveled to India, etc.
Mainline churches aren't about to take these "gospels" seriously--and with good reason. The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, for example, was received by mediums in seances in 19th century England! Swedish New Testament scholar Per Beskow wrote a book entitled Strange Tales About Jesus, which effectively debunks these "gospels." He's now retired and living in Spain. I sent Per Beskow a copy of They Shall Not Hurt or Destroy, and he agreed with me that I have NOT written a "strange tale." However, he didn't think I provided enough compelling historical data or evidence to demand that Christians be vegan. He admitted, though, that his field of expertise is historical, not theological.
When I wrote They Shall Not Hurt or Destroy, I made it a point to stick to orthodoxy: Scripture, theology, church history, secular history, the teachings of the early church fathers, the lives of the saints and religious reformers, current trends in animal liberation theology, etc.
For example:
Jesus taught his disciples to pray for the coming of God's kingdom (Matthew 6:9-10), the kingdom of peace, in which the entire world is restored to a vegetarian paradise (Genesis 1:29; Isaiah 11:6-9). Recalling Psalm 37:11, he blessed the meek, saying they would inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5) The kingdom of God belongs to the gentle and kind (Matthew 5:7-9) Christians are to "Be merciful, just as your Father is also merciful." (Luke 6:36) Those who take up the sword must perish by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
Jesus spoke of God's tender care for the nonhuman creation (Matthew 6:26-30, 10:29-31; Luke 12:6-7, 24-28). Jesus not only repeatedly upheld Mosaic Law (Matthew 5:17-19; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 16:17), he justified his healing on the Sabbath by referring to biblical commandments calling for the humane treatment of animals (Luke 13:10-16, 14:1-5). Jesus compared saving sinners who had gone astray from God's kingdom to rescuing lost sheep, and recalled a Jewish legend about Moses' compassion as a shepherd for his flock. (Matthew 18:11-13; Luke 15:3-7,10)
Jesus taught that God desires "mercy and not sacrifice." (Matthew 9:10-13, 12:6-7; Mark 2:15-17; Luke 5:29-32) The epistle to the Hebrews 10:5-10 suggests that Jesus did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets, but only the institution of animal sacrifice, as does Jesus' cleansing the Temple of those who were buying and selling animals for sacrifice and his overturning the tables of the moneychangers in the Temple. (Matthew 21:12-14; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45-46; John 2:14-17)
Jesus insisted upon the moral standards given by God in the beginning (Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-9; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18), and this did not go unnoticed by early church fathers such as St. Jerome. From history, too, we learn that the earliest Christians were vegetarians as well as pacifists. For example, Clemens Prudentius, the first Christian hymn writer, in one of his hymns exhorts his fellow Christians not to pollute their hands and hearts by the slaughter of innocent cows and sheep, and points to the variety of nourishing and pleasant foods obtainable without blood-shedding.
Some of the most distinguished figures in the history of Christianity have been vegetarian. A partial list includes: St. James, St. Matthew, Clemens Prudentius, Origen, Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria, St. Jerome, St. John Chrysostom, St. Benedict, Aegidius, Boniface, St. Richard of Wyche, St. Filipo Neri, St. Columba, John Wray, John Wesley, Joshua Evans, William Metcalfe, General William Booth, Ellen White, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, and Reverend V.A. Holmes-Gore.
A vegetarian bumper sticker reads: "Vegetarianism is Love in Action." Reverend Marc Wessels of INRA similarly writes:
"The most important teaching which Jesus shared was the need for people to love God with their whole self and to love their neighbor as they loved themselves. Jesus expanded the concept of neighbor to include those who were normally excluded, and it is therefore not too farfetched for us to consider the animals as our neighbors.
"To think about animals as our brothers and sisters is not a new or radical idea. By extending the idea of neighbor, the love of neighbor includes love of, compassion for, and advocacy of animals. There are many historical examples of Christians who thought along those lines, besides the familiar illustration of St. Francis. An abbreviated listing of some of those individuals worthy of study and emulation includes Saint Blaise, Saint Comgall, Saint Cuthbert, Saint Gerasimus, Saint Giles, and Saint Jerome, to name but a few."
According to contemporary Benedictine monk, Brother David Steindl-Rast:
"...the survival of our planet depends on our sense of belonging---to all other humans, to dolphins caught in dragnets, to pigs and chickens and calves raised in animal concentration camps, to redwoods and rainforests, to kelp beds in our oceans, and to the ozone layer."
In a sermon preached in York Minster, September 28, 1986, John Austin Baker, the Bishop of Salisbury, England, attacked the overcrowded confinement methods of raising and killing animals for food ("factory farming"), choosing as his example, the treatment of chickens:
"Is there any credit balance for the battery hen, denied almost all natural functioning, all normal environment, lapsing steadily into deformity and disease, for the whole of her existence?" he asked. "It is in the battery shed and the broiler house, not in the wild, that we find the true parallel to Auschwitz. Auschwitz is a purely human invention."
Rick Dunkerly of Christ Lutheran Church says:
"The Bible-believing Christian, should, of all people, be on the frontline in the struggle for animal welfare and rights. We who are Christians should be treating the animal creation now as it will be treated then, at Christ's second coming. It will not now be perfect, but it must be substantial, otherwise we have missed our calling, and we grieve the One we call 'Lord,' who was born in a stable surrounded by animals simply because He chose it that way."
Rose Evans, editor and publisher of Harmony: Voices for a Just Future, a "consistent-ethic" periodical on the religious left, says there are more Christian vegetarians than Jewish vegetarians. Yet some people still react to the idea of Christian vegetarianism as though it were an oxymoron.
"Every year," says Reverend Andrew Linzey, author of Christianity and the Rights of Animals, "I receive hundreds of anguished letters from Christians who are so distressed by the insensitivity to animals shown by mainstream churches that they have left them or are on the verge of doing so...The time is long overdue to take the issue of animal rights to the churches...
"I derive hope from the Gospel preaching that the same God who draws us to such affinity and intimacy with suffering creatures declared that reality on a Cross in Calvary. Unless all Christian preaching has been utterly mistaken, the God who becomes incarnate and crucified is the one who has taken the side of the oppressed and the suffering of the world--however the churches may actually behave."
Writing a lot or writing something in the form of statements don't make things necessary right.
I will repeat myself but there is no such thing as sustainable agriculture without livestock. Yes, you can keep loading the soil with oil-powered fertilizers and keep depleting soils but how long, you think that can be continued, particularly when population keeps growing?
The argument in favour of eating meats is not in favour of eating huge amounts of meats. Yet, all animal products are much more nutritionally dense and contain fats and fat soluble vitamins that is not so easy to find, if at all, in the plant world. That is why no indigenous culture, as I know, was eating plants only. It may help to keep in mind when you try to walk through the jungle of nutritional information of what most is just false.
And who do you think and how will produce the food you and the rest of the $6+ billions (or what is left out of it) want to eat once the industrial food production system that we all love to hate collapses? Small farmers, right? But did you think how many of them are there left? If you did, that would be awakening. And ask any small farmer whether he and she can run a small farm and produce variety of foods you need, vegatarian diets or not, without livestock? So, what sort of agriculture do you want to promote and support, not just for the lofty goal of feeding 6 billions but for your children to have a chance to live?
It is relatively easy to be a vegan in the Western countries with zillion of choices. Try to do it when your selection of foods is drastically limited and you may start dreaming about a piece of organ meat, fish or even a grub. Just to keep on living.
I don't think you will find anyone on this site that is for industrial agriculture. Its unethical, cruel, unsustainable, etc. etc....
This author is of the opinion that ANY kind of meat consumption is not to be included in the solution that we are all working towards, searching for.
Moreover, he also mentions eggs and milk products. No animal is killed producing these. And they can be produced humanely, and the animals could die naturally, so what is the problem with these foods?
I cannot understand how a website like this can be such an advocate of free speech, free thought, open society, etc.. etc.. and think that part of an open society is for a small segment of the population to deciede on what everyone can and cannot eat.
Moreover, the criteria of what is not acceptable to eat is solely based on a personal moral outlook that basicly consists of the following principles:
-insects, worms, dogs, cats, thistle bushes, horses, chimps humans, whales, all being "alive" are morally equal.
-to kill anything for the sole purpose of gorging on its corpse is immoral.
These principles are not universal, and hence not being universal are purely personal choices.
I think everyone can agree on things like putting an end to feedlots, poultry that can't walk, and much worse, using animals in medical research, etc... which are all horrible things that have to be stopped.
When I read some of these comments, what comes to mind for me is Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell. How can some of you be so critical of people like that, yet you sound just like them???
The nutritional advantages of a vegetarian diet are well-known in the American medical community, but are just beginning to gain acceptance in mainstream society. The ethical, nutritional and environmental arguments in favor of vegetarianism have been well documented by author John Robbins in his 1987 Pulitzer Prize nominated book, Diet for a New America, which makes ethical vegetarianism seem as mainstream as recycling.
It's healthier to be a vegetarian. During the period of October 1917 to October 1918, war rationing forced the Danish government to put its citizens on a vegetarian diet. This was a "mass experiment in vegetarianism," with over three million subjects. The results were astonishing. The mortality rate dropped by 34 percent. The very same phenomenon was observed in occupied Norway during the Second World War. After the war, heavy consumption of meat resumed, and the mortality rate shot back up.
The populations consuming the highest levels of animal flesh—the Eskimos, Laplanders, Greenlanders and Russian Kurgi tribes—also have the life expectancies, averaging about 30 years. Nor can such a short lifespan be attributed to harsh climate. The Russian Caucasians and Yucatan Indians, for example, live mostly on vegetarian foods and have life expectancies of 90 to 100 years.
The populations with the longest lifespans include the Vilacambans of Ecuador, the Abhikasians of the former USSR, and the Hunzas of Pakistan. The most remarkable feature of all these people is that they live almost entirely on plant foods. The Hunzas, for example, eat a diet that is 98.5 percent plant food.
