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Presidential Scholar Confronts the President; Gives Bush Letter Decrying Torture
WELLESLEY -- Usually, the high school seniors who win the federal government's highest honor just go to the White House, pick up their Presidential Scholars medal, and get their picture taken for posterity with the president.
In the Georgetown University dormitory the night before the big moment, the newly minted Wellesley High graduate persuaded 49 of her 140 fellow scholars to sign a letter she and a dozen others had drafted and she had just written longhand on notebook paper, calling on President Bush to reject torture and treat terrorism suspects humanely.
Text of the letter handed to President Bush by Mari Oye
Mr. President.
As members of the presidential scholars class of 2007, we have been told that we represent the best and brightest of our nation. Therefore, we believe we have a responsibility to voice our convictions. We do not want America to represent torture. We urge you to do all in your power to stop violations of the human rights of detainees, to cease illegal renditions and to apply the Geneva Convention to all detainees, including those designated enemy combatants.
Signed
Before the scholars posed for a photo with Bush on Monday, she handed him the letter. He put it in his pocket and took it out after the photo shoot. Reading silently to himself, the president looked up quizzically at Oye and said, according to her, "We agree. America doesn't torture people."
The minute-long confrontation earned the Yale-bound student a mention in The New York Times and other national media outlets. Dana Perino , White House deputy press secretary, also responded later Monday. "The president enjoyed a visit with the students, accepted the letter and upon reading it let the student know that the United States does not torture and that we value human rights," Perino said.
Some other presidential scholars were not happy, saying that the letter's presentation spoiled their moment.
"I'm sure we can all agree torture is not a good thing. It was just the means of how they were going about it," said Amanda Berbert , 18, of Centerville, Utah.
Oye is not backing down.
"I really felt l could not just go down and smile for the camera and not say anything," she said in an interview yesterday at her home. "There are some things that are more important than the decorum of protocol."
A US Department of Education spokeswoman said yesterday the students who signed the letter would not be stripped of their scholar titles. "Freedom of speech is one of the cornerstones of our democracy and we're glad American students are exercising a right that so many others around the world aren't able to enjoy," Katherine McLane said.
Oye, 18 , said her Quaker background has greatly influenced her activism, teaching her "to follow the course of what is right." At Wellesley High, she helped an Afghan soap-making cooperative, founded by women under threat from the Taliban, find a market in the United States. She also found time to be on the school's track and cross-country teams.
As a child, her mother said, Oye didn't take naps because she said she "didn't want to miss anything." Oye was encouraged to speak up at the White House by her mother, Willa Michener , who regrets that when she was a presidential scholar in 1968, she did not tell President Lyndon B. Johnson about her opposition to the Vietnam War. Michener took the advice of her favorite teacher, who said there were other ways to protest.
"I would have defied my president, but I didn't want to defy my beloved English teacher," she said.
Michener, 55, a former lawyer for the US Treasury, said her daughter called her by cellphone to tell her what she had done while Michener was touring the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. "When she had the opportunity to make a statement, she took it so I was as pleased as could be," she said yesterday.
Oye's father, Kenneth, 57, an MIT professor who was on business in Switzerland, was proud when he was told, Michener said.
Oye said her activism was also influenced by her grandparents on her father's side, who were in internment camps for Japanese-Americans during World War II. Her grandfather, George Oye , died this spring and she mentioned his experiences in the brief conversation with the president about the letter, she said.
"My grandfather was not angry or bitter after the internment, but he came out with a strong sense of wanting to help people," she said.
Oye wasn't trying to draw attention to herself, she said, but respectfully expressing a view that many Americans share.
"I don't think there are enough opportunities for people to do that, whether they're a general or Cabinet member or the American public," she said. "With all the pain and suffering that happens around the world right now, it would have been extremely inappropriate not to use the opportunity to make a difference."
She plans to study English or international relations in the fall. She said she has no idea what she wants to do, but insists politics is not in her future.
"I hope to never run for political office in my life."
© Copyright 2007 Boston Globe



38 Comments so far
Show All"I'm sure we can all agree torture is not a good thing. It was just the means of how they were going about it," said Amanda Berbert , 18, of Centerville, Utah.
**some scholarly thought
hmmph!
HOW ?
How can we have a birthday celebration that is about freedom when fear is the motivating factor of a nebulous security outside the protection of the Constitution?
