How The Ruling Class Thwarts Democracy
With the 2008-presidential-election cycle already in full swing, it seems a good time to revisit a perennial question in our country's political life, namely, "Who really rules America?"
So many of us Americans, for so long now, seem to feel as though we no longer have a government "of and by the people." Some would argue that we've never truly had one.
Then who does in fact have the power?
Is it the corporations, the banks, or ultra-rich individuals? Do America's rulers tend to live in a particular region or share an ethnicity? Is it some combination, such as the "Liberal Media" or Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex?"
And where do the president, Congress and the political parties fit into all this?
This past year I finished a film, The American Ruling Class, with Lewis Lapham, the long-time editor of Harper's Magazine, in which we set out to ask many of these questions. More importantly, we wondered how we should respond to the answers.
To spice things up and have some fun along the way we decided to go beyond the standard documentary format. After long deliberation, my producer, Libby Handros, and I hit upon what we think is an interesting new genre: the "dramatic-documentary-musical."
We gave Lewis charge of two real-life Harvard graduates, slightly changed their trajectories (they play Yale men, for instance), and set the three of them on a journey through the fabled "corridors of wealth and power."
Every now and again there's an opportunity for a song — at a Yale garden party, a series of low-wage workplaces, a "Camp Thoreau" for kids, and even at a Pentagon press conference.
Along their journey our two young heroes meet a sampling of people that seemed to us to fulfill a few essential Ruling Class criteria: They've enjoyed careers that span the highest levels of the public and private sectors, and in most cases they belong to organizations that have long been associated with establishment power, such as the Council on Foreign Relations or the Trilateral Commission.
We were pleased and surprised to secure interviews with a dozen people from our extensive list: former Secretary of State James Baker, now running the James Baker Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, New York Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr., investment banker and former Sen. Bill Bradley, former Secretary of Defense Harold Brown, now a partner and financial analyst at Pincus Warburg, former World Bank Chief Economist and then-Harvard University President Larry Summers, to name a few.
Every one of the men with a "former" in their title now occupies a position in a major law firm, a powerful consulting concern, a private equity bank, or a major university. And some of them regularly travel back to Washington, as James Baker recently did as co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group.
Though our list included both those who consider themselves Democrats and those who identify as Republicans, we noticed little real difference in their general outlook on policy matters. And interestingly, they all made the same claim: There is no such thing as a ruling class in America.
The family backgrounds of our interview subjects varied widely. Significant inherited wealth or a famous political lineage was the exception, not the rule. It began to seem to us as if the only true requirement for ruling-class entrance was the ability to serve the status quo well and faithfully.
The two young graduates also run into an interesting assortment of characters from what might best be termed the "other side of the tracks." They meet Barbara Ehrenreich (author of the book Nickel and Dimed) in a chain restaurant, folk singer Pete Seeger on a country road, the late great Kurt Vonnegut on the steps at a New York soirée, the late great Robert Altman outside of a movie theater, and populist historian and activist Howard Zinn on a tour bus that travels back in time to the founding of the country.
Through all these encounters we try to piece together the nature of power in America, how it replenishes itself, and what its ambitions are.
Former State Department spokesman Hodding Carter tells the story of the selection of Jimmy Carter — no relation — by the Eastern Establishment for the post of president of the United States. "But just banging on the door will not get you entrance into these things," he tells one of the young men. "It's . . . the brights."
By virtue of their school background, the two young men at the center of our story are well positioned to be tapped for admission. In fact, all of the establishment figures we met had attended an Ivy League college.
So by something resembling a meritocratic process, almost anyone white and male (there were very few women and minorities on our list) who can scrape together the loans for tuition can theoretically achieve not just wealth but real influence in the United States.
The question our graduates then must ask themselves is: "Should they?" Should they join the winning side in what the economist Doug Henwood calls in our film a "one-sided class war?" A war whose object seems to be to concentrate more and more money and political power in the hands of fewer and fewer Americans?
And if that wasn't bad enough, should they participate in a domestic economic war the cover for which is the constant preparation for and execution of foreign wars?
Since President McKinley and the Spanish-American War, overseas adventures have been the oligarchy's response to the public's demand for reform. Whether it was Populists or Progressives, rank-and-file Republicans or Democrats leading the charge for domestic change, the major party bosses and their partners on Wall Street have worked together in "collusive harmony," in the words of political historian Walter Karp, to divert the country from its just demands by embroiling them in deadly foreign entanglements.
Reform movements are an ever-present worry for both parties' bosses, because any successful reform put forward by regular citizens and insurgents in Congress tends to excite the electorate with the possibility of actually controlling their own government. The ruling class well understands that as the engagement of the citizenry waxes, their own power wanes. And it is war and the threat of war that provide the best excuse for not passing social-welfare legislation, and calling anyone who demands it "unpatriotic."
The tactic of imperial expansion as domestic diversion, begun in Cuba and the Philippines a century ago, has achieved its ultimate expression in the "War on Terror" and the over 130 countries where our military presence is felt.