Studies done at Yale University by Professor Irving Fisher demonstrated that flesh-eaters have less endurance than vegetarians. A similar study done by Dr. J. Ioteyko of the Academie de Medicine in Paris found that vegetarians have two to three times more stamina than flesh-eaters and they take only one-fifth the time to recover from exhaustion.
In recent years, there has been widespread concern about osteoporosis, which is epidemic in America, especially among older women. The popular myth has been to solve the problem by consuming more calcium. Yet this doesn't attack the root of the problem.
Osteoporosis is caused by excess consumption of protein. Americans overdose on protein, getting 1.5 to 2 times more protein than their bodies can handle. The body can't store excess protein, so the kidneys are forced to excrete it. In doing so, they must draw upon calcium from the bloodstream. This negative calcium balance in the blood is compensated for by calcium loss from the bones: osteoporosis. The calcium lost in the bones of flesh-eaters is 5 to 6 times greater than that lost in the bones of vegetarians.
Excessive protein intake also taxes the kidneys; in America, it is not uncommon to find many over 45 with kidney problems. A strong correlation between excessive protein intake and cancer of the breast, prostate, pancreas and colon has even been observed.
It must be pointed out that meat, fish, and eggs are the most acidic forming foods; heavy consumption of these foods will cause the body to draw upon calcium to restore its pH balance. The calcium lost from the bones gets into one's urine and often crystallizes into kidney stones, which are found in far greater frequency among flesh-eaters than among vegetarians. Studies have found that vegetarians in the United States have less than half the kidney stones of the general population.
The high consumption of saturated fats and cholesterol leads to artherosclerosis—more popularly known as "hardening of the arteries." Plant foods contain zero cholesterol and only palm oil, coconuts and chocolate contain saturated fats. Lowering the cholesterol and fat intake in one's diet lowers the risk of heart disease—America's biggest killer.
As far back as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that "A vegetarian diet can prevent 97% of our coronary occlusions." Much has been said about the advantage of polyunsaturated fats as a means of lowering cholesterol in the blood. Unfortunately, this also has the adverse side effect of driving the cholesterol out of the blood and into the colon; contributing to colon cancer. The best way to prevent heart disease is to avoid foods high in fat and cholesterol.
Up to 50 percent of all cancers are caused by diet. Meat and fat intake are primarily responsible. The incidence of colon cancer is high in regions where meat consumption is high and low where meat consumption is minimal. A lack of fiber in the diet also contributes significantly to colon cancer.
It's important to remember that unprocessed plant foods are high in fiber and carbohydrates, while animal flesh has none. The highest incidence of breast cancer occurs among flesh-eating populations; meat eating women have a four times greater risk of developing breast cancer than do vegetarian women. There is also a greater risk of cervical, uterine, and ovarian cancer—all linked to diets high in fat. Men who consume large quantities of animal fat also have a 3.6 times greater risk of getting prostate cancer.
Diabetes is known to be treatable on a low fat, high fiber diet. Incidence of diabetes balloons among populations eating a rich, meat-based diet. Hypoglycemia is caused by the excessive consumption of meats, sugar and fats. Multiple Sclerosis is also treatable on a low-fat diet. MS is prevalent among populations where consumption of animal fats is high and is least common where such consumption is low. A brain tissue analysis of people with MS found a high saturated fat content.
Ulcers occur most frequently in diets which are acid forming, low in fiber and high in fats. Meat, fish, and eggs are the most acid forming of all foods, and animal flesh has no fiber and excess fat. Low fiber, high-fat diets are the principle cause of hemorrhoids and also diverticulosis—which affects 75 percent of Americans over the age of 75. Similarly, 35 percent of Americans are afflicted with some form of arthritis by the age of 35. Over 85 percent of all Americans over age 70 have arthritis, yet it is treatable on a fat free diet.
The United States Public Health Service estimates that some 60 million Americans are overweight. Exercise is helpful, but so is proper diet and nutrition. Foods high in fiber, low in fat and moderate in protein are most conducive to maintaining proper body weight.
Excess cholesterol forms gallstones. Gallstones, as well as gallbladder disease and gallbladder cancer are usually found in people with low-fiber, high cholesterol, high fat diets. Hypertension is virtually unknown in countries where the intake of salts, fat and cholesterol is low. At the University Hospital in Linkoping, Sweden, even severe asthma patients were found to be treatable on a vegetarian diet. Flesh foods in America are also contaminated with coliform bacteria and salmonella. Much healthier alternatives exist.
"I have no doubt that it is part of the destiny
of the human race in its gradual development
to leave off the eating of animals, as surely as
the savage tribes have left off eating each
other when they came into contact with
the more civilized."
---Henry David Thoreau
Some argue that human intelligence has enabled man to transcend his physical limitations and function as a "natural" flesh-eater. If this is true, then we must also classify napalm, poison gas, and nuclear weapons as "natural," too, because they are also products of (misused!) human intelligence. Agriculture and cookery aren't found in nature, either. One might therefore argue if human technology is "natural," then the ethical treatment of animals is equally natural.
"I am the very opposite of an anthropomorphizer," says writer Brigid Brophy. "I don't hold animals superior or even equal to humans. The whole case for behaving decently towards animals rests on the fact that we are the superior species. We are the species uniquely capable of rationality, imagination and moral choice, and that is precisely why we are under obligation to respect the rights of other creatures."
The myth that humans are naturally a predator species remains popular:
"The beast of prey is the highest form of active life," wrote Nazi philosopher Oswald Spengler in 1931. "It represents a mode of living which requires the extreme degree of the necessity of fighting, conquering, annihilating, self-assertion. The human race ranks highly because it belongs to the class of beasts of prey. Therefore we find in man the tactics of life proper to a bold, cunning beast of prey. He lives engaged in aggression, killing, annihilation. He wants to be master in as much as he exists."
The fact that predators exist in the wild does not imply man must automatically imitate them. Cannibalism and rape also occur in nature. Robert Louis Stevenson, in his book, In the South Seas, wrote that there was little difference between the "civilized" Europeans and the "savages" of the Cannibal Islands: "We consume the carcasses of creatures with like appetites, passions, and organs as our own. We feed on babes, though not our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear."
Moreover, the popular argument that it is 'natural" for us to utilize murdered animals as a source of food does not (ecologically) justify factory farming and raising livestock as we know it today. It justifies hunting. The Native Americans, the Eskimo and other hunter-gatherer tribes have traditionally lived more in harmony with their environment than does modern man in urban civilization.
Vegetarianism is relevant to both our modern world and its religious teachings. The livestock population of the United States today consume enough grain and soybeans to feed over five times the entire human population. American cows, pigs, chicken, sheep, etc. eat up 90 percent of our wheat, 80 percent of our corn, and 95 percent of our oats. Less than half of the harvested agricultural acreage in the United States is used to grow food for human consumption. Most of it is used to grow livestock feed.
In The Wealth of Nations, economist Adam Smith noted the advantages of a vegetarian diet: "It may indeed be doubted whether butcher's meat is anywhere a necessary of life. Grain and other vegetables, with the help of milk, cheese, and butter, or oil, where butter is not to be had, afford the most plentiful, the most wholesome, the most nourishing, and the most invigorating diet. Decency nowhere requires that any man should eat butcher's meat."
Ronald J. Sider of Evangelicals for Social Action, in his 1977 book, Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger, pointed out that 220 million Americans were eating enough food (largely because of the high consumption of grain fed to livestock) to feed over one billion people in the poorer countries.
The realization that meat is an unnecessary luxury, resulting in inequities in the world food supply, has prompted religious leaders in different denominations to call on their members to abstain from meat. Paul Moore, Jr., the Episcopal bishop of the Diocese of New York, made such an appeal in a November 1974 pastoral letter calling for the observance of "meatless Wednesdays."
A similar appeal had previously been issued by Cardinal Cooke, the Roman Catholic archbishop of New York. The Reverend Eugene Carson Blake, former head of the World Council of Churches and founder of Bread for the World, has encouraged everyone in his anti-hunger organization to abstain from eating meat on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
"Is this not the fast I have chosen? To loosen
the chains of wickedness, to undo the bonds of
oppression, and to let the oppressed go free?
Is it not to share thy bread with the hungry,
sheltering the oppressed and the homeless?
Clothing the naked when you see them, and
not turning your back on your own?"
---Isaiah 58:6-8
Father Thomas Berry, a Catholic priest, author, and founder of the Riverdale Center for Religious Research in New York, wrote in 1987 that "vegetarianism is a way of life that we should all move toward for economic survival, physical well-being, and spiritual integrity."
Punk, you're good.
There is no rational reason to eat meat; many rational reasons not to.
There is no charitable reason to eat meat; many charitable reasons not to.
Wow. Given the number of blog comments, this issue needs more frequent articles and more opportunity to explore the issues.
The issue that I think the author did not mention that is critical is one of energy, thermodynamics and efficiency.
In short, we have a massively unsustainable economy based on finite resources, the primary resource being petroleum. We may already be into the period of 'peak oil' production on a global scale. The end game won't be pretty.
http://www.theoildrum.com/
And meat? It is, if not incredibly cruel, indisputably wasteful. It is, by a FACTOR OF 10, more efficient to eat lower on the food chain, eat plants (grains primarily) directly rather than lose energy (x10) by channeling those calories through animals. And that says NOTHING of the waste of water, the waste of land, and massive burden to the planet's ecology.
Good overview of all the issues:
http://www.sustainabletable.org/issues/
I am reading Barbara Kingsolver's new book right now- I have yet to finish, but so far she has NOT advocated a vegetarian/vegan diet. She is advocating for local, sustainable eating habits i.e. raising your own vegetables, eating locally grown products (including meat).
I would love to see the documentation that states that eating "grains" are good for humans.
...and the last time I checked (.7 seconds ago) I have four sharp teeth.
What about the other species that are NOT quadrapeds (snakes, insects, fish, sharks, whales, primates etc) that eat meat?
I don't believe in causing suffering to any entity- nor do I believe all the other species of the world do, while consuming food (meat).
