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Pennsylvania Democrats Want Nader to Pay for Bush's Election
WASHINGTON - Ralph Nader, the independent presidential candidate Democrats love to hate, is afraid that Pennsylvania authorities trying to dun him for $61,000 are about to freeze his personal bank account.
Nader ran into a buzz saw when he tried to get on the Pennsylvania ballot in 2004 as an independent presidential candidate.
Democratic activists kept him off the ballot, beat him in court for turning in fraudulent signatures his campaign had collected and are on the verge of getting officials in his home city of Washington to attach his assets.
Nader, who's contemplating a 2008 run, claims that the smell of politics permeates the conflict. Democrats in the Keystone State blame him for tilting the 2000 election to George W. Bush.
T.J. Rooney, chairman of the Pennsylvania Democratic Party, said that the mention of Nader's name sent his blood pressure up 50 points. Told of the judgment against Nader, Rooney laughed.
"I think that's great," he said. "You're goddamned right he should pay, and he should go away, because he didn't learn his lesson in 2000."
Describing his reaction to the judgment, which went all the way to the Supreme Court, Nader said he felt disenfranchised, excluded from the standard American political and legal process, much as African-Americans once were.
"It's like the 1930s," he said. "It's political bigotry of enormous proportions."
The lawyers who sued Nader and his running mate Peter Camejo have no sympathy.
"Mr. Nader owes us some $60,000 to $70,000, and it's time for him to pay," said Efrem Grail, a partner at Reed Smith, the Pittsburgh firm that brought the case on behalf of a group of voters.
Nader failed to submit 25,697 valid signatures to get on the ballot, he said, and the court reporters, stenographers and handwriting experts Grail used to buttress the case were costly.
Gregory Harvey, a Philadelphia lawyer who's also part of the case, said he was an unabashed Democrat and was motivated by one thing: "I wanted to prevent Ralph Nader from doing what he did in Florida in 2000."
Harvey was so eager to talk about Nader that he called from his vacation in the southern France region of Provence.
Bush beat Democratic nominee Al Gore by 537 votes in Florida, when Nader, the Green Party nominee, received more than 90,000 votes there.
"There's no question that Nader cost Gore the election," said Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.
Nader has millions of dollars in stock holdings, but that, he said, isn't the point.
"Yes, I can afford it," he said, "but the necessity of a diversified electoral process can't afford it."
Camejo settled and paid Reed Smith $20,000.
Nader owes the remainder of the court's judgment of $81,000, plus interest.
Grail, whom Nader refers to as "unholy Grail," allows that there were some tentative settlement discussions with Nader. Nader said he was willing to consider giving the money to charity if he could pick the charities, a proposal that apparently has gone nowhere.
"We do intend on collecting the judgment that he owes us," Grail said.
Nader, for all his chutzpah, isn't all bluster: "This is so embarrassing to me. Not even GM did this to me."
In the 1960s General Motors hired private investigators to turn up dirt on Nader, even hiring prostitutes, after his landmark book about GM's Corvair, "Unsafe at Any Speed," was published.
The effort failed, and GM paid him a $475,000 settlement for its trouble in 1970
Copyright 2007 McClatchy Newspapers


144 Comments so far
Show AllCOMarc, I think you and I may have been separated at birth! Great posts.
As a Florida voter in 2004 I was very scared about stumping for Nader even though the man had every right as an American to be in the election. I was ready to vote for him but was leary of the ridicule and nasty behavior I knew I would get from Democrats. Well, after getting all kinds of attacks from ladies with Democrat buttons "Anyone But Bush "(which really meant vote for any moron the Democrats select) because of a sign I made suggesting people vote their conscience not their fears with a support of Nader...they drove me to work on Nader's campaign. I am proud I was on board and I will do it again! READ MY STATEMENT......I WILL NEVER...NEVER...NEVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!
These spineless and gutless on-the-take Democrats in office make me want to "RALPH"! Frauds...all of them!
The only thing that seems really relevant to me here - because of course the man had a right to run, and people had the right to vote for him - is did he actually turn in fraudulent signatures? And if so, how much responsibility does he carry for that? And if so, have other candidates done it and been allowed to slide? Depending on the answers, he might just need to accept it and pay up, and we have to acknowledge that even Ralph Nader isn't free from corruption. THAT'S what I want to see discussed.
Name any politician who has done more good for this county in the last 40 years than Ralph Nader. You can't.
