OK, I am not going to fall for this we got to show "outrage" business.
This is why our efforts have not been very successful so far.
We should present our grievances with Joy and humor.
the majority of Americans who want a peaceful revolution do not want to see us tying up traffic, shutting down business or manning freakin barricades and I will have nothing to do with such CIA programed self destruction.
I have been to a hundred demonstrations and we are always depicted as a bunch of angry losers trying to get our clever messages on our signs seen on TV so that the power elite will give in to our demands.

Instead of pissing off the public and making the White House happy about that we should walk respectfully and the less sign carrying and angry shouting the better...every one has seen all our signs already so we should not treat the public as if they are sheep that can be persuaded by marching and chanting or trashing property and everything that the War Machine wants us to keep doing ....In Chicago there were police and FBI provocateurs who made sure that the violence would keep the Viet Nam war for another 5 years.
If we go to DC or where ever we protest we should not close down business but spend money at the local shops and restaurants and talk in normal tones to the folks we meet....In other words win the peace for a change. We gave peace a chance now we need to take a chance for peace.

Love, Jim

Jim Glover gives an important reminder not to become what we hate - or better yet, to not hate in the first place. Negativity only breeds more of the same, and anger (justified or not) is a destructive force, unless it is channeled. None of us want to be considered "a bunch of angry losers," or to discredit the anti-war movement by feeding negative stereotypes, but it seems to me that a sense of outrage is perfectly natural when confronted with injustice, especially when it involves personal loss. Cindy Sheehan certainly acted out of outrage at the senseless loss of her son's life, and her anger, like fireworks, sent out many sparks of inspiration to thousands of people willing to hear her anger, to identify with it, and ultimately to use it to initiate change. Since radical change (in people, institutions, governments, etc.) usually only happens when it has to, unless a committed minority somehow forces change, the majority of people in this country need to first, believe that radical change is necessary, and second, take action. But what action? Should everyone go outside and sing in the streets, joyfully proclaiming their disapproval of our government? Yes, a peaceful revolution is a noble ideal, but how many successful ones have their been?

I agree that Americans need to ALL go to Washington to STOP cold the criminals ,and I recommend burning down the Shithouse with the criminals inside before they kill more or escape to Argentina.
The Washington disease is totally rampant and will kill more millions if it is not executed and there will blowback or karma to pay as it is !!

OK America. Cindy is back. Let's get off our asses and help out this time. If you can't walk, donate. And tell your friends. I just did. I'll keep contributing until America is free from those creepy evil doers. RISE UP! DON'T USE THE EXCUSE I CAN'T HELP BECAUSE I CAN'T GET TO TEXAS any more. Open your wallets now. Organize. Let's help us help ourselves take back our country. THANK YOU CINDY!!!!!

Well Cindy couldn't stay quiet, so neither shall her constituency!

The moderator at the NY Times let fly my edited version of my latest last-last entry, so I have forwarded the whole mess to the "Hill & Bill Show". at their .gov address, in case any of YOU would like to let her know how you feel about her civil service thus far:

Click HERE for the form to write to "Billary" at: http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm?subj=issue

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209. July 5th, 2007 6:54 pm
As questions about 911 hoaxes are on the minds of a majority of those polled, most would likewise agree the invasion was prosecuted under manufactured pretext, and that motives are evident with those 'elites' who stood to enormously benefit from defense spending and oil profits.

This would appear to be the new common conclusion brewing in the consensus (or it soon will and should be!)

There was and remains no useful asset to our 'defense', rather a devastation of it, as well as the criminal slaughter and maimings of countless thousands of uncounted civilians.

Still we hear knee-jerk mid-american responses about how the troops are fighting so that we can have the 'freedom' to say these things we do, etc.

Yet those apparently limiting our freedom of speech (other than a few NYT 'black-ops moderators over there~), for example have historically been NOT invaders, but rather OUR OWN PAID STAFF AT THE FBI, for whom technology has by now provided powers of domestic surveillance and censorship that J. Edgar Hoover could only have imagined in his wet dreams.

(And now that Google has apparently agreed to develop a 'filtered' version of the web for China, one could easily see these tools once perfected, turned on us as well– But until that happens, democracy shall still prevail online!)

The neo-conmen who have seized power illegally in this government are no simplistic paranoids the way Tricky-Dick was, and appear to have over-stepped the former impediment of mass demonstrations by simply ignoring them (so far).

A mass protest at the Pentagon for example could be now seen as just another 4th of july picnic, but you can bet that all those surveillance cameras (which conveniently didn't produce apparently one single verifiable photo of the 'plane' that hit the pentagon) will be in full focus on peace-rally day, creating a huge database of face-recognition fact-sheets on all participants.

BC can never bring back the draft-card-burning, 'give peace a chance' chanting rallies, at least not with any of their apparent past effectiveness, through grafting more 'skin' onto the flayed beast of the armed services.

