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Bush to New Orleans Jazz Legend: "Pick Up All the Trash"
Before Hurricane Katrina destroyed much of New Orleans and ruined many of its cultural landmarks, people from all over the city -- all over the country, in fact -- would flock to the Bywater section to see trumpeter Kermit Ruffins' weekly gig. I was in New Orleans immediately before Katrina and had the privilege of hearing Ruffins play. Inside a small, smoky bar, with his band positioned literally inches from its raucous audience, Ruffins commanded the room, using popular R&B arrangements like John Legend's "Ordinary People" as his platform for long, cathartic improvisations.After the show, I spent twenty minutes talking music with Ruffins' sidekick, the then-19-year-old prodigy, Trombone Shorty. A few of Shorty's young friends stood nearby and listened in. The street was filled with the sound of easy chatter from liquor-sodden revelers who had stepped outside for a smoke. A Stevie Wonder song drifted from inside the bar. I think it was "My Cherie Amor." I was a world away from the dour east coast jazz scene where staggering door fees, drink minimums, and dress codes created an uptight atmosphere that favors the well-to-do, excludes young people, and keeps listeners at a distance from performers, who are often conferred undue reverence.
Anyone who saw Ruffins in his element knew that behind the Bush administration's incompetent response to Katrina was a deep-seated disrespect for the culture that thrived exclusively in New Orleans. The White House had no idea what was at stake when Katrina bore down on the Gulf Coast. To Bush and his cronies, New Orleans was little more than a cesspool of black Democrats. By the time the city was flooded, their consituency was safely evacuated.
Yesterday, George W. and Laura Bush hosted Ruffins and his band, the Barbeque Swingers, at the annual Congressional Picnic. Bush's remark to Ruffins is the ultimate symbol of his disdainful attitude towards the culture of New Orleans that he allowed to drown under the floodwaters of the Mississippi:
MR. RUFFINS: Well, thanks for having us.
THE PRESIDENT: Kermit Ruffins and the Barbeque Swingers, right out of New Orleans, Louisiana. (Applause.)
MR. RUFFINS: Thank you. Thanks for having us. We're glad to be here.
THE PRESIDENT: Proud you're here. Thanks for coming. You all enjoy yourself. Make sure you pick up all the trash after it's over. (Laughter.)
God bless you, and may God bless America. Thanks for coming. (Applause.)
END 8:12 P.M. EDT


45 Comments so far
Show AllWhatever possessed a half a country to think this little frog with warts was going to turn into a handsome prince only leaves one to wonder about half the countries mentality? He is about as cultured as a mushroom! I know don't insult the tasty mushroom. The point is he is about as far from a leader as this country could get. I wouldn't want him leading a troop of boy scouts. No doubt he would f... up a weekend outing! We are the laughing stock of the entire world for keeping this moron on as President. He hasn't done a thing for this country but to screw it up royally.
This is the same a-hole that winked at queen mum
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6314877770412000717&q=bush+wink+queen&total=10&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Big deal, I'm going with REASON on this one. All you people get peeved over the stupidist things. The "Big Question" here is, did they pick up the trash or not? Inquireing minds want to know.
President Bush suffers from what I call the "teenage hangover syndrome". It takes a certain lack of respect,some insensitivity, it's immature, and narrow minded. Most people get over this by the time they are 22.
"utsusemia June 24th, 2007 12:59 am
Lobo Gris:
You think the White House faked the video?"
I wouldn't put it past them to edit it.
To add to Daveg955's comments;
2000 on the campaign trail,
Bush: What do they think Social Security is? Some kind of government program?
During a 2000 campaign debate,
Bush: I'm not into nation building
During a 2004 Campaign debate,
Bush: If you hear wiretap, a wiretap requires a warrant, nothing has changed.
If Bush were to look out a window in the White House tomorrow morning and mention that the Sun was rising in the east accompanied by a video news release from the white House showing it rising, I would still want independent confirmation before believing it.
"It might be nice, or emotionally satisfying, to catch him revealing his disdain in public, but it isn't necessary"
It's neither nice nor emotionally satisfying but it is important as long as there is anyone out there that still believes that he is honorable and honest.
