Cheney May Meet his Match in Democratic Rep. Emanuel
WASHINGTON - For six years, Vice President Dick Cheney had his way with a compliant Republican-led Congress while dismissing Democrats as nuisances.
Perhaps the most famous example of the Cheney approach came when a Democratic senator tried to make small talk after earlier criticizing the veep. Replied Cheney on the Senate floor: ``Go f--- yourself.''
That was then. Now the Democrats run Congress, and Cheney faces a confrontation this week with a man who's his match in profanity and perhaps his superior at using the machinery of government to back it up.
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., the chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, on Wednesday will propose cutting all appropriations for Cheney's office from the bill that's needed to finance the executive branch.
It's a response to Cheney's assertion that he isn't bound by a presidential order on secrecy because he isn't really part of the executive branch. Cheney says the Constitution makes him unique in government: one foot in the executive branch as next in line to the presidency and the other foot in the legislative branch as presiding officer of the Senate.
The White House says the constitutional argument from Cheney is interesting, but moot. The president's order requires executive agencies to report data about their use of classified documents to the National Archives. Spokeswoman Dana Perino says Bush never meant to include Cheney in the order covering other executive department agencies and that the president is the "sole enforcer'' of his own orders.
But Emanuel is using the argument to ridicule and bludgeon Cheney.
First, Emanuel released a chart showing four branches of government: the executive, the legislative, the judicial and the Cheney.
Then he went to work picking apart Cheney's argument.
``If the vice president truly believes he is not a part of the executive branch, he should return the salary the American taxpayers have been paying him since January 2001, and move out of the home for which they are footing the bill,'' Emanuel said.
Emanuel's proposed amendment would withhold the $4.4 million for Cheney's office until the vice president admits he's in the executive branch or the Government Accountability Office determines which branch Cheney serves in.
The goal is not to cut off the money, but to force a recognition that Cheney is in the executive branch and subject to the order on secrecy.
``The vice president has a choice to make,'' Emanuel said. ``If he believes his legal case, his office has no business being funded as part of the executive branch. However, if he demands executive-branch funding, he cannot ignore executive branch rules.''
A veteran of bare-knuckled politics from hometown Chicago to the Clinton White House, Emanuel is better known than Cheney for anger laced with profanity. He is, after all, a man who once mailed a dead fish to a pollster, a sinister message reminiscent of the "Godfather" mafia saga.
Emanuel's barbed-wire personality is so familiar in Washington that
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney joked this year that ``he's vice-presidential material."
It's still unclear which side will win this clash. What is clear, though, is that this time Cheney ran up against someone who can give as good as he gets.
McClatchy Newspapers 2007
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Show Allterryb - and you think 10% are clean?
"Tony Bliar could no longer keep up the pretence that he was anything but extremely unpopular for leading the UK into an evil, quite unnecessary Iraq invasion, -based solely on lies and deceit."
Financed by his successor with MY MONEY!!
To misquote Dylan:
Rage against the dying of our rights.
I admire Emmanuel's cleverness and his willingness to take on Emperor Cheney. But I wish he would get on board the Kucinich drive and impeach Cheney, which is years overdue for the safety and sanity of our country.
the deeper you look into u.s. politics, the sicker you get! i think 90% of them are dirty.
aventa, Is it possible the train Cheney has been running, with Bush riding along in the left seat, is going to run off of the tracks? Hoo=rah!
Come on Nancy, you got inner strength and determination, you have it in spades. Display your pu---, uh, your balls, and start the process. It's your house now, the small talk is over and it's time to set the table and carve the pigs.
Not to be cynical or anything, but though Cheney may be pulling the Bush puppet strings, he himself is a puppet of many Cheney puppeters in the corporate boardrooms of the multinational corporations. They are the real string pullers. They decide if and when Cheney goes. When Cheney becomes a liability to them, the media hounds will be released and the wheels of Congress will be set in motion to ditch Cheney. The public opinion may influence the puppeteers, but only as far as replacing the puppet with another (perhaps more palatable) puppet. The military-industrial-congressional system remains untouched. In the final analysis, though, the American public may be to blame. There are far too many of us with a little Cheney inside us. We have all been duped into believing the good life means a greedy life of luxury homes and huge SUV's at the expense of all else that makes life worth living, which are generally free. Is it any wonder that we end up with the leaders we have? We get what we deserve.
