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The President Won't Fire Alberto Gonzales. He Needs Him to Protect White House Secrets, Including The Scheming Roles of Cheney and Rove.
Omertà(or a code of silence) has become the final bond holding the Bush administration together. Honesty is dishonorable; silence is manly; penitence is weakness. Loyalty trumps law. Protecting higher-ups is patriotism. Stonewalling is idealism. Telling the truth is informing. Cooperation with investigators is cowardice; breaking the code is betrayal. Once the code is shattered, however, no one can be trusted and the entire edifice crumbles.
If Attorney General Alberto Gonzales were miraculously to tell the truth, or if he were to resign or be removed, the secret government of the past six years would be unlocked. So long as a Republican Congress rigorously engaged in enforcing no oversight was smugly complicit through its passive ignorance and abdication of constitutional responsibility, the White House was secure in enacting its theories of the imperial presidency. An executive bound only by his self-proclaimed fiat in his capacity as commander in chief became his own law in authorizing torture and warrantless domestic wiretapping and data mining. Following the notion of the unitary executive, in which the departments and agencies have no independent existence under the president, the White House has relentlessly politicized them. Callow political appointees dictate to scientists, censoring or altering their conclusions. Career staff professionals are forced to attend indoctrination sessions on the political strategies of the Republican Party in campaigns and elections. And U.S. attorneys, supposedly impartial prosecutors representing the Department of Justice in the states, are purged if they deviate in any way from the White House's political line.
Last week, for example, the Washington Post reported that William R. Steiger, director of the Office of Global Health Affairs in the Department of Health and Human Services, suppressed the 2006 "Call to Action on Global Health" report of U.S. Surgeon General Richard Carmona, which explained the connection of poverty to health and urged that attacking diseases become a major U.S. international commitment. Steiger, who has no credentials in the field, is the son of a former congressman who was Vice President Cheney's earliest patron, giving Cheney his first congressional job as a staff intern. At the White House's behest, Steiger acts as a micromanaging political commissar. His insistence on approving every single overseas appointee of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has left many of its posts empty. "Only 166 of the CDC's 304 overseas positions in 53 countries are filled," the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported in April. "At least 85 positions likely will remain unfilled until 2008." Such is the theory of the unitary executive in action.
Just this week, Jeffrey Toobin wrote in the New Yorker about the suspicion that fell on the U.S. attorney in Washington state, John McKay, who was fired in the wholesale purge because of his interest in devoting full resources to an investigation of the murder of an assistant U.S. attorney, Tom Wales, who had been a prominent local advocate of gun control. On July 31, the U.S. attorney in Roanoke, Va., John Brownlee, testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee that the night before a guilty verdict was delivered in his case against the drug manufacturing company that produced OxyContin, he received a call from a Justice Department official asking him to slow down his prosecution.
On Wednesday, Bush prepared to invoke executive privilege to protect his senior political aide, Karl Rove, and Rove's deputy, J. Scott Jennings, from testifying before Congress on the firing of the U.S. attorneys. Bush has already covered his chief of staff, Josh Bolten, and former counsel Harriet Miers with executive privilege to prevent their testimony. The House Judiciary Committee responded by citing both for contempt of Congress, which requires action by the U.S. attorney of the District of Columbia. But the Justice Department has declared that it will thwart that process, in effect rendering the nation's system of justice a political arm of the executive.
Bush has steadfastly refused to fire Attorney General Gonzales, even though Gonzales' former chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, directly contradicted Gonzales' testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee that he knew nothing about the purge of U.S. attorneys and by documentation that Gonzales' claim that they were dismissed for "performance" was a politically contrived excuse. In protecting Gonzales, Bush is shielding the true author of the purge -- Rove, who informed and received the approval of Bush himself.