Ralph Nader isn't to blame for Bush's election. Even if you consider Florida in 2000, the people who should be ashamed are the Nader VOTERS in Florida.
Anyone who voted for Nader in a state where it was known that the vote would be close was a fool. I lived in Indiana, where it was safe to vote for anyone I wanted because the Democrats consistently concede the state. Kerry didn't even have an office there.
If you remember back to 2000, there was the Nader Trader movement. If you wanted to vote for Nader without possibly handing your state to Bush, you simply voted for Gore and had a friend in a meaningless state like Indiana vote for Nader.
This is the silliness we have to engage in until we change amend the constitution to eliminate the ridiculous Electoral College. One vote should count as one vote no matter where you live.
The Democrats are well on the way out- Nader as their scapegoat? Always...
I will vote for Nader EVERY time his name makes the ballot, and laugh in the face of any crying, whining "Democrat" afterwards (those ignorant f*cks).
Wow, PA sure stands by the morals this country seems to have these days. Denial, blame and unacceptance of diversity. Good job guys!
George Bush ought to give Ralphie boy an ambassadorship or something. He owes him the presidency. Maybe he could send Ralph to Zimbabwe so he can experience first hand the end results of his crazy economic ideas.
It is good that the anti-democratic election rules in the US are being exposed here. For more info visit: http://www.ballot-access.org/
Bush does not owe Nader the presidency. Beside all the other good reasons to say that that are stated above, add this one: As people who study the way people make choices know, and has Nader has said repeatedly, Nader probably pulled more votes from Bush to Gore than he pulled from Gore to himself. That's right, Nader HELPED Gore. The so called "spoiler" effect is mostly mythology.
Well well well. The DUMOCRATS are every bit as fascist as the REPIGLICANS. What a surprise. When I was in Grade School (back in the Stone Age - the 50s) we were told that in a DEMOCRACY ANYBODY could run for office and you could vote for the person who you liked best. That's what made us the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WHOLE WORLD! My my my. How 50yrs has changed all that. AND I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT! Thank you PA DUMOCRATS FOR THE "HIGHER" EDUCATION!
Democracy in America: A Revolutionary Idea
Bill Clinton cost Al Gore the 2000 election.
Had Clinton not lied about his contacts with Monica, the story would have immediately fizzled, Clinton's popularity would have escalated and he would not have been impeached. Gore would have been able to have a pro-active campaign and parlay the Clinton administration successes into a victory, rather than distancing himself from 8 years of Clinton administration successes and running a defensive 2000 campaign.
I agree with almost everyone here that the persecution of Nader is ridiculous, anti-Democratic and even fascist.
After seeing this story, many people here are now saying they'll never vote Democrat ever again. You do realize that's EXACTLY what they (the corporate Democrats) want. They don't want people like Al Franken or Cindy Sheehan running for Senate seats, beating them in the primaries, and influencing the Democratic party. They KNOW the system is RIGGED for two parties, and since it's rigged they're trying to piss off progressives so we become divided.
They know after doing things like this, you'd be embarrassed to call yourself a Democrat. When your friends ask you if you registered, and you tell them you registered Democrat to vote in the primaries, people are going to make fun of you, because current Democrats are so corrupt. Of course, you, a reader of Commondreams, a progressive liberal, do not want to be associated with "these people."
BUT you should vote in the primaries to throw out bad Democrats, because the structure of the U.S. electoral system, namely that it is a strictly single-member district plurality system, MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIRD PARTIES.
"The 'party' is no longer really a party in the usual sense of the term, but a government controlled pathway into government. It is just a structural shell, and the label 'Democrat' is merely the name for one of two government-mandated avenues into elected office. After all, anyone can register to be a member, and anyone can run in the primaries." - http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/change/science_freshstart.html
"Democrat" is just a label. 5% of Democrats are good Democrats, 95% are corporate Democrats. Why can't we transform the party to 95% good Democrats, and 5% corporate Democrats?
That's why you should vote in the primaries for someone like Kucinich (a Democrat), then if they don't win in primaries, vote Nader if you like. Just remember, "Democrat" is just a label, a government mandated label that must be used by a politician, otherwise they face a system designed specifically against them, which is meant to exclude them. If you can't stomach registering as a Democrat, then I think you've already surrendered because the system is not designed to have an independent or third-party President.