Hi Evelyn Smith/Kem Patrick,
Yes, ole Cheney DID indeed tell a senator to "go F---" himself -- that senator being the wonderful Patrick Leahy of Vermont. Just 45 minutes ago I read the following (AP wire, www.ap.org): Jun 27, 1:48 PM EDT: White House, Cheney's office, subpoenaed (By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer)
Leahy, who is Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has been persistent and diligent with this. You shouldn't be so rude to senators, Dickie-Boy!
So there is some hope, after all. . . .
Let's see if this Democrat is more than just hot air. Perhaps he's an exhibitionist or maybe the Demos are looking for another diversion. Anything to keep serious issues like the war, healthcare, women's rights to abortion, loss of jobs, etc. is their ploy. Congress is Dallying around and Cheney knows it and will play along for delaying any important and decisive moves coming fron this inept Congress. This Cheney is made of steel, cold and calculating. He's our Iago and it will take more than a few profanities to rattle his cage.
Cut his funding, remove his Secret Service protection, and arrest him for stealing taxpayer funds. Stop the insanity.
Can you imagine Al Gore in 1998 saying that his office is not part of the Executive branch? Their arguments are so insane that people just don't care anymore. If congress lets this one slide i will NEVER vote for another Democrat Or Republican. This is absolute lunacy.
Hi LeeAnnG
Your "balls" comments are correct and your point is well taken. However, I believe women like Hillary have balls and my wife does also. They just don't call them balls, they refer to it as inner stength and determination. Hillary does display that quality. It would probablly sound a little funny for a female to say something like, "I'm gonna do it by golly, ___ I've got a pussy".
Any way, I penned my own letters and wrote them so they didn't attack the person to whom I was writing, and refrained from using any word like Nazi or other such inflamitory words. I want my congressman to read it and not be angered with me and just dismiss me as a faaaaaaaaaar leftist nut case. Which I am not.
Kem Patrick
Get real! Emanuel is the smarmy little bag man to Cheney's Don Corleone. There is no way this K-Street pimp will do anything substantive to (arguably) the most powerful man in the world. But by all means, carry on Emanuel. This stunt may even earn him some credibility with real Dem's, those that exist outside the Beltway. It may even give him enough cover to sneak that atrocious trade deal though the House. If it does, shame on us all.
OK, yak yak. Impeach Cheney, he gets no more media bits, he doesn't care, he's not there, the lights are on and nobody's home. He could and will destroy America if not stopped. IMPEACH CHENEY NOW.
Night before last, while speaking of impeachment possibilities for Bush & Cheney, my best friend challenged me to a $100 bet that they wouldn't get impeached before the 2008 elections. While I admit a possibility exists, the cold hard realist in me accepts the improbability. I wouldn't shake her hand on the bet.
As one of the Americans living well below the poverty line I can ill afford to lose a hundred bucks on such a long shot.
Come on folks! I want that $100; I need that $100; If I don't get that $100 I'll face extinction (high possibility); If I don't get that $100 dollars my country will face extinction (high probability); Without that $100 I might get locked up & tortured (very high probability); Without that $100 I might die...hmmm, well at least I won't go alone since there are now HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE ME.
Let me get this straight: In 2001 Cheney declared that he did not have to release any information about those with whom he spoke on enegy policy. In fact, he has said, with the President's support, that every thing was covered by executive priveledge. If he is not part of the executve branch, he has no priveledge and those Mosler safes in the office we pay for should be immediately opened to congressional scrutiny and oversite.
Ladies and gentlemen, in this corner...a real political "SMACK DOWN."
Don't mess with our President, I mean Vice President Cheney (quack, quack).
If the little meany-boy Rahm Emmanuel was really tough he would call for impeachment of Cheney and Bush and Rumsfeld and others. Any grade-school kid could put on the dog and pony show he has substituted for real action.
Go ahead, hold your breath……turn blue…..and die…
before the Dummocrats will do anything for the people of America. After being a Democrat for more than 30 years I'm giving up. With pissing in the wind tactics like Emmanual's, it is a self-delusion to think Democrats will do anything. I don't have a piss umbrella. I am fed up with their position on immigration, they haven't done a damn thiing about the Iraq, uh Bush, war, they haven't done anything about education, or national health care, and only gave a nod to saving the planet. I am reregistering Independent, to hell with primaries, and to hell with voting if shithead candidates wind up as the two choices.