With a patriot act and a military commissions act to lead the way to tyranny; is this cause for celebration or for reflection on what we would give away since that first birthday?
Do we have the right , yea , the moral right to give away what belongs to our children and generations into the future? It was given to us to pass on, used but intact, It is our obligation.
"Some other presidential scholars were not happy, saying that the letter's presentation spoiled their moment."
Oh, did the poor widdle skowwers have their fun time spoilwed?
"I'm sure we can all agree torture is not a good thing. It was just the means of how they were going about it," said Amanda Berbert , 18, of Centerville, Utah.
Ladies and gentleman, I am proud to present Amanda Berbert, future presidential candidate for the Democratic Party.
The scholarships should be stripped from those that DIDN'T sign.
Obviously they missed the entire point of their education, and are only focused on one day getting into politics and taking corporate bribes
Does anyone else out there feel as though they are part of some science-fiction alternative-universe dystopia?
Good people, like Mari Oye, again and again are demonstrating courage, honesty, and eloquence as they speak truth to power.
But the Bad Guys do not blink. They keep rolling on, pushing the human race and the planet ever closer to total destruction.
Are we collectively so weak? Is there no power capable of stopping these multitudes of irrational, inchoate human viruses?
Are the Michael Moores, Ralph Naders, Howard Zinns, Noam Chomskys, etc.--like the species as a whole--doomed?
Way to go Oye! But you have to present facts, like the White House memos approving of torture methods without calling them Geneva Conventions violations, the rapes and murders at Abu Graib, etc., so the pinhead cannot just say "I agree."
good work, young scholars.
How does "dub-ya" keep going everyday? All the constant lying to good people and distorting of reality and posing, that can't be good for your mind and soul.
"I'm sure we can all agree torture is not a good thing. It was just the means of how they were going about it," said Amanda Berbert, 18, of Centerville, Utah.
A good God-fearing Mormon like Mitt, no doubt.
Thank God for Mari Oye. Never mind the drivel coming from those who disagree. Consider the source.
These kinds of individuals are badly needed in America in 2007.
Too many students just don't care, made that way by a corporate dominated culture in public schools that only promotes consumption and narcissism.
It is surprising that these students attained the awareness that they have.
I bear you a tiny grudge Ming The Merciful! I read the article and copied the exact same words you did. They seemed somehow to touch upon the essence of something bigger than Mari Oye's commendable, albeit rather prosaic deed. I was ready to unleash a stinging comment. You beat me to it. And your humour instantly erased what I was going to say from my memory.
DavidAKleist said, "Good people . . . speak truth to power. But the Bad Guys do not blink."
Here's a thought I've had for a while. I'll bet that G.W., Laura, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others are on daily medications. Prescription pain pills, anti-depressants or something else that dulls the senses, deepens intransigence and perhaps even stimulates a kind of mental illness. I would not be at all surprised to learn that drugs have been a pivotal factor in all of this.
I've been on anti-depressants and I am outraged by torture, etc. What does that have to do with it? Without the treatment I would be unable even to write on the Internet about how much it bothers me.
formernadervoter said:Too many students just don't care, made that way by a corporate dominated culture in public schools that only promotes consumption and narcissism.
I ask you my fellow weavers on this thread, is this the case?
During the Vietnam war there were too many protesting for the msm to ignore-so what give now. Is it just the fact that there is no draft? Torture is so well documented that only a Dr. James Dobsonites could deny its truth. All Americans were shocked at the brutality of the Japanese in WW2 and the Nazis, and all the forgettable names of countries in Africa so why is it OK now? Are we that afraid of the bogey man? Oooooh. Bin laden, dont sneak into my bed!!!!!. Do Americans have no ability to see them selves innocent and in a Navy brig FOR FUCKING EVER without appeal or being in touch with civilization? Being innocent and being water-boarded and kept in cages like animals with constant humiliation. Fuck the Geneva convention says Gonzales and yet there he is YOUR attorney General. Let's say you think the Geneva Convention is "antiquated" but wouldnt you think that if I torture them they will torture mine?
WELL, HELL NO, none of their asses nor those of their loved ones is ever going to face that moment when you know someone is going to cause you pain you have never known before. I guess when "torture" is just a word to one they are able to toss it about like a ball, it has no meaning its just a tool to be used against someone or for you.
