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The Democrats' Iraqi Dilemma: Questions Unasked, Answers Never Volunteered
Pity the poor Democratic candidates for president, caught between Iraq and a hard place. Every day, more and more voters decide that we must end the war and set a date to start withdrawing our troops from Iraq. Most who will vote in the Democratic primaries concluded long ago that we must leave Iraq, and they are unlikely to let anyone who disagrees with them have the party's nomination in 2008.
But what does it mean to "leave Iraq"? Here's where most of the Democratic candidates come smack up against that hard place. There is a longstanding bipartisan consensus in the foreign-policy establishment that the U.S. must control every strategically valuable region of the world -- and none more so than the oil heartlands of the planet. That's been a hard-and-fast rule of the elite for some six decades now. No matter how hard the task may be, they demand that presidents be rock-hard enough to get the job done.
So whatever "leave Iraq" might mean, no candidate of either party likely to enter the White House on January 20, 2009 can think it means letting Iraqis determine their own national policies or fate. The powers that be just wouldn't stand for that. They see themselves as the guardians of world "order." They feel a sacred obligation to maintain "stability" throughout the imperial domains, which now means most of planet Earth -- regardless of what voters may think. The Democratic front-runners know that "order" and "stability" are code words for American hegemony. They also know that voters, especially Democratic ones, see the price of hegemony in Iraq and just don't want to pay it anymore.
So the Democratic front-runners must promise voters that they will end the war -- with not too many ideologically laden ifs, ands, or buts -- while they assure the foreign-policy establishment that they will never abandon the drive for hegemony in the Middle East (or anywhere else). In other words, the candidates have to be able to talk out of both sides of their mouths at the same time.
No worries, it turns out. Fluency in doublespeak is a prime qualification for high political office. On Iraq, candidates Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson don't meet that test. They tell anyone and everyone that they want "all" U.S. troops out of Iraq, but they register only 1-4% in the polls and are generally ignored in the media. The Democrats currently topping the polls, on the other hand, are proving themselves eminently qualified in doublespeak.
Clinton: "We got it right, mostly, during the Cold War"
Hillary Clinton declares forthrightly: "It is time to begin ending this war.... Start bringing home America's troops.... within 90 days." Troops home: It sounds clear enough. But she is always careful to avoid the crucial word all. A few months ago she told an interviewer: "We have remaining vital national security interests in Iraq.... What we can do is to almost take a line sort of north of, between Baghdad and Kirkuk, and basically put our troops into that region." A senior Pentagon officer who has briefed Clinton told NPR commentator Ted Koppel that Clinton expects U.S. troops to be in Iraq when she ends her second term in 2017.
Why all these troops? We have "very real strategic national interests in this region," Clinton explains. "I will order specialized units to engage in narrow and targeted operations against al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations in the region. They will also provide security for U.S. troops and personnel and train and equip Iraqi security services to keep order and promote stability." There would be U.S. forces to protect the Kurds and "our efforts must also involve a regional recommitment to success in Afghanistan." Perhaps that's why Clinton has proposed "that we expand the Army by 80,000 troops, that we move faster to expand the Special Forces."
Says her deputy campaign manager Bob Nash, "She'll be as tough as any Republican on our enemies." And on our friends, he might have added, if they don't shape up. At the Take Back America conference in June the candidate drew boos when she declared that "the American military has done its job.... They gave the Iraqi government the chance to begin to demonstrate that it understood its responsibilities.... It is the Iraqi government which has failed." It's the old innocent-Americans-blame-the-foreigners ploy.
More importantly, it's the old tough-Americans-reward-friends-who-help-America ploy. We should start withdrawing some troops, Clinton says, "to make it clear to the Iraqis that ... we're going to look out for American interests, for the region's interests." If the Iraqi government is not "striving for sustainable stability.... we'll consider providing aid to provincial governments and reliable non-governmental organizations that are making progress."
Clinton's message to the Iraqi leaders is clear: You had your chance to join "the international community," to get with the U.S. program, and to reap the same benefits as the leaders of other oil-rich nations -- but you blew it. So, now you can fend for yourselves while we look for new, more capable allies in Iraq and keep who-knows-how-many troops there to "protect our interests" -- and increase our global clout. The draw-down in Iraq, our signal that we've given up on the al-Maliki government, "will be a first step towards restoring Americans moral and strategic leadership in the world," Clinton swears.