If anyone can give me one good reason, just one, to continue to be a registered Democrat, let me know.
Kucinich has the right ideas, but I do not think he is electible and I don't think he can stand up to the insane world leaders.
And if Cheney has one foot in Executive Branch and one in the Senate, then somebody ought to just cut one off, it doesn't matter much which one, really.
Rahm and Dick are both neocons. Therefore they are both on the same side and both have caused the mess in the Middle East. This is all just a delay tactic from the possibility of Dick's impeachement. It is a total dog and pony show for the people and don't be fooled. If Rahm wanted to really do something he would call for the impeachement of the VP. Trust me he won't that is the last thing he wants. I would also like to add that if Congress impeached Cheney and Bush it would expose their own complicity in the current mess and that's why they don't call for impeachement as it would highlight their own hypocrisy.
A crabby and picky point: it's MARTIAL law, not marshall law. Marshall Plan maybe is what ppl are thinking when they missspellll this. But anyway, we must avoid it (its implementation); we all know how Cheney et al. would just love to have us under its talon-like grip.
former English major
Kim Thompson's letter was great except for one thing. Balls have nothing to do with courage. It's an extremely sexist way of thinking: "Balls = masculine and therefore strong and good, Pussy = feminine and therefore weak and bad" just encourages the current cultural and political atmosphere of male dominance and superiority.
It's bad enough when men use this kind of language when they are referring to other men. But when women tell other women to "put their balls on the table" it becomes worse than absurd. How many times do we need to read or hear about the "feminization" or "pussificaton" of something as an insult to realize that this is a real put-down of women. Having the equipment that produces testosterone does NOT make someone superior or even ensure that the person will do the right thing. The fact that women ever buy into this is disturbing.
You've got to be kidding. Emmanuel is so backwards he actually told freshman Democrats to avoid appearing on Steven Colbert's show. This guy is a hawk and a master of diversion. He continues to develop methods to divert Democrats from taking effective action against Bush such as impeaching Bush/Cheney or voting to suppport the troops by defunding the war. Instead he proposes non-binding resolutions, defunding the executive component of the Office of the VP, and on and on. Those actions simply divert Democrats and keep the corporate, leadership wing of the Democratic Party in charge of the Party.
It's Rahm Emmanuel-think that will lead enough progressives out of the Democratic Party and into a third party that the Dems may lose in 2008, despite the strong desire of the American people to vote against the Republicans.
Respect to Evelyn / Kem. xx
~Your 'inner eye' sees clearly enough m'dear, that's what really counts!
Scienceforchildren: keep writing your songs; -cultural protest is integral to all social movements striving for beneficial change.
**When minds and hearts change, so then too, -the outer world accordingly.**
We outside of the USA can't properly write to your Congress etc, to pressure them do the right and honorable thing, but nonetheless, we do as we can, to try to ensure all venomous snakes and scorpions (in whatever nation) are finally put in secure glass cages where they can no longer harm the world and it's peoples.
Diseased reptiles snuck into positions of power because we were not being awake and active enough. Being sneak thieves and rotten-to-the-core opportunists, they took full advantage of the fact we were sleeping our hedonistic dreams to prise open the door and steal freedom's key.
Now, -at the eleventh hour- the people are awakening, (-albeit only after the blood of too many innocents has been spilt) ~ but at least later is better than never...
Here in the UK we have, (as of today) -at last seen the back of Tony 'BuSh's Poodle' Blair, ~ HURRAY!
[We pray his successor may be just a TAD better!] :(
Tony Bliar could no longer keep up the pretence that he was anything but extremely unpopular for leading the UK into an evil, quite unnecessary Iraq invasion, -based solely on lies and deceit.
It took us a long time to get rid of this lying, now completely insane megalomaniac, --but we did it in the end, - by keeping up relentless pressure, via blogs, phoning, emails, demonstrations, writing to the media, and all other available means...
So too, you progressive American brothers and sisters, can and WILL affect the course of events in your country, -just as long as you KEEP UP A RELENTLESS PRESSURE!