In our "civilized" world, it isn't an ethical question as far as "should we eat meat" it is "how should we eat meat"?
Things need to change, and there are entities out there trying to change the way people raise, slaughter, buy and eat meat.
Vasurmurti, studying numbers does not equate to a degree in Biology or history so I suggest you research the history of the human diet (and the fact that not just lions and tigers eat meat).
If it is unethical for human beings to eat meat, then is it unethical for a bear, given the fact that a bear COULD live off of berries?
When a lion tackles a zebra on the serengeti, is that unethical or is that nature?
Again "how" we eat meat needs to be addressed. Ask people who study the human body and nutrition, and human behavior and they well tell you that consuming meat is not unhealthy.
And as a side note, I love that we as human beings take no responsibility for the over population of cattle or of human beings.
. . . just got back from 2 1/2 weeks travelling in Northern Ontario . . . think hunting, trapping, fishing . . . not that I do those things. I had a hard time watching a fish die. I have tremendous respect for those who take the full responsibility for skinning, cleaning, cooking, eating what they kill. There is a big difference between sport and supermarket convenience and honouring the animal you have killed. Having said that, I have two Golden Retrievers that I feed a raw meat diet due to allergy issues with kibble -- and even kibble comes from -- you guessed it -- slaughtered farmed animals. On the one hand, I've felt guilty for continuing to support the farming of animals for slaughter through my dogs, but on the other hand, putting the raw meat out twice a day fully mindful of the living creatures who've been sacrificed on behalf of my dogs is perhaps more honest than schlepping out two scoops of kibble without a second thought.
Friedrich seems to have forgotten that until the rise of agribusiness which occured during the Depression - animals were treated quite humanely and killed in a much more humane way. Now, even the farmer like Joel at Polyface Farms in Staunton Virginia, cannot slaughter his beef without building a facility that is white tile inside and has a special bathroom fro the USDA inspector's use ONLY and has to slaughter 400 head a day before the USDA will approve the use of it. This means that you need to be in agribusoiness to even be allowed to slaughter beef. Not that this is the only meat we should eat, but Friedrich may have also forgotten that it was fat from meats which evolved the human brain to grow larger and become capable of forming groups like PETA. Humans who do not eat meat quickly become unhealthy as well. A balanced diet of fruits meats grains and vegetables with some occasional fungi's is good. The agribusiness treatment of animals is horrid indeed and I would recommend that people get pissed off about it. Read "The Omnivore's Dilemma"
http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php
and you'll see first hand how there are 2 different food chains that Americans have access to - the industrial and the alternative. The alternative food chains, those which employ older tactics without the use of petro chemical fertilizers, herbicides and insecticides or genetic engineering and steroids; continue to run up against the USDA which is literally in the employ of the likes of ADM, Monsanto, Conagra, & Cargill. I would love to see the people become angry enough to make a change in the way we produce our food. But Mr. Friedman seems to have misplaced his anger for to eat meat is VERY human, and we would not be here had our ancestors not eaten meat.
So what's wrong with eating meat? We can obviously see what's wrong with livestock agriculture. Eating meat and raising meat to eat are not the same thing.
If there is a comparrison that is looking for the best way, maybe hunting and gathering is the best. But the best for who? The Earth? Or 6.5 billion humans?
I'm from the perspective that we can't have both. I'll weigh in on the side of the planet.
Hunting gathering- best for the earth. relationships.
Agriculture -good for humans? (the vote is still out) It looks to be horrible for everything not human. And it's arguable that it's good for people.
This ain't a "what form of landbase destuction is better" conversation.
What's more humane? I come in on the side of relationships.
Our manipulation of vegetation to our own ends objectifies that form of life too. There's no relationship other than exploitative.
This one is easy, veggie burgers taste better.
Livestock agriculture is far less efficient in its use of land resources than plant food agriculture. This is one of the oldest arguments in favor of vegetarianism. It played a role in Plato's Republic. The poet Percy Bysshe Shelley invoked the argument in his discussions of "natural diet."
Mikkel Hindhede used the argument to help persuade Denmark to adopt a lacto-vegetarian diet when Denmark was blockaded by the Allies as a result of World War I. "If Central Europe had adopted a similar diet," he said, alluding to the disastrous German agricultural policies which emphasized meat production, "I doubt that anyone would have starved."
In her 1971 bestseller, Diet for a Small Planet, author Frances Moore Lappe pointed out that it takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. Most of the arable land in this country is used to grow feed for animals, not people. Mathematics professor Dr. Richard Schwartz, author of Judaism and Vegetarianism, writes about the "insanity" of animal agriculture.
Keith Akers discusses the futility of trying to place the rest of the world on a meat-centered diet in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983):
"Much of the land considered potentially arable in South America has low-quality soils and is very difficult to get to. Moreover, any expansion would almost certainly be at the expense of the already rapidly depleting forest areas. The same is true of Africa, where nonforested areas are already experiencing severe competition between grazing and cultivation. In Asia, the Far East, the Near East and Northern Africa, most of the potentially arable land is already under cultivation. So bringing additional land under cultivation is terribly difficult.
"The fact is, most of the easily available land has already been cultivated, and much of the uncultivated remainder could only be brought into cultivation by clearing forest areas, which should be protected. The best land is already taken; why would people cultivate the worst land first?
"Moreover, crop yields in the United States and other Western countries are much higher than in the Soviet Union, Asia and Africa. The 'Green Revolution,' high-yielding crop varieties, and advanced agricultural techniques require a great deal of supporting technology and natural resources which only an industrialized society can provide, or even afford: tractors, irrigation, fertilizers, etc.
"Suppose even these difficulties were overcome. Suppose all this additional land were brought into production, and the technology and fertilizers were provided to bring crop yields up to western standards. Such an agricultural system would hardly survive more than a few years.
"Energy consumption would skyrocket, more than tripling in the less developed countries. Irrigated land presently comprises only 15% of the world's total cropland; but of the new land at least 50% would have to be irrigated. So the demand for water supplies, already overwhelming in much of the world, would increase dramatically.
"Nor can fish provide any help here. There are signs that the fishing industry (which is quite energy-intensive) has already overfished the oceans in several areas. And fish could never play a major role in the world's diet anyway: the entire global fish catch of the world, if divided among all the world's inhabitants, would amount to only a few ounces of fish per person per week.
"In the long run, we are all going to be vegetarians. Doubtless through further exploitation of the environment, we can prolong the period in our history in which we think it is necessary to kill animals for food. But the ecological limitations of this procedure will soon make manifest to all that a vegetarian economy is both necessary and desirable.
"Only a small minority of the world's citizens will ever be able to consume meat at current American levels: the resources to support a more intensive livestock agriculture simply don't exist"
In his book Consuming Passions, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes:
"The case for vegetarianism is at its strongest when we see it as a moral protest against our use of animals as mere things, to be exploited for our convenience in whatever way makes them most cheaply available to us. Only the tiniest fraction of the tens of billions of farm animals slaughtered for food each year--the figure for the United States alone is nine billion--were treated during their lives in ways that respected their interests. Questions about the wrongness of killing in itself are not relevant to the moral issue of eating meat or eggs from factory-farmed animals, as most people in developed countries do.
"Even when animals are roaming freely over large areas, as sheep and cattle do in Australia, operations like hot-iron branding, castration, and dehorning are carried out without any regard for the animals' capacity to suffer. The same is true of handling and transport prior to slaughter. In the light of these facts, the issue to focus on is not whether there are some circumstances in which it could be right to eat meat, but on what we can do to avoid contributing to this immense amount of animal suffering.
"The answer is to boycott all meat and eggs produced by large-scale commercial methods of animal production, and encourage others to do the same. Consideration for the interests of animals alone is enough justification for this response, but the case is further strengthened by the environmental problems that the meat industry causes...
"Environmentalists are increasingly recognizing that the choice of what we eat is an environmental issue. Animals raised in sheds or on feedlots eat grains or soybeans...To convert eight or nine kilos of grain protein into a single kilo of animal protein wastes land, energy, and water. On a crowded planet with a growing human population, that is a luxury that we are becoming increasingly unable to afford.
"Intensive animal production is a heavy user of fossil fuels and a major source of pollution of both air and water. It releases large quantities of methane and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. We are risking unpredictable changes to the climate of our planet...for the sake of more hamburgers. A diet heavy in animal products, catered to by intensive animal production, is a disaster for animals, the environment, and the health of those who eat it."
I happen to be reading "The Desperate People" by Farley Mowat today. It's about the Ihalmiut first peoples of the deer in what is now the Hudson Bay region. Without the deer, they starved. Period. Is it wrong for them to eat meat?
While I don't know much about the noble savage idea, I do know they didn't screw up the planet like us vastly superior civilized folk are doing....eating meat or not. And they had a relationship with the life that they took for their own sustenance. Not all meat comes neatly wrapped in a styrofoam carton and plastic. The old ways don't seem too bad to me. A relationship.
30 year life span? Dunno if that's credible or not but who cares? It's not as tho' Eskimos could just pack up and move to Hollywood and the 24 hour a day supermarket.
If this is about right and wrong it's not that simple. Everyone likes a quick black and white answer. Especially if they can come off as morally superior. I'm no exception. I think that's called dogma.
The thing I see in this "conversation" is a complete lack of perspective into the vast array of circumstances that it takes for people to survive in their region. If I live in Hawaii, I can't expect that someone who lives in Duluth Minnesota, should eat mangoes everyday.
Point is. if it's good for you on your land-base it doesn't mean it's good for everyone else on theirs. Also, if it's a healthy diet for you, that doesn't make it a healthy diet for everyone.
There's nobody here arguing for factory farms. That's a no-brainer. Yet I seem to be hearing non-meat eaters reacting as tho' those of us who do eat meat, support Tyson or Foster Farms or some shit. Jeeze. If not eating meat works for you, don't eat meat. If eating meat works for you, then eat meat.
I'm not seeing anyone here saying, "yeah, cut off their beaks, pump 'em full of anti-biotics, overcrowd them, and rinse their feces into the local river, and wrap 'em in non-biodegradable material so that no-one ever thinks it was once alive! Now that's the kinda meal I want!"
