DU will cause large scale genetic mutations.
The human race is about to evolve!

Oxidized DU = Weapon of Mass Distruction.

The wind has moved this stuff all over, how can it be cleaned up now?

but the ecological consequences remain unclear-finally somebody worries about the environment, but what about the health risk? - Screw the health risk, they are worried about DU's effect on the environment.

Does Murdock own NOVOSTI also?

Everything is justifiable once war begins.

Sure people will get cancer, but we need depleted uranium to win.

Sure kids will die, but we need cluster bombs to win.

Sure civilians will die, but people must die in order for us to win.

Sure we torture people, but we need intelligence in order to win.

Sure we lock up the wrong people, but we need to lock lots of people up in order to win.

Sure we are lying to citizens, but we need to destroy democracy in order to win.

This is why we need to avoid war in the first place.

Oh come on people depleted uranium is plenty safe! It has been proven that radiation happens to be good for you like smoking or eating small lead chips! Here is a link to a video that shows that depleted uranium is both good for you and cures cancer!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGUIUQp3LsQ&mode=related&search=

DU is recycled nuclear waste, its the Nuclear Energies way to use the waste. THis is such a crime. The biggest of our nations history. ITs so Nazi like. And dont forget about Grandpa Prescott Bush, he brought those Nazis to America through his financial banking network. Those ties can't be forgotten. What if we are under Nazi infiltration? What then?

evelyn smith, where are you?

DU = Dirty Nuke. It is why the U.S. is so quick to be worried about "dirty nukes".

Barn Owl, right-o. all that nonsense we accuse other nations of doing (terrorism, wmd's, human rights' violations, etc., etc. ad nauseam) is a massive case of projection. i mean, some of that stuff we accused saddam of doing (putting bio agents in unmanned aerial drones, e.g.) was clearly stuff that only the good ole UassofA could think of, cuz we are doing it ourselves.

The crimes we've committed in Iraq are generational in thier devastation. This has been a one-sided nuclear war since the 1990s.

Barn Owl July 24th, 2007 2:54 pm

They aren't worried about anything. Who do you think did 9-11? They intend to kill as many people as possible and they at some point will use a nuke someplace and blame that on Iran. Remember how Saddam was responsible for 9-11? Are you grasping the idea that the USA created Hitler, the Nazi party, communism and has been killing people since the we arrived in the US and before that too. The wealthy are killing off redundant useless eaters and it is GLOBAL.

Jaded Prole July 24th, 2007 3:06 pm

Have a look at the following site.

http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/index.html

Have a read and you will see that the poisoning is thorough, global and beyond repair!

Hi Jed, I was at the gun shop having our twelve gage pumps fitted with eight round loaading tubes and checking out a Browning 243 semi-auto hunting rifle. I'm looking for some more WW2 garands, preferably match rifles that have never been fired. Until just recently, I never__ ever__ thought I'd have any desire to even think this way.

DEPLETED URANIUM!! DU is not very dangerous at all in a solid form, if it is burned, well,___ then it becomes very deadly.

My my, have the Iraqi's finally awakended to the fact, that there is a little problem? They are worried about a few million cancer cases? That shouldn't be their biggest worry. The big disaster for them__ and for ANY person who has been to Iraq during the past few years, is they are all contaminated with DU and will die from radiation poisoning. They may live another twenty to thirty years, they may live a lot less than five, but they are all dead men walking. The wemon and children also of course.

The kids will die off sooner, DU attacks the body's immune systems and children's immune systems are not as well developed as an adult.

As some here have mentioned, DU also alters the body's DNA, a single microscopic speck of DU in a lung will "insure" cancer of the lung. The radiation will also never stop destroying near-by cells, for it will be deadly for at least four million years.

The radiation contamination will also invade the liver, kidneys, glands and it does get into male sperm; the result is deformed babies. Not little deformities, horrible degormities. Babies are born with missing eyes or mouths, damaged brains and missing arms and legs, fused fingers and missing sex organs. It's not pretty, it's horror brought on by the evil of man.

It isn't just Iraq, at least thirty countries are now using the stuff, it's everyplace on the planet. The shells for tanks are ten pounds of solid DU, the 30MM shells used in Gatling guns have 3.5 pounds of DU, that is impressive when we consider those guns can fire a few thousand rounds a minute. When a shell with DU is fired and hits a target, the DU burns and the result is a smoke and dust of deadly uranium isotopes that can kill any living thing.