Last week, after Gonzales had testified for the second time before Congress that there was no internal dissent against the authorization of warrantless domestic spying, FBI Director Robert Mueller testified before Congress that Gonzales' statement was false and offered himself as proof of someone who had opposed the program that Gonzales said had won universal support. James Comey, the deputy attorney general in Bush's first term, had described the now-infamous "Enzo the Baker" scene of March 2004, when Comey, serving as acting attorney general, and Mueller rushed to a Washington hospital to intercept then White House counsel Gonzales, who tried to browbeat Attorney General John Ashcroft, drugged and in pain after emergency surgery, into signing his approval of the wiretapping. Ashcroft refused. Comey confronted President Bush on the program's illegality and it was modified. Yet, in his latest testimony, Gonzales not only contradicted Comey's version but also claimed that the operation was about "other intelligence activities."
Gonzales' unashamed performance prompted senators to demand that the second-ranking Justice Department official, Solicitor General Paul Clement, appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Gonzales' potential perjury, and members of the House to file a resolution asking the Judiciary Committee to launch impeachment proceedings.
The mystery surrounding Gonzales' position deepened with the bizarre attempted defense of Gonzales offered by Michael McConnell, director of national intelligence, who sent a letter Tuesday to Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., explaining that the warrantless wiretapping was part of a much larger surveillance program authorized by a single executive order of the president. If this is true, then Gonzales' past efforts to describe the policy as narrow and relatively small are false. This defense, therefore, provided grist for further incrimination and failed to shine any light on Gonzales' patently misleading testimony.
Gonzales is a unique figure of disrepute in the history of the Justice Department, a cipher, enabler and useful idiot who was nonetheless indispensable in the rise of his patron and whose survival is elemental to that of the administration. Warren G. Harding's attorney general, Harry Daugherty, trailing accusations of bribery for which he was never indicted, resigned after Harding's death. Daugherty had been one of Harding's creators as the Republican Party chairman of Ohio. Two of Richard Nixon's attorneys general resigned in disgrace during the Watergate scandal, both significant political men: John Mitchell, Nixon's former law partner and campaign chairman, and Richard Kleindienst, an important player in the Barry Goldwater wing of the Republican Party of Arizona.
Gonzales earned the gratitude and indebtedness of Bush in 1996, when he enabled him to escape jury duty in Travis County, Texas, on the attenuated argument that as governor he might find himself in a conflict of interest in the future when considering a clemency or pardon. In fact, Bush's worry was filling out the juror's form that required listing arrests. By avoiding acknowledgement of his drunken-driving violation, Bush maintained his political viability. Grants of clemency and pardons never bothered Bush again. Of the 152 people condemned to execution in Texas during his tenure, the most under any governor in modern American history, he indulged in not a single act of clemency. His counsel, Alberto Gonzales, briefed him on 57 of these cases, and "repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence," according to a study published by the Atlantic.
As White House counsel, Gonzales served as a figurehead and rubber stamp for the radical views of Cheney and the legal neoconservatives on questions of executive power ranging from torture to domestic spying. Gonzales routinely signed the memos written by John Yoo and other ideologues and pushed the executive orders drawn up by Cheney's counsel, David Addington, on to the president for his signature.
Though Gonzales has nary a shred of credibility, even among Republican senators, his continued existence as attorney general is necessary to the preservation of the Bush White House. He is the firewall for Rove -- who issued his ultimate marching orders in the U.S. attorney firings -- and Bush. So Bush adamantly stands by him, covering Rove and the others with executive privilege.
Bush cannot afford to have Gonzales resign or be removed. Gonzales' leaving would ratchet up the administration's political crisis to an intense level. Bush could not nominate a replacement without responding to the Senate Judiciary Committee's inevitable request for information on every matter that he has attempted to keep secret. On every unresolved and electrified issue the Senate would demand documents -- the entire cache on the development of policy since 2001 on torture, the gutting of the Civil Rights Division, the U.S. attorneys and much more. Only Gonzales' perpetuation in office holds back the deluge.
Yet there is still another opening for Congress to explore that only became apparent in an editorial published in the New York Times on July 29. After observing that in March 2004 "the Justice Department refused to endorse a continuation of the wiretapping program because it was illegal," the Times revealed, almost in passing, "Unwilling to accept that conclusion, Vice President Dick Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales and another official to Mr. Ashcroft's hospital room to get him to approve the wiretapping."
"Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales ... "
This disclosure had not previously appeared anywhere else in print, including the news pages of the Times. Yet the Times' editorial page published it as indisputable fact. On Tuesday, the guest on CNN's "Larry King Live" was none other than Vice President Cheney. King asked Cheney about the Times' report about his order to Gonzales. "I don't recall," replied Cheney in a classic nondenial denial. "That would be something you would recall," King continued. "I would think so," said Cheney. "But certainly I was involved because I was a big advocate of the Terrorist Surveillance Program."
But under what authority did the vice president give this order to the then White House counsel? That is not a matter for editorial writers, but for Congress.
The Office of the Vice President has the most limited legal and constitutional power over the Justice Department. It can have input on an extremely narrow range of political policies, but absolutely none in operational matters. Yet the Times reports that Cheney sent Gonzales to pressure the attorney general to sign off on warrantless wiretaps. Why would a White House counsel act on a vice president's orders? And what else did Cheney's office do to influence the Justice Department over the past six years? Nothing is known beyond that one line in the Times.
We know nothing about the domestic wiretapping program, especially if it is as extensive as National Intelligence Director McConnell suggests. Only a congressional investigation can settle suspicions. When he was a congressman, Cheney notoriously defended the conduct of Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair as an aspect of executive power of which he approved. After North testified before the joint congressional committee investigating the scandal, Cheney declared that he was "the most effective and impressive witness certainly this committee has heard." In the minority report on Iran-Contra written under Cheney's aegis, the congressional role in overseeing foreign policy was contemptuously dismissed: "If they interfere with the core presidential foreign policy functions, they should be struck down." In the theoretical discussion of his view of the executive, it may be forgotten that North, whom he so passionately defended, had gotten the Washington field office of the FBI to wiretap the sources of the congressional investigators who were probing his activities. Fawn Hall, North's secretary, at his March 1989 trial delivered a line that summarized the entire affair and presciently anticipated certain Bush administration policies. "Sometimes you have to go above the law."
Now, in light of the Times' revelation of Cheney's order to Gonzales, the relevant committees of Congress are justified in requesting or subpoenaing documents from the Justice Department about the intrusion of the Office of the Vice President into domestic legal matters. The trail of what happened from 2001 to the present will be visible, to the extent it remains a record, embedded in e-mail communications and memorandums from the OVP to the Justice Department or in internal memos referring to such communications. Requesting them from the department end rather than the White House makes any claim of executive privilege hollow regarding departments or agencies outside the White House itself. The Justice Department has already cooperated with Congress in turning over documents. Why would it suddenly now refuse?
If executive privilege were to be applied in this instance to the Justice Department, then the unitary theory of government in which all power resides in a single vessel, a great Decider, would render the Constitution's grant of powers to three branches of government defunct.
Even Nixon, in asserting executive privilege in the heat of the Watergate scandal, did not claim that it applied to decisions made in the Justice Department. Attorney General John Mitchell, found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice, could not be protected from prosecution for his part in what he called the "White House horrors."
Dick Cheney, the greatest exponent of the Nixonian concept of the presidency, more successful than Nixon, has usurped in his grasp of executive power even command of domestic legal policy. But we have seen only a flicker of a shadow of his power. And Bush knows that Rove, too, has played puppet master. Losing Gonzales would raise the curtain on this era's "White House horrors." So Bush throws executive privilege over everyone he can. The yes man has become the indispensable man.
-Sydney Blumenthal
© 2007 Salon.com
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Show AllNobody seems to know or care that the real power behind the criminal Neocons is the International Jew. They direct almost everything the US Govt does. Henry Ford (of the famed Model T) wrote a book about this many years ago which is as true today as it was then. These shadowy figures are pulling all the strings. Investigate the number of Jewish advisors the Bush administration has. Their real loyalty is to Israel and to building up obscene wealth for themselves and the Bush clique. I name companies like Goldman Sachs as conspiritors in the rape of the American People.
Great article. Demand your Congressman support HR 333 Rep. Kucinich's bill to impeach the president of vice Dick Cheney.
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Let's go silent.
Let's go stand in silence -- no silly chants, no fatalistic "We deserve them," and no pleading with Congress members.
Let's put our bodies where words have failed.
Let's remember embodiment and incarnation, mere being and presence.