"America must be the world's leader," she declared last month. "We must widen the scope of our strength by leading strong alliances which can apply military force when required." And, when necessary, cut off useless puppet governments that won't let their strings be pulled often enough.
Hillary is speaking to at least three audiences: the voters at home, the foreign-policy elite, and a global elite she would have to deal with as president. Her recent fierce criticism of the way President Bush has handled Iraq, like her somewhat muddled antiwar rhetoric, is meant as a message of reassurance to voters, but also to our elite -- and as a warning to foreigners: The next President Clinton will be tough on allies as well as foes, as tough as the old cold warriors. "We got it right, mostly, during the Cold War.... Nothing is more urgent than for us to begin again to rebuild a bipartisan consensus," she said last year in a speech that cut right to the bottom line: "American foreign policy exists to maintain our security and serve our national interests." That's what the bipartisan consensus has always believed.
Obama and Edwards: Don't Tread on Us
That seems to be what Barack Obama, another loyal member of the foreign-policy establishment, believes too. "The single most important job of any president is to protect the American people," he affirmed in a major foreign-policy statement last April. But "the threats we face.... can no longer be contained by borders and boundaries.... The security of the American people is inextricably linked to the security of all people." That's why the U.S. must be the "leader of the free world." It's hard to find much difference on foreign policy between Clinton and Obama, except that Barack is more likely to dress up the imperial march of U.S. interests in such old-fashioned Cold War flourishes.
That delights neoconservative guru Robert Kagan, who summed up Obama's message succinctly: "His critique is not that we've meddled too much but that we haven't meddled enough.... To Obama, everything and everyone everywhere is of strategic concern to the United States." To control everything and everyone, he wants "the strongest, best-equipped military in the world.... A 21st century military to stay on the offense." That, he says, will take at least 92,000 more soldiers and Marines -- precisely the number Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has recommended to President Bush.
Like Hillary, Barack would remove all "combat brigades" from Iraq, but keep U.S. troops there "for a more extended period of time" -- even "redeploy additional troops to Northern Iraq" -- to support the Kurds, train Iraqi forces, fight al Qaeda, "reassure allies in the Gulf," "send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria," and "prevent chaos in the wider region." "Most importantly, some of these troops could be redeployed to Afghanistan.... to stop Afghanistan from backsliding toward instability."
Barack also agrees with Hillary that the Iraqi government needs a good scolding "to pressure the Iraqi leadership to finally come to a political agreement between the warring factions that can create some sense of stability.... Only through this phased redeployment can we send a clear message to the Iraqi factions that the U.S. is not going to hold together this country indefinitely.... No more coddling, no more equivocation."
But Obama offers a carrot as well as a stick to the Iraqis: "The redeployment could be temporarily suspended if the parties in Iraq reach an effective political arrangement that stabilizes the situation and they offer us a clear and compelling rationale for maintaining certain troop levels.... The United States would not be maintaining permanent military bases in Iraq." What, however, does "permanent" mean when language is being used so subtly? It's a question that needs an answer, but no one asks it -- and no answer is volunteered.
John Edwards offers variations on the same themes. He wants a continuing U.S. troop presence "to prevent a genocide, deter a regional spillover of the civil war, and prevent an Al Qaeda safe haven." But he goes further than either Obama or Clinton in spelling out that we "will also need some presence in Baghdad, inside the Green Zone, to protect the American Embassy and other personnel."
Around the world, Edwards would use military force for "deterring and responding to aggressors, making sure that weak and failing states do not threaten our interests, and ... maintaining our strategic advantage against major competitor states that could do us harm and otherwise threaten our interests." His distinctive touch is to stress coordinated military and civilian efforts for "stabilizing states with weak governments.... I would put stabilization first." "Stabilization" is yet another establishment code word for insuring U.S. control, as Edwards certainly knows. His ultimate aim, he says, is to ensure that the U.S. will "lead and shape the world."