To use an automobile analogy: If you keep a good pressure in your movement's 'tyres' your car will keep on rolling until it gets to the 'Holy Destination', -that of seeing the end of having a malignant chimpanzee and his dark cabal infesting lucifer's Whore House on Capitol Hill.
Pump on darlings, pump on! :)
xx
and Leahy said (I am inventing here);
"I can't do it better than you, Dick"
That was the war-criminal and corporatist (who should be impeached and then condemned to death by being flayed alive and incinerated), Cheney who said, "Fuck yourself!" to the Honorable Senator from Vermont, Patrick Leahy in 2004 after a brief argument regarding Cheney's association with Halliburton.... Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html
The true reasons the so-called Democrats are not going ahead with impeachment is obvious: they are geniunely concerned about the real need of an extraordinarily empowered executive. A few more "terror" attacks and we all know what can happen quite easily.
But Remember Chile 1973. The generals promised to take over for only a "few months", then promptly forgot their promise....for 17 grisly years!! Wake up Folks!, and get Out in the Streets at least once a week. You'll sleep better and others may someday follow....at least let's enjoy the ride and try and do the right thing. Please tell me we can get through this without graffitti ! Looks so tacky after a week.....lets impeach before that becomes necessary!
I thought Shotgun Dick had a bad blood pump (can't call it a heart). Why can't the bastard just die?
Hey, whatever happened to the D.C. Madame. That story sure disappeared quickly. Think Cheney was trying to recharge the batteries in his pacemaker through a different outlet??
Stray Cat, like that name you've chosen. I agree with you and understand Posner's thoughts, just don't agree with the some of the wording of his letter. A masterful general, an emperor, once said somthing like this. "I wold rather face a thousand cannon, than the pen of a single writer." That was Napolean. Then what did one of our forefathers do with the pen? Thomas Paine and Common Sense. He surely helped start a revolt. Yes Stray Cat, there is strength in numbers, if they pull together and select a leader and suport that leader. Will we? I'm afraid to answer. Hope so.
Dick Cheney before he dicks you!!!
Why would those RATs want to impeach Cheney if all they think that the administration screwed up the post-war planning, as opposed to actually believing they committed an illegal act?
And if Cheney is gone? Who is Emanuel going to rely on to push for the war with Iran?
"But Emanuel is using the argument to ridicule and bludgeon Cheney."
While I like the thought of ridiculing and bludgeoning Cheney and others, I think it is important to focus on the objective---IMPEACH THE BASTARDS!
Couple of things wrong with this whole confrontation: why go public with it? Why not just quietly stop funding the VP's office? It's just a charade, not even a warm up to something like impeachment.
And who's going to support Impeachment? Not a single one of them cowards. They've been bought off. They've bought the lie that they will win the White House in '08 in exchange for letting sleeping dogs sleep.
This little, tiny, toothless charade by a sideshow circus freak is just embarrassing. Think the WH cares? They're going along with it, and they'll buy his silence too.
Impeach might have worked if these cowards would have just pulled the trigger on it and move. But since it's gonna nowhere it has no energy in it. I love Kucinich as well as the rest of those who do, but he should have known better.
How about another test, Congress starts impeachment and we see if their ratings go up or down?
I was happy when I first heard R.E.'s proposal, but if we think critically about it, the measure he is proposing will give Dick Cheney exactly what he wants. The Dick isn't going to close up his office just because the legislature cuts his funding but having his office recognized in this way as not part of the Executive will give him the excuse to hide away all the papers that are so sorely needed to get to the bottom of this criminal administration's criminal deeds.
I think we all agree that Rahm Emmanuel should be supporting HR333 instead of this silly measure!
Thanks for listening!
DING DONG I WISH THE DICK WAS DEAD!
At least someone is trying to get an answer from him. I agree all funding should be cut, but they should still IMPEACH!!!
I've written to Emanuel, thanking him for having the courage to speak up to the Dick. I would even congratulate a bottom feeder like Lieberman for showing that kind of intestinal fortitude, small chance.
I'm no fan of Emanuel, but I'm a fan of this kind of confrontation. If we catch our Senators and Congressmen doing something right, let's be consistent in encouraging them. Enough positive feedback might encourage some of these invertebrates to develop a backbone.