Let's go stand...anywhere...in silence, sign-less and anonymous, and wordlessly look within.
Let's find out where truth waits noiselessly.
What do you don't say?
In many ways the unfolding tragedy which is our lot has been foreseen, and we have been warned. The single most important underlying issue continues to be our addiction to scarce petrochemicals. A great many countries have more liberal and enlightened populations and laws, and these are just those which have maintained a modicum of social welfare safety nets and public transportation options, for instance. We have been suckered into an untenable situation by cheap fuel and a refusal to deeply care about the folks who simply don't have the skills we need right now in our cheap-oil, mechanized nightmare/utopia.. The only thing for us now is to suffer some sort of general collapse, pay our karmic debt, and call a new constitutional convention..............Hey we are the first people in history to watch the dissolution of an empire on color TV....Rejoice.....
I'm not so sure taht these guys are nearing an "ignominious conclusion." It is beginning to appear that they may not be planning on leaving in 2008.
To bill113069,punishing this group of Neos'will never be a waste of time or money, NOT punishing them will allow them (and the others hidden behind them)access to come back into power years down the line. Investigate and impeach ALL who deserve it.
I love the stooges years ago, still do!
"Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales . .?" Cheney? He's not even in the executive branch. I know it's true because he said so himself.
To compare the Stooges to the present administration is nothing short of slander. When did the Stooges ever advocate the bombing of Iran? Who did the Stooges ever wiretap? Shame on you, Mr. Blumenthal.
Congress just needs to shake the tree until one of the rotten fruits falls. The public will get behind one of investigations. Pressure is building the Repubs must keep backing away from Bu$h the inferior or they are done politically.
how to end the apathy??
I'm shocked at your disrespect and dishonor you've given to these 3 great American's.
These gentlemen should be praised and not treated as a political cartoon.
It is these 3 individuals, who have continually supported the working class, with their economic class difference statements......
How could you insult these fine, fine, fine gentlemen; Larry Fine, Mo Howard and Jerome (Curly) Howard, The Three Stooges? Huh?
It is the Stooges who have ridiculed the rich, the bohemian bobo's, the hoi poloi, the hifalutin and their values.
It is inexcusable to associate the aforementioned (Gonzales, Rove and Cheney) seedy, corrupt and immoral characters, with The Three Stooges.
Those that are oppressed by authority, the poor and children revere the Stooges.
Thanks you for your worthy article and attention.
"This too shall pass".
yknot,
I see the humor. Lemme take a guess: the Democrats and Republicans??
The three stooges analogy doesn't work for me.
The stooges, were, um, stooges. Cheney, Rove and Gonzales are all brilliant men who don't seem to do anything without being vividly conscious of what they are doing, including the consequences of the choices they make.
Bush is the stooge, I'm thinking. Oh, he thinks he's the decider but he's the moron.
stooge (stūj) pronunciation
n.
1. The partner in a comedy team who feeds lines to the other comedian; a straight man.
2. One who allows oneself to be used for another's profit or advantage; a puppet.
Well, now that I looked up 'stooge', I can concede that maybe Gonzales is a stooge, a puppet. But Cheney and Rove pull the strings, they are nobody's puppets.
Thank you for providing coverage of these days when the U.S. Constitution is in Crisis. The people know we are in crisis and expect the full truth to come out. But we need the help of true patriots as yourself to speak up. There are the minions who daily know the inside scoop. Someday, when all is known and history calls these the darkest days of our Democratic nation, those who held back and did not come forward to speak will have to bear the shame of their time "serving" the criminals in the Whitehouse and the other departments that are controlled by the Whitehouse.
The time to speak up is now. Mr. Blumenthal awaits your call.
For at least two years, I have supported the impeachment and removal of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney but, now, as the administration's second term lurches embarrassingly to its ignominious conclusion, I realize that the implementation and execution of such proceedings would be a waste of time and money. This does not mean I feel any less disdain for them, nor has my acute shame abated for a country that would allow two archvillains to fundamentally alter American doctrines and values as well as to complete the quintet of Opus Deists on the Supreme Court, a consummation that heralds the end of abortion rights and the separation of church and state.