Running for the Imperial Presidency
The top Democrats agree that we must leave significant numbers of U.S. troops in Iraq, not only for selfish reasons, but because we Americans are so altruistic. We want to prevent chaos and bring order and stabilization to that country -- as if U.S. troops were not already creating chaos and instability there every day. But among the foreign policy elite, the U.S. is always a force for order, "helping" naturally chaotic foreigners achieve "stability." For the elite, it's axiomatic that the global "stability" that keeps us secure and prosperous is also a boon for the people we "stabilize." For this to happen in Iraq, time must be bought with partial "withdrawal" plans. (It matters little how many foreigners we kill in the process, as long as U.S. casualties are reduced enough to appease public opinion at home.) This is not open to question; most of the time, it's not something that even crosses anyone's mind to question.
Well, perhaps it's time we started asking such questions. A lost war should be the occasion for a great public debate on the policies and the geopolitical assumptions that led to the war. Americans blew that opportunity after the Vietnam War. Instead of a genuine debate, we had a few years of apathy, verging on amnesia, toward foreign affairs followed by the Reagan revolution, whose disastrous effects in matters foreign (and domestic) still plague us. Now, we have another precious -- and preciously bought -- opportunity to raise fundamental issues about foreign policy. But in the mainstream, all we are getting is a false substitute for real public debate.
With an election looming, the Democrats portray themselves as the polar opposite of the Republicans. They blame the Iraq fiasco entirely on Bush and the neocons, conveniently overlooking all the support Bush got from the Democratic elite before his military venture went sour. They talk as if the only issue that matters is whether or not we begin to withdraw some troops from Iraq sometime next year. The media report this debate in excruciating detail, with no larger context at all. So most Americans think this is the only debate there is, or could be.
The other debate about Iraq -- the one that may matter more in the long run -- is the one going on in the private chambers of the policymakers about what messages they should send, not so much to enemies as to allies. Bush, Cheney, and their supporters say the most important message is a reassuring one: "When the U.S. starts a fight, it stays in until it wins. You can count on us." For key Democrats, including congressional leaders and major candidates for the imperial Presidency, the primary message is a warning: "U.S. support for friendly governments and factions is not an open-ended blank check. If you are not producing, we'll find someone else who can."
The two sides are hashing this one out in a sometimes strident, sometimes relatively chummy manner. The outcome will undoubtedly make a real difference, especially to the people of Iraq, but it's still only a dispute about tactics, never about goals, which have been agreed upon in advance.
Yet it's those long-range goals of the bipartisan consensus that add up to the seven-decade-old drive for imperial hegemony, which got us into Vietnam, Iraq, and wherever we fight the next large, disastrous war. It's those goals that should be addressed. Someone has to question that drive. And what better moment to do it than now, in the midst of another failed war? Unfortunately, the leading Democratic candidates aren't about to take up the task. I guess it must be up to us.
Ira Chernus is Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder and author of Monsters To Destroy: The Neoconservative War on Terror and Sin. Email: chernus@colorado.edu
© 2007 Ira Chernus



33 Comments so far
Show AllThe Democrats' Iraqi Dilemma: how to offer a weak "me too" and a blank check to Republican criminality while still advancing a proprietary claim on all the anti-war votes.
The poor babies!
"..very real strategic national interests in this region"
And no one ever bothers to ask what those interests are exactly.
Ever notice when the Democrats edge away from the Neo-con prime directive they are charged with being partisan, but the Right, with all their obstructing and criminal enterprise are never regarded as partisan--or encouraged to make efforts to be more bi-partisan.
I am sorry, but Dennis Kucinich DOES have a plan to exit Iraq, in a timely manner. This involves the UN Peacekeeping mission.
Until I receive otherwise, Mr. Chernus, I will know that you have it "in" for Kucinich.
Kucinich and Richardson are the only two Dems I could enthusiastically vote for. No pandering. No panicky retractions of positions uttered on Monday and disavowed on Tuesday. No quixotic belief that the US is obligated to control the world with military power -- do the others not remember what happened to Rome???
It would be good to hear them, or someone, anyone, tell me why we still have 737 military bases around the world (in addition to those in Iraq) and how much money we could save if we closed them all.