The cost to Americans is not just measured in our thousands of dead and wounded child soldiers, but in the persistent lack of national health care, decent schools, adequate housing, fair wages and a livable environment.
Our dear old republic, the hope of a New World free of aristocracy and injustice, has now fallen so low into the muck of corrupt privilege and imperial pretension that it rivals the excesses of the worst European autocracies. Though we posses powers and riches undreamed of by the Sun King himself, as of the early 21st Century our rulers have done virtually nothing to raise the great mass of Americans out of ignorance and poverty, and much to ensure that they stay there.
In our film, former Secretary of State James Baker tells us that he "doesn't buy this argument that the defense budget takes too large a percentage of our gross national product."
But one might fairly ask: Does the defense budget, 51 percent of discretionary federal spending, take too large a percentage of our national hope and promise?
How will our two young graduates answer this overwhelming question? Will they try to rule the world . . . or save it? Can they do it from the inside, as Walter Cronkite urges? Or does there need to be a "revolt of the guards," as Howard Zinn insists?
The answers our heroes and the rest of their generation provide will have the greatest imaginable consequences for us all.
John Kirby is director and editor of The American Ruling Class.
© 2007 The Providence Journal
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Show AllSorry to be joining the discussion here a little late, but I wanted to respond to particularly ezefyler.....I have seen the film, The American Ruling Class when it played at AFI in Washington. It is wonferful--entertaining and informative, and is a remarkable reinvention of the documentary format. The musical numbers will have you humming long after you have left the theater and even now I find myself still thinking about many of the issues that were brought up in the film. Bravo Kirby!
They have interviewed everyone from Arhtur Ochs Sulzberger, the publisher of "The New York Times," someone you never see on-camera to former Defense Secretary Harold Brown, the guy who bombed Cambodia way back when, and then there is this wonderfully moving scene near the end of the film with Pete Seeger, alone on a country road singing a song. I could go on, but I urge everyone to see the film when they can.....it is a must for anyone who cares about the future of this democratic country of ours.
"Money as Debt" on Google Video is a must see! Thanks silymariner
I think back on so many things (like how everybody and everything remains in debt) and it make sense now.
Natural and human resources are the only real value added to the economy with oil being at the top. As more money is created out of nothing the value of resources decreases creating the need to produce more. Very Interesting!
I'm really rethinking everything!
Our only real export is war and arms, if we stop either we go bankrupt.
That's why Bush says we can't afford to loose this war (occupation).
What happens when we do? Can't squeeze blood from a turnip. There will be an adjustment somewhere down the line.
I want to see undeveloped land be protected instead of gobbled up as collateral.
I also think the majority of people in all classes of societies know that we are on the brink of destruction. I think they are hoping for a solution where everybody wins.
Stopping the war will be easy compared to changing the way the masses consume.
hybridoma2001 - you wrote:
"…Technology has changed - there's no doubt about that. But, in essence, people haven't changed. That is all I am saying…."
Man's conciousness is evolving and people are changing. Much of what was common and acceptable (in the human rights arena) to the people 200 years ago, is neither common or acceptable now. Look at the radical human rights advances of just the past 50 years.
Obviously, we still have a long ways to go, but we're slowly moving forward. Less than 40 years ago most women were expected to stay home and keep the house, horrific racism was the norm, people smoked like chimneys everywhere. If you could go back to 1957 - the differences between then and now are radical.
The differences between now & 40 years from now will be radical too. We moving towards the end of poverty, the end: of war, political corruption, commercialization of schools (and everything else). Huge changes are coming our way.
I disagree with the cynics think that radical changes are simply not going to happen, that the efforts of little people are in vain.
Our common dreams for a better world with justice & peace are most certainly coming our way, thanks to the hard work of millions of little people working together for common causes.
As John Lennon sang... "...I hope some day you'll join us..."
You will eventually - if not in this incarnation, then surely the next.
:-)
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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe', a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein
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"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today."
President Theodore Roosevelt - 1906
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"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it ...always."
Mahatma Gandhi
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"All of us cannot be famous, because all of us cannot be well known. But all of us can be great, because all of us can serve." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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"Almost anything you do will seem insignificant, but it's very important that you do it." Mahatma Gandi
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"He who experiences the unity of life sees his own self in all beings, and all beings in his own Self, and looks on everything with an impartial eye." Bhagavad Gita
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"Until mankind can extend the circle of his compassion to include all living things, he will never, himself, know peace." Albert Schweitzer
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"So a peace will come again on earth, but a peace unlike aught known before. Then will the will-to-good flower forth as understanding, & understanding blossom as goodwill in men." The Tibetan
NMBill Check this out:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
This is the apex of power in our elite ruled system-to issue/create "money as debt" 'loaned' to individuals,buisnesses and governments.
"The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole...Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world's money..."
- Prof. Carroll Quigley, renowned, late Georgetown macro-historian (mentioned by former President Clinton in his first nomination acceptance speech), author of
Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time
Here's another link with insightful quotes:
http://hourmoney.org/ourmoney.htm
einstein,
I agree
This article is untrue nonsense.