Congress should, and most likely will not, aggressively pursue charges against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who has displayed a contemptible disregard for both law and truth, and a slobbering devotion to an individual that would make Clyde Tolson or a black Labrador blush. As for Bush and Cheney, the best we can hope for-since here as in most countries, high officials are never punished for their crimes- is that they slink off the scene into a richly deserved disgrace.
I don't think "our system" will ever get better. It certainly can get worse.
No degree of "yes men" will save us from the on-going corruption of our noble experiment. We must, somehow, start over.
That a Corporation should be seen as a person, might be a good place to start. It seems to me to be just another "damned piece of paper."
Whoah there compadres!!!!
A Republican led Congress impeaches a sitting Democratic President, whose only guilt was or is it IS lying about being serviced in a pseudo-sexual relationship by a female under his desk during a period of several months [which believe it or not was even a surprise to the Misses when she heard about it].
At the present a Democrat led Congress does not have the balls to at least attempt impeachment proceedings against the liars and cheats of a Republican administration but engages in snipes and snide remarks.
As a non-neocon as well as a non-chickenhawk one is left to ask "naively" who are the "funniest left still standing".
Unfortunately the Democrats will probably not pursue the interesting points Mr. Blumenthal has raised. They're there to protect the Republicans, not destroy them. As soon as the U.S. attorney scandal threatens to go beyond the hapless Alberto "Fujimori" Gonzalez, the Democrats will wind it up. The whole point has been to let the Democrats look like they're tough on Bush while avoiding the much larger issues of international aggression, war crimes and torture (among others). The Democrats implicitly agree with Republicans that the presidency must be held above the law so the executive branch can do the dirty things necessary to maintain America's overseas empire. So microscandals yes, macroscandals no.
You can call
You can call your members of Congress now toll free at 866-338-1015, 800-459-1887 or 800-614-2803. Phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to support HR 333 and to start the impeachment of Dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers' office to express their support for impeachment.
As Frederick Douglass said, "Agitate, agitate, agitate"
Get up! Stand up for your rights! There is no freedom unless there is justice. Once again the masses have to override their corrupted leaders to restore order and peace.
On November 7, 1917, Bolsheviks grabbed the power in Ten Days that Shook the World. That was a tragedy for some and relieve for many. They immediately made public the most revered secrets of all belligerents. What chosen few suspected all along – the lofty causes of the Great War in fact were so petty and self-serving that public in great coats on both sides of the trenches decided that they had it enough. So, war was stopped, first on the Russian Front, then in the rest of Europe and elsewhere.
On November 6, 2000, another bunch of ideologues, this time called Busheviks, grabbed the power to repeat Ten Days that Shook the World. This time it was tragedy for many and comedy for all. Gradually, as well as their predecessors, Busheviks made public the most revered secret of the First Land of Law in human history: that social contract, which glued together generations of Americans, is nothing but piece of yellowish parchment, according to current Leader.
This discovery casts new light not only on the nature of still raging Iraq war, but on the history of the whole imperial enterprise, starting from 1947, the year, which will live in infamy. It is safe to predict the with new facts coming to the light, history of this US of A will be re-written to better fit perennial struggle between people searching for this world utopia and people worshipping profit making, be it slave traders or slave owners.
The very fact that such respectful people like Scot Ritter are still in state of self-delusion about what the American Project has long become, show vividly not only how attractive American political genome is but also how genuine are profit seeking people might be. We did not see yet how rootless they are within this country at least. But we will not wait for long to see it.
Curley=Rove
Larry=Gonzalez
Moe=Cheney
Nyuck, nyuck--coitinly!
How dare you insult Moe, Larry and Curly. And Shemp. And Joe. At least they were funny.
Funny ha ha. Not funny "oh my God they really do think themselves universal dictators!"
Nyuck, nyuck, canuckchuck
666, "DCLXVI" in roman numerals, stands for
Dick Cheney, Lead Xenophobe, Values Iraq
A little comment to the first blog WHATEVER You said the DEMS had better get some guts or our country wont be recognizable in a generation. Sorry,Whatever, but it's not recognizable now!! Fascist,police state with an ever-increasing inability to express an opinion without some kind of attack. We have become what we imagined Russia must have been like during the cold war. I didn't mention ABU Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay or torture in prisons in other countries,ad nauseum. Corporate Globilization etc,etc.