I curse the MSM for ignoring the candidates who have real solutions in favor of hyping those who are good at raising money. How shallow is that? And who will those who get all their news from TV vote for?
There has always been a foreign policy elite no matter what period of history we look at. The nice thing now is that we live in a democracy instead of in a dictatorship or monarchy.
We all get to participate in the debate and we all have the power to hold our leaders accountable.
We also have the ability to change public opinion in ways that puts direct pressure on the political leaders.
We have a lot of work to do to maintain and improve our democracy, but we need to remind ourselves that we have the power.
Hehe, that's funny Nathan.
Yes, perhaps it is Kucinich and Richardson now, since Gravel has proven himself to lean right economically. Clinton, Obama, and Edwards make me sick; but we all know they might never have a chance for even an election.
Is there really a difference between a Republican or a Democrat? I think not.
Re-election money comes from the corporations that profit from war. 75 cents on every federal dollar is spent on WAR. Why are we so surprised to see ourselves at war?
Nathan Andover (above) thinks that America is a democracy. It isn't. Never has taxation without representation been more apparent nor more abhorent.
Kucinich '08
Peace to you and yours.
Asking whether there are differences between a Democrat and Republican sounds to me like asking whether there is a difference between drinking muddy water lying in a creekbed or drinking the toxic waste from a chemical plant. They both will make you sick, but the latter definitely has a higher probability of killing you.
The Democrats are corrupt, lying scumbags, while the Republicans are ignorant, reckless homicidal maniacs. They both plan to control the world, but the Republicans are willing to create a much higher level of risk and a much greater sacrifice for US non-elites in order to do so. And since the Republicans are so completely clueless about human nature, their initial attempts will inevitably fail and they will continue to up the ante. They basically are willing to risk worldwide thermo-nuclear war in order to enslave the non-elites of the world, and since they are such ignorant failures, it will most likely come to that.
It is getting to the point that we must hope for a US economic collapse soon and try to use the ensuing chaos to completely reshape the US government.
RE: THE SMALL KUCINICH VOTE WHEN MANY U.S.ers QUESTION THE IRAQ INVASION - ANALYZING WHAT IT MEANS
"Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson...tell anyone and everyone that they want 'all' U.S. troops out of Iraq, but they register only 1-4% in the polls and are generally ignored in the media."
1) I think it would be revealing to have a poll that asked electors, first, which candidate most closely expressed their political point of view; and, second, which candidate they believed was most electable. I would guess that if the question was framed this way, you'd find a higher % of people favoring Kucinich's ideas - despite the fact that media attention makes people ignorant of his positions and, as a result, makes them favor other candidates by default. (Information about this could be gotten by including a question asking electors to rank which candidates they have the most information about from mainstream media.)
2) Still - even if more people 'ideally' prefer Kucinich but practically support mainstream candidates - the unpopularity of Kucinich says something about not just media coverage, but the alternately right wing or disenfranchised/disengaged views of many American voters.
I love the focus on the word "stability." Of note is the fact that Democrats and Republicans speak of troop presence and stability together and with a straight face. Because this is in spite of the radical increase in instability of the country overall since we attacked, we must conclude that the word "stability" is not being understood exactly in the same way between the candidates and the voting public.
Afterall, if 160,000 troops can't approach anything close to stability in Iraq, why would half that amount sustain what little stability remains as 80K troops are withdrawn? Makes no sense on its face.
I think I have a way to resolve this seeming inconsistency, by way of Greg Palast's work. If, by "stability", the candidates mean stability in the energy markets and the economy by keeping a stranglehold on Iraqi reserves and production -- then everything makes perfect sense. It's about energy stability. No one gives a diddly-poop about political stability or any other form that is not related to controlling petroleum output.
According to Palast, and the evidence continues to mount (as the bodies pile up) that he is correct, the purpose of the war is peg Iraq to the OPEC production quotas Saddam had been violating. If there's one thing the hedge fund crowd in America can't stand, it's unpredictability in the market. It is just too costly in the form of increased risk.
A price we have all paid for restoring predictability in Iraq's oil output has been an increase in gas prices due to the spigots being mostly shut off.