If inhaled, one single speck will eventually kill you and we have used thousands of tons of DU weaponry in the Mid-East. We have used thousands of tons at gunnery ranges in the united States, the dust is picked up by winds and it is blown up into the upper atmosphere. it comes back to roost when it rains, it's polluting our oceans, our lands and our city streets and homes. The deadly dust is there, waiting for any life to inhale one microscoic speck.

There is a lot more.___ None of of the more is good.

This film clip is the ultimate proof that DU is harmless!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GMvlV6H-FQ

Just wait till all those soldiers and "contractors" come bee-bopping back home and bring DU with them in their lungs, semen, and saliva--it'll make aids look like the common cold.

Happy Days July 24th, 2007 4:09 pm

You sir need to stop your lies and propaganda! Only the terrorists commit war crimes! The USA loves all people and NEVER would hurt a fly! DU is better for you than tofu !

It is a war crime, just like Saddam using gas on the Kurds. The US leadership should all be hanged too.

If that UN report is correct, I guess the massive spike in cancer rates is just some fluke.

Funny. That fluke runs back to the early 90s, when the cancer rate went through the roof. It also corresponds with the dates of Desert Storm. Probably just a big coincidence, and the almost perfect correlation between US military action with depleted uranium and a 2,000% increase in the cancer rate for Iraqi babies is just an extraordinary statistical fluke.

BTW, Robert Fisk has a huge carousel of photos he took of cancer babies in the Baghdad hospital. It certainly appears that grotesque cancer in babies is unnatural in the pictures, but maybe that's just journalistic propoganda.

Nuclear power plants can only hold so much waste - then they must take a Bomb Movement.

It's a gift from Republican President DDE called Atoms for Peace. Or is it for other peoples deformed babies? It's the worst sort of War Crime...

whatfools July 24th, 2007 4:22 pm

What sort of FUD is that? Nuke plants are harmless and so is the waste. The waste is simply not able to be used! This video is more proof that nuclear plants are safe, good for the community, good for the environment and improve our health!!

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/tmi/images/TMIStreamingWeb.mov

It loads a little slowly and is quicktime

Irony is bliss "Happy Days", DU is the last word for weapons of mass destruction. Isn't that why we started the war?___ Maybe not.

Shadow,__ thank you for sharing the photos, they pretty much tell the results of DU in male sperm. Over two thirds of our first Gulf War vets, are permenantly disabled from radiation poisoning. Our government calls it the Gulf War Syndrome. They are scared to death to admit the truth__ or to even tell a truth.

DEPLETED??? That is a word to have one believe DU is safe. It is depleted where it is not suitable for fuel in a nuclear reactor. It is pure uranium 238 and in powdered form, DU is deadly for all life.

Earth is the only planet in our solar system that has any appreciable ammount of water. Water is the essence of life. We must protect our waters, our streams, rivers, lakes and oceans from pollution. Time is running out and unless all of humanity bands together and stops the madness, there will be no home for our future generations. It could end much sooner than most would wish to believe.

Man made pollution from industrial waste, chemicals, oil, burning fossil fuel, waste from atomic power plants, and of course the totally insane use of DU is the primary reason our oceans are in danger. For one thing, because of those ever on going pollutions, our breathing oxygen is in jeapordy.

FLOATING near the surface of our oceans, is a tiny plant life, named phytoplankton. Trillions upon trillions of the plants produce 60% of the oxygen for Earth. Not many years ago, they produced 70%. They are dying off___ and no one know exactly why. There may be many reasons, but there is no question, that man made pollution is a prime suspect for the dramatic and ongoing reduction of tiny plants__ which are the foundation for all life.

DU isotopes are microscopic, they are so tiny that there is not a gas mask filter made that will stop them from entering a lung. Depleted uranium isotopes, will kill any living thing.

Dust FLOATS on water.

This is the subject matter of the San Francisco Mime Troupe's new show, Making a Killing. If you get a chance, catch the show, through Sept 30th.

I tried to load that film Shadow, but after thirty minutes my computer went off line. I called our carrier and got a man in India. He could tell by my real name and the sound of my voice that I'm a male also.

He told me to just play with my mouse every thirty minutes.__ What!!__ Every thirty minutes? __ I'm 70 years old. No wonder those people have a problem with over population.