So, back on point. Where are the students?
P.S. Job well done Mari Oye i would like to shake your hand myself-you are a true patriot
Happy Days:
How does "dub-ya" keep going everyday? All the constant lying to good people and distorting of reality and posing, that can't be good for your mind and soul.
HappyDays, the president of the USA does not have a soul. -He sold it to Diablo many years back.
Bob K.:
" I'll bet that G.W., Laura, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others are on daily medications. Prescription pain pills, anti-depressants or something else that dulls the senses, deepens intransigence and perhaps even stimulates a kind of mental illness."
As I posted a while back BobK, Cheney is up to his eyebrows on various medications, some of these are well known to have a very bad affect upon the psyche.
As to BuSh he has gone back to drinking alcohol again.
And the others don't need psychoactive drugs, -they are psycho enough all ready.
Mr. Duncan - No offense intended. However to answer your question, prescription psychoactive drugs have been linked to homicidal, suicidal and other detrimental behaviors.
DavidAKleist said figuratively "the bad guys do not blink." While it is difficult to objectively observe the effects of psychoactive medications on oneself, if I were to look in a mirror and find I no longer blinked it would be cause for concern.
Oye, Oye, Oye! Way to go.
confronting the Prez.
During his photo-op show
Clueless he sez--"I agree"
Somewhere Cheney's teeth
Are gnashing noisily
Later Dana Perino,
The lovely blond flack,
Does damage control,
To cover the chimp's back!
As if General Miller,
Alberto Gonzalez,
Donald Riumsfeld, and crew
Never existed
Had nothing to do,
With Gitmo, Baghram,
And Abu Grahib,
Those were all just accidents?
Mistakes that were made?
Why did the CIA
Extraordinary rendition,
Send prisoners to countries
With a torturing tradition?
The facts are clear
Known to be true,
Except to the president
Who is dumb as a mule.
My daughter is self-taught, was unable to attend university because she suffers from a lifelong debilitating and ultimately terminal illness. There is no cure, other than human stem cells (thanks for nothin, bushmonkey). She is as I write this nearing her end.
Anyway, this condition has had its "upside:" she is a hyper-sensitive, her heightened perception and insight perhaps due to this physical condition (or vise versa!).
So, early in 2000 she saw the bushthug candidate on TV, hadn't a clue who he was (she was not raised in the USA) -- then phoned me in a distraught state of panic to say "I see blood in his mouth, and fangs...and I am nauseous just looking at him. My God, this man is evil personified." She was unconsolable, would not calm down at the idea that he could reach the Oval Office.
Moving along, last week she saw the photo of scholars and read about their hand-written letter handed to bushmonkey. My daughter correctly pointed out the female student second on left of Bush. "She's the brave one," said my own very brave one. "She wrote and handed him the letter.I can see that she is special."
This morning, european time, was not surprised to learn on commondreams that it was indeed the asian-American girl, Ms.Mari Oye, who stood up to bushmonkey. God Bless her, God help us all.
As much as I feel proud of the ones that signed the letter, I am utterly disappointed and dismayed at those who didn't.
Bob K. June 30th, 2007 8:07 pm
What we are dealing with here is UNTREATED MENTAL ILLNESS
Like SOCIOPATHIC or PSCYHOPATHIC disorder, feeling disorder or dry drunk syndrome etc etc etc
Add your own diagnosis....
Mari Oye for Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.
Oh I forgot, the only medication these psychopaths are probably taking is ALCOHOL....
Or add your own NON-prescription drug of choice....
I think we all should send Oye $50 to help with her Yale education. She is exactly the type of person that we want to see with a Yale sheepskin on her wall.
canardtahiti--Thank you so much for sharing the story of your very special and beautiful daughter. Like a rare and lovely flower of which there are too few, she blesses the rest of us with her presience and discernment
There are people with vision that extends beyond optics and then there are those who simply have not been polluted by the poisonous culture of the US. May your daughter find some healing for her situation and thanks again for your post.
dana perino needs a spanking. i would bend her over my knee, lift her dress, lower her panties, and give her such a licking! i would lick her and lick her. she's so HOT!
(sorry. just trying to be funny. that was plagiarized anyway, kind of like condeleeza rice's phd dissertation.)