Now, the devil's advocate argument is that these candidates are only responding to the needs of the public. The public would rather have budget certainty at $3 per gallon than a vacillation from $2 to $5, or whatever.
That's a very real interest, and our public votes on that interest. One could argue that ensuring stability in gas prices is critical for any political party with any ambition in this country because Americans will not tolerate volatility in gas prices.
So, if we want to pursue a humane and just and progressive approach to foreign policy, we may have to change our way of life here significantly with respect to the car culture. That's cold reality, my friends.
Kivals, the difference between the Democrats and Republicans is as follows: one is burdened with sustaining the illusion of concern for the dispossessed, and the other is not.
mirf59,
From educational and life experiences, I recognized long ago that reality is of unbounded complexity while our models of it are, of necessity, quite finite and limited. Therefore, our models are always simplifications and there is always pressure to simplify as much as possible where gross simplifications may serve the purpose without too much cost for the inaccuracy.
In this situation, it is tempting to engage in extreme simplification and brand Republicans and Democrats as roughly the same. And though I will agree that they are both dangerous for the continuation of the middle class and both offer policies inconsistent with the longterm welfare of the human race, the stakes are so high that I believe it is useful to recognize the difference in degree. I truly believe that not only would a Democrat be less likely to intentionally put the last nail in the coffin of the middle class, but also the Democrat would be less likely to provoke an international crisis, and if the Democrat did provoke such a crisis, the Democrat would be more likely to resolve it peacefully. However, I will add that if the Democrat is Hillary, the difference in degree may shrink to where it would be negligible.
Either an Obama or a Clinton presidency will demonstrate clearly that members of oppressed categories (Blacks, Women) can easily cross over to the oppressor side, as we've also seen Israel doing since 1947; and that "class" is the one true division in this country.
Braithwa842:
Our problems won't be solved by casting votes. The U.S. military and the fascist government it serves won't be brought down until young people quit enlisting. When the government has no more soldiers and Marines, then the American wars will stop. If they try to re-instate the draft, they will have a revolt on their hands. Old folks commiserating on these pages won't accomplish anything. To kill the beast you have to stop feeding it. Petitions, phone calls, letter writing - it's just a waste of time. Shut down the recruiters - that will do the trick. Those of military age in the U.S. are the only age group with power - the power to shut down the military industrial complex. Voting booths have nothing to do with it.
That we even expect the corporate media and various elites to ask anything but softball questions is itself greatly troubling. That we expect them to change in this geologic epoch is folly.
But it also illustrates, at once, the tremendous power of the corporate media to frame discussions -- and the extent to which the great majority of Americans still rely on this.
I reiterate what I suggested elsewhere -- that perhaps the most electable candidate is Nader or Kucinich. That is, if policies were what got candidates elected. But the power of airtime, persuasion, spin, money, psdychology and suggestions (vote for X because so-and-so is probably voting for X) etc. seems to sway a sufficient number of Americans to vote contrary to their own class interests and political inclinations -- coming to substitute "adored by the corporate media and contributors" for "electability".
Impeachment now, then beginning the trial.
However, the trial will take time that is true.
It will be interesting for the American public to see the evidence presented in the prosecution and again in the defense during the trial.
Perhaps we will get to see the US government more clearly.
We have all the time in the world to advance the principles of democracy and work on practicing them.
One thing that ought to keep the Democrats from pursuing impeachment is that we may find that they were very willing collaborators in the crimes of the administration. It thus will make it just as hard to vote for a Democrat as a Republican
So let's have an impeachment and a trial and then let's clean house and find human beings to represent Americans in the Congress and Executive Branch
Abandon hope all ye who enter ...
Other threads of Commondreams and ICH have been wrestling with this
knotty problem for some time. And its been bothering my brain as well.
Should we vote for the Democrats whom despite pre 2006 rhetoric have
voted in various ways to perpetuate the war, or vote for some third
party who will probably not get in.
If we support the Democrats - then we lose. It proves to the Democrats that
they do not need to provide change. They only need to provide a little
rhetoric just a little to the left of the Republicans, and we will vote
for them again. On the other hand, the Democrats have little choice,
but to bend to the powerful media and the corporate donors. To us, just
a little rhetoric and token gestures will do. To the powerful, they
must deliver the planet - literally.