The story of American power, of the elite, is very clear, and well known.
To Lucky Lefty:
You were around heh ... How old are you? Anyway, please explain to those of us who were born a little late just how the 1886 decision to treat a corporation as an individiaul is, in fact, the root of all of our political problems. (Is that what you're suggesting, at least as concerned the undue influence of corporate interest / wealthy interest in our public sphere?) Then when you're finished, you may also explain why it did not adversely thwart Roosevelt.
I am not being sarcastic, just in case you might think that. I truly want to understand your position. You may be onto something here, and if so, we need to examine it and understand it throughly, to see if it then can be translated into action from words.
To AUM 33:
Not to burst your bubble, but spreading the truth on the internet, and thus empowering people who now "see the light", will probably not have the effect you hope for on the scamps and their backers who hold the reins of power.
I'm afraid that it (the sight of rightly-informed and newly-empowered people) will instead cause those in power to dig their trenches deeper, then dig into their deep pockets and redouble their efforts at deception. They don't see that what they have done has resulted in failure in anything other than failure in communicating their version of truth. So watch out and be ready for new onslaughts. And you can bet that alot of "we the people" will not see through the deceptions, if we are to glean anything from past experience.
GREAT THREAD!
moneylender, aum33, luckylefty, thanks for the inspiration.
Money created out of nothing... inflation/interest created from the selling of the earth and leading to the "tragedy of the commons" we experience now.
I need to think about this!
luckylefty:
Excellent post/contribution. You're hereby encouraged to take that collection of thoughts, maybe refine it a little and submit it to CD (and/or other alternative sites) as an article.
Towards the end of your piece, you asked: "How do we shatter the LIE, the illusion of Corporate Super-Citizenship?"
IMO - the lies will be shattered by the steady application of "the truth" spoken and written about by all who are aware of it. It must come from the mouths and pens of the big (famous) people and the 'little' people.
The truth about how Americans are mercilessly manipulated and exploited by both the business & political leaders has always been known by some, but the internet is enabling the the truth to be spread around to a growing number of people. It's spreading like wild fire and has the poor ignorant bastards in power shivering with fear. They're slowly learning that the solutions that have worked for hundreds of years are not working anymore. As we see in Iraq, they're meeting with one miserable failure after another.
As all problem solvers know, the first step in solving any problem is to define or recognize the problem. The world's greatest problems don't come from the people, they come from a handful of poor bastards who think that they're superior to us, that we exist to be exploited. It's time for the tables to be turned.
The more of us who fearlessly and intelligently speak out against the rotten system that enslaves us, the more people will become aware of the truth and the more they'll spread it. Also, the harder it becomes for political and corporate captains to get away with their lies, as well as for any of us to be singled out.
Those who allow fear to silence them, should remember in the minds of the enemies of truth and justice, we little people are nothing compared to many of our senior co-workers (the widely published progressive and radical writers) who are constantly attacking the corrupt nature of the present establishment.
As many people know, mankind is one. We're like a huge terribly dysfunctional family - all 6.5+ billion of us. When one considers the radical advances in mankinds potential made in the past 200 years, it becomes obvious that as a species we're evolving. We progressives are for change, for truth & justice, while the deceptive and insanely greedy neo-cons are trying to work against the forces of the universe. They not nearly as smart as they fondly imagine themselfs to be. Our victory is inevitable, the forces of the universe are on our side, but the timing depends on all of us.
The time for corrupt leadership in the halls of power, war, poverty, and other manifestations of extreme ignorance has past. It's time for those of us who know better to get up do whatever we can. If we have much in terms of talent and money, we should give much to the progressive movement, if we have but little we should give little - the important thing is for us to all do what we can.
This is an incredibly important time in the history of the world. We who love truth and justice have an opportunity to fight in the biggest war of all time, a war that will inevitably forever change the world for the better, for the people. Like they say, it's all about peace, justice, love & understanding. The forces of the universe are on our side.
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"It's not a matter of whether the war is not real, or if it is, Victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different
past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory... but to keep the very structure of society intact."
George Orwell
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"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power."
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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"A world of glaring inequality is never going to be a fully safe world. For millions of people, the threat of terrorism, or of weapons of mass destruction, is remote compared to the daily threat of poverty, hunger, unsafe water, environmental degradation and disease. We have come to a decisive moment in history." Kofi Annan
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"Without sharing there can be no justice;
without justice there can be no peace;
without peace there can be no future."
Maitreya, the World Teacher
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"Hate not the man, but hate the horrible deeds of the confused, ignorant, pitiful man."
From A "Hater!" Who Dares--
We Have An Election Coming Up And A DUTY! To Learn About The Performance Record of ALL! Candidates
The "Monica" card was unfortunate for honest democrats; it helped the Clintons keep the focus off their longstanding right wing careers and won lots of sympathy. It worked in their favor and so well, their supporters continue forcing their personal lives on us as in the bogus expose' just published. But, those who dare hold the Clintons to the same standard as other politicians have done so by resorting to oblique references and euphemisms like "money","mainstream", "establishment" or "right of center-elitists", for fear of being called a "hater." We have an obligation, when we go to the polls, to know WHO our candidates really are and if we're too obedient, intimidated by manipulative slogans or spin, or would rather not risk being "politically "incorrect?" then you do your party, your country and yourself, a costly disservice. If the people lose ANOTHER election, there won't be any going back to democratic process.