We have voices, let's use them.
Cheney......IMPEACH, TRY, CONVICT, IMPRISON!
I agree with all of the above. It is time to stop playing silly gradeschool games and get serious. Cutting funding for Cheney's department is a good idea, but we all know that nothing will come of it, it will die a quick death and we will hear no more of it. For a minute there, I had this vision of him being 'homeless' but it didn't last. As someone said "He isn't in this for the money" and he could easily afford to run his own department if it meant continuing to corrupt everything he touches. All Americans should be outraged by his bahavior and demand that Congress start impeachment proceedings immediately, instead of thinking up more games to play.
Rahm Emanuel is a DINO, serving the same korporatist masters as Cheney-pig. Regardless of the details of their little spat, you can look for absolutely nothing of substance to come from it, because they are both on the same side.
After a little fluff and hoo-raw, it will fade, just like every other "oppositional" move by this do-nothing, korporatist Congress, which is much more interested in maintaining the perks and reelection chances of the members than in doing the job they were hired to do--rein in the appalling thievery and criminality of the Bush crime family.
I, George W Bush, aka, Dubyb & shrub, the president of these United States, do hereby declare by smirking that Emanuel is wrong. I am the "sole enforcer" as well as the sole interpreter of "my own" rules, and I say my rule does not cover Cheney and me. If that doesn't satisfy you, you can take the matter up in my Supreme Court.
Signed:
The Decider, the Commander guy, the Ruler, the Crime Against the Humanity guy…
Impeachment should be the first step, with a war-crimes trial to follow. Gestures to play with funding and housing miss the seriousness of Cheney's apparent high crimes.
Now is a good time to go after him for two or three other things too.
one foot in the executive side
one foot in the legislative side
and both feet and in his evil mouth.
Just because Cheney has a secret army and is part of a shadow government doesn't mean he is a god. He is one thing and one thing only and that is a TRAITOR!
Impeach NOW b4 that marshall law order gets used.
Dana Perino finally confirms the truth we've known all along:
"[The issue] can be resolved either by the Justice Department or, as I am telling you as the president's spokesman, he did not intend for the vice president to be seen as separate from himself," Perino told reporters."
Co-presidents, Bush just the front moron who sees them as "one." Is there a Guinness record for most insane leaders?
Let's face the truth and admit that the American people are to blame for the apathy that has permitted delusional idiots to be in positions of influence . That being said ,I still feel these guys are guilty of crimes against humanity and should be removed from power by whatever means are necessary.
Playing these games of nuance may be fun and can throw light on interesting constitutional conundrums, but let's start playing for keeps: impeachment.
Emanuel may be a useful pit-bull where Cheney is concerned. But he is also the quintessential corporate democrat, a quasi-neocon, and uncritically comitted to the Israeli interest. Further, if perversely framed evidence of the Pelosi party's past and predictable failure to drive or even encourage significant leftward change.
Political grandstanding.
When it comes down to foreign policy or even domestic ruling elite interests, there ain't no light between Cheney and the DLC posterboy.
I want to watch him leaving the White House in handcuffs.
Did Cheney actually tell a US senator to go F--- yourself? Wow, wonder if he gave that advice to any of his family members.
There is no light involved with Cheney. It is all secretive, all dark and all evil all of the time. Would that we were rid of this pestilence that is called Bush and the disease that is called Cheney. That will be a good day when the world no longer has to deal with this administration. Well, it's less than 600 days and counting. I pity the fool that has to sit in the same seat to which Bush has brought such torturous shame and criminality. It will be hard to rid the air of his fetid presence and that of Cheney and his grim reaper appeal. May they rot in their hell…
If we all sent a copy of Richard Posner's letter, would it not be possible for the Cheney gang to easily trace us? Many are reluctant to post their real names and or addresses. A copy of Posner's letter would be a DEAD giveaway.
wait a minute, rahm! you want something to stop, you cut off its funding?
i'm a little confused. i think the constitutional remedy for cheney is impeachment.
but if you are thrilling to the power of cutting off funds, there's a whopper of a thrill just waiting for you to grab it. let me see, what could it possibly be...what could i possibly cut by billions & billions of dollars...what funding do the vast majority of americans want me to cut...
rahm has a stiffy that he's found a way to create some political theater to look like some opposition. so afraid of the word impeachment....