This should be obvious now. All this has been driven home in this
article by Ira Chernus. The Democrats are not promising to close the US
bases in Iraq, and are not promising to allow the Iraqis to have their
own oil. Had they made these promises, then those promises would be
broken as soon as they took office.
If, on the other hand we support a third party. Then the Republicans
will win the next election, and in the short term at least - we lose.
Further, there is no guarantee that third parties could win in
the long run. What is more, if we were to succeed in eventually getting
them in, then the new government, like the Democrats will have to obey
the media and the corporate donors. Otherwise they will not govern for
long.
The reason why readers collectively cannot decide whether or not to back
the democrats is that when either option is analysed, the end result is
that we lose. There is no way to make our government obey the will of
the people. Instead, the government has little choice but to pander to
the powerful.
Responding to Bernice, baska and elysestabiner: It seems you've misunderstood Prof. Chernus' point about Kucinich and Richardson -- he clearly states that they do NOT do doublespeak about the war, but rather say clearly they want troop withdrawal (in contrast to the 3 frontrunners)and are therefore maraginalized and ignored in the media!
And now for some fantasy ...
Let us imagine that we had a different political system than the one
that we have now. Let us imagine that instead of having our politicians
elected by popular vote, they were selected by random choice. Yes, by a
lottery, or a televised lotto where the numbered balls were used to
spell out a social security number and thus select someone to be offered
the position on the congress or senate.
By the laws of random numbers, our politicians would be fully
representative of the people. Using this method of selecting
politicians, neither the media nor the corporate donors would be able to
prevent the politicians from being representative of the people.
Our current system acts as a filter. Those who get to the top need to
have the following attributes:-
* They must have political charm and skills.
* They need to be able to lie. A politician without this basic
political skill will not get to first base.
* They need to be able to recognise just who is powerful enough to
control their destinies and how to please them. Yes, this includes
corporate donors, the media, and perhaps other mafias.
* Their determination to be a successful politician must be stronger
than their desire to uphold their principles. A successful politician
is more like a weather vane than a compass.
* They must come from a rich or powerful background.
So I must ask, do you want our government to consist of people with
these attributes, or would you prefer a random selection of the
population.
With this system, the selected politicians will not, on average, be the most
intelligent people - granted. But also they will not, on average, be as
stupid as Reagan or G.W. Bush. They will, by the laws of random
numbers, on average, be average. It must be pointed out that our
current system does not select the most intelligent, but those who are
the most loyal to power.
It goes without saying that the politicians selected using this system
will lack experience. Therefore, they must have the benefit of a
special public service department that would provide that experience, as
well as some education. Which leads us to the real weakness of such a
political system. That is those public servants which advise the
politicians would become even stronger than the heads of public service
are now. Perhaps something could be done which would moderate their
power.
BRAITHWAY: Very clever "solution."
MIRF89: Good analysis.
FED UP WITH POLITICS: The essence of the BEING is not necessarily consistent with the outer "costume" of race/gender, etc.
KIVALS, when you courted the US economic downfall that a better phoenix will rise from the probably inevitable ashes, I was wondering if you personally planned to stick around in the US to watch the big show?
Ron July 23rd, 2007 8:16 pm
I think that you have hit upon a very practical and effective solution.
Target recruitment. If recruitment can be made to fail, then war will
be reduced.
Let potential soldiers know that that will not be "fighting for freedom
and democracy", that they will instead be fighting for oil and world
domination. Let them know that the US spends as much on the military as
the rest of the world combined and that very word "defence" is but an
Orwellian joke. Let them know that once enlisted, they will have little
opportunity to follow their conscience, and yet they will still be
responsible for their own action. Let them know that they will be
forced to commit crimes, and these crimes have been found to be
inexcusable in Nuremberg even if you were ordered to commit them.
The powers that be will also see that it is a very practical and
effective solution also, so expect violence, and possibly some new laws
to combat it.
Peace activist Sheehan arrested at Congress
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2337983820070723
What do we do with "No, no Nancy?"
Say say no to "No, no Nancy."