The Conservative Media (republican AND! democrat) & the journalist shills who work for them are all about sly snickers at the mere mention of Bill Clinton, the Benedict Arnold of the Democratic party and yeah, they've gotta be having a good time with the Clinton's ubiquitous assault on the people's intelligence. It was a particular bummer that he left an unobstructed path for his successor, GWB
It should be a concern that public speakers trying to address, let alone expose, the Clinton right wing reforms of the 90's are peremptorily silenced or shut down. I mean, documents were confiscated from the Nat'l Archives, intimidation, bullying, censorship, disingenuous strategy and raw power utilized in all forms of media (including the internet), but all the King's horses won't get to rewrite History! according to --Clinton's autobiography, "My Life." Hopefully, America won't have to wait for history to record the hard right milestones that studded his administration. (This is not hyperbole NAFTA (corporate-globalization) & the end of our democratic free press were only 2, on a comprehensive list of top right wing priorities enacted from within our formerly democratic party.)
Okay, how about this idea? Fight corporate fire with corporate fire?!
We should get a few good corporate attorneys and start a HUGE American (aka "International" corporation!)...Maybe call it The Progressive Peace Activists, Inc. Any cool ideas out there???
Get everyone who gives a flying f*** on the planet to contribute what they can and start some ditzy internet site with progressive truth-telling videos or something....make it bigger than Google, or Youtube, or Funnyordie.com....
Sell advertising and use the profits to hire attorneys to go after the "criminals" with an international class action lawsuit! I don't know! But, hey, it's late....and I'm thinking! I'm thinking!!
Oh Yeah, forgot. Thomm Hartman has done great work on the Santa Clara case and refers to this situation often on his Air America radio show. Good head. Not his first rodeo.
Peace.
We have put these monsters on a leash before. We know how to do it. The Roosevelt people worked it out. From '35 to '65 this country produced the greatest distribution of wealth ever seen in the history of humanity. 35% unionization in the private sector. The end of poverty was in sight. Lifetime stable (middle class) employment was on the horizon. People worked 37.5 hrs/wk, with two full weeks of vacation every year, health care that didn't bankrupt a family with 7 children, and one wage earner had more disposable income than a two wage earner household today. Our Ruling Class was nearly moribund. I was there. These were facts of life for a majority of Americans (though not all by any stretch, Jim Crow was alive and well). How did they do it for us?
90% Income Tax on earned income over $6mn (adjusted for inflation)
53% Income Tax on unearned income.
50+% Tax on mega-estates.
Can you hear the screams? Can you hear the howls of protest? Those are the howls of your enemies telling you that you are cutting the diseased flesh to the bone. Those are your evidence procedures. And it get's better:
Full support of the Wagner Act (the right to organize a Union)
Glass-Seagal strictly enforced (separation of the Banks & Brokerage Houses.
Real Corporate Regulation with teeth - If Corporations murder their customers, they get shut down e.g., the Ford Murder Company "Let'em Burn" Pinto memo. And the execs get to dance with a murder 1 prosecution. Not like now.
And of course, the much hated, Social Security System. Master doesn't like to feed non-productive assets. Much rather they just curl up under a rock and disappear.
How'd they take it away from us?
1. Vietnam
2. Vietnam
3. Vietnam (the death of social programs)
4. Top 1% calls the broker and says eight magic words, "Maximum short term profits by any means necessary". Even in the late '60's the top 1/4 of 1% are the real heavy hitters in all this. Up til then 6%-8% annual profit in a stable industry was pure Gold, aka Blue Chip. Not anymore. 15%. 20%. 25% - by any means necessary. Every capitalist will tell you that nothing makes those kind of profits except slave labor, prison labor, child labor, & sweatshop labor. And now all Americans must compete on an even playing field with forced labor. Who wins that one? For how long? What hgappens to the middle class when it is forced to compete with prison labor? And then comes the last piece:
Through their corporations, the Ruling Class bought our entire political class in wholesale lots for pennies on the $$$ spent (and it's a write-off in the proper General Ledger account). So we do the labor that produces the profits that Master uses to buy the politicians who pass tax breaks and loopholes for them as they transfer taxation to local sales taxes to pick up the slack, from us, and they write it off as a business expense. Very tidy.
What stops us from changing things?
The LIE of Corporate Super-Citizenship
There is no legal basis for Corporate participation in OUR (human) politics at any level. Hear the howls? Hear the screams? What does that mean? The case is Santa Clara v S. Pacific Railroad 1886. The stare decisis on this is the language inserted into the Header of the Decision by the Clerk of the Court. The Clerk was a revolving door former President of New York Railroad, just doing a favor for some friends. The Header has no legal standing and has no connection to the case or the decision rendered. It has been used with a wink and a nod by subsequent courts to expand corporate power. You don't need me to tell you all the ways they rape our world and us. Based on a LIE.