Sheesh.
I volunteer on a CSF (community supported farm). I am learning a ton. Like even tho it's organic, it's not good for the land-base. Certain crops would not even exist if it weren't for our intervention. Plus, how about dams? Pretty much all of the farms in my region are irrigated from dams. How is that good for the environment? What do the salmon think of that?
Y'know.....those "savages" might not have been noble, but they sure knew how to forage. That didn't seem to fuck up the landbase either.
localeater: You failed miserably if your intent was to debunk vasumurti. And to the meat-eaters who say killing a carrot is the same as killing a cow or a human, I commend to you the Great Chain of Being. You may be shocked to learn this, but an animal with a nervous system is a little more alive than a plant without one.
"You can be vegan/vegetarian but you will become deficient in some way"
Wrong. I've been vegetarian since birth, and have never been deficient in anything. Animal products are not necessary, they are a crutch.
who would have thought so many thoughtful CD/s were vegetarians.However much some of us would like to become vegs,it surely is tilting at windmills in our capatilistic system.We could all eat less meat and drive less etc but the whole world needs to change !if this is to happen.
To vasumurti: . . . and human farts smell more like gorilla farts than wolf farts which proves. . . absolutely nothing.
To vasumurti: WOW! An amazing and wonderful essay/summary of research! Thank You!
As Yoda says, "Unlearn what you have learned."
Peace
If I could only raise all my own food. Industrialization has raised the split between man and animals. 200yrs ago we saw the start of the separation of animals from being at the center of mans existence to being at the farthest outreaches like they are today.
Industrialization also caused food processing to make nutrition-less food in order to fill quota packed for sales with sugars and salts. Almost all grains now, grown with no topsoil, processed to the nth degree, are worthless and indigestible, lacking all natural enzymes. We grew, slaughtered and picked all our own for 200,000 yrs. How can that compare to a stamped out puss bucket of a bloodied corporate chicken? We all just can't eat out anymore, unless you know 'Bill" down the block grew it! Yeah Right!
I'm vegan (for the most part) with a small side of meat. (No sugar treats....O.k. I'm lying but I shouldn't be.) You can be vegan/vegetarian but you will become deficient in some way, I have found out the hard way. Organic is the way and the only way. Work hard, play hard, don't break! It hurts!
Flesh-eating only makes "sense" if one assumes humans are a naturally carnivorous or omnivorous species. This assumption must first be questioned. My scientific training is in Physics and Applied Mathematics (the square root of 69 is 8 something!). I admit I only hold Bachelor's degrees from UC San Diego. Here is what my research on the subject tells me:
John Robbins, in his Pulitzer Prize nominated, Diet for a New America, writes that the populations consuming the highest levels of animal flesh--the Eskimos, Laplanders, Greenlanders and Russian Kurgi tribes--also have life expectancies averaging about 30 years. Nor can such a short lifespan be attributed to harsh climate. The Russian Caucasians and Yucatan Indians, for example, live mostly on vegetarian foods and have life expectancies of 90 to 100 years.
The populations with the longest lifespans include the Vilacambans of Ecuador, the Abhikasians of the former USSR, and the Hunzas of Pakistan. The most remarkable feature of all these people is that they live almost entirely on plant foods. The Hunzas, for example, eat a diet that is 98.5 percent plant food.
Human beings differ completely from the naturally carnivorous species such as wolves or tigers. Carnivores have a very short digestive tract--thrice the length of their bodies--to rapidly consume and excrete decaying flesh. Their urine is highly acidic and they possess hydrochloric stomach acid strong enough to dissolve muscle tissues and bones. Because they are night hunters who sleep during the day, carnivores don't sweat. They perspire through their tongue. Their jaws can only move up and down and their teeth are long and pointed, in order to cut through tendons and bones.
The carnivores are quadrupeds with keen eyesight and sense of smell. They possess not only the necessary speed to overtake their prey but also have sharp retractable claws which enable them to pull their victims to the ground and hold them fast.
The anatomy of natural omnivores, such as the bear or raccoon, is almost identical to that of the carnivores, except they possess a set of molars to chew the plant foods that they eat.
Herbivorous creatures such as sheep and cattle have a digestive tract 30 times the length of their bodies; they have several stomachs, which allows them to break down cellulose--something humans are unable to do. This is why we can't graze or live on grass. The urine and saliva of the herbivores are alkaline, and their saliva contains ptyalin for the predigestion of starches.
The frugivores (gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates) have intestinal tracts twelve times the length of the body, clawless hands and alkaline urine and saliva. Their diet is mostly vegetarian, occasionally supplemented with carrion, insects, etc.
Flesh-eating animals lap water with their tongue, whereas vegetarian animals imbibe liquids by a suction process. Humans are classified as primates and are thus frugivores possessing a set of completely herbivorous teeth. Our urine and saliva are alkaline, and our saliva contains ptyalin for the predigestion of starches.
Proponents of the theory that humans should be classified as omnivores note that human beings do, in fact, possess a modified form of canine teeth. However, these so-called "canine teeth" are much more prominent in animals that traditionally never eat flesh, such as apes, camels, and the male musk deer.
It must also be noted that the shape, length and hardness of these so-called "canine teeth" can hardly be compared to those of true carnivorous animals. A principle factor in determining the hardness of teeth is the phosphate of magnesia content. Human teeth usually contain 1.5 percent phosphate of magnesia, whereas the teeth of carnivores are composed of nearly 5 percent phosphate of magnesia. It is for this reason they are able to break through the bones of their prey, and reach the nutritious marrow.
Linneaus, who introduced binomial nomenclature (naming plants and animals according to their physical structure) wrote: "Man's structure, external and internal, compared with that of other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables constitute his natural food."
Dr. F. A. Pouchet, wrote: "It has been truly said that Man is frugivorous. All the details of his intestinal canal and above all else his dentition, prove it in the most decided manner."
One of the most famous anatomists, Baron Cuvier, wrote: "The natural food of man, judging from his structure, appears to consist principally of the fruits, roots, and other succulent parts of vegetables. His hands afford him every facility for gathering them; his short but moderately strong jaws on the other hand, and his canines being equal only in length to the other teeth, together with his tuberculated molars on the others, would scarcely permit him either to masticate herbage, or to devour flesh, were these condiments not previously prepared by cooking."
The poet Shelley, in his essay, "A Vindication of a Natural Diet", wrote:
"Comparative anatomy teaches us that man resembles the frugivorous animals in everything, the carnivorous in nothing...It is only by softening and disguising dead flesh by culinary preparation that it is rendered susceptible of mastication or digestion, and that the sight of its bloody juices and raw horror does not excite loathing and disgust...
"Man resembles no carnivorous animal. There is no exception, unless man be one, to the rule of herbivorous animals having cellulated colons. The orang-outang is the most anthropomorphic (man-like) of the ape tribe, all of whom are strictly frugivorous.
"There is no other species of animals which live on different foods in which this analogy exists...The structure of the human frame then, is that of one fitted to a pure vegetable diet in every essential particular."
Professor William Lawrence wrote: "The teeth of man have not the slightest resemblance to those of the carnivorous animals, excepting that their enamel is confined to the external surface. He possesses, indeed, teeth called canine; but they do not exceed the level of others, and are obviously unsuited to the purposes which the corresponding teeth execute in carnivorous animals. Thus we find, whether we consider the teeth and jaws, or the immediate instruments of digestion, that the human structure closely resembles that of the apes, all of whom, in their natural state, are completely herbivorous (frugivorous)."
Professor Charles Bell wrote: "It is, I think, not going too far to say that every fact connected with the human organisation goes to prove that man was originally formed a frugivorous animal. This opinion is derived principally from the formation of his teeth and digestive organs, as well as from the character of his skin and the general structure of his limbs."
Professor Richard Owen wrote: "The apes and monkeys, whom man nearly resembles in his dentition, derive their staple food from fruits, grain, the kernel of nuts, and other forms in which the most sapid and nutritious tissues of the vegetable kingdom are elaborated; and the close resemblance between the quadrumanous and the human dentition shows that man was, from the beginning, adapted to eat the fruit of the tree of the garden."
"Man, by nature, was never made to be a carnivorous animal," wrote John Ray, FRS, "nor is he armed for prey or rapine, with jagged and pointed teeth, and claws to rend and tear; but with gentle hands to gather fruit and vegetables, and with teeth to chew and eat them." According to Dr. Spenser Thompson, "Comparative anatomy and structure of modern man indicate fresh fruit and vegetables as the main food of man."
In The Natural Diet of Man, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg observes: "Man is neither a hunter nor a killer. Carnivorous animals are provided with teeth and claws with which to seize, rend, and devour their prey. Man possesses no such instruments of destruction and is less qualified for hunting than is a horse or a buffalo. When a man goes hunting, he must take a dog along to find the game for him, and must carry a gun with which to kill his victim after it has been found. Nature has not equipped him for hunting."
According to Dr. Kellogg, "The statement that man is omnivorous is made without an atom of scientific support...As a matter of fact, man is not naturally omnivorous, but belongs, as long ago pointed out by Cuvier, to the frugivorous class of animals along with the chimpanzee and other anthropoids.
"The hog is a truly omnivorous animal. Although he thrives best upon a diet of grass or clover, tender shoots, seeds, and succculent roots, he will eat animal flesh, raw or cooked, with avidity when hungry, and he does not hesitate to regale himself upon carrion, after his taste has been cultivated in this direction.
"Man is not omnivorous. He cannot subsist upon grass or raw grain. Taking his food from the hand of Nature, without the aid of cookery, he must confine his dietary to fruits, nuts, soft grains, tender shoots, and succulent roots...It is true he can acquire an appetite for meat, especially when cooked, but practically all animals can do the same. Hunters sometimes teach their horses to eat broiled venison and cows have been taught to eat fish with avidity. Du Chaillu found in the Island of Magero...that sheep and goats were fed daily on fish both raw and cooked."