I am not sure why more people are not discussing this- but it seems to me what is at stake is the very financial underpinnings of the United States.
What I mean is - that many economists recognize:
1. Debt has replaced collateral (gold/assets) as the engine of money creation. This is why debt burden has skyrocketed in the past few decades and so has money supply. The fact is that the treasury has STOPPED giving out the M3 money supply numbers because it is furiously printing up money to buy back bonds –so that everyone will continue to think there is confidence in the US economy.
2. This debt need never be repaid - if the most important commodity in the world (OIL) continues to be pegged to US dollars. This peg is essentially all that's holding the US economy together. If it were not for the fact that many countries 'need' US dollars to pay for Oil –why would countries like Japan, India and China buy US treasuries or hold US dollars.
3. The price of oil will continue to go up probably to 100 dollars a barrel –to continue to force central banks to 'hold' US dollars and thereby give 'value' to a scrip that has no backing and is grossly inflated- since China and Japan hold the largest amount of US debt. Think the black and white pictures of Post Weimar Germany with people using wheel barrows to transport money to buy bread!!
4. The price of gold has gone from $250 and ounce to $670 despite the central banks of Spain and England dumping tons (yes literally) of gold on the market to depress the price of gold and preventing a stampede out of the dollar.
The enormity of the US debt burden is the reason for the frenetic and crazed adherence to the war in Iraq (essentially controlling the oil) . If Iran were included in the picture – which it will be – then the US would control close to 80 percent of the world's oil. Only this much would be enough to prevent other oil producing nations such as Russia and Venezuela from being able to start the snowballing of the deterioration of value of the US dollar- think the sudden collapse of the Soviet Union. Even if Iraq's oil never comes on the market – it is fine –since the US still essentially controls 60 percent of the world's oil now! However- it should be noted that Iran, Venezuela and Russia have started demanding payments for their oil in yen and euros. .
At present – it is too early to tell if this gambit will play out successfully for the economic survival of the US. But in my view what is at stake here is the ability of the United States to continue to foist it's debt and inflation to the world until the time the oil runs out.
What is needed is urgent and focussed interventions. Bail outs to private equity corporations must NOT be allowed - such as long term capital alliance. Taxes MUST be promptly raised on these corporations and their subsudies revoked immediately, savings must be emphasized. The money supply must stop printing dollars in the dead of night. Congress must be made accountable. Thousands of empty governent jobs must be cut. Tens of thousands of over filled positions like police, FI, health departments must be trimmed and held accountable. Healthcare fraud must be prosecuted - it literally costs 20-50 billion a year.
In short - the 'people' must realize the government is bankrupt and demand fiscal responsibility. Although we may get an extension - with victory in Iraq/Iran -controlling the oil - that is NOT the problem. At some point - maybe our children(?) or grandchildren will live through a devastating financial crisis - if the debt burden is not relieved. Financial chicanery like 'borrowing' from Social Security funds, etc is ineffect a self-deception which will be extremely painful when it ends.
Please listen and listen well.
If one wants to fight his enemies, which in this case are enemies of peace and justice, one has to know who these enemies are. Would someone please tell the rest of us who do not know, just who are these foreign policy elite or foreign policy establishment who are guilty of initiating war crimes and crimes against humanity?
Please name names so that we can bring the war to them and to their families, the same way as they have taken their wars to the families of others, so we can pressure them and make life miserable and unbearable for them, so that we can write to or e-mail them, so that we can do whatever else it takes to stop them dead, really dead, and I mean dead in their tracks.
If you know, would you please name names? Thank you.
Dear Saila:
I think some due diligence and most importantly an earnest read of some known political authors whose books never seem to get much press (Noam Chomsky- is but ONE example) -would point you in the right direction. Palast does name name's as well.
It has been painfully obvious who and where the enemies are and amply documented by the way. This is the myth of conspiracy theories - that they are somehow kept secret. They are not - there is proof - and always has been.
Braithwa842:
When you vote for someone whose politics are opposed to yours, then your right to the democratic franchise becomes farce. "Least worst" politics has gotten us where we are today. How well do you like the results?
seriousprofessor July 24th, 2007 7:18 am
Five years ago, I was reasonably happy with the system. I would have said then as I would probably admit now, that historically, we have not had a better system.