"Personally, I wonder why Ruffins is on that stage with Bush in the first place…"
I could explain why I think he was, but you can figure it out for yourself.
Besides, considering that the audience were members of Congress, being dismissive of them, a co-equal branch of Government, is even worse than being dismissive of Ruffins.
Lobo Gris
Lobo Gris:
You think the White House faked the video? I'm not basing my interpretation on the White House news release, I'm basing it on what I see with my own eyes.
And actually, yes, Blumenthal did issue a correction on his blog. A member of the press corps apparently emailed him to say that he was there and Bush was addressing the audience. It's obvious Bush was addressing the audience. It's not a "give him the benefit of the doubt card", it's just what happened. You think what he did or did not say to this jazz musician somehow has anything to do with the magnitude of the crime perpetrated in New Orleans? This is a minor distraction from the major issue. If it had actually happened as Blumenthal describes above, it would just be an insult on top of a devastating injury, but it didn't. The most compelling evidence for his dismissive attitude towards the plight of New Orleans is his actions in New Orleans. Period. It might be nice, or emotionally satisfying, to catch him revealing his disdain in public, but it isn't necessary. We know what he has (and hasn't) done.
Personally, I wonder why Ruffins is on that stage with Bush in the first place...
Reason and Lobo Gris:
Actually, Reason is correct. I've looked at the video, and Ruffins isn't even with Bush when he says "you all" pick up the trash. He's talking to the members of congress in the audience. Not Ruffins, who is probably setting up his instruments.
I mean, it's nice to have obvious things to make fun of Bush for, but you'd think Max Blumenthal could have bothered to look up the video before he posted this...it's sort of embarrassing.
Watch the video here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070619-13.html
While I can understand the attempt above to put Bush's remark in context, it is of little consequence considering that his presidency has been little more than a shell game of lies and power grabs."The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- George W. Bush 9-13-2001Six months later..."I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- George W. Bush 3-13-2002Of course it wasn't. His attention was elsewhere."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."
- an interview with TVP posted on the White House web siteAnd yet in an interview on "60 Minutes," another shift in reality..."I strongly reject that this administration hasn't been straight with the American people. The minute we found out they didn't have weapons of mass destruction, I was the first to say so."
So was his 'pick up the trash' remark taken out of context? Perhaps, but considering that Bush has proven that he will say just about anything to suit his reality of the moment, it's not likely.
utsusemia June 24th, 2007 12:04 am
Reason and Lobo Gris:
Actually, Reason is correct. I've looked at the video, and Ruffins isn't even with Bush when he says "you all" pick up the trash. He's talking to the members of congress in the audience. Not Ruffins, who is probably setting up his instruments.
I mean, it's nice to have obvious things to make fun of Bush for, but you'd think Max Blumenthal could have bothered to look up the video before he posted this…it's sort of embarrassing.
Watch the video here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070619-13.html
What is kind of embarassing is that someone would refer us to a White House "news release" to justify something Bush did or didn't do.
As I said Bush has already used up all of his "let's give him the benefit of the doubt" cards.
If Blumenthal admits making a mistake or there is some reliable INDEPENDENT news agency video release then I'm ready to look at it. Btw who edits White House news releases? Oh yeah the White House.
Lobo Gris
Hey Dubbya, it happened on YOUR watch! YOU clean it up you clown!!!
"As I said Bush has already used up all of his "let's give him the benefit of the doubt" cards."
Oh absolutely. I've never given him the benefit of the doubt. I put not a thing past him.
Hell, I still think someone blew up the levees.
SHAME!!! The Katrina disaster is an American goddamn SHAME!!! God, even Fox News couldn't hide their guilt.
"Reason June 23rd, 2007 10:02 pm
Let's try to cool down and slow down a bit and approach this logically. Did Bush tell *Ruffins* to pick up the trash? I think most likely not. Follow my reasoning. Bush says,"
Bush has already used up all of his "let's give him the benefit of the doubt" cards and is getting close to the last all of his "get out of jail free cards" too.