Corporate Super Citizenship is the Key-Log. Pull that thread and the fabric of oppression dissolves. Their right to poison our air, water, land, earth, and us - ENDS. And there's a Question that cuts to the core of this issue. I ask because I don't have The Answer. You folks are pretty damn smart and I suspect you have friends at least as smart or smarter than you which means somebody knows how to attack this one:
How do we shatter the LIE, the illusion of Corporate Super-Citizenship? How do we shatter the legal foundations for their standing? At one time Jim Crow was the Law of the Land, upheld by the Supreme Court. Thurgood Marshall and those before and those since went after Jim Crow one piece at a time and with those victories built a legal history of precedent. Could such an approach be undertaken now, or is a different approach more appropriate? That's why I ask.
Once the Corporations are out of OUR politics we can elect people who can restore the Roosevelt Legacy and the Four Freedoms.
I am not talking about cheap thrill campaign finance cut around the edges no enforcement 'reform'. I'm taling about 3 words: "You're outta here!"
All the best,
Peace.
About what I said of Human Nature. If human nature had advanced and changed the way we have in the field of science for example, we would be living in a far different world than we are today.
Of course we have made advances over the centuries because curiosity is a component of human nature. But human nature has remained the same.
Why else would we still have war, the death penelty, crime, greed, lust for power, abuse of woman and man, fear of the unknown?
Technology has changed - there's no doubt about that. But, in essence, people haven't changed. That is all I am saying.
Do we have to live as if we were flies and avoid the flyswatter of the ruling class? Perhaps, at least until we find those with money who would to their consciences and embrace the entire human community. Meanwhile, let the rest of us concentrate on being humane ourselves and maybe that moment will come some time soon.
Please look at all the positive changes of the past 200 years, particularly in the human rights arena. Also please look at all the technological advances.
None of those advances are a coincidence. All of them were seen by some as impossible. Humanity is moving forward into an era where corrupt political regimes, fixed elections, war, violence, unbridled greed, hunger and poverty will become relics of the past.
Those who fought for the human rights advances in that time, fought against what many considered to be insurmountable odds, but they fought anyway - not necessarily for the good of their own generation, but for the good of all future generations.
We should be thankful for the work of the people who've long been dead and gone, for many of the comforts that we all enjoy and take for granted.
We must fight and ignore the naysayers who say things will never change. They are mistaken.
The end of poverty (and all the other horrors)
is coming soon to the world. It behooves us all to do what we can to help.
http://www.One.org
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem."
Howard Zinn, "Failure to Quit", p. 45
arpip. What I meant by this unchanging constant as Human Nature, I meant exactly what I said. Stop for one minute and think. What has not changed in all the years civilizations have existed? Human Nature. Look it up. This does not dimiss the changes that have taken place over time, but we, as people, have certain base qualities that have not changed. Greed, Selfishness, etc..
I am not going to argue about this as it is my opinion - as you seem to have plenty of your own and an inability to read plain English as written in the US Constitution.
You can continue to pull quotes out of context, but the facts remain that these men truly desired change. Yes, they had to work around slavery to keep the South in the camp. Yes, they needed the educated (wealthy) to draw up these ideas which make up the constitution. I am not saying anyone was perfect, after all, that's just Human Nature to have failings.
Sadly, ask Dennis Kucinich about Israel and he will bow to AIPAC. He kisses their ring.
Look back in Commondreams.org to the more recent Scott Ritter articles and read his piece about Israel's power over the U.S. government. He says because of their meddling in our foreign affairs they should have to be formally listed as a "foreign agent"! He actually went so far as to say we should just raise the flag of Israel here and call it a day!!
You can't win an election in this country without kissing AIPAC's ring. Think about it.
Which is why I would support a Scott Ritter/Bill Moyers/Nader etc. ticket. Anyone who has the "chutzpah" (Ha!!) to stand up to AIPAC would have my vote!!!!
Ideally the truth about the so called ruling elite, and their selfish scam of keeping the masses in chains will be spread far. That will result in a more informed public, and some cool political canidates (like Kucinich & Nader) who will hopefully, be able to get the reins of power without any violence. We're in a bit of a dunghole right now obviously because even if someone like Kucinich got 60% of the vote, the bastards who count the votes would give it to the looser, to maintain the status quote - seeing themselves as patriots and heroes.
If violence is necessary, then it would be necessary to get the as many soldiers & police as possible to join in such a rebellion against the insanely greedy and cynical masters of war and deception.
We have to save ourselves. As they say - only the truth will set us free. It seems to have set most of us here free from the error of "believing in the USA" or the lies that half or more of the American people have swallowed.
I say "Bravo!" to the above by Moneylender.