Back then my concern was the sanctions, which I knew to be a farce and genocide. But in the last five years everything became really bad. What upset me the most was the lies about the WMD that were repeated again and again. And I happened to know that they were lies at the time ( http://web.aanet.com.au/webspace/BloodForOil ).
I am now starting to see things in a very cynical light. I think that the system is broken now, if it ever worked. Democracy is supposed to be rule by the people. But money and the media has perverted the system it has come to be rule by the super rich. You get freedom of speech of course, if you happen to own a newspaper.
Our democratic rights are being dismantled, it seems, week by week. If you want to know how far we could potentially sink, then look at China. They now have full on capitalism without any checks. They now have found it to be profitable to remove organs from political dissidents and other criminals. They have full blown censorship of the internet.
My proposal in my previous posting is not just a joke. I actually think it might be possible to construct a better political system using lotto to select the politicians. Because then we know the people chosen will be representative of the population, and the rich could not control them quite so easily as in our current system. Of course there would be risks, and I have not worked out the details. Control of the media would have to be dissipated into the population, because the powerful would use the media to unseat such a parliamentary system. It also seems not to be possible to get to there from here.
IYAMWUTIAM: Excellent analysis. One thing I love about this forum is the distinctive areas of expertise writers bring to it. Economics was never of much interest to me, but I see the storm clouds gathering. As an adept student of planetary cycles, portents are VERY ominous for the U.S. The cycle begins NEXT year, but accelerates far more into 2009. By 2010, there is a planetary configuration roughly resonant with the image of a cross. The most optimistic interpretation is a crossroads, meaning, policies as currently underway will not be able to continue as thus. As I have explained in MANY prior postings, there is a profound mystical analogy between Jesus's choice of 12 disciples, Abraham's founding 12 tribes, and the ancient zodiac personae. These 12 Divine principles when working in balance support the various aims, interests and intentions of souls who come to this world to learn the lessons it provides. Any two signs that exist at right angles (think traffic jam) are by nature at odds. When key planets occupy all four of these points (the case in 2010 and for several years thereafter) then humanity will feel the effects. "As above, so below" constitutes an ancient logos as powerful as gravity. Neither requires human consent and whether people understand these larger cycles or "believe" in them is of no importance. MANY prophetic systems have cited the next 10 years as a phase of enormous transition, unrest and disruption. Since the US has 2 primary gods: mammon and Mars (although it does a good job using Jesus for PR) I feel these twin areas will be where the planetary pressure is felt. Translation? The US dollar will be compromised. I am not sure what to do to protect my family's small networth in dollar terms; so any advice would be appreciated. Buying a little plot in Costa Rica sounds better to me every day!
kivals writes: It is getting to the point that we must hope for a US economic collapse soon and try to use the ensuing chaos to completely reshape the US government."
I could not agree more. A good place to start would be to organize a GENERAL STRIKE. Block the streets with tractor trailer trucks, Don't go to work. Instead, march in the streets to bring down the government. Bring the god damned economy to a halt. Just for one day. You will see this scab of a government go insane. Panic and fear will rule the rulers. Repeat after me: GENERAL STRIKE! GENERAL STRIKE! GENERAL STRIKE! All the fucking slaves can take a day off. We really only need a small percentage of people to do this for it to be effective. Until then I am going to party! Anything else except impeachment is just putting off what needs to be done. Yes, there will be blood in the streets. The cops are paid to protect private property not YOU! If it gets bad enough in the streets I expect the anti-gun folks to start advocating guns in every liberal's holster. Hey, I can dream can't I? Or did the republicans outlaw that too? The revolution is 150 years late. LET US NOT WAIT another 150 years. We will ALL be dead by then.
Saila: You asked for names to be named re: The global elite.
Try Googling 'FDR Smedley Butler coup' for a historically documented conspiracy by a fascist group of companies to overthrow the president. This is NOT a run-of-the-mill unprovable conspiracy theory but FACT.
Although the coup failed, their culprits never saw justice and their names were supressed. It is my opinion that the conspirators regrouped, bided their time, altered their plan and now, over 60 years later have achieved their aims.