Dr. Kellogg insists, however, that "cookery is no part of Nature's biologic scheme, and hence the fact that man is able to eat and digest cooked meat is no more evidence that he is carnivorous or omnivorous that the fact that he can eat and digest cooked corn is evidence that he is to be classified with graminivourous animals, like the horse, which are eaters of raw grains.
"The bill of fare which wise Nature provides for man in forest and meadow, orchard and garden, a rich and varied menu, comprises more than 600 edible fruits, 100 cereals, 200 nuts, and 300 vegetables--roots, stems, buds, leaves and flowers.... Fruits and nuts, many vegetables--young shoots, succulent roots, and fresh green leaves....are furnished by Nature ready for man's use."
Dr. Kellogg further notes that "the human liver is incapable of converting uric acid into urea," and this is "an unanswerable argument against the use of flesh foods as part of the dietary of man. Uric acid is a highly active tissue poison...The livers of dogs, lions, and other carnivorous animals detoxicate uric acid by converting it into urea, a substance which is much less toxic, and which is much more easily eliminated by the kidneys.
"Flesh foods are not the best nourishment for human beings and were not the food of our primitive ancestors," observes Dr. Kellogg. "There is nothing necessary or desirable for human nutrition to be found in meats or flesh foods which is not found in and derived from vegetable products."
Zoologist Desmond Morris makes a case for vegetarianism in his 1967 book, The Naked Ape: "It could be argued that, since our primate ancestors had to make do without a major meat component in their diets we should be able to do the same. We were driven to become flesh eaters only by environmental circumstances, and now that we have the environment under control, with elaborately cultivated crops at our disposal, we might be expected to return to our ancient feeding patterns."
In The Human Story, edited by Marie-Louise Makris (1985), we read: "...recent studies of their teeth reveal that the Australopithecines did not eat meat as a regular part of their diet, and were mainly peaceful vegetarians, rather like chimps or gorillas. The popular image of the murderous ape is now as extinct as the Australopithecines themselves."
Dr. Gordon Latto notes that carnivorous and omnivorous animals can only move their jaws up and down, and that omnivores "have a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth, a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth--showing that they were destined to deal both with flesh foods from the animal kingdom and foods from the vegetable kingdom...
"Carnivorous mammals and omnivorous mammals cannot perspire except at the extremity of the limbs and the tip of the nose; man perspires all over the body. Finally, our instincts; the carnivorous mammal (which first of all has claws and canine teeth) is capable of tearing flesh asunder, whereas man only partakes of flesh foods after they have been camouflaged by cooking and by condiments.
"Man instinctively is not carnivorous," explains Dr. Latto. "...he takes the flesh food after somebody else has killed it, and after it has been cooked and camouflaged with certain condiments. Whereas to pick an apple off a tree or eat some grain or a carrot is a natural thing to do; people enjoy doing it; they don't feel disturbed by it. But to see these animals being slaughtered does affect people; it offends them. Even the toughest of people are affected by the sights in the slaughterhouse.
"I remember taking some medical students into a slaughterhouse. They were about as hardened people as you could meet. After seeing the animals slaughtered that day in the slaughterhouse, not one of them could eat the meat that evening."
Author R.H. Weldon writes in No Animal Food:
"The gorge of a cat, for instance, will rise at the smell of a mouse or a piece of raw flesh, but not at the aroma of fruit. If a man can take delight in pouncing upon a bird, tear its still living body apart with his teeth, sucking the warm blood, one might infer that Nature had provided him with a carnivorous instinct, but the very thought of doing such a thing makes him shudder. On the other hand, a bunch of luscious grapes makes his mouth water, and even in the absence of hunger, he will eat fruit to gratify taste."
As far back as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that: "A vegetarian diet can prevent 97% of our coronary occlusions." More recently, Wiiliam S. Collens and Gerald B. Dobkens concluded: "Examination of the dental structure of modern man reveals that he possesses all the features of a strictly herbivorous animal. While designed to subsist on vegetarian foods, he has perverted his dietary habits to accept food of the carnivore. It is postulated that man cannot handle carnivorous foods like the carnivore. Herein may lie the basis for the high incidence of arteriosclerotic disease."
Keith Akers in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983), responds to the argument that killing animals for food is natural:
"The main problem with this argument is that it does not justify the practice of meat-eating or animal husbandry as we know it today; it justifies hunting. The distinction between hunting and animal husbandry probably seems rather fine to the man in the street, or even to your typical rule-utilitarian moral philosopher. The distinction, however, is obvious to an ecologist. If one defends killing on the grounds that it occurs in nature, then one is defending the practice as it occurs in nature.
"When one species of animal preys on another in nature, it only preys on a very small proportion of the total species population. Obviously, the predator species relies on its prey for its continued survival. Therefore, to wipe the prey species out through overhunting would be fatal. In practice, members of such predator species rely on such strategies as territoriality to restrict overhunting and to insure the continued existence of its food supply.
"Moreover, only the weakest members of the prey species are the predator's victims: the feeble, the sick, the lame, or the young accidentally separated from the fold. The life of the typical zebra is usually placid, even in lion country; this kind of violence is the exception in nature, not the rule.
"As it exists in the wild, hunting is the preying upon isolated members of an animal herd. Animal husbandry is the nearly complete annihilation of an animal herd. In nature, this kind of slaughter does not exist. The philosopher is free to argue that there is no moral difference between hunting and slaughter, but he cannot invoke nature as a defense of this idea.
"Why are hunters, not butchers, most frequently taken to task by the larger community for their killing of animals? Hunters usually react to such criticism by replying that if hunting is wrong, then meat-hunting must be wrong as well. The hunter is certainly right on one point--the larger community is hypocritical to object to hunting when it consumes the flesh of domesticated animals. If any form of meat-eating is justified, it would be meat from a hunted animal."
Finally, even if humans really are omnivores and not frugivores, as some claim (and this claim is subject to dispute: the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine advocates a vegan diet, an end to animal experimentation, etc.), my friend Mareechi Duvvuuri (another Hindu-American!) who once studied sports medicine, pointed out that the diet of natural omnivores is mostly (up to 85 percent) plant food.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals."
~Gandhi~
"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."
~Tolstoy~
Barbara Kingsolver's latest book "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle" hits on a lot of the same themes as Michael Pollan's "The Omnivore's Dilemma." Both would be a good read for the hardcore vegetarian/vegans in the room.
right on, bruce. thank you!
Almost everyone still confuses two different things:
1) principles behind eating animal products which need to be debated on the basis of our health, ethics, livestock as a part of sustainable farm, etc. and
2) deadly flaws of our industrial food system and particularly raising livestock and processing meat (industrial milk is even worse than meat - for animal welfare and our health).
For anyone progressive and doing her/his own thinking there should be no question that there is hardly anything acceptable about industrial food system until you are mostly interested with cheap food (or, what is called food), convenience and artificial taste. But when it comes to the first question, the story is not so simple. Let's at least admit it. Animal welfare accusations apply fully to the industrial food system but, let's say is it equally clear for animals humanely raised on farms, slaughter in the field for farmer own consumption? You are not a farmer and choices are very limited but that doesn't change the point.
Mainstream propaganda is somehow ingrained in our blood, even when we don't want to admit it or are not aware of it. We might clear it from our bloodstream in one area, but still not in others. For instance, where from do you know that eating soy and industrial plant oils is good for you? Do you know who and how presented this information to you? We need to beware of origins of all such information. But, on the other hand the uncompromised position of well-intended vegetarians is also one sided. I can say that as I was living both ways and understand well both positions and their arguments. But the more I understood, the more it seemed that the mainstream is wrong, for sure, but the vegatarian/vegan position is incomplete, missing some very important points. Yet, if someone wants to eat such diet it needs to be respected but please, don't tell me how much you are right and how much I am wrong. This is way too complex to be so simple.
If vegetarianism does not appeal to you on ethical grounds, perhaps it SHOULD appeal on the grounds of food safety. I quit eating meat 17 years ago on the grounds that, if I couldn't kill it (and I can't), I shouldn't eat it (so I don't). I can't say that it was an easy transition for me and I did it cold turkey (so to speak) so that I wouldn't continue on like smokers having just one more cigarette.
In the last ten years, I have been so pleased that I made that decision to quit eating meat. Not just because of the ethical concerns (from which I feel absolutely no fulfilling, satisfaction, interestingly), but for HEALTH reasons. The first time I heard of people dying from E. Coli, I thought it was a bit scary. Since then, it has become, at the very least, an annual event. The meat industry has been deregulated to such an extent that it is not SAFE to eat meat, anymore. At least not the common, grocery store variety. E. Coli won't kill most adults, but it will easily kill children and the elderly. And you ought to read the long term impact on the health of even healthy adults who get a good dose of it. It is chilling.
Of course, E. Coli is nothing compared to the horror of Mad Cow disease. And the meat industry has shown its indifference on this issue. Its unwillingness to make even the most obvious changes that could prevent an outbreak of this terrible illness. The meat industry will not react until there is a human casualty from this disease and by then there will be an untold number of victims waiting to express the illness. Because, in humans, it can take up to 20 years to show up. No cure, of course. Nothing to do but wait to see if you are one of the time bombs. And, if you believe that the government is keeping your meat safe, you had better look at the inspection process since the deregulation bonanza that was Ronald Reagan.
My concern with meat these days is that it is finding its way to the vegetarian diet. That the impact of E. Coli is spreading to vegetarian foods, such as the spinach outbreak. Factory farms poison animals and then allow those animals to spread the poison onto vegetables destined for our dinner tables. Of course, the inspection process is no better for vegetables than meat, so the only solution seems to be less meat production to decrease the odds of infected cows defecating on my dinner :-) Or, of course, the option that I have chosen: Buy Local. I know the people who grow my food, most of the time, and I know how they treat the animals (if any) that share their farms. I know who to turn to if there is a problem. I know that my voice will have an impact in the way they farm, because I am a significant part of their market rather than a nameless statistic for a factory farm.