Can't hurt to write your representative - often - and tell them you want Cheney out NOW. Even if your rep is a Republican. They all took the same oath of office.
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Please consider supporting Congressman Kucinich's Resolution 333, seeking to investigate allegations of high crimes or misdemeanors by our Vice President.
I appreciate the whole liberal against conservatives attitude in our country, but party affiliation should never supersede the sworn oath of office or the duty of a patriot.
The members of the House of Representatives have an overridding obligation (as well as an oath sworn to God) to act as a necessary check when the possibility of unconscionable actions within the Administrative Branch may occur.
Just sent my copy of Posner's letter & added my name to it. Gave real address too. Bring it on!
Posner: Damn fine letter.
Evelyn says:If we all sent a copy of Richard Posner's letter, would it not be possible for the Cheney gang to easily trace us? Many are reluctant to post their real names and or addresses. A copy of Posner's letter would be a DEAD giveaway.
You're right people are afraid. But,just being on these blogs,web sites, etc...you're already on his list. Let's make that list as long & as powerful as we can. If the pen truly is mightier than the sword, then let's scare the crap out of them for a change! The Movement is begun.
Doing nothing is not an alternative. Living in fear of our own government (again)is not acceptable.
Have courage,Evelyn. You are not alone.
IMPEACHMENT! (kinda rolls right off the tongue don't it?) SAY IT LOUD! SAY IT OFTEN! WRITE IT DOWN!
Big fucking deal. Cheney has more money than God. He can finance himself and his oligarch cronies will gladly help him.
Hey don't be led astray by Rahm Emanuel. He's 100% pro terrorist Israel just like Cheney and the rest of Bush's cabinet.
"The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information." - Henry A. Wallace
Don't count on a DLC jerkoff like Emanuel to do anything substantive.
Here's the funniest thing.
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/06/26/teen_presidential_scholars_confront_president_bush_on_the_question...
50 High school senior scholars have the courage and bravery to stand up to Bush and Cheney, UNLIKE this useless and cowardly congress. THe United States Congress, our beloved "representatives" have just been upstaged and bested by 50 teenagers.
mastershake:
Isn't that awesome? On a couple of other discussion boards last night, I pointed that out. Absolutely hilarious!! Of all people, high school kids! I would hi-five each of them for having the courage to stand up to Chimpy! What would be priceless is to see the look on Chimpy's face when they totally caught him by surprise!
Yes, lets run this "Dick" out of town.
My money is on Emmanuel: TKO in the third round with a left-hook. Cheney will go down clutching is chest, and someone will run out from behind the curtain and whack Emmanuel in the head with a dead fish and knock him out cold.
THROW OUT THAT DO-NOTHING PELOSI THEN IMPEACH CHENEY!
better yet, take the secret service away from him.... He's not in the exec branch? he's not bound by the constitution? he's just an ordinary citizen working for the corperations. Take away the secret service protection of him, he won't last more than an our before people start hurling bricks at his gigantic head.
does congress ever wonder why it's damn approval ratings are in the freakin 20's!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't do jack shit, sure as hell doens't stand up to this corrupt admin. More proof that they're all on the same corperate team. What a bunch of sandy vaginas.
I urge everyone to write their congressperson, if Democrat, and tell them they were elected for a reason, and to act brave and confident, not be cowering timid wimps.
More hot air from the Democrats. Just as impeachment has been taken off the table, so will the ramifications of this unconstitutional, executive branch power-play be minimized by our so-called "representatives of the people" as they allow another piece of the Constitution to be flushed down the toilet.
The United States Constitution, or what's left of it, doesn't seem to fit on the $$$balance sheet of either party or in any branch of this corrupt government.
It is about time we hear about a Democrat with some TEETH! Hey Pelosi, hey Waxman are you paying attention!
Tell Cheney I have a foot I'd like to place somewhere.
There'll never be an impeachment because there is not enough of a majority to do it and because the Democrats are proving to be as bad as the Republicans. However, there is the ability to remove funding from the VP and from the war. That is not far fetched and if the Pres and VP are figting for their money EVERY DAY, then they aren't going to be doing mischief elsewhere.