Notice how the UN report blames the Iraqis for not cleaning it up properly. That's really quite amazing if you think about it. This would be the equivalent of the anthrax-mailing terrorist saying the proper mail handling procedures were not used and the victims are at fault. Or, Cheney's shooting of Harry Whittington in the face was Whittington's fault as he did not "declare himself."

Absolute macaca.

Evelyn Smith July 24th, 2007 4:49 pm

Evelyn,

I would agree with you and most people here if everything going on was a result of idiocy, mistakes, over site, accident or other non planned reasons. The bottom line is that the governments are all simply engaging in a massive population reduction! While we object to all of this for moral, health and religious reasons it does not recognize the fact that most of us are in total denial of the honest truth.

Shrub is not an idiot by the way and there is no doubt that he knows the score and he is implementing the plan that Prescott started with Hitler. In the USA we get injected with mercury and this material is also found in contact lens solution and many other things. All over they erect cell phone towers and I'll bet they can use them to boil or pull the mercury through the brain!

They told us all the stories like "How to Cook Man" or "Omega Man" or "Soylent Green" or "1984" or "Revelations" or "The Matrix" and now we have reached the point of End Game and they do it for real! The DU is for population control! This is why I doubt most of us are going to move on. Others here want to be so optimistic but there is no way to clean up all of these problems!

Evelyn Smith July 24th, 2007 5:01 pm

Go back to the link and RIGHT click it and choose SAVE TARGET AS and download it to your PC (watch you have a mac LOL).

Why clean it up if it's perfectly safe?

It would be impossible to clean it up. We can clean up burned out tanks and other vehicles. We can pick up any that has not totally burned up. How would one clean up trillions of specks of microscopic dust scattered over an entire country? Impossible.

The radiation readings in Baghdad alone, are 2,000 times above the normal background readings. DU was heavily used in Afganistan also. We don't get the real news, the truths, the numbers of disabled vets who are slowly dying. The atomc power plants give DU away to weapons manufactures so they don't have to pay to store it for four billion year. It is billions by the way, that is the half life. So DU can kill for the next eight billion years. ___ we may not have to worry about it by that time.

I have been complaining about DU ever since we began the first Gulf War. Nobody in Congress or anywhere else seemed to care about the problems with it. Only reluctantly did the US VA finally admit to a "Gulf War Syndrome". Nothing but DU poisoning. We have destroyed the cradle of civilization with our dirty armaments, the US Army, the US Marines, the Iraqi people and probably everyone who lives wherever the wind blows out of the region. All of our leaders must now be tried for crimes against humanity at the Hague.
I'm glad that I am almost 70 years old, but my grandchildren will have to pay for this with increased cancers and other problems.

Yep Shadow, I understand either Hunt or Gordon Liddy were in that photo also. One of those men were questioned by police near the book depository after the shooting, the man was dressed like a drifter. That photo and the negative is what the Watergate burglers were looking for. After JFK was murdered, (Kennedy was going to pull out of S.E. Asia) Johnson was the prez, he put Bush Sr. in charge of the CIA and The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident was on the table. Conspiracy theory? Well,__ pictures seldom lie.

Sometimes I think I had been living in a time warp and have come back to this times reality.
The background radiation not just in England where it was first noticed has grown 4x times the rate of pre Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
In Afghanistan a new form of rioactive isotope is showing up and no it is not depleted.
mindfully.org/nucUraniaum-Levels-Afghanistan Google it and then Google "Iraq Babies born deformed' by depleated uranium."
This is not news it was written about in the English Arab and Euro Press before this last invasion.
One question to ask is just how depleted is the uranium and how tight are the variances held in its production methods.
The isotopes showing up in Afghansitan are not of the same molecular makeup as of DU warheads normal composiion.
If anything it would be more like those left behind by a smaller pure radiation neutron explosive.
Just cut a galnce and see if it is still on web as amny sites and articles of Brit Study Groups no longer are.
US deliberately modified the Afghanistan study groupsd findings but they leaked out anyways.
My concern is why should the American popualce have to possibly take care of over an estimated 3 million deformed Du children bred from returning military personell in future or pay for the ex military cancers.

I fear we are slowly drifting off of the primary subject here, even though the comments are related.

There are many in power who are denying DU is a health hazard, It is profitable to use DU for weapons. We must all speak and write to our congress people on the subject and argue our concerns with the obvious facts. We must do all possible to end the use of DU for anything.