Lobo Gris
Another one for the Great Book of Bush quotes.
Bush is trash...
It's very interesting to observe what people "joke" about. I'm sure this could have been taken out of context, but you'd think the leader of the free world would be a bit more sensitive and diplomatic... but you'd be wrong.
That the people of this country elected the varmit is beyond belief. Just like Reagan, once...shame on him, twice it is clearly our fault.
Nothing Mr, Bush does surprises me.
What does surprise me is what people are willing to put up with from him.
Even though he has "fallen in the polls", he still has supporters. What kind of people are these who live among us, who would support such an arrogant, swaggering, fool? A war criminal from a long line of war criminals and war mungers. He also comes from a long line of social parasites that continue to reproduce, and have their admirers and imitators.
Yellow Horse
Bush and Cheney are scum.
Perhaps someone would take up Pat Robertson's recommendation for Chavez, with this criminal. I won't say the word because it may be picked up by Homeland Security. But, you know what I mean, don't you? On the other hand, they are so stupid they wouldn't know what I mean, anyway.
Peace,
st john
Katrina is certainly at the top of the list of the crimes of the Bush administration. It is something that makes me feel guilt every time I think of it. Guilt and anger. The guilt is some vestige of a belief in democracy. I suppose at that time I thought there were limits to the harm our government could do. Sure, they could abridge our freedoms and create war in our name, but could they REALLY abandon a major US city in one of the worst national disasters in history? It didn't even occur to me, to tell you the truth. It might have been during the disaster that I completely lost faith in the United States government. At least, it started with the immediate aftermath of Katrina. But the Bush response to this DAY has violently strangled any bit of faith in his (deeply hidden) humanity I might have harbored. I know great numbers of people who left their lives and went to the aid of New Orleans. I know a lot of people who gave money and supplies, labor and time. I know people who hosted the displaced and supported them, in various ways, in their exile. So, my faith in humanity was not shaken, but my faith in the humanity of those we permit to hoard our resources for collective, and immediate, action was utterly destroyed. Again, not in the first five days when I thought Bush's behavior was reprehensible. But in the years that have followed, because he was never SHAMED into doing the right thing. Sure, he wasn't touched by his OWN conscience, but even in the face of OURS he stood indifferent.
It is not suprise that he asked Mr. Ruffins to clear away the trash. The question is whether it was a joke in poor taste about the state of New Orleans? Or was it a joke in poor taste about racial roles in American society? Did he see this African American man as worthy only of clearing away the trash? We say a lot in our humor, and little of it is actually funny. Whatever Mr. Bush was trying to tell us about himself and his view of the world. It wasn't funny. It was a peak into the mind of a sociopath whom we should remove from office on the grounds that he is not possess the psychological fitness to be running free in society, let alone LEADING society. As Vonnegut would have told us, Bush was born without a conscience. Without any vestige of empathy for anyone unlike himself. Rich, White and Arrogant. Though quite aware that Bush was not elected to office either time he gained it, I am ashamed that there were enough Americans who voted for him to make the election stealable. It is not too late to impeach him. To recover some of our humanity. And it is not to late to mass our resources to restore New Orleans to what it was BEFORE Katrina and to do our VERY BEST to protect it from another such disaster in the future.
Following in text of a message I sent on May 23, 2006, to Senators Boxer and Feinstein and Speaker Pelosi of CA and to my local Rep. John Campbell, R-CA. It still holds true and more than ever.
I just sent the following to Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Boxer and Feinstein. Please read it and consider what I have to say.
To Whom It May Concern...Nancy Pelosi and Members of the U.S. House of Respresentatives:
Now is the time for radical action to End the violent occupation of Iraq, and whatever other places in which the U.S. has insurged its unconscionable militarist killing machine. Now is not the time to negotiate and attempt compromise with an incompetent and psychotic despot. Would you negotiate with a Charles Manson? Since I don't believe in violence, my suggestion is that you declare what most critical thinking people know: the Emporer has no clothes, and he is not competent to manage his own affairs, much less those of this nation or the world. He should be taken from the seat of power and confined in a hospital or treatment facility for the criminally insane. I truly believe that this man, George W. Bush, is not rational and is driving the great country and the rest of the world into a very dangerous place. Would you allow the playground bully to batter and harrass your children or those of your friends and neighbors, just because his parents had more money and power than you? Or would you call a meeting to plan and execute the removal of the bully from the playground. Well, the bully and his friends have lost control, and it is time we took action to removed them from the playground, called the Executive Branch of the government of the United States of America.