I wish everyone reading this (if they haven't already done so) would go to Google and watch "The Money Masters" part 1 and 2. Here are just a few choice quotes from it:
"THE INABILITY OF THE COLONISTS TO GET POWER TO ISSUE THEIR OWN MONEY PERMANENTLY OUT OF THE HANDS OF GEORGE III AND THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS WAS THE "PRIME" REASON FOR THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR." BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY
"IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR CURRENCY, FIRST BY INFLATION, THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND THE CORPORATIONS WHICH GROW UP AROUND THEM WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF ALL PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED." - THOMAS JEFFERSON
"THE RICH WILL STRIVE TO ESTABLISH THEIR DOMINION AND ENSLAVE THE REST. THEY ALWAYS DID. THEY ALWAYS WILL...THEY WILL HAVE THE SAME EFFECT HERE AS ELSEWHERE, IF WE DO NOT, BY THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT, KEEP THEM IN THEIR PROPER SPHERES." GOVERNOR MORRIS OF THE COLONIES WHO HELPED WRITE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
"LET ME ISSUE AND CONTROL A NATION'S MONEY AND I CARE NOT WHO WRITES THE LAWS." 1790 - AMSHELL ROTHSCHILD OF FRANKFORT, GERMANY
After you've watched "The Money Masters" connect the dots with this other piece of critical information and I believe a picture will immerge. I know what I see. What about the rest of you?
JFK Vs The Federal Reserve
By John P. Curran
4-19-7
On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.
When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the United States of America.
"United States Notes" were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a "Federal Reserve Note" issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a "United States Note" from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy's Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says "Federal Reserve Note" on the top while the other says "United States Note". Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.
President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper "currency" circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.
Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.
Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 "Silver Certificates" were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the "powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance". With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:
1) war (Viet Nam); and,
2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.
Not a pretty picture, is it?
I noticed that the Bilderber report previously posted in this discussion thread has disappeared without a trace. I wonder why? Sorry to see censorship at commondreams. I wonder if it was an 'inside job'?
I'm reposting it just in case it was accidently removed:
Note the meeting agenda items towards the bottom.
2007 BILDERBERG LIST
In 1954, the most powerful men in the world met for the first time under
the auspices of the Dutch royal crown and the Rockefeller family in the
luxurious Hotel Bilderberg of the small Dutch town of Oosterbeck. For an
entire weekend they debated the future of the world. When it was over,
they decided to meet once every year to exchange ideas and analyze
international affairs. They named themselves the Bilderberg Club. Since
then, they have gathered yearly in a luxurious hotel somewhere in the
world to decide the future of humanity.
In more than fifty years of meetings that brings together unprecedented
power and money in the same time and place, never has any information
been leaked as to what subjects were debated during the Bilderberg Club
meetings. Bilderberg, one of the world's most powerful secret
organizations is run out of an 18m2 offices, staffed by one person, using
one telephone line and a single fax number. There is no web page and no
brass name plate on the door. The independent press has never been
allowed in, and no statements have ever been released on the attendees'
conclusions nor has any agenda for a Bilderberg meeting been made public.
How, in God's name, can this be possible when Bilderberg´s elite
membership list includes all of the most powerful individuals who run the
Planet?
Leaders of the Bilderberg Club argue that this discretion is necessary to
allow participants in the debates to speak freely without being on the
record or reported publicly. Otherwise, Bilderbergers state, they would
be forced to speak in the language of a press release. Doubtlessly, this
discretion allows the Bilderberg Club to deliberate more freely, but that
does not respond to the fundamental question: What do the world's most
powerful people talk about in these meetings?
Any modern democratic system protects the right to privacy, but doesn't
the public have a right to know what their political leaders are talking
about when they meet the wealthiest business leaders of their respective
countries?
What guarantees do citizens have that the Bilderberg Club isn't a centre
for influence trafficking and lobbying if they aren't allowed to know
what their representatives talk about at the Club's secret gatherings?
Why are the Davos World Economic Forum and G8 meetings carried in every
newspaper, given front page coverage, with thousands of journalists in
attendance, while no one covers Bilderberg Club meetings even though they
are annually attended by Presidents of the International Monetary Fund,
The World Bank, Federal Reserve, chairmen of 100 most powerful
corporations in the world such as DaimlerChrysler, Coca Cola, British
Petroleum, Chase Manhattan Bank, American Express, Goldman Sachs,
Microsoft, Vice Presidents of the United States, Directors of the CIA and
the FBI, General Secretaries of NATO, American Senators and members of
Congress, European Prime Ministers and leaders of opposition parties, top
editors and CEOs of the leading newspapers in the world. It is surprising
that no mainstream corporate media outlets consider a gathering of such
figures, whose wealth far exceeds the combined wealth of all United
States citizens, to be newsworthy when a trip by any one of them on their
own makes headline news on TV.