Someday let's hope instant-run-off voting or another system is implemented so the system isn't rigged, but until then I would never register Green. Voting in the primaries to throw out bad Democrats is the best way to change current American politics. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
Powerslave2: You should really get the facts straight before you regurgitate the canards of the Democratic Party Scapegoat and Slander Machine. Your post just shows your intellectual laziness and your inability to separate fact from propaganda. As many other previous posters have explained, Nader had nothing to do with Gore, WHO WON THE ELECTION, not being SELECTED as president. Gore's pitifully inadequate campaign, massive voter disenfranchisement (90,000 faux felons, most of whom just happened to be people of color, Democrats or BOTH, and presumably Gore backers, were denied their right to vote), Gore's refusal to demand a FULL recount that would have shown that he WON, and a party-line Supreme Court vote for Bush--these are the things that made Bush president.
And for the record, what "crazy economic ideas" are you talking about? Please elaborate.
Goeswithness: I suppose you didn't check out the links above about the PA ballot access laws and the ridiculous number of signatures needed to get on that state's ballot if you aren't a Demopublican or a Republicrat. I don't believe for a moment that Nader would intentionally turn in fraudulent signatures. But I DO believe that a large number of Democrats and other Nader-haters would sign a ballot petition fraudulently just to sabotage his candidacy. After all, that's what YOU would do isn't it?
Dems are pathetic. Somehow we have got to break this 2-party system, which is really no more than a 1-party sytem.
Do you see just what is wrong with the Democratic Party? It's a dinosaur flapping it's big tale around in Pennsylvania just before it becomes extinct.
This is the primary reason why so many, many, many people are neither Republican nor Democrats. Now more than ever, the voter is looking at the conduct and the fairness of people in leadership positions in all parties. There is so much graft and lawlessness in Washington today, that trying to smear others is too convenient and . . . obvious, and definitely not the way the majority of the people of this country want to go.
I remember when the PA Dems made damn sure that Bob Casey got annointed to the Senate last year. I can understand that the GOP ruined the state but the Democrats in that state are just as meek and lame-brained as the ones in VA. The Democrats are pointed their anger in the WRONG direction and hopefully GOD will PUNISH them for allowing the GEE OH PEE "free" passes !
Hello? Anybody at home?
The bell that should ring in voters ears is so big and loud that it scares the living hell out of me how far all this has come. There must be a connection to the McCarthy era, where people were systematically muted by the 'Commie' word. The Commie became independent and shares the same fate as so many people in US history that were actually FOR THE PEOPLE. How difficult can it be to look through all the machinations the corporate parties and media come up with?
To choose between Damnocrats and Repiglicons is like the choice between colon cancer and brain tumor.
There is only one way to run the planet and it does not include political parties.
The solution is 'parliamentary duty'. I will die with the conviction that only randomly selected citizens make sense in a parliament. Shuffled together from all political directions, all walks of life. We don't need a urinary executive, we need all the power to the people.
How many issues have the Penn democrats raised about the Bush Cheney Corporations?
What action did the Penn Democrats use to stop
Billary Clinton from promoting Nafta, the
reason that Penn has lost their industrial base.
Who is to blame for the Bush-Kissinger operations for profit in the Middle East?
Gore lost because his campaign was based on Polls. He did not have the backbone to raise any legitimate issues. His choice of the Senator from Israel as a Vice President and the promoter of the Iraq War and now Iran,
was another reason Gore lost the election.
If Gore had been a candidate like FDR he
would have won by a landslide. The Penn democrats should go back to the Coal Mines.
But don't panic, Hillary will soon come to your rescue and completly ruin the working man's party without the help of Nader.
I wish the Democrats could be as nice to Nader as they are to Bush
It's facinating to see all of these Naderites blame the Democrats for Nader's fraudulent activity. They sound so much like the Scooter Libby apologists. Crime shouldn't pay.
Behind the smoke screen of "the right to run for office," is someone who, when it comes down to it, would rather sacrifice the country's welfare to his agenda. Remember, folks, in Pennsylvania, all of Nader's signatures and all of his donations were collected by the Republican party. That should tell you something about his support and who he benefited.
What a bunch of DEM swiftvoters at their nadir.
dkm, did you say Republican party? That's terrible! You mean the same Republican party with whom the Democrats join hands at every turn, including hiring rent-a-cops to keep Nader away from the debate grounds? Those Republicans? The Dems' bipartisan buddies?
Quel horreur!
You do mean Republicans, as in the ones who introduce Constitution-shredding legislation like the USAPATRIOT Act, which the Democrats then vote for without reading it? Those Republicans?