2/3 of the students wouldn't sign it?
there have been plenty of monsters in history who didn't need to narcotize themselves in order to do their crimes.
"FBI to restrict student freedoms"
Found on http://www.chris-floyd.com/
Are you a US college student or academic researcher? Do you ever travel abroad? Work late? Consult with your colleagues? Sell something on eBay or do anything else to bring in some extra cash? Do you, perchance, have any friends outside the United States?
Then by God, you are probably a terrorist. So says the FBI, which has been gifting college campuses with a set of guidelines to help faculty, staff and students spy on each other. –
Yes, that's what American education needs more of: uninquisitive, unambitious, unfriendly, untraveled but highly docile dullards, peeping into window and under bathroom stalls. (For more on the Bush Administration's helping hand for higher education, see Sentimental Education: Academia Signs Up for Tracking Down Dissent.)
simonhhh, thanks for the chris floyd article. he's great.
thanks to poet for those kind words, I will pass them on.
George evidently said, "We agree. America does not torture people."
There is no need to lie...Christian.
Beautiful Dana belongs right up there with the "Mission Accomplished" banner, the codpiece, Cheney's halo, and the rubber turkey. I guess she doesn't mind being their sex object if it pays well.
"America does not torture people". Conservatives do.
Thank you Miss Oye.
Bravo! We need more Americans confronting Bush...face to face. Our Democratic Congress is not. They are spineless and should be voted out office as dramatically as the Republicans were. We need an independent voice...free of special interests, free of greed. We need more Maris aggressively protesting the immorality, the unethical and criminal behavior of the administration and of Congress. We need an America that values human dignity, equality, peace and humanity.
The students were right to confront Bu$h the inferior. I wonder how many of the others that would have been glad to sign but were afraid of retaliation.
I am actually surprised that Bu$h the inferior responded at all. That his response was an obvious lie and incredibly rude, dismissive, and stupid is no surprise.
canardtahiti -
I have no special powers of insight, but was truly frightened by the idea of a Bush presidency, and could not understand how others did not see the evil in him. Was it just me? Was I overreacting?
When he was running again in 2004, emails flew around by people claiming they saw a halo over his head. Granted, these statements were by Republicans, but still ... What was going on? It seemed like the devil knows how to appear to be an angel.
I hope your daughter is cured. I will hold her in my thoughts, because she is very apparently a special person with special insights.
Would StemPlex help her (by Simplexity) 1-800-800-1300. If you get some material and you think it might help, contact me by email please:
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Doubtless, some of the other students WERE afraid of retaliation. This statement in the article made my skin crawl. "A US Department of Education spokeswoman said yesterday the students who signed the letter would not be stripped of their scholar titles." That was the writer's conclusion and not a direct quote. But simply reading these words, especially for students dependent on scholarships, could impact on other students' decisions in the future. There's no telling what will happen in the future, whether under a Republican administration or with so many politically-placed civil service employees, when one of the signators is job-seeking or pursuing any of a variety of activities. Blacklists wreak havoc on lives.
Frequently those who are blacklisted are respected by their friends, families, and even enemies.
Those who blacklist or cooperate with them are neither respected, trusted, or honored by history. Their friends and co-conspirators are especially careful to plan to neutralize them if they think it might be necessary.
It is small consolation to be right, honest, and true to know who your enemies are, who your friends are, and that your problems are external - not internal attacks of conscience.
Let's not forget that the U.S. is another Cuba, USSR., Poland, Haiti,
Romania, Argentina. There's NO freedom here, or, how can a high school graduate would be afraid to speak up? Why would there be spying into people's homes, at the airport, on buses and trains, and even the kiddie park? Or, have we not followed the events after 9/11?
Being in the public eye at that very moment, our Honorable KIng George The Less, could not do anything but go with the flow.
So, in view of the recent history in our country, how's an eighteen year old going to speak his/her mind?
The culture of terror is working.
canardtahiti - Thanks for sharing your story and your insights with us. None of us would blame you for concentrating exclusively on your family and not being involved in our political commentary. You relate: "Anyway, this condition has had its "upside:" she is a hyper-sensitive, her heightened perception and insight perhaps due to this physical condition (or vise versa!)." There is more in heaven and on earth than we know. We owe it to humanity to discover as much truth as we possibly can. Love to you and your family, especially your lovely daughter.
Bill