To vote one more cent for this war and the funding of its violence is criminal. Yes, I am calling you and the rest of the complicit members of Congress, both House and Senate, at least accomplices to this crime that is ongoing and insinuating into the very fiber of our Constitutional Republic. Whether you read or even hear what is being shouted from the rooftops throughout this nation and the world, you will feel its impact very soon. Don't get lost in the political game of negotiating with the lives of all of us, not just those in the military. Consider all inhabitants of the earth as your constitutents. You have an obligation to serve us, not manipulate our interests to serve your own.
Please, take some time to reflect on the impact of your decision for generations to come, and for your own self interest, if that is as far as you can see. Violence will not end the war and it will not bring peace and prosperity to you and the rest of the world. No war was ever won. Only the victors get to write the history, and they will never tell the truth if they think it will harm them in some way.
May Peace Prevail on Earth,
John E. Phillips RScP
Orange County, CA
I've never heard of this man Kermit Ruffins as I'm not a devotee of the Jazz scene, but one thing stands out to me as clear as noonday. It takes a special sort of person to entertain people the way Max Blumenthal says Ruffins does, but any idiot can be President of the United States.
The Jazz musician who comes to my mind is Fats ("I've had my fill of Blueberry Hill") Domino. I heard him speaking on BBC Radio 4 - terrific! Glad he's still around!
Moses K says, "We say a lot in our humor, and little of it is actually funny. Whatever Mr. Bush was trying to tell us about himself and his view of the world. It wasn't funny. It was a peak into the mind of a sociopath whom we should remove from office." This assessment is right-on, and totally racist; but probably not nearly as painful as the COMEDY scene in search of WMD. Cindy Sheehan surely did not apreciate that one!
John Freeman: Do you really think 2000 and 2004 were solid elections with viable results? What planet are you living on sir? Bush has SOME followers, but he NEVER had a majority vote; and if those who did vote for him had an INKLING that what they took for "news" via Fox and rightwing hate radio was all propaganda, the numbers would have been far further removed. How many thought Saddam was responsible for 911, or that there WERE weapons of mass destruction FOUND in Iraq? These people were suckered into false punch lines and equally falacious conclusions. Can a populace that doesn't realize it's being lied to be held accountable for the falsehoods it takes for true? VOTERS should probably have to pass a test that at least indicates they have an inkling of what's going on. Bush and Cheney, with Rove's help, can design a "faith based" test and another for the "reality base." Votes determined from each can be tabulated. What an exciting sociology project THAT would be!
john freeman,
He was "Elected" NEITHER TIME!!!
I know Kermit. I live in New Orleans and if you lived here long enough you'd know Kermit too.
I was pissed to hear that Kermit accepted the invitation. I'm even more pissed now after what transpired. When I see Kermit I'm going to listen to what he has to say, but it's going to take some story to stop me from telling him what I think he should of done.
First, I wouldn't have accepted, but if I were to be guaranteed I'd have a microphone and a platform in which to speak with that so-called leader-of-men next to me, I might be tempted to let the world know what I truly think of this most vapid, vile, man. It would make the Dixie Chicks little rant look like high praise in comparison. And if I had Kermit's talent I might have written a protest song or played Dylan's "Master's of War" as an added bonus.
But, Kermit didn't, and I'm pissed.
Abolish apathy now. Impeach to end the madman's reach. Let's really push to 86 Bush!
If we impeach Bush we get Cheney and that would be too much to contemplate.
If we impeach both we get Pelosi and I see no gain there either.
Electoral theater is no longer the route to a solution and impeachment will bring some relief and a sense that a small pittance of justice was served but not the change that is needed it majes the work more indepth and it involves far more people in positions of power namely all of them.