It takes about 1/16 the space to produce a vegetarian diet as it does a meat diet. It is the healthiest thing for the planet. There is no way around that logic. Yes, we have the teeth of omnivores and it is our history to go either, or both, ways on diet. Yes, humans have long depended on animals, but that certainly doesn't mean we HAVE to. Tradition versus a sustainable future.
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-a tough issue to speak of in black and white.
Kelmer has 'the reality', Neomunk possesses the 'absolute truth'. -Thanks to Bobus for a reasonable response to an emotional argument.
The Omnivore's Dilemma, by Michael Pollan is the best book I've read on this topic for some time. Fast Food Nation, and Reefer Madness by Eric Schlosser were interesting as well.
Factory farms, at least those that I've seen in Texas are nightmarish specters. But haven't most of our farms become factories? How many calories of petroleum are required to produce a calorie of food on your plate? Who or what was displaced to grow/raise it? How far was it transported? Erosion? Pollution?
Trying to claim ethical righteousness on food issues is a stretch in America and most of the developed world.
How many farms or farmers are you familiar with?
Start there. Location,location,location.
There are lots of meat eaters working hard in the human rights arena, who are in my view - far more useful to our slowly awakening society than some of the vegetarians who sit at their house all day self absorbed, contemplating their navals.
Progressives must stick together, no matter what they eat or believe. If all the meat eating progressives changed their ideals and goals, we would probably loose 50% or more of our numbers and many of the hardest working and most productive people.
I know a lot of good people who eat dead animal flesh everyday. I haven't in over a decade. It'd be great if everyone realized all the good reasons not to eat animal flesh, but there are some (arguably) more important issues - like stopping political corruption, war, racism, & poverty. The animal rights issues must be dealt with, but I think they'll be worked out quickly after or as, the other more important (in my view) issues are worked out.
If you're standing against political corruption, war, and poverty, that's good enough for me, and I WILL stand in solidarity with you, regardless of what you eat or believe. First things first!
Peace on Earth - Goodwill to ALL!
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"What comes out of our mouths is far more
important that what goes into them."
Alice Bailey
jbs,
Yes.
Half the water consumed in the U.S. goes to irrigate land growing feed and fodder for livestock. Huge amounts of water are also used to wash away their excrement. U.S. livestock produce 20 times as much excrement as does the entire human population; creating sewage which is ten to several hundred times more concentrated than raw domestic sewage. Animal wastes cause ten times more water pollution than does the U.S. human population; the meat industry causes three times as much harmful organic water pollution than the rest of the nation's industries combined.
Meat producers are the number one industrial polluters in the nation, contributing to half the water pollution in the United States. The water that goes into a 1,000 pound steer could float a destroyer. It takes 25 gallons of water to produce a pound of wheat, but 2,500 gallons to produce a pound of meat. If these costs weren't subsidized by the American taxpayers, the cheapest hamburger meat would be $35 per pound!
The burden of subsidizing the California meat industry costs taxpayers $24 billion. Livestock producers are California's biggest consumers of water. Every tax dollar the state doles out to livestock producers costs taxpayers over seven dollars in lost wages, higher living costs and reduced business income. Seventeen western states have enough water supplies to support economies and populations twice as large as the present.
Overgrazing of cattle leads to topsoil erosion; turning once-arable land into desert. We lose four million acres of topsoil each year, and 85 percent of this loss is directly caused by raising livestock. To replace lost soil, we're chopping down our forests. Since 1967, the rate of deforestization in the U.S. has been one acre every five seconds. For each acre cleared in urbanization, seven are cleared for grazing or growing livestock feed.
If the world population triples in the next 100 years, and meat consumption continues, then meat production would have to triple as well. Instead of 3.7 billion acres of cropland and 7.5 billion acres of grazing land, we would require 11.1 billion acres of cropland and 22.5 billion acres of grazing land.
But this is slightly larger than the total land area of the six inhabited continents! We are already desperately short of forests, topsoil, groundwater and energy.
Nor can fish provide any help here. There are signs that the fishing industry (which is already quite energy intensive) has already overfished the oceans in several areas. And fish could never play a major role in the world's diet anyway; the entire global fish catch of the world, if divided among all the world's inhabitants would only amount to a few ounces of fish per person per week.
In short, the idea of feeding everyone on a meat-centered diet is absurd. Even if we resort to extreme methods of population control: abortion, infanticide, genocide, etc...modest increases in the world population would make it impossible to maintain current levels of meat consumption. On a vegetarian diet, however, the world could easily support a population several times its present size. The world's cattle alone consume enough to feed over 8.7 billion humans.
entelechy
i think your father is to be commended. he taught you well and you made an informed decision.
In another thread, somebody said that HWB was worried about overpopulation. If that's true, to his credit he realized there was a problem there. He's however guilty by association when he doesn't tell his son that there are more humane ways of birth control than killing people.
This article is very well argued; it's unreal to me that progressives are not vegans, at least in the first world. This article is good, but I'm even more taken with the environmental argument. It's worth noting that if you are really worried about killing plants, you'd do them a favor by eating them directly, rather than by cycling them through animals--it takes 20 calories of dead plants to get 1 calore from a dead animal, which is the ultimate in wastefulness.
The vast majority of the calories consumed by a chicken, pig, cow, or other animal goes into keeping that animal alive, and once you also add to that the calories required to create the bits of the animal that we don't eat (bone, feathers, blood), you find that it takes about 20 calories of feed into an animal to get one calorie back out in the form of edible fat or muscle. That is, it's twenty times more efficient to eat the grains, soy, or oats directly, rather than to feed them to farmed animals so that we can eat those animals.
Can you imagine ever, even once, taking 19 plates of spaghetti or 19 bowls of rice and tossing them in the trash? That's what eating meat represents—it's like throwing away 19 units of food for every unit you consume. By definition, someone who does this is not an environmentalist.
But it gets worse: E, the respected environmental magazine, noted in 2002 that more than one-third of all fossil fuels produced in the United States are used to raise animals for food. Think about the fossil fuel required to get dead chickens, pigs, or other animals to the table: (1) to grow massive amounts of corn, grain, and soy (with all the required tilling, irrigation, crop dusters, and so on); (2) to transport (on gas-guzzling, pollution spewing 18-wheelers) all that grain and soy to feed manufacturers; (3) to operate the feed mill (these use massive amounts of resources); (4) to truck the feed to the factory farms; (5) to operate the factory farms; (6) to truck the animals many miles to slaughter; (7) to operate the slaughterhouse; (8) to truck the meat to processing plants; (9) to operate the meat processing plants; (10) to truck the meat to grocery stores; (11) to keep the meat in the refrigerator or frozen section of the stores. Every single stage involves heavy pollution, massive amounts of greenhouse gases, massive amounts of energy, and so on. Obviously, vegan foods require some of this as well, but vegan foods cut out the factory farms, the slaughterhouses, and multiple stages of heavily polluting tractor-trailer trucks, and all the resources (and pollution) represented at each of those stages.
The so-called environmentalist who sneers at the person in the massive SUV is, if he eats meat, doing far more damage to the ozone layer than an entire fleet of SUVs.
When I was a boy my father required me to behead a chicken for dinner, a job I detested more than any other; but he thought it was a natural part of my education. Instead, in later life, I decided to give the animals a break and henceforth refused to pay anyone to do the dirty work necessary to put a tasty burger or fried chicken on my plate - and my health immediately improved as well as my peace of mind.
Let me respond to some of the comments placed by the holy warriors for veganism and against meat eaters
- The last thing needed is to accuse each other when we share, I hope, some very basic concerns. This is all about finding some sense in this world that is so utterly screwed up. The truth is that there are no good solutions, which makes any discussion of the well-intended so difficult.
- Feeding the 6 billion (more than that, we are growing). Yah, we heard that many times. A good idea only entirely unrealistic. Three points about it:
1. The first law of ecology is that the more food is there, the higher is the population of a species. Works like a charm on the human example. More food is not solution and most of us who have any interest in these topics must know it by now.
2. Roughly 80% of us are made from oil (so to speak) and excessively mined soil nutrients by the oil-based food system. When oil goes, so must people. Absolutely cruel, unthinkable but simple logic. Even if anyone switched to vaganism, how much longer will this last? It is just the matter of timing and not of principle.
3. Just realize what has been happening when so many of the "feed the world" advocates so quickly embraced biofuels. Having a choice of driving the car or "feeding the world" what are we choosing? In this context is driving a car or living at our level of consumption ethical?
- All advocates of eating only plant food indirectly endorse our mono-culture industrial agriculture that have been doing ecocide of all various ecosystems and effectively heading towards global destruction. It is not so simple to eat soy and corn products and feel good about it. It is a much bigger issue.
- A statement that all livestock production doesn't make sense from a larger human or ecological perspective is clearly wrong. Surely, the whole industrial system of grain-fed intensive livestock production is. But animals have always been part of any eco-system and praries would not be prairies if not for bison being part of it. It is just the matter how one grazes and how many animals can be raised without damagind ecosystem. Please, don't put it all into one bag.
- Indigenous people. Response didn't refer to what I wrote. Please, pay attention. This was not about ethics of killing animals but about what was central to their life sustaining diets. But when contemplating the cruelty of pre-civilization people, let's remember that the cruelty and pain was differently seen in their cultures then it is in ours (the only one right culture!). They personally were ready to accept much more pain than anybody of us ever would. These were much different cultures that need to be seen in their entirety with objective perspective. But it is not about arguing about their cultures. It is about the place of animals in our biologically defined diets.
When I was a little child, I thought chickens and other species were delightful creatures. I have been a vegetarian for over two years now. Once in a blue moon I have a corn dog, but that's only because I can't find a vegetarian hot dog that tastes good. I feel a bit guilty afterwards.
I've read that if people would quit eating meat, wars would cease. It seems we absorb the anger from being killed from the animal's flesh after we eat it. Meat eaters are more aggressive than vegetarians, I've heard.
If not eating meat would prevent war, I'm for it.