Tying them up in endless financial problems will have an effect on them and it is going to be as good as it gets as there is not going to be an impeachment no way no how.
CHENEY HAS MET HIS MATCH IN EMANUEL? IS IT ME OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT RUTHLESS, CUNNING, DUPICITOUS SHARKS HERE?
MAYBE I'LL READ THE PIECE LATER - IF I HAVE N-O-T-H-I-N-G ELSE TO DO....
"if the congress has time for this type of shenanigans" This from Poet.
I agree.
I think there is a time honored remedy for little boys who behave like this.
What disgraceful behavior.
I am insulted that they are doing it on my time and my dollar, and worse yet, on the backs of all who are embroiled in the tragedy that is Iraq. This Nation and the World deserve better.
As the 'bought and paid for' politicians dither and shuffle; the destructive parasites, a pyschotic monkey and an ugly sick fat man that are feeding on our children's bodies, continue the perversions that distinguish them from decent people.
The writer is as phoney as Rahm Emanuel. Go f*k yerselves, hypocrits! Where was Emanuel for the past 12 years of fascist upward mobility (including wet willy's presidency?) Don't put hope in this charlatan.
I don't believe we will see anyone impeached, and am sorry to believe it. However if it ever does come to pass, many cowardly dictators who end up trapped, take the path Hitler did.___ That would suit me.
Youtube has 1200 entries right now when you search for impeach cheney.
Grow some balls man, you are an american and if paris h can do some jail time then maybe you could too if only to say IMPEACH CHENEY
I implore everyone to make a youtube vid saying your reasons for
or just to say it.
It it time to come out of the closet. Get off your computer and grab a fatty marker and go write on some public property. Grab some cardboard and make some freeway blogging happen.
Cause Cheney ain't a dick, He's an Asshole.
And there are 3 types of people in this world: Pussys, Dicks, and Assholes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR591gazV2Y
Don't worry, Cheney will have the last laugh. He knows the constitution, a document I doubt many in congress have read closely, and tradition as well. The Senate signs his pay checks, not the president.
Am I afraid? Why do most here use code names, I often have put my real name on my blogs. "KEM PATRICK" __ I just wrote that blog for the ones who are fearful of spying, understand it's a genuine issue. Anyway, I preferred Kim Thompson's letter, which he wrote in this comment section. It seemed to be much more cordial and less likely to be shredded and served the same purpose in a most satisfactory manner.
Afraid? When I was flying in Vietnam, (two SE Asia tours, I was always afraid, was every damn day and every nght when the rockets came thumpig in. I once sat in a dark bunker and pissed in my pants. I'm afraid of what is happening to America and to our planet. I have kids and grandkids and I wonder and fear for their futures. I'm afraid Cheney won't be impeached or fall over dead. I'm afraid no decent person will replace GWB. I'm afraid I may someday lose the sight of the only eye I have left, the other was shot out. I'm afraid we argue amongst ourselves too often andmaybe siouxrose quit due to that. I'm not afraid of dying. I believe in after-life and in Jesus Christ and that I'll be Okay when I do die. But I'm afraid that far too many who profess to be Christians are not! (Know them ___ by their deeds.)
I love you guys, and love Common Dreams. We all want the same things, among them are honesty in life and government, security, decent living, good education for our kids and fairness. And we all want Cheney sent to the moon, or Mars. or anyplace where he is never, ever seen again! I'm done! Kem Patrick
Here's a copy of what I just wrote to Pelosi. Please write something yourself. Can they ignore us forever?
Ms. Pelosi,
I am writing to encourage you to support HR333.
How can we get you to do the bidding of the American People? What do we say or do to get you to understand that you are, theoretically at least, employed by the people of San Francisco and now the rest of the United States (74%)?
Do you somehow receive money and support from corporations that profit from the status quo? If so, stop representing yourself as something different and stop representing me and my neighbors. No one does anything without a pay off of some sort. What is yours?
Imagine for a moment how frustrating it is for us to have believed that there would be change, only to have found out that it was just so much lip service. Imagine feeling so completely powerless in the face of this spiraling downward of our country. You have the power - we have given it to you - and I am asking that you put Impeachment on the table. You know what has happened. In the end, unless you make the right move, you will be complicit in some of the worst crimes in history. Is this the legacy you imagined when you started out your career?