Ruffin should have taken him up on it; Bush would now be in a Superfund site, awaiting clean-up.
Had Mr. Ruffins tried to remove the trash Secret Service agents would have stopped him before he got even a single hand on ole' Georgey Boy.
Let's try to cool down and slow down a bit and approach this logically. Did Bush tell *Ruffins* to pick up the trash? I think most likely not. Follow my reasoning. Bush says,
"Proud you're here. Thanks for coming. You *all* enjoy yourself. Make sure you pick up all the trash after it's over."
(emphasis added).
Note the 'you all' in the second sentence which suggests Bush turns from adressing Ruffins to addressing the audience. It would seem more likely that he's joking/urging that the *audience* pick up the trash after the event. Afterall, this is a picnic. Joking that Ruffins should pick up the trash would seem bizarre and not make any sense as a joke, except as perhaps an explicitly racist one. Sure, Bush has done/said strange things before at public events, but until and unless I see evidence to the contrary I'm going with what seems to me the more likely interpretation of the transcript, that he's addressing the audience in general at the point he makes the joke. Is there any video of the event? Such video may clarify or give evidence towards deciding which interpretation is correct.
If he had said that to me. I'd likely be in jail or shot dead for grabbing Dubbya by the throat and choke slamming him into a dumpster.
God, what a nasty piece of work. Even if you don't read too much into it, on the surface, it was still a highly callous and rude thing to say considering his role in the whole disaster.
I don't think it's as much that he hates NOLA in that he just doesn't care.
Now why in the world would the President of the United States need to remind anyone to "pick up the trash"? He is an alcoholic; dry or otherwise.
When he leaves office, by impeachment or otherwise, I hope Ruffins sends him a telegram reminding him to be sure to pick up his trash.
It's simple--these guys and gals are brought up and remain sheltered and cloistered from the reality of life as the rest of us know it. Before they reach public noteriety the justification is that they need to devote their curiosity and energy to "getting ready" after the rationale becomes "protection" from threats. The result is a class of isolated and clueless people not unlike European royalty.
That's why MacArthur behaved like Teddy Roosevelt once he got to replace the diety that was the Emporer of Japan in the mid-40's. That was the last time McA could remember before entering the secluded cloisters of generalship in the Army.
Dubya's behavior is sadder than it is disgusting although it is both. He probably thinks he's part of Frank Sinatra's "Rat Pack" without realizing that all them fellas are dead for quite a while now and the rest of us have "moved on"!
No doubt Dubwa was just rehearsing a speech to be delivered to the Iraqi people when the U.S. finally leaves that region. Certainly, we, the US of A, won't be picking up any trash. That is not our job. Our job is the creation of trash. We are consumers, not janitors and housekeepers. Consume/Dispose...that is what we do. Maybe we could send all of the "illegal aliens" to Iraq to clean up. We all know that is what they are good at. Isn't that why they work as pickers in the fields? Housekeepers? Day Laborers? That would solve the immigration problem. And, if they got out of hand, they could be shot by private contractors left behind for "security". No accountability to the U.S. legal system. And, we could train the Iraqi refugees who come to the U.S. to do the menial labor formerly done by "illegals". After all, they are used to the heat of the harvesting season, and would be so grateful for real jobs where they wouldn't get blown up just for showing up to work, unless some anti-immigration patriot mistook their brown skin for that of a "Mexican", who was stealing jobs and social services from us Real Americans.
Over the top? Perhaps, but it seems that the 20 some % who still support Dubwa are of that mindset.
What do you think?
Peace
st john
I think the comment of our friend "arab" says it all. They don't hate us for our freedom...they hate us for sucking their countries dry of resources and enriching only the top 1% of the population while leaving the rest in abject poverty. (Saudi Arabia is on the top ten list of the world's poorest countries!)
That we stand idly by and poo-poo while arab children lie bleeding
and the Palestinian people suffer horrendously every day is why they hate us. The most liberally minded among us is still a member of the country that is tearing their hearts out. We shake our heads in disgust but Bush is still president and the war
drags on. I wish I wasn't part of this but I can't help it. I pay taxes under threat of jail and gang rape and the money is used to continue the carnage. Please forgive us "arab". Most of us are victims just like you, we just have a nicer cage.