I agree with kelmer as well. "Indigenous people" are not an example to follow. I've been a vegetarian my whole life and a vegan for seven years; it is what is best for the environment, best for land usage, and best for my own health. We need to grow our food directly in beautiful gardens and orchards, not fill vast amounts of land wastefully with dull grass.
Within the balance of the Natural World predation is necessary to prevent overpopulation. But human greed is grossly OVERpopulating and destroying this biosphere Earth nobody can live without. It is suicidal madness.
kelmer August 4th, 2007 2:21 pm
Completely agree.
Thanks for the link.
Bobus August 4th, 2007 12:41 pm
2. If we talk about sustainable food production
Although I regret to admit that I have not yet been able to convert to veganism I must take issue.
Raising cattle for consumption is a non sequitur. It produces negative returns in all but financial profit. It is another example of the very few profiting at the expense of the many.
As expected-irrational defensive responses from the meat eaters who claim to be for social justice.
Here's the reality:
A)You cannot feed 6 billion people with livestock unless they are locked up in factory farms. Creating new pasture lands and new water supplies for tens of billions of livestock aint gonna do unless you love deforestation and wildlife destruction(look what happened to wolves and buffalo thanks to ranching). Its basic math.
B)Saying animals have always been a part of food production is erroneous--by such reasoning we should just accept child abuse-it has always existed too-as long as humans breed we will have people beating their children. Ditto for war.
C)Traditional farms are cruel. Factory farming didnt exist in Tolstoy's day--in fact--he was a hunter so he understood killing better than most. Killing when you dont have to is cruel. Period.
D)Healthy indigenous cultures--the noble savage myth. Plains indians used to drive herds of buffalo off cliffs-the term buffalo jump comes from this--and leave them crippled to die. They only took what they needed. The Makah whalers kept human slaves--and forced them to do dangerous fin tying. Please--lets get rid of this romantic notion that somehow everything was paradise back then. Just because one group of humans came along and exploited another group of humans doesnt mean the group being exploited were saints.
E) You cannot respect animals when you kill them by choice not need.
F) Plants are alive--but what about fruit? Ever hear of fruitarianism? You dont need to kill plants to be a healthy non meat eater--but for the sake of argument--let's say its unavoidable--so we have to kill something to survive. So by your dubious logic--since we cant avoid some form of killing we shouldnt even try right? We should just eat animals too? But why stop there?
Humans have been preying on other humans for just as long as we have been eating other animals--so why try to curb that natural behaviour too? its part of the Natural order just as much as meat eating is and you cannot prove otherwise. Rape, homocide, theft, child abuse, war--its all natural too.
This is what destroys the human supremacist-"meat eating is ethical" argument.
It nukes it.
Because...Racial and religious supremacists use the same reasoning as human supremacists--they believe their group as they define it is superior to all others--based on arbitrary standards of value conveniently determined by them--who stand to benefit from the discrimination. White supremacists believe christian whites are better than other groups--according to God and nature.
But human supremacists are saying--hey! Dont discriminate based on race or religion! Do it on the basis of dna--because that's what really matters. But that's just as arbitrary as skin colour. Nature doesnt care--the universe doesnt regard humans as superior--if we were--then volcanos would surely not be able to spew lava onto us--and sharks would get paralyses when they try to bite a human swimmer--because our superiority would have to be obvious--inherent--demonstrable in Nature. But it isnt.
Human supremacists dont want to accept REALITY--that humans preying on other humans is natural--but they whine like babies when it is pointed out that they are just as mortal as other life--and this idea of Lower" and "higher" lifeforms is a laugh--we all die dont we? I doubt very much a maggot tastes the difference between a PHD and a high school drop out.
Being vegetarian is simply taking a more consistent form of ethics to its natural conclusion--trying to be as compassionate and as fair as possible as opposed to the alternative--which is serial killer anti-social selfishness. Which most people would not support. Its practical ethics.
The "humane" meat movement is dangerous--because it is similar to what you have with cockfighting. imagine if someone said we shouldnt try to ban cockfighting--we should instead try to develop spurs that are less sharp so the roosters dont hurt themsevles as much when they are forced to fight each other(another byproduct of livestock agriculture along with rodeos and bullfights--all examples of respecting nature according to their supporters).
One thing Friederich has wrong though--the biggest problem with "humane" meat is the word humane, which is a human supremacist term. It implies that being kind and good is a "human" quality--while suggesting that to be wicked is inhumane--or nonhuman. Just another example of infantile human arrogance--humans are the most wicked animals on the planet. I have never heard of cats creating arenas to watch other cats playing with mice. Compare that to what they did in the Roman Colliseum--where you could watch people being forced to fight each other--men, women, children, blind people. When it comes to cruelty humans are definitely the best at it.
Meat eating will only stop en masse when humans have destroyed the ecology to the point where they cannot sustain it. But the plus side is that war and child abuse and other forms of human vs human injustice will continue as well--because Nature doesnt play favorites. Some humans may want to deny they are part of Nature--but as Poe wrote, the play is the tragedy man, its hero, the Conqueror Worm.
Every possible argument on this topic can be found here:
http://animalvegfaq.tripod.com
If killing animals is the objection then why does the author mention eggs and milk (and I assume milk products like cheese) along with meat??
so, if i understand, i can only be a vegetarian by subscribing to Bruce Friedrich's way of thinking.
Oh ffs, don't you people understand that plants are living beings too? It's been shown time and time again that plants have some reaction to what we would consider suffering, but because they don't have eyes to look into like we do, it just doesn't matter? Foolish, that's as human-centric of a concept as any cattle ranch.
Us higher order life forms MUST consume OTHER LIVING THINGS to survive? Is it fair? Irrelevant, complain to nature if you don't like it, but I can't find a suggestion box.
It's like xenophobia, we don't give a shit about the plants because they are too different from us to matter. We can only care about the animals because they are enough like us to build and empathy bond, but that bond is hallow if you don't realize it's only there because they are similar enough to us and wouldn't be if were were built differently.
In short, if you REALLY feel that you cannot cause any suffering through your food consumption, start eating rocks, and hope you find one that magically is able to sustain you, because you're BUILT to destroy life in order to sustain your own. I'm sorry to be so blunt about it, but it's the absolute truth.
If Bruce Friedrich would confine his remarks to the proper treatment of animals and stop the ridulous nonsense that we do not need meat and we are eating dead corpses he mught get farther. I guess all seafood and birds are off limits also.I have raised both grain and cattle all of my life and took the best care of animals under my control. It is unfortunate that factory farms have come into existence both for the animals and also for the people that can no longer take care of them the way nature intended. We cannot stop all cruelty however as when one animal, bird, or fish eats another it is not a pretty sight. His efforts for ethical treatment are proper concerns but let`s not disrespect people who raise animals for food and include meat in their diet. I would personally rather raise grain to feed animals for food than for supplying fuel for large gas guzzling vehicles. Those vegetables we love are also dead after they are harvested for food so maybe we should all exist on some kind of power packed artificial pills. The world is a violent place and we should first concern ourselves with proper treatment of humans, and secondly with doing what we can for the animals well-being. It is not ethical to have many people including children without enough food of any kind to eat, much less a good balanced diet.
This is a huge and loaded topic but not as simple on many fronts as presented by vegans. I am also, as the author is, deeply concerned with all these issues but let me make a few basic points:
1. It is absolutely true that cruelty that is extended to animals in our food system is unexcusable and appalling but...
2. If we talk about sustainable food production shucking corn will not do. A sustainable farm production can be only accomplished with a combination of small mixed, synergistic farms that always involve livestock and pastures. Animals have been and always be part of the cycle of food production. And if you look at vast areas of semi-arid land as Canadian prairies, they will best produce food if returned to their original pasture state.
3. Healthy indigenous cultures always had their special dense foods that were absolutely essential for their health and for producing strong, healthy children. These were always of animal origin, just check Weston Price Foundation, it is an eye opener. It is hard to deny the presented findings, even by vegans. http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html
4. It is true that most of us cannot even watch slaughter (I admit, I can't). But this is more about our alienation from reality than any inborn reactions. For those who farm the traditional way, this is absolutely no issue and they are not cruel people who most often show great respect and appreciation of their livestock. We just lost it.
5. The whole Nature is about one species eating another. Sure, some eat only plants but that is not the point because our biological makeup makes our omnivorous and not plant eaters.
What is missing from our food picture is RESPECT for animals. A difficult thing to find in our hearts if we hardly have respect for other people. Isn't it true that since these animals are in our care, we owe them good life? Not necessary long (the motion that any individual life must be extended at any price is our cultural invention), but good.
There are some ethical options for meat eaters, I think. Is it wrong to eat meat from an animal that spent its whole healthy life on pasture, capable of displaying its natural behaviours and then humanly slaughtered (possibly by a mobile slaughter plant)?
Each one of us may start the process with making such commitment. It may not be perfect solution but we don't live in a perfect world. And there is one more thing. There is a difference between eating meat as a special food that has our high respect and loading in hamburgers twice a day.
Get more interested with food options that may be present or you may help to build with small scale local pastured livestock. You may not only address your ethical concerns regarding animal welfare but help building lifeboats for the future in even more important aspects of our lives (localization of food supply, sustainable agriculture, helping survive the very few real farmers that are still left, etc.) Never mind eating truly healthy foods to help your own health. But connection of all these issues with our dear health is another story. One even bigger and less understood.
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vasurmurti,
Nice essay, but unfortunately you left out the part that many primates (chimps, baboons, etc...) eat meat on a regular basis.
This arguments that say "primates do this, therefore we should be doing it" don't wash as far as I am concerned The premise is wrong.
We humans are free to do what we want. Its all a personal choice. We have to accept that and decide for ourselves how we want to treat our bodies.
IF a person is a logical sort, he or she might decided to look at how we are made internally, and make a choice regarding diet:
Argueably fruit, vegetables and grains are very good.
But, as has been already said - meat can be digested as long as it is preserved and cooked properly.
Therefore the "health" arguement (be vegetarian because its healthier) seems to be questionable.