The delegates at Bilderberg 2007: Istanbul, Turkey May 31-June 3
This year's delegation will once again include all of the most important
politicians, businessmen, central bankers, European Commissioners and
executives of the western corporate press. They will be joined at the
table by leading representatives of the European Royalty, led by Queen
Beatrix, the daughter of the Bilderberg founder, former Nazi, Prince
Bernhard of the Netherlands and Bilderberger President, Etienne Davignon,
Vice Chairman, Suez-Tractebel from Belgium. According to Bilderberg
Steering Committee list which this author had access to, the following
names have now been confirmed as official Bilderberg attendees for this
year's conference (In alphabetical order):
George Alogoskoufis, Minister of Economy and Finance ( Greece);
Ali Babacan, Minister of Economic Affairs ( Turkey);
Edward Balls, Economic Secretary to the Treasury ( UK);
Francisco Pinto Balsemão, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former
Prime Minister (Portugal);
José M. Durão Barroso, President, European Commission
(Portugal/International);
Franco Bernabé, Vice Chariman, Rothschild Europe ( Italy);
Nicolas Beytout, Editor-in-Chief, Le Figaro (France );
Carl Bildt, Former Prime Minister (Sweden);
Hubert Burda, Publisher and CEO,
Hubert Burda Media Holding (Belgium);
Philippe Camus, CEO, EADS (France);
Henri de Castries, Chairman of the Management Board and CEO, AXA
(France); Juan Luis Cebrian, Grupo PRISA media group ( Spain);
Kenneth Clark, Member of Parliament (UK);
Timothy C. Collins, Senior Managing Director and CEO, Ripplewood
Holdings, LLC ( USA);
Bertrand Collomb, Chairman, Lafarge (France);
George A. David, Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A. ( USA);
Kemal Dervis, Administrator, UNDP ( Turkey);
Anders Eldrup, President, DONG A/S (Denmark);
John Elkann, Vice Chairman, Fiat S.p.A (Italy);
Martin S. Feldstein, President and CEO, National Bureau of Economic
Research ( USA);
Timothy F. Geithner, President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
(USA);
Paul A. Gigot, Editor of the Editorial Page, The Wall Street Journal (
USA);
Dermot Gleeson, Chairman, AIB Group ( Ireland);
Donald E. Graham, Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company ( USA);
Victor Halberstadt, Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former
Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings (the Netherlands);
Jean-Pierre Hansen, CEO, Suez-Tractebel S.A. (Belgium );
Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations ( USA);
Richard C. Holbrooke, Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC ( USA);
Jaap G. Hoop de Scheffer, Secretary General, NATO (the
Netherlands/International);
Allan B. Hubbard, Assistant to the President for Economic Policy,
Director National Economic Council ( USA);
Josef Joffe, Publisher-Editor, Die Zeit (Germany );
James A. Johnson, Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC (USA ); Vernon E. Jordan,
Jr., Senior Managing Director,
Lazard Frères & Co. LLC (USA);
Anatole Kaletsky, Editor at Large, The Times (UK );
John Kerr of Kinlochard, Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc (the
Netherlands);
Henry A. Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates ( USA);
Mustafa V. Koç, Chariman, Koç Holding A.S. (Turkey);
Fehmi Koru, Senior Writer, Yeni Safek ( Turkey);
Bernard Kouchner, Minister of Foreign Affairs (France );
Henry R. Kravis, Founding Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. ( USA);
Marie-Josée Kravis, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc. ( USA);
Neelie Kroes, Commissioner, European Commission (the
Netherlands/International);
Ed Kronenburg, Director of the Private Office, NATO Headquarters
(International);
William J. Luti, Special Assistant to the President for Defense Policy
and Strategy, National Security Council ( USA);
Jessica T. Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
( USA);
Frank McKenna, Ambassador to the US, member Carlyle Group ( Canada);
Thierry de Montbrial, President, French Institute for International
Relations ( France);
Mario Monti, President, Universita Commerciale Luigi Bocconi ( Italy);
Craig J. Mundie, Chief Technical Officer Advanced Strategies and Policy,
Microsoft Corporation ( USA);
Egil Myklebust, Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, Norsk Hydro ASA (
Norway);
Matthias Nass, Deputy Editor, Die Zeit (Germany);
Adnrzej Olechowski, Leader Civic Platform (Poland ); Jorma Ollila,
Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc/Nokia (Finland);
George Osborne, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer ( UK);
Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, Minister of Finance (Italy );
Richard N. Perle, Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for
Public Policy Research ( USA);
Heather Reisman, Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc. ( Canada);
David Rockefeller ( USA);
MatÃas Rodriguez Inciarte, Executive Vice Chairman, Grupo Santander Bank,
( Spain);
Dennis B. Ross, Director, Washington Institute for Near East Policy (
USA);
Otto Schily, Former Minister of Interior Affairs; Member of Parliament;
Member of the Committee on Foreign Affairs ( Germany);
Jürgen E. Schrempp, Former Chairman of the Board of Management,
DaimlerChrysler AG ( Germany);
Tøger Seidenfaden, Executive Editor-in-Chief, Politiken ( Denmark);
Peter D. Sutherland, Chairman, BP plc and Chairman, Goldman Sachs
International ( Ireland);
Giulio Tremonti, Vice President of the Chamber of Deputies ( Italy);
Jean-Claude Trichet, Governor, European Central Bank
(France/International);
John Vinocur, Senior Correspondent, International Herald Tribune ( USA);
Jacob Wallenberg, Chairman, Investor AB (Sweden);
Martin H. Wolf, Associate Editor and Economics Commentator, The
Financial Times ( UK);
James D. Wolfensohn, Special Envoy for the Gaza Disengagement ( USA);
Robert B. Zoellick, Deputy Secretary of State ( USA);
Klaus Zumwinkel, Chairman of the Board of Management, Deutsche Post AG (
USA);
Adrian D. Wooldridge, Foreign Correspondent, The Economist.