It's comforting that you can personally attest to the origins of Pennsylvania Greens signatures and donations, and also that Commondreams readers were born yesterday.
But we are talking about the same Republicans, the ones who invaded another country with enthusiastic Democratic support, right? Those Republicans?
If any of you still have any doubts as to the incredible odds and hurdles Nader was up against back in 2004 just to get ballot access let alone be heard please read the following statement from Nader's own 2004 website when he was struggling to be a third voice in national elections. It will make your head explode!
http://www.votenader.org/ballot_access/legal_news/index.php
Everyone,
Thanks for the great discussion today. Have a good night.
Claudius
Wow! What a thread! This and other threads on this site indicate that there is a strain of presumed progressives who are as virulently anti-Democrat and therefore as seething and mentally distorted with pure hatred thereto as is any group of the most rabid far right Republicans, so where is the difference?
You guys ought not to waste your time and resources on third parties. There's a party already waiting for you with plenty of money and open if perpetually slimy arms, and it knows where you're coming from, because it comes from the same place. It's the one that insults elephants by using them as its symbol.
The thought of the Pennsylvania Democratic Party makes my blood pressure go up 100 points
Nader 2008
Because standing up for Democracy matters
Sofarsogoo(?):
Funny post. But on a serious note, yes we are mad as hell at the Democrats. And for good reason. They are just as corrupt and viscious as the Republicans, especially when it comes to keeping out alternative voices for Americans to hear during crucial elections.
And, as usual, it must be gut wrenching when the truth about your party slams you smack in the face. Unfortunately, some will never learn, or, worse yet, be couargeous enough to admit it.
Sofarsogoo
"Wow! What a thread! This and other threads on this site indicate that there is a strain of presumed progressives who are as virulently anti-Democrat"
Wow back atcha ! Did you use your whole brain to write that unwitty propaganda
I'll give you a party that is "virulently anti-Democrat"......The Democratic Party.
NADER 2008
Bill Clinton and all of his clones sold the soul of the Democratic Party, sold-out the long established Democratic Party values and principles...for corporate cash.
Great comments. In my view Mr Nader is the most qualified person ever to run for President. I live in Pennsylvania and I am shocked to read this T J Rooney crap.
Do yourself a favor and vote your principles. Unless the Democrats manage to impeach the criminals and pull every American out of Iraq by election day, I'll be voting Nader 2008.
Larry J. Sabato is full of crap:
200,000 thousand registered Democrats in FLA voted for Bush.
Nader had nothing to do with that.
Further, Jim Wilkinson organized the Republican congressional aides who traveled from Washington DC in their suits to block the Dade County recount, which if successfully done that night would have given the election to Gore.
Third, the Supreme Court violated precedent in voting 5 to 4 to give election to Bush.
Nader had nothing to do with any of this.
Sabato is an incompetent scholar.
It's irrevellent.....
http://www.geocities.com/mewatch99/usdividerule.html
formernader hit the nail on the head!Nader didn't appoint any of the Supremes that elected Bu$h.Nor did Nader slip the Dumocrats a Mickey and put them to sleep in the aftermaths of 2000 or 2004 Coup d'Etats.
Blaming Nader is absurd.
IHATENADER; Now that is what I call being consistant, you are a dream come true. I disagree with you on a few point there. But tell me,___how do you know what Ralph's penis looks like, you get a good look at it at sometime perhaps, having guilt feelings and trying to feel better for what you did__ or more likey, imagined what you did?
Ahhh, seek treatment, you must know what you are. Does it frighten you, or is it because you hate your mother too? Poor baby, help is available, but you must ask for it before you go completely off of the deep end and hurt yourself. Nity nite poor thing. Kem Patrick
the last time i checked anyone can run for political office. shouldn't it be illegal to actively work to prevent someone from running for office? i'm pretty sure the freedom-hating terrorist-loving democrats have admitted as much: let's have them rot in jail where tyrants belong.
I'd have preferred a more comprehensive article on this battle. Several articles have been written over a long period of time and published in various places, but you have to be hunting for them to get all the information. Big shock.
Some of the facts that an article on the PA Dems vs. Nader should include, if they haven't appeared in the 80+ comments above yet, include:
- PA Supreme Court Justice Thomas Saylor's dissenting opinion which argued that there was "no pervasive fraud" in the Nader petitions when the case was before the PA Supreme Court regarding whether or not Nader/Camejo should be allowed on the ballot.