To say that "I am a vegetarian and I feel better" is fine for you. I know people who have lived to be over 90 and ate a traditional diet and I would argue clean air and water is what did it.
Anyway I look at it, the root thinking of this article, and most of the radical vegan responses, is purely religious in nature. It has all the markers:
1) an absolute certainty that "I am right and everyone else is wrong"
2) absolute intolerance for anyone holding a contrary view.
3) an urge to go out to the "unconverted" and preach how killing all animals is wrong and that eating no meat is healthier.
What scares me is what could come next. Radical religious type belief systems are responsible for most of the genocide, wars and destruction on this earth.
PETA has become such a orgazination of freaks, the FBI is monitoring them, considering PETAs connections to the known terrorist organization, the ALF (Animal Liberation Front - the ones that blow things up).
PETA forced R&D to stop on a cure for AIDS, this year, because a dozen monkeys might have died in the testing. 45 Million people thank you for that one PETA.
I just don't get these violent, agressive, cult like PETA people. Let the Humane Society do their work and stop running around stroking the emotions of clueless American housewives, with emotional pictures of cute furry animals.
The more the Left is saturated with PETA Crazy's, like BruceF the Author here, the harder it's going to be to get the Republicans out.
Humans had to eat meat to survive the last ice age - that when we got started. It's an ancient habit!
It'd be very helpful to members of both the human and animal kingdoms if everyone had the simple facts at hand- that could help them to make more informed decisions.
It would also significantly upset the status quo, requiring meat workers, heart surgeons, & restaurants to find other lines of work.
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Consider that:
1) The human digestive system has everything in common with those of non-canivores animals (horses, bulls, cows) and is characterized by flat teeth and a long intestional tract.
2) The digestive system of carnivores (cats, lions, tigers) have short intestional tracts and sharp teeth.
Putrid, rotting dead animal flesh passes very quickly out of the short intestine of a cat, but it passes very slowly - unnaturally out of the long intestine of human beings.
I believe that most cattle ranchers and people in the dead animal flesh business are republicans who love G.W. Bush.
It seems that most people who are open minded enough to consider all the facts, who reduce or eliminate meat from the diets will feel much better as a result.
http://www.meat.org/
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Any non-organic veggies and vegans who read this - are encouraged to GO ORGANIC and to avoid non-local, heavily processed foods. Stop supporting manufacturers of pesticides, preservatives, and other harmful chemicals!
You deserve organic! It will become the norm.
"Organic farms do not release synthetic pesticides into the environment — some of which have the potential to harm local wildlife.
Organic farms are better than conventional farms at sustaining diverse ecosystems, i.e., populations of plants and insects, as well as animals.
When calculated either per unit area or per unit of yield, organic farms use less energy and produce less waste, e.g., waste such as packaging materials for chemicals."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_foods
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Certainly we could stand considerably less meat in the average American diet. Even if we do not all go to a 100% Vegan or Vegetarian diet, most Americans eat 10 times more meat than is healthy for them. There is plenty of great healthy food.
Besides the animal rights aspect of this, there is the environmental impact. It takes much less land to grow food for people than it does to grow food for animals for people so the people can then eat the animals.
I've been vegetarian since 1982. I attended my first anti-vivisection protest outside the biology building at UC San Diego, in the spring of 1985, when anti-apartheid demonstrations were taking place on our campus.
I first got interested in promoting vegetarianism in mainstream society after reading John Robbins' Diet for a New America (1987). Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, it makes veganism seem as reasonable and mainstream as recycling.
For example: half the water consumed in the U.S. goes to irrigate land growing feed and fodder for livestock. Huge amounts of water are also used to wash away their excrement. U.S. livestock produce twenty times as much excrement as does the entire human population; creating sewage which is ten to several hundred times more concentrated than raw domestic sewage.
Animal wastes cause ten times more water pollution than does the U.S. human population; the meat industry causes three times as much harmful organic water pollution than the rest of the nation's industries combined. Meat producers are the number one industrial polluters in our nation, contributing to half the water pollution in the United States.
Joanna Macy, author of Despair and Personal Power in the Nuclear Age, depicts the advantages of America moving towards a vegan diet in her foreword to Diet for a New America:
"The effects on our physical health are immediate. The incidence of cancer and heart attack, the nation's biggest killers, drops precipitously. So do many other diseases now demonstrably and causally linked to consumption of animal proteins and fats, such as osteoporosis...
"The social, ecological, and economic consequences, as we Americans turn away from animal food products, are equally remarkable. We find that the grain we previously fed to fatten livestock can now feed five times the U.S. population; so we have become able to alleviate malnutrition and hunger on a worldwide scale...
"The great forests of the world, that we had been decimating for grazing purposes, begin to grow again. Oxygen-producing trees are no longer sacrificed for cholesterol-producing steaks.
"The water crisis eases. As we stop raising and grinding up cattle for hamburgers, we discover that ranching and farm factories had been the major drain on our water resources. The amount now available for irrigation and hydroelectric power doubles.
"Meanwhile, the change in diet frees over 90% of the fossil fuel previously used to produce food. With this liberation of water energy and fossil fuel energy, our reliance on oil imports declines, as does the rationale for building nuclear power plants..."
Joanna Macy goes on to admit, "This scenario is wildly, absurdly utopian. It is also clearly the way we are meant to live, built to live." What could possibly make it a reality? "It is this very book!"
Paul McCartney also says, "If anyone wants to save the planet, all they have to do is just stop eating meat. That's the single most important thing you could do. It's staggering when you think about it. Vegetarianism takes care of so many things in one shot: ecology, famine, cruelty. Let's do it! Linda was right. Going veggie is the single best idea for the new century."
When I first read Diet for a New America, I thought it could have the same kind of impact on mainstream American society that Frances Moore Lappe's Diet for a Small Planet had in the '70s.
The number of animals killed for food in the United States is 70 times larger than the number of animals killed in laboratories, 30 times larger than the number killed by hunters and trappers, and 500 times larger than the number of animals killed in pounds.
A fellow animal activist in San Diego, Tricia Fernatt, felt as I did: since the vast majority of animals are being killed for food, why are we wasting our time on peripheral issues? Shouldn't veganism be the main focus of our movement?
And Diet for a New America tied it all together. The Worldwatch Institute estimates that if Americans reduced their meat consumption by just 10 percent, it would release enough grain and soybeans to feed over 60 million people.
In writing his expose on the meat industry, John Robbins has been compared to Rachel Carson, Ralph Nader and other whistleblowers. In Diet for a New America, he demonstrates how all the various causes that concern the left: skyrocketing health care costs, a sustainable energy policy, hunger, malnutrition, etc. are all taken care of in one fell swoop by a vegan diet.
I had the opportunity to meet John Robbins in September 1988. It was one of the most inspirational moments of my life!
He was heir to the Baskin-Robbins fortune. He renounced it at a young age. He traveled to India, opened a yoga ashram in Canada, etc. He spoke of Gandhi and nonviolence. His son Ocean Robbins founded Youth for Environmental Sanity (YES!) and is also dedicated to promoting veganism.
I asked John if he would try and get the American Left to support animal rights. He told me that he had sent a copy of his book to Mother Jones, a left-liberal periodical published in San Francisco.
Many on the Left are beginning to take a stand in favor of animal rights. Joanna Macy spoke at the San Francisco Green Festival, in November 2005. In his 1990 updated and revised edition of Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes that many of the political parties leaning towards the "Green" end of the political spectrum in Europe were beginning to oppose animal experimentation.
John Robbins elaborated further on the economic waste of raising animals for food in May All Be Fed, which my brother gave me for Christmas in 1992. Oxfam, the international charity, reports that in Mexico, 80 percent of the children in rural areas are undernourished, yet the livestock are fed more grain than the human population eats!
Meat consumption in Taiwan increased 600 percent between 1950 and 1990. In 1950, Taiwan was a grain exporter; in 1990 the nation imported, mostly for feed, 74 percent of the grain it used. Twenty-five years ago, Syria was a barley exporter. But in the intervening years, livestock have consumed increasing amounts of the country's grain. Now, despite a phenomenal 1000 percent increase in the land area devoted to producing barley, Syria must import the cereal.
John Robbins spoke before the United Nations in 1994, where he received a standing ovation.
The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) now encourages vegetarianism, the banning of fur, and the eventual end to all animal research, not just "cruel" animal research. The Humane Society now supports vegetarianism.
With allies in both political parties and across the ideological spectrum, the animal rights movement has been able to score some great successes, regardless of which party controls the White House or Capitol Hill.
In the mid-1990s, Vegetarian Times reported that the animal rights movement is now a permanent part of the American political landscape.
In a 1995 issue of Harmony: Voices for a Just Future, a "consistent ethic" periodical on the religious left, Catholic civil rights actiivists Bernard and Rose Mae Broussard of Starthrowers wrote that wars in the human kingdom will never cease until we end our war on the animal kingdom.
I had the opportunity to hear John Robbins speak at a Unitarian church here in Oakland, CA several years ago. The church was PACKED! John writes in The Food Revolution (2001):
"The revolution sweeping our relationship to our food and our world, I believe, is part of an historical imperative. This is what happens when the human spirit is activated.
"One hundred and fifty years ago, slavery was legal in the United States. One hundred years ago, women could not vote in most states. Eighty years ago, there were no laws in the United States against any form of child abuse. Fifty years ago, we had no Civil Rights Act, no Clean Air or Clean Water legislation, no Endangered Species Act.
"Today, millions of people are refusing to buy clothes and shoes made in sweatshops and are seeking to live healthier and more Earth-friendly lifestyles. In the last fifteen years alone, as people in the United States have realized how cruelly veal calves are treated, veal consumption has dropped 62 percent."
As PETA pamphlets from the '80s used to say, "A nonviolent philosophy begins at breakfast." Factory farming IS diabolical. "Humane slaughter" IS an oxymoron. I commend Bruce and PETA for taking a stand against animal cruelty. To become a vegetarian or a vegan is to carry the campaign against "cruelty to animals" to its logical conclusion.