Siouxrose I guess John Freeman and I live on the same planet.
The elections: yes they were hijacked but the question really is " why were the elections even close enough to be hijacked, why were they not a landslide for the Democrats" The reasons are many but Mr. Bush was close enough to be said that half of the electorate voted for him.
Mr. Bush's ratings: I think the idea that the last election which gave the Democrats a narrow majority was NOT a mandate for progressive ideas including an end to the war. The election was testimony to the electorate's impatience with Bush not having WON the war as yet. The electorate does not care that the war was illegal, thousands upon thousands of people have been made refugees, live in squalor, killed and maimed physically and mentally and no end in sight. NO, they want lower gas prices and to WIN
Drex: Your point (percentages) is well taken, but I still believe that on account of two extremely powerful fictions that operate as virtual agents of mass hypnosis--the Fox species of "news" in the MSM AND the gigantic mega-churches with their related television outreach "ministries"--we are talking about a population voting on the basis of significant distortions, as in complete reality dislocation. Is it par for the course to argue that HAD these voters HAD true information they would likely NOT have voted for Bush?
POET: Good point. I have seen VERY rich people and they are raised in their own nether world, taught to look down "on the rest of us." But as I told my children, and often relate to clients, "When God runs out of real gifts (i.e. beauty, intelligence, compassion, poetry) he gives money." Doesn't that explain it all for the likes of the bush family? Barbara HAS no soul as witnessed in the awful comment about not worrying her "beautiful" mind over the statistics of dead persons. Collateral damage sounds so much better. The rich think they can invent words to distance themselves from the pain their own actions cause.
St John: As per the satire on sending illegal aliens to pick up the trash, one thing that bears mentioning is that US trash is increasingly RADIOACTIVE. Much of what our wars leave behind is either tainted chemically to induce cancer, or bring the same result through radioactive particle emissions. What a Hades the US has set loose on others, the legacy of which our nation will not walk away from karma free.
I don't know but what you are reading way toomuch into the Bush comment.
If you consider that he is a retarded person (with an IQ probably around 75), the comment seems well within the bounds of acceptability.
This tempest in a teapot remindsme of the film "Being There", with Peter Sellers as the retarded gardener whose comments about gardening (the only thing he knew anything about) were taken as profound metaphors for elements of the geopolitical system.
So, why isn't this making even our sound-bite press? I would like to see the comment in context.
Does anybody think he might be impaired? This comment is so unspeakably ill-advised that I am speechless! But there is nothing like alcohol to impair judgement.
You know when Clinton was making his way through the Lewinsky thing, I thought, "For Heaven's sake!" but this man is so much worse.
Again, another Freudian moment that reveals the deep racism of the very rich...or at least some.
I DON'T THINK THAT I'M UNIQUE AMONG SOUTHERNERS OF A CERTAIN AGE AND SHADE IN THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY,MANY TRASH COLLECTERS,MAIDS,AND DAY LABORERS WHO ARE WORTH A COOL HALF DOZEN BUSHES,LET ALONE BROWNIES,DOANS,SAMPSONS,AND GOODLINGS.FURTHERMORE,THE BOY KING'S INABILITY TO AVOID MAKING THESE CRUDE,AND INSENSITIVE REMARKS,INDICATES THAT HE KNOWS A FEW HIMSELF.
i'm wondering why ruffins would accept the invitation to play? only he knows his motivation, but from here, it smacks of Uncle Tom.
this whole episode reminds me of the hullaballoo that happened when bush tried to rub the shoulders of germany's merkel at some summit somewhere and she freaked out. This is pathetic waste of news/opinion space. I could see myself making this wisecrack comment to someone or rubbing someone's shoulders, and to think it gets elevated to the rank of global news is just pathetic.
Get a life max and try writing about something relevant.
On Nov. 8, 2001, I knew where I was. Somehow I got off on the demented parallel time line. Somewhere Gore won and the world went on its merry way. Of course the right attacked Gore for many faults but couldn't take hime down as even scandals require evidence.