DU is an atomic waste of nuclear power plants and humanity was assured, that ALL atomic wastes would be safely stored__forever if necessary. It will be necessary to store them forever and every year thousands of tons of DU and even deadlier poisons are manufactured by using atomic power for our energy needs, instead of developing clean energy. It is insanity,___ fostered by greed and stupidity.

Aren't we proud? Poisoning seems to be a National characteristic. We should MAKE it better, people.

Evelyn Smith July 24th, 2007 6:16 pm

So you don't believe that these people are simply intent on culling population and sterilizing undesirable races?

Another war crime for the USA who WILLFULLY leave atomic waste in counrties they invade. The USA one of the only country to refuse to sign the Ottawa land mine ban. The USA who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki . Who maintain 60 000 atomic warheads as the biggest blackmail in History. The USA who destroyed the Vietnamese countryside with bombs and Agent Orange.
The USA who tried genocide on Acadians, Cherokees and all other " Indians".Who kept in servitude Cubans, Philippinos, and most South Americans.
As long as the USA continues its policies of greed and domination ,the world wil starve ,torture will continue and there will be war without end with Newspeak reporting it (george Orwell).
That prophecy ("1984") has been realised.!!!

How many of the offspring of these "Leaders" are serving the barbaric terroristic Israeli's in the DU enviornmemt in Iraq??????

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGUIUQp3LsQ&mode=related&search=

They are not going to stop shooting DU! You can forget that!! It is going to get worse not better. People they sacrificed nearly 4000 Americans on 9-11 and this is going to end badly!

Shadow, I don't know, if that is their plan they sure screwed up, because they are killing everything on the planet,___ including their families and themselves.

Examples: We used to have on average, 80 specie of birds in our back yard during the course of a year. this year, we have counted 11 and most were only one or two birds, not flocks. We have seen only five humming birds this year, instead of thirty or more at a time. NO bees of ANY specie, we used to have five different specie of bees here. There are very few butterflies and few of any type of insect.

Our weather has been normal here, but many of the trees and plants are sick. Our vegatable garden is a bummer, where we would expect to have a dozen squash on a plant, we get one or none and the tomatoes plants are like always, except very few tomatoes. NO BEES and very few other pollinating bugs or birds.

The clues of a serious problem are clearly obvious. I personally blame it on the insane use of DU; we have spread thousands of TONS of microscopc specks of it around the globe and the accumulation of that deadly poison over the past few years has finally caught up with Mother Nature.

Is there now a much larger ammount of DU in the atmosphere?__ Absolutely.__ I don't know how much more, or if DU is killing the birds and the bees. Nothing else has changed that I'm aware of, not to make such drastic and alarming drops in the wild life populations in just a few months. If the big boys are planning massive genocide, they better buy a lot of oxygen bottles, or build a great big bio-sphere. They should build one large enough so they can start a war and kill each other.

Maybe they will.

Listen people here is the "PROOF" and when you read this you will want to sit down! All of our fears are realized! All of those stories you listened to are true.

"The Whitehouse Coup 1933"

"The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush's Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document.shtml

The man (Prescott) who funded Hitler attempted to take down FDR and create a US Dictatorship....

Bush 41 looks like the man in the middle of the JFK assassination who stated he was in Washington DC the day JFK was assassinated! Bush 41 was responsible for the Bay of Pigs. JFK would not authorize Operation Northwoods and Bush 41 was a partner to that too.

Do you see where I'm going with this? Prescott Bush was part of an attempted coup of FDRs Whithouse, our President's grandfather who did not die that long ago!

Evelyn Smith July 24th, 2007 7:45 pm

I thought about that but it boils down to the reality that these people are doing it and they are not stupid they have a plan and we do not see it. They are doing it and ramping it all up. Perhaps Bush thinks that this is Armageddon and knows that he must get to Iraq to sit on the right hand of God? Whatever their reason it is happening and that is all that matters. We can assume that they have a cure or that they will go below ground or that they are all aliens from some other world but no matter what they are DOING IT!

Thank you 'sh@dow'.

Yeah Shadow, that is exactly what I have been posting for the past two months. They are DOING IT.

I have posted more than five hundred blogs about DU here on Common Dreams strings. More than five hundres__ and I do believe I have probably wasted a lot of time, because except for today, few others ever respond.