- Only 1.3 percent of the total signatures were deemed "forged" and interestingly, 85 percent of that 1.3 percent were uncovered by one of the eleven judges assigned to search through the petitions. President Judge Colins found 588 "forged" signatures. The ten other judges found a total of just 100.
- As I understand it, even though the State Supreme Court did rule that there were too few valid signatures to qualify Nader/Camejo for the ballot, that Nader and Camejo themselves were not the culprits. It was the petitioners responsibility. (That said, I would add as a personal opinion that as someone who gathered signatures in '04, that the PA petitioners could easily be guilty of nothing more than not having enough time to collect enough signatures AND go through and check them all to make sure their signers were being honest and accurate -- so they did the best they could and turned in what they had!)
- Many of the signatures deemed "fraudulent" were cases where addresses were inaccurate due to a person's change of address. In some cases signers used ditto marks referring to the what was written above their signature rather than writing things like city or county names all the way out and some of those were thrown out. The highly publicized "Mickey Mouse" type signatures were very rare exceptions.
-Pennsylvania is not an isolated incident of the Democratic Party attacking the Nader/Camejo campaign's right to compete. Many state campaigns encountered legal and not-so-legal challenges by other state Democratic Parties. I believe it was in Oregon where not only did they blatantly sabotage the campaign's original signature gathering process, but I believe it was there also that men in suits were sent to petitioners homes and intimidated with a lot of legal b.s. In my home state of Wisconsin we got off relatively easy with a challenge based (once a couple other groundless challenges were picked off) on a technicality (one elector wasn't from the district they were supposed to be) which the campaign could easily correct and wanted to correct (they had a valid elector lined up to replace the other), and though we had to fight up through our Supreme Court, we did manage to hold onto our right mark Nader/Camejo on our ballot with a unanimous verdict from our Justices. But I digress...
- As Ballot Access news reported, partly in response to this article, the PA court ignored the constitutional argument raised by Nader's attorney(s) that in '72 and '74 the Supreme Court had ruled that a mandatory fee in order run for office is unconstitutional. But of course that's not what this is! Right Dems? This is a fee for running the same year Gore lost. According to Rooney this was a fee to teach Nader, as he said it, something he didn't learn in 2000. Others implied it was payback. What does the Constitution say about that? Is revenge Constitutional??
While I'd love to see more journalists include all the facts on the Nader side of the battle, I did enjoy this article. Haven't seen anyone yet get such openly vengeful statements out of the Dems involved, showing their true colors. And I like how it closes by referencing how history has vindicated Nader before when under attack from a Goliath (... and will again?).
Though I hope the quote from Nader about "This is so embarrassing to me..." isn't as easily misinterpreted as I think it might be. Everyone gets that he's saying he finds it embarrassing for the Dems and the PA court system to be behaving in this fashion, right? The GM context is important. They embarrassed themselves big time trying to incriminate Nader in some way - any way they could! That's what the Dems went for in 2004 rather than try to compete, rather than taking on any of his vital issues... embarrassing is too kind a word for their behavior.
I will vote for Nader for the third time in 2008. And I won't be throwing my vote away. I'll be voting my conscience. In the long run, that is the only way to have lived.
peace, justice, human rights for all.
Too bad we can't screw Dems out of the next election and have a 2 party election Green vs. Republicans
YEP, IT IS TOO BAD UMLAUT, BUT WE MUST FACE REALITY__ RIGHT! LETS DO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PUT THE REPUBLICANS IN A DEEP HOLE AND THEN WORK FOR A DECENT PARTY. IT IS NOT THE TIME TO ATTEMPT IT OR FORCE THE ISSUE NOW, WE ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH AND THAT IS REALITY.
BE LIKE THE CHINESE IN THIS RESPECT, OR A QUIET MOLE. SLOWLY BUT SURELY UNDERMINE THE STRUCTURE AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY FALL. GIVE IT ANOTHER SIX YEARS.
IHATENADER - How eloquent!Do you kiss your Mama w/that mouth?
Evelyn Smith - You crack me up!
Don't talk to these right wingnuts. But I'm wondering, is IHATENADER a Democrat or Republican? He sounds unsafe to be around, like you might get rabies from all the flying spittle.