I was stuck with Ronald Reagans hairy friend in "Bedtime for Bonso" running the White House and the U.S.. If the chimp doesn't get us into WWIII1/2, and doesn't declare himself President for Life, we will all be lucky.
Trouble is, he probably will, the flare-up with Cheney and the Archivist plus the first thing Bush did (putting all Presidential records under his control) seals it.
These guys have screwed it up so bad we will never get back to the good timeline.
Or 100 years from now the truth will out and the history books will just have an asteric by W and Dicks name as:
George W. Bush *
Richard Cheney *
* These people didn't win the 2000 or 2004 elections, though propaganda at the time made it seem they had. Their name were sticken from the history of the U.S. to correct this.
Of course after watching the video any resonable person can see that Dubya wasn't specifically talking to Kermit. He was talking to the audience and making a joke.
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"jpbreeze June 25th, 2007 1:30 pm
Of course after watching the video any resonable person can see that Dubya wasn't specifically talking to Kermit. He was talking to the audience and making a joke."
Yeah, we're all familiar with Bushes brand of joke. Like when he was running around the National Press club dinner unable to find WMD's Ha! Ha! Ha!
Yeah 3,500 dead Americans, another 25,000 maimed and wounded, and yet another 26,000 dead and maimed in "accidents", not to mention 650,000 dead and wounded Iraqis. Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah yuck it up George. (all sarcasm fully intended)
Lobo Gris
It's tough to fight a President when the intelligence of the people fighting him is less than the President they are trying to impeach. Out of all the comments above, only about 20% are intelligent. The rest are the rantings of mad dogs. We constantly ask to be taken seriously in our quest for a better America. How can anyone take us seriously when we can not even hold ourselves to the standard we are asking the President to uphold? It is true that he acts more like a terrorist than the President of the United States. His actions have been reproachable since day one. But we continue to fight him based on the very propaganda that got us in this position in the first place. We do not check our facts before we open our mouths and stick our big feet in them. We have plenty of actual facts to base our fight on yet, we infuse these facts with lies, propaganda, and heresay. How does this make us capable of judging the worthiness of the President. I say it makes us no better than the President. We are hardly worth listening to.
The facts?
1. With all the people who are against the President there is no evidence of solidarity. We are against him only in word -- not in deed. Sounds like the actions of the President to me. We give a lot of lip service and that's it.
2. With all the supporting facts about the Presidents blunders, we have never held him accountable. NEVER.
3. With all the evidence of fraudulent votes, have we ever stood firmly against the elections? EVER.
4. We have been quite complacent about the whole thing. Complacency implies consent. We have literally given our consent to this heresy. We lack the ability to combine forces, organize and fight the good fight. To get a President in office who means business. To hold congress accountable for their actions. We simply do not REALLY care.
5. If we wanted to show that we care we would have to hold the press accountable for their writings. We would have to collect accurate data and speak only the truth and/or specify when we are speculating. We would have to uphold the same standards we are asking the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, and the Judicial Branch of the government to uphold. Then and only then would we be taken seriously.
6. We do not REALLY want to be taken seriously. We only want to rant and rave like mad dogs. Flailing about, this way and that. Renting our cloths and making elegant jestures of disbelief and dissension so that we appear as though we care. To save face. While in the back ground, we are quite pleased that we are the wealthiest nation in the world and quite content to stay so. We are willing to do what ever it takes to maintain that. And the rantings above have done nothing to convince me otherwise.
Until I personally see some sign of an actual concern for what is happening in the political realm I will continue to keep this opinion. You all have done very little to convince me you give a damn about what is happening. On the contrary, you have shown that you support the president whole heartedly by maintaining the very stance he poses daily.
What a sad commentary on our lives. we are so hypocritical about every thing we say we want that we will inadvertantly bring about the distruction of freedom at it's very core. Simply, because freedom requires truth and we can not and/or will not uphold the truth. In short, we will not uphold the Constitution of the United State of America because that would require us to fight the GOOD fight -- to show some intelligence and tell the truth.