The Code of Silence shows what a mafia of criminals this group is. When Cheney met with the oil guys in early 2001, I knew the fix was in. Then the billions of dollars in No Bid contracts to his old company and we were in for a looting the likes of which we have never seen.
I hear you curmudgeon, and will participate. But don't think they won't send tanks into the streets with orders to open fire. I'm old. I don't care. I'd rather die than leave this legacy for my grandchildren.
Excellent article. Thank you for connecting the LEGAL dots, Mr. Blumenthal. The manner in which these authoritarian stooges cover each others' asses in the name of patriotism or what's good for America is spell binding for its inanity, but chilling insofar as its implications for our government and its utterly compromised check-balance systems.
What the Congress has to do is first impeach Cheney. Then appoint a new vice-president like Gerald Ford. Then impeach Bush, to cut down on the pardons. Then impeach Gonzalez so confirmation hearings for a successor, with wide investigatory powers, could feed the 2008 campaign.
Thank you for this succinct article.
Here is a link that will give everyone more information:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/cheney2
Until the US populace gets the courage to take to the streets and follow the example of Gandhi's non-violent marches and demonstrations nothing will change. The people have got to WANT the Constitution restored enough to ACT accordingly. If there is no such desire, there will will be no more US Constitution (except in name only).
What a shame to let cowardice bring down such a noble experiment of human governance!!
Things will change only when the populace is alienated and hopeless.
Then they may :
STAND UP - for what they beleive to be right.
SIT DOWN - in the nearest street to bring transportaion, retail, everything to a standstill.
FIGHT - I hope like Gandhi's Pathan friend Badshar Khan(Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan) (check him out)a Pashtun nonviolent Muslim
FIGHT - Even if it means sacrifice to themselves to totally repudiate the oligarchy
FIGHT - As if their lives depend on active resistance - which they do
When people realize that they cannot ignore the actions of the government and relaize they themselves are the governmet, only then is change possible..
Allow me to quote another blogger of my vintage - estebandito:
(I hope he does not mind)
'As an old hippy draft-dodger,who has been out in the streets se'veral hours a week behind my Iraq anti-war signs demanding an end to the madness since this insanity began (how many years now?), I gotta report: very few people of any age give a good goddam. Oh yeah, we "protestors" get a free coffee now an then and lots of happy honking as the cars go by, but the truth is very sad. Old radicals tell me they are afraid of losing their subsidized rents!! " FBI lists! Got no time for it…"
Practically no one can remember that the way a people get new governments and new directions is ancient and simple: you stop up the streets and you go to jail for misdemeanors and then you go back and do it again. respectfully and peacefully. The fact that this is so self evident yet almost completely ignored tells me that our population of united statesians has largely ceased to function as truly caring, conscience-filled people. Reasons are many……but we are losing hope, and we deserve whatever happens to us now. This is not nice talk in front of the children, or at parties.
Nevertheless, I will continue to sally out and attempt to show folks the facts as well as try and get them to laugh at our predicament ( i usually dress as a clown 'cause clowns have more fun…..it seems like the compassionaste thing to do.'
Additional thoughts:
"To me nonviolence has come to represent a panacea for all the evils that surround my people. Therefore I am devoting all my energies toward the establishment of a society that would be based on its principles of truth and peace." – Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan
"Today's world is traveling in some strange direction. You see that the world is going toward destruction and violence. And the specialty of violence is to create hatred among people and to create fear. I am a believer in nonviolence and I say that no peace or tranquility will descend upon the people of the world until nonviolence is practiced, because nonviolence is love and it stirs courage in people." – Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan to an interviewer in 1985
I thought that Bush the Inferior is the biggest stooge.
GENERAL STRIKE, Sep 11. Do nothing, buy nothing. Send the message.
THe democrats need to take out the weekest link, and then let the administration get caught up in its own lies. Dems you better get some guts and go after these arrogant fools or else this country will be something unrecognizable and ugly in a generation or two.
The three stooges were comical. I fail to see the analogyism.