Evelyn Smith:
Your July 12th post that says:
"LETS DO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PUT THE REPUBLICANS IN A DEEP HOLE AND THEN WORK FOR A DECENT PARTY. IT IS NOT THE TIME TO ATTEMPT IT OR FORCE THE ISSUE NOW, WE ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH AND THAT IS REALITY."
It is, IMHO the MOST INTELLIGENT post on this thread.
It lays out strategy that will work since progressives and other good folk in America who are waking up to the neo con fascism will need leaders like KUCINICH,NADER,SHEEHAN,BOXER,GORE,GRAVEL and others to push out the AIPAC and DLC democrats from the DEM party into the elephant party where they belong. In their place one should woo the greens into the DEM party to shore up the progressive base and ultimately have a progressive party. This is how the genuine progressives in the British Labour party work (ask Kem Livingstone the Mayor of London), except for the right wing coup by the Blairites 10 years ago.
How can a progresive ever hate Nader without whom so much of consumer protection from the Korporate predaters would be just a dream? This time around, though, the situation is so dangerous that even Nader would not endorse a run.
ALSO MINORITIES, that is about 30 million votes, key in swing states will PERMANENTLY hate white America with a passion if they inflict another Fascist Kapistocracy on America. Go to any minority website and if you have the guts, tout many of the nostrums here there and stand around to argue your "point". Sometimes this site looks like a machiavellian wet dream of the neo-cons.
Why doesn't Nader just switch and run as a Democrat? He could even switch to the Republican Party and spoil their "party". Is he an idiot or what? People just don't use their brains sometimes. You don't think Lieberman was going to switch to the Green Party or Libertarian Party when he lost as a Democrat in the midterms? Did you? I mean for crying out loud, Sheehan is even thinking of challenging Pelosi and she will win if she stays with one of the two major Parties. Dismantle the greedy racist frauds from the inside, you can't do it from the outside because the epoxy (greed, money, and power) that binds them together is too strong.
Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com
The Americam people would be so much better served if they voted for their choice instead of whomever they think can win. I guess they want to be on the side of the winner. VOTE your heart people!
BCCM:
You make a valid argument. One we've all heard over and over again. The problem is, no one wants to be associated with a disfunctional system. That's why you see people like Nader and Sheehan go Independent. Working from the inside gets you nowhere. Look at Kucinich, the most "progressive" Democrat on capitol Hill. A politician dedicated to his party no matter how corrupt it is. And where is he? Where is his platform? What has his inside-the-party fight gotten leftists? Absolutely nothing. Working for change inside this smothering monolith is fruitless. And he's been fighting the fight for years!
What needs to be addressed and what comes to light through the article above is the fact that our two party system is broken. We need a new electoral system. One based on...dare I say...democracy! Our states' system of keeping third parties and independents at bay through an unfair and undemocratic ballot access law MUST be addressed and MUST be erased! If not, Americans will NEVER have choices at the voting booth. More and more American voters will go the way of so many other disenfranchised and disheartened Americans and simply not vote.
Ballot access laws in every styate must be changed. Google your state to see if there is any group attempting this and join them. Only through grassroots movements by fed-up Americans will we ever be able to take back our government.
dkm July 11th, 2007 7:35 pm
Behind the smoke screen of "the right to run for office," is someone who, when it comes down to it, would rather sacrifice the country's welfare to his agenda.
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dkm-- Unfortunately, this is pretty much true for every candidate. The smoke screen comes from that "fire in the belly" pundits are always gushing over.
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Sofarsogoo July 11th, 2007 9:23 pm
Wow! What a thread! This and other threads on this site indicate that there is a strain of presumed progressives who are as virulently anti-Democrat and therefore as seething and mentally distorted with pure hatred thereto as is any group of the most rabid far right Republicans, so where is the difference?
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Sofarsogoo-- Aw, how cute! You are what is known in blog circles as a "Concern Troll", who shows up to self-righteously wring its hands and clutch its pearls about how mean & awful-- awful!-- it is to witness justifiable outrage at the corruption and hostility to progressive values that has mortally infected BOTH parties.
Dry your eyes, sweetie. And consider the possibility that your perception is actually a result of YOUR and your allies "seething and mentally distorted" with pure complacency and gullibility.
PS: IHATENADER isn't worth consideration, except to note that it is manifestly unsafe at any speed.
"Why doesn't Nader just switch and run as a Democrat?"
Remember what they did to Dean.
They don't want you to run as a Democrat if you don't play ball and they don't want you to have the choice to run anywhere else if you don't.
They don't want you.