So, Nancy - You Go, Girl! Get out there and Do The Right Thing! You know what to do. Get your balls out, put them on the table and take a chance. You will be the hero of the vast majority of the American People (and the world, for God's sake; more notable than Paris herself) and your name will go down in history as someone that made a positive difference, as opposed to leaving your mark as part of the problem.
Impeach George W Bush and Richard Cheney for the criminals that they are. Set yourself above them and not above the law. Please, Nancy. We're waiting. The whole world is waiting.
Regards,
Kim Thompson
San Francisco, CA
Planet Earth
Yet another round of fake political brawling that leads to well - no where. The media loves to invent these A versus B contests, yesterday it was Pelosi versus Bush, now Emmanuel versus Cheney. Professional wrestling is a million times more real than these silly games.
"Antonin G. Scalia, "arguably the Court's most colorful jurist today," has conspired with Richard B. Cheney the 46th Vice-President of the United
States of America to subvert the U. S. Constitution. The question now is not only about these " high crimes and misdemeanors," but moreover about a larger effort that includes other justices of the court and other members of the Bush administration, members of Congress, their staff and lobbyists. The on-going subversion of law, today has cost many their civil liberties and all the purse of the US government.
Today the evidence is now broad and conclusive; it is only for the magistrate and the people to file the charges in our courts, in our congress and in our local and state governments."
Impeach that mf.
ps. i love your signature, Saila!
CHENEY TO MEET HIS MATCH IN BEELZEBUB...soon, one can hope
"All Americans should be outraged by his bahavior and demand that Congress start impeachment proceedings immediately, instead of thinking up more games to play."
It's a comin' 'roun.
It's not coming round. I go all into it in a new song. I'm a long time commondreams fan but don't often comment. But my new song is the best comment I can make on this mess. You can hear it at www.myspace.com/scienceforchildren
theres another choice to make
and your brain takes shape
among all the satellite feeds
but the information's bland
and all the money changes hands
there's a shotgun pointed
at your head
by the man
so
off with your head
off with your head
theres a two-bit con
on your television set
he's gonna
take
off your head
it used to be about discovery
it used to be about beauty
but the the cars came
and the television
we had our brains drained
by
focus groupin politicians
dollar bill makes all decisions
in the war on brains.
there's a war on brains.
microwave streams
ride energy
into our heads
like laser beams
so off with our heads.
off with our heads.
they're sucking out the logos
its the best way to control us
with the oil fields
and television
focus groups and politicians
dollar bill makes all decisions.
in the war on brains.
More Rahm grandstanding....unless he actually follows through on it...yes, cut off ALL THE MONEY FOR CHENEY'S OFFICE. DO IT!!!
Does anyone actually believe this DLC operative will?
If he's serious, he would be leaping onto the Kucinich "IMPEACH CHENEY" bandwagon. And, from what I see of most of the DLC crowd of Democrats, none of them have the spine to do it.
And, by the way, I'm sick of hearing them whine that they don't HAVE THE VOTES!!! I'd like to see each one of our electeds have to go down in history as NOT HAVING STOPPED THIS RENEGADE PRESIDENT AND HIS MINIONS. And they will. All of the DEMOCRATS who do nothing and take no position will be answering to the INDEPENDENTS who put them into the majority in '06. The only thing they have going for them is the continual screw-ups of the Republicans.
DEMOCRATS AWAKEN!!!! STOP FUNDING CHENEY. STOP FUNDING THE WAR. IMPEACH THE CRIMINALS WHO ARE RUNNING OUR COUNTRY.
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So now we have two political thugs fighting for $--
As far as I am concerned, if the congress has time for this type of shenanigans they sure have time for impeachment (HR 333--sponser Dennis Kucinich). Get rid of this clown.
in typical corporate-media fashion, this article frames profound questions--about the constitution, about checks and balances, about the rule of law--in terms of style ("bare-knuckled, barbed-wire" etc.) over substance.
that said, anything that could possibly throw a monkey wrench into cheney's fascist machinery is to be welcomed, even if it comes from a democrat.
A fine letter Kim Thompson. Hope everyone writes one, I have and will write more to all of the candidates running for office. Maybe some will bring up the subject of impeachment in the next month or so. We'll see.