Amongst the names appearing on the initial list of invitees which this
journalist had access to in January 2007 stand out the names of the now
disgraced John Browne, British Petroleum's Chief Executive Officer and
the disgraced and fired former chief of the World Bank, Paul Wolfowitz.
It will be interesting to see if either of these men makes an appearance
at Bilderberg 2007. The Bilderbergers have no trouble accepting criminals
into the fold as long as their misdeeds are conducted away from public
spotlight and scrutiny. Once exposed, the culprits are generally
discarded. Lord Conrad Black, former chief executive of Hollinger media
group is a case in point.
Two others names on the original January 2007 list should raise a few
eyebrows. One of them is Bernard Kouchner, the newly appointed Minister
of Foreign Affairs in the right wing Nicolas Sarkozy government in
France. Kouchner is a former founder of ONG Doctors without Borders. He
was absent from Bilderberg 2006 in Ottawa, Canada. Could his government
position been arranged prior to the French national elections? For my
money, the surprise appearance of year award should go to Mahmood
Sariolghalam, Associate Professor of International Relations, School of
Economic and Political Sciences, National University of Iran. What is an
Iranian doing at a NATO alliance controlled Bilderberg conference? We
will know soon enough. Bilderberg 2007 is indeed a good time to look
behind the scenes.
What will be discussed at Bilderberg 2007?
Aside from the Iraq quagmire, energy problems continue to dominate
Bilderberger discussions. Oil and natural gas are finite, non-renewable
resources. That's because once used up it cannot be replenished. As the
world turns, and as oil and natural gas supplies dwindle while demand
soars dramatically, especially with Indian and Chinese booming economies
who want all the trinkets and privileges of an American way of life, we,
as the Planet, have crossed the midpoint of oil production and discovery.
From now on, the only sure thing is that supply will continue to diminish
and prices will continue to increase. In these conditions world conflict
is a physical certainty. End of oil means end of world's financial
system, something which has already been acknowledged by Wall Street
Journal and the Financial Times, two full time members of the
Bilderberger inner circle. Goldman Sachs oil report, [another full time
member of the Bilderberger elite] published on March 30, 2005 increased
the oil price range for the year 2005-6 from $55-$80 per barrel to
$55-$105. During 2006 meeting, Bilderbergers have confirmed that their
short range price estimate for oil for the 2007-08 continues to hover
around US$105-150/barrel. No wonder Jose Barroso, President of the
European Commission, announced several months ago during the unveiling of
the new European energy policy that the time has come for a
"post-industrial age." To bring the world into the post industrial age,
you first need to destroy the world´s economic base and create another
Great Depression. When people are poor, they don´t spend money, they
don´t travel, and they don´t consume.
As the economic impact sinks in, and as the after effects of Peak Oil
become evident in the face of breakdown of civilization, the United
States will be forced to challenge Europe, Russia and China for the
hegemony of control and the ever depleting hydrocarbon, non-renewable
reserves most of which are contained in the Middle East. That will be
point number two on the Bilderberg 2007 agenda.
Third item on the agenda is European relations with Russia not only in
Europe but also in Central Asia. With Moscow making a deal with
Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan over the transport of gas to Europe, the US
geo-strategic goal of driving a wedge between the Central Asian countries
and Russia lies in shambles. While the US says this is "not good for
Europe", the Europeans are divided. Iran, overnight has become America's
last hope in the energy war.
Iran war, after two years of huffing and puffing by the Bush government
is definitely off the table. Furthermore, with France, Russia, Japan and
China investing heavily in Iran, the world has drawn a line in the sand
and the U.S. will be told at the conference not to cross it. There is
blood in the water, and blood in the water usually leads to a good fight.
That notwithstanding, the United States needs to control the region, not
only for its oil reserves but, most importantly to help it sustain world
economic hegemony. Under this strategic design, regional states will be
turned to weak domains of sectarian sheikhs with little or no sovereignty
and, by implications, a pathetic agenda of their economic development.
Regional chaos favours the spread of Islamic fundamentalism, which in
turn reinforces the process of political and social disintegration
supported by the Bilderbergers.
With Blair leaving, the UK will be told yet again, that they must, at all
cost, do what is necessary to integrate the country into the European
Community.
Finally, with Wolfowitz resigning from the World Bank, Bilderberg
luminaries will try to come to a consensus on how best to overhaul not
only the bank but its sister organization, the International Monetary
Fund (IMF), led by a Spaniard, Rodrigo Rato. Wolfowitz became entangled
in controversy seven weeks ago after