Any draft-induced civilian actions may eventually provide fodder for Li'l B and his army-issued AK-47, as he and his fanatical 'defense' force mow down the civilian 'terrorist threat' in typical KENT STATE style…

It's too late for demonstrations folks, we did that already.

It's time to IMPEACH.

It's time for LEGAL ACTION,

the public MUST MANDATE that their PAID EMPLOYEES IN GOVERNMENT legally hobble the perpetrators of national crimes, pursue justice and fire these bums (tho it remains a question as where justice can ever be served if the criminals forever get continually pardoned).

If you're not at least flooding your congressional representatives with letters and calls demanding accountability of the executive branch (or whatever the 'Trickier Dick' imagines himself these days), then you are complicit in the lies and war-crimes they are committing in your name, with your money, at this very moment, as well as the dismemberment of law through precedent-setting, permanent thresh-hold changing events.

CONDEMNING HILLARY has now less to do with her former controversial senate vote, and now EVERYTHING to do with her (and Nancy Pelosi's, et. Al) refusal to uphold the law and remove these blatant criminals from power.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

— Posted by JS.

Great Folks,
Now that we seem to realize that we need to impeach Bush/Cheney together, I am for it all the way.

I still don't see anyway around the fact that once it starts officially in the House, Cheney would have resigned so that he can be pardoned by the new VP. Bush will appoint a new VP if Cheney resigns in time so he can get a Pardon. And If the House impeaches them both as partners in High Crimes, Bush will resign just in time also.
If cheney does not resign in time before that, Bush will not be able to get a pardon unless He resigns in time also because once they are offically in Impeachment proceedings they cannot be pardoned in cases of Impeachment....Like Nixon left just in time.
This will probably happen if the House Impeaches Cheney first or both of them together.

Nancy Polosi would become president only if the Senate convicts them both if Cheney has not already resigned in time.
That is my fantasy for sure.

So it is up to the House...we can write and call them but so far they sound like they haven't got what it takes to do the right thing.

They are afraid to face a newly appointed Republican President in 08.
Well, thats the Political reality...too bad for Truth and Justice.

But impeachment is still impoertant because I don't think anyone can bring regular criminal charges against a President before he is convicted in the Senate...that is what Impeachment is about.

Now what I need to know Before I go off to DC is "do we have a permit for a demonstration"?

I don''t like walking into traps.
In Chicago we were lead into a fenced off area and were confronted with troops and tanks before we got close to the convention.
Now a days they do this even when we have a permit called "Free speech Zones".

I need info on it before I take the trip to DC....I usually sing at our rallies here in Florida...they aren't as fenced off as some.
If your angry, that means you care. Anger and outrage can be constructive or self defeating.... but less anger and the more love is what we need to be effective for change.

I like to sing to the tune of Tom Dooley:

Hang down your heads Bush and Cheney Hang down your heads and cry
Hang down your heads Bush and Cheney, Poor boys your bound to die! (Oops, I mean Resign)

This time tomorrow, reckon where they'll be
Lookin for a place where Super Criminals can still be free
Chorus

More to come,
Jim

Just another voice saying: Thank you Cindy!

We missed you. We understand your frustration, but we welcome you back.

Cindy Sheehan is back in the fight for peace justice and coming to - NEW ORLEANS - JULY 11th 2007 EVENT

New Orleans CONTACT:
Gordon Soderberg
gordonsoderberg@mac.com

Cindy Sheehan is back in the fight for peace justice and coming to New Orleans next Wednesday July, 11, 2007. On her way from Crawford, Texas to Washington, DC and then to the "Gather in of Hearts Fest" Central Park, NY, NY.

Updates and any changes to the New Orleans event will be posted here:
http://neworleansvfp.ning.com

Rally Lower Ninth Ward Deslonde St @ the location of the Levee Wall breach. Time 2pm-ish

Local Schedule For New Orleans:
July 11 arrive New Orleans, LA. 2pm-ish Deslonde St in Lower Ninth Ward Levee Wall.
Evening dinner and camp fire talks at Bayou Liberty Slidell, LA for partnering Organizations directions provided at the afternoon event in New Orleans.

Help get the word into the local national press and/or make a donation @ http://neworleansvfp.ning.com to feed the group dinner on July 11th and breakfast on the 12th.

Thanks for considering to help with this short notice but, worth while project.