I wonder if most even believe it, I've had more comments that I'm a flake or a worry wart than positive remarks. I don't care if anyone replys to me personally, but sometimes there are no comments, except someone will write IMPEACH, or Gore is a traitor, or I voted for Nader, or nuclear energy is the answer.

I duuno, but we WILL ALL know, when we start burying our grandkids, that is__ if we are still breathing.

sh@dow July 24th, 2007 7:46 pm

Are you all reading this post???? Please CD check this out at sh@dow July 24th, 2007 7:46 pm. It checks out and has lightning striking the same family 100s of times. The same family has been involved with this ongoing mess that started in WW1

Prescott Bush created Hitler and attempted to take out FDR then his son becomes head of the CIA then President and then his grandson becomes President then DICTATOR...

There are only 2 choices for us...
1) Revolt
2) Die

Evelyn Smith (aka Kelmer)--You are on a roll today but one small factual correction. You wrote:

After JFK was murdered, (Kennedy was going to pull out of S.E. Asia) Johnson was the prez, he put Bush Sr. in charge of the CIA and The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident was on the table. Conspiracy theory? Well,__ pictures seldom lie.

Poppy Bush (GHWB)has been tangled in teh CIA since post WWII. But he was no put in charge of "the company" until Gerald Ford appointed him to do that job.

Hi Poet, It's aka Kem Patrick, my real name.

Thank you for the correction. That is correct, I know he was in Dallas the day JFK was murdered and so was either Liddy or Hunt and al three were in tight with the CIA.

Sorry about being on a roll, guess I'd better shut it off. DU use is a pet peeve of mine, because it is so deadly serious and it seems as if few care. Nite, Think I'll just take a month or so off and write a book, or take my wife to the MGM in Vegas and do something good to my brains.

DU contamination is not just happening in Iraq. It is happening right here in Hawaii. In 2005 DU spotting rounds where discovered through the Freedom of Information Act at Schofield Barracks. That triggered legislation to test for DU, which passed all committees but at the last minute did not get the funding for the testing. Private citizens in Kona have purchased radiation monitors and got a reading of 75 counts per minute (CPM)on May 29, 2007 at Mauna Kea State Park a few miles from the Pohakuloa anti-armor live-fire training range on Big Island. Normal background radiation is 5 to 20 cpm. Radiation is blowing in the wind in Hawaii!! And it is probably DU!We need radiation testing verified by independent experts downwind of all active live-fire bases in Hawaii.SEE
www.protecthawaii.ws
www.noduhawaii.com
www.dmzhawaii.org
Come visit paradise, we can have a glow green in the dark luau for you.

This is why we should not bend on the nuclear issue; it's too tempting to use with devasting consequences.

I hope this criminal regime is defeated and destroyed like its Fascist counterpart, and the criminals in the Black House are given a good dose of radiation until their stinking bodies rot. God's justice will see to it that these criminal terrorists not die a natural death.

DU contamination is not just happening in Iraq. It is happening right here in Hawaii. In 2005 DU spotting rounds where discovered through the Freedom of Information Act at Schofield Barracks, Oahu. That triggered legislation to test for DU in 2007, which passed all committees but at the last minute did not get the funding for the testing.

Private citizens in Kona have purchased radiation monitors and got an alpha radiation reading of 75 counts per minute (CPM) on May 29, 2007 at Mauna Kea State Park a few miles from the Pohakuloa anti-armor live-fire training range on Big Island. Normal background radiation is 5 to 20 cpm.

Radiation is blowing in the wind in Hawaii!! And it is probably DU! We need a public outcry and radiation testing verified by independent experts downwind of all active live-fire bases in Hawaii.SEE
www.protecthawaii.ws
www.noduhawaii.com
www.dmzhawaii.org
Please help us Protect Hawaii or Come visit paradise, we can have a glow green in the dark luau for you.

Guess where most of the uranium used in DU weapons come from? Manitoba, Canada. We, Canada, are the major US suppliers of this evil poisonous metal. We are just as beholden to the legacy of pain and suffering of the soon to be genocided Iraqi populace as Dubya.

Ask yourselves: How many Iraquis are going to die from DU weapons? The answer is... all of them.

I've read that the du from Iraq has spread all the way to England, sorry can't remember where I read this, but I remember it clearly.