I believe the proper pronunciation of the good general's last name is "Betray-Us".

Anyone who believes that Petraeus' September assessment could be anything other than Bush's next last PR ditch is already impervious to anything their own eyes (and minds) might dish up.

Here's what we'll be told in September.
"There are indications of progress. We'll know more in (pick a month early in 2008). Give us more time and bodies and money."

No military commander who wants to keep his job or be promoted will advocate withdrawal. Their jobs are to find military solutions to problems(aka victory).

The solution to Iraq must be political, which is not forthcoming from the military.
Next year, being an election year, we will hear talk of withdrawal, dishonest talk.
We're not leaving Iraq voluntarily.

De Amerikanen kunnen niet nederlaag aannemen. Dat is alle die er is naar dat.

Total bushit. That's all we get from monkey head and his gang.

Arianna, darling, it's called ambition. Many ambitious people in America learn early on that power is much more important than being right. If you intend to stay in the system and make something of yourself, you must decide early on that your superiors are always correct and stroke the egos right through to the end -- even if the end is over the edge of a cliff.

We're all sitting around watching this happen - a fully predictable situation, as predictable as the disaster this occupation has become - and we all can only turn to each other, jaw agape, helpless, because the Democratic leadership refuses to execute their sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Gonzalez lies in our face, Tony Snow lies in our face, Dick Cheney lies in our face, and George Bush lies in our face -- day in and day out -- from the reasons for going to war to our current condition to the prospects for the future, all nothing but lie built upon lie. We put the Democrats into power to salvage whatever we can from this situation, and they prove themselves more concerned with the 208 election than preserving our way of life into perpetuity.

I've had it with asking for the impeachment of Bush, Cheney, and Gonzalez. I want the impeachment of Reid and Pelosi and every rotten filthy Democrat that stands in the way of our reclaiming our nation from the hands of thieves.

Gen. Petraeus co-authored a counter-insurgency field manual without ever actually participating in a counter-insurgency operation. Most of his "revised" information is gleaned from past Army field manuals - got one here from the mid-60s, "Guerrilla Warfare," (FM 31-21) - and "The Art of War," which, if our "leaders" would have read back before the illegal invasion, none of this would have happened. Every single thing Master Sun Tzu says about military operations and avoiding and fighting insurgencies is exactly the opposite of what Cheneybush has done, almost as if deliberately.

Of course, they completely missed the whole point of Master Tzu's treatise: The Art of War is WINNING WITHOUT FIGHTING.

Short and sweet: We need leaders who are beholden to those who elected them to lead, not to those who financed their campaign. If it was one and the same - then representative democracy would actually work. Dem, Repub, Green, Lib, Cons..doesn't matter, they work for those who pay them: with money, with votes, with power. And that, Friends, should be you and me, American citizens who vote. Sad, isn't it?

frank1569: Master Tzu definitely would have told Cheneybush not to fight. The eventual outcome in Vietnan should have also shown them that non-fighting was the answer...and if you don't believe it, start to look for the country of origin of ceramics, clothing, electronics, and oh yes, the 3rd largest coffee producing country in the world. Master Tzu is right...not fighting is often the answer.

If only, if only, if only the "leaders" of our nation would have been as smart and well read. "He who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it."

Case closed, back into the cave.

Bush has no intention of withdrawing from Iraq before his last day in office. Why? Point number one, he sees withdrawal as losing face, and he will therefore dump the entire mess into the lap of the next president, who can then be the one to loose face. Point number 2, his REAL bosses (and I don't mean us, the American people) want more profits from military industrial complex contracts, not to mention even more access to OIL. These same bosses that poured billions of dollars into Bush's two elections probably have his successor picked out, bought and paid for.

I bet the White House has already had an advertisement type team meeting, such as "how do you sell a lemon to the public." I will make a wild guess and say strategy number one will be SCARE TACTICS.

In the meantime, watch out for planted stories of alleged successes. Sunnis and Shia becoming buddies to fight off those mean Al Qaeda guys, an article that has already appeared in the Bush mouthpiece periodical, the Washington Times.

Bush couldn't ever actually "win" the war militarily so he has depended on his political ability to "win" the war. Even that now is fading. But to avoid losing the war maybe he just cancels the next election to give him more political time to win.
Hoa binh

The only belivers are the Bush crime family are evil doers.

The U.S. won't leave Iraq until we suck the last barrel of oil out of the ground, whether Repubs or Dems are in the white house. That's the reality and we, the American people, are the enablers of the genocide being committed in Iraq. Every single American citizen owns the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. The blood is on our hands as well as the criminals in the white house, so we had better get used to the idea.

According to Israeli sources published in various books, Prime Minsiter Ehud Barack reportedly told Bush in 2004 "you have lost the war in Iraq--only the size of your humiliation is to be decided upon".

Profound insight? actual prediction? or the truth?

Dear Jane: That's right blame the American people. Were so oil thirsty. Weve caused all the bloodshed in Iraq. Shame on us! Give me a break! When was the last time you were offered an alternative fuel or went by and saw an electric car or anything else powered by anything other than crude.
Never! Thats because greedy oil companies have the politicians in their pocket! The blood is on our governments head not ours unless for some way out reason you want to take responsibility. As for me speak for yourself! Cause that's all your speaking for! You might be Jane but your comments aren't too bright!!! Jane Bright

George is so funny.

Yeah, he's killing us with his humor.

I have no doubt that General Petraeus will say whatever is necessary to keep our troops in Iraq as long as the Decider decides. What worries me more is the General's already successful barrage of lies about Iran's purported "support and direction" of the 1/20/07 attack "by insurgents . . resulting in the murder of five American soldiers" (quoting from legislative findings of the Senate in its unanimous [97-0] resolution of 7/11/07 condemning Iran for alleged acts of war against the US). Despite a legislative fig leaf providing that "nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize or otherwise speak to the use of Armed Forces against Iran," the Senate has effectively crossed the Rubicon by stating that "it is the sense of Congress that . . . the murder of members of the United States Armed Forces by a foreign government or its agents is an intolerable and unacceptable act against the United States by the foreign government in question." Has the Senate really left anything further to say about Iran, other than "bombs away"?

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/072707a.html

Dangers of a Cornered George Bush

War with Iran is coming.

The "decider" decides on how things are going, and only those military men loyal to his twisted, amoral, delusional "vision" are given the power and opportunity to state their case to MSM. And this dictator and company is seen by his 27% loyal followers as a champion of freedom, justice and/or democracy? Time to change brand names... is Card working on that one, too, like the right TIMING to MARKET war, the supreme crime against humanity?

De VSA is een liever unieke natie in dat de burgers van deze natie de Regering controleren. Met andere woorden is het een Regering "van de mensen voor de mensen door de mensen". Zo wanneer een Amerikaanse burger iets zoals zegt, "ik ben niet mijn Regering. Mijn Regering viel Irak binnen en ik had niets te zien met het," zouden deze verklaringen eenvoudig waar in de VSA niet zijn hoewel bovengenoemde verklaringen waar in de meeste naties zouden zijn.

Arianna you got your own rag. Why don't you post on that. BTW, the Huffington post censors legitimate comments from readers. The Huffington Post also has neoconservative and proZionist commentators. Arianna I don't like the company you keep. Get lost!!!!!

kali,
Worse than the neocon and proZionist commentators on Huffington Post is ALL the neocon and proZionist moderators. They keep you from even disagreeing or taking issue with their neocon & proZionist commentators by censoring everything you say.

When Alan Dershowitz submits a piece on Huffington Post probably 80% of all the comments get censored out (mine included and I NEVER post anything hateful, disparaging, or vulgar).