New Orleans Contact
Gordon Soderberg
New Orleans Voices For Peace
http://neworleansvfp.ning.com

The complete schedule:

July 10 Crawford Tx - Houston Tx
July 11 Houston Tx. - New Orleans La.
July 12 New Orleans La. - Montgomery Al.
July 13 Montgomery Al.- Ft. Benning Ga,
July 14 Ft. Benning Ga - Atlanta Ga.
July 15 Atlanta Ga. - Gainsville Ga.
July 16 Ganisville Ga. - Clemson SC
July 17 Clemson SC - Charlotte NC
July 18 Charlotte NC - Greensboro NC
July 19 Greensboro NC - Lynchburg NC
July 20 Lynchburg NC - Charlottesville Va
July 21 Charlottesville Va.- Richmond Va.
July 22 Richmond Va. - Arlington Va
July 23 Arlington Cem - White House/ Capital
July 23 - Washington DC - Philadelphia PA.
July 24 - Philadelphia PA - Allentown PA
July 25 - Allentown PA - New York City NY
July 26 United Nations Action
July 27 Begin to Gather at Central Park
July 28 TBA
July 29 Gather in of Hearts Fest Central Park

We need local volunteers/Organizers to help at each stop. What we would need from each local organizer: Housing/ Camp site for Walkers Dinner after rally/action and Breakfast the next morning before resuming walk. Help to plan a rally in your city If applicable an action outside of your congressional office.

National Tour Contact:
Please e-mail Dede at tiggerloli@aol.com if you can help us in your city.
www.thecampcaseypeaceinstitute.org

Backgound:

Cindy decided to get back into the fight after The Bush League White House commuted the sentence of I. Skater Libby. Her goal is not to lead the movement. Rather, to use her name and access to media to help local organization get media attention to hear opinions of the Democratic Machine that used her up and spit her out after the elections last fall.

Contrary to popular thinking she does not have allot of money. Since the Democrats have walked away from her mission so has most of her support from BIG MONEY.

So we are back to the grassroots and helping the peace movement build the from the bottom up. As we did when a few other veterans took her to Crawford to ask Bush for what Noble Cause did her son die on August 6th 2005.

Quote:
Gordon Sderberg Veteran US Navy Corpsman

I've been in New Orleans since September 2nd after leaving Spending a good part of August in Crawford Texas. I have been volunteering at first with Veterans for Peace to help with emergency relief. I stayed behind when the Veterans For Peace Impeachment Tour bus returned to their original mission in October of 05. Now, I'm video taping what the grassroots relief orgs have been doing to fill in where the FED-STATE Governments have abandoned their responsibilities. For me, this is a challenge and a opportunity as most worth while causes are. It is a challenge because, I'm trying to do this myself with absolutely no Money. Volunteering dose not pay well. And two years of it has tapped me out. That is why I'm reaching out to the peace community for assistance with this event.

These events with are opportunities to show solidarity and raise our collective voices for peace with a woman who will never give up and never give in. As M. Mead once said. Nothing ever changes with these kinds of people.

So, please consider helping me help her to help each other.

If you live in one of these cities mentioned above get involved and get connected. And lets stop this war machine in its tracks!

Gordon Soderberg
gordonsoderberg@mac.com

OK. I forgot....I have a big ego...
Forget the permit, the tanks and troops....If I get to meet Cindy, I'll come anyway and bring my banjo and the Florida gang with me.
Love, Jim

Fellow Americans and global citizens:

Thanks for your input relative to Ms. Sheehan´s article.

Now Hear This.

1. You will not achieve the end of the global tyranny of the corporate criminal few by "demonstrating" for "impeachment" of a lame-duck criminal representative of same.

2. You will not achieve a government of, by, and for, the people by continuing to tread the worn out and clearly corrupted bogus "electoral" mechanisms of our ill fated nationstate.

3. The entire charade of "progressive" Democrats would be laughable if not for the fact that it is merely yet another truly lamentable manipulation of those not fortunate enough to have gained a clear insight into just how unrepresented/misrepresented they are. Which sadly to say, judging from the reams of thetoric on many forums, would include the majority of American as well as global citizenry.

4. Only a fool or worse would publicly advise or countenance dialogue as a rational means of countering, or even better, suppressing, criminal institutions that use deliberate lies and outright mass murder as a means to their grossly miscalculated ends.

5. Peace, human dignity, social integrity, and global constructive public cooperation will not begin to be gained until justice is rendered upon the known criminals among us, and I do not mean the farcical attempts by some of you to "impeach".

DO you truly love your family members still serving the criminal in genocidally afflicting the innocent?

Do you truly comprehend the fact that millions have been murdered or worse, in our names, at the behest of a Hitlerite regime of corporate criminals? Do you really care?

Then tell those who are claiming to serve the Constitution and the nation for which it stands in no uncertain terms to commence their march to Basra AFTER they have suppressed the criminals squatting inside the "Green Zone", and remove themselves ASAP to the true and proper battlefield....the hometowns of their families, and the capitol of the nation.

Nothing less will suffice.

W.hole E.arth E.quality P.arty... coming sooner than you think.

What I like about Cindy is that she doesn't do the political calculation thing before standing for something. This is the kind of intrepid character that the founding fathers must have had when they went up against the British Empire of the seventeenth century. Cindy may have her vulnerabilities but I'll take her anytime over the party operatives. Hey Cindy please also stand for taking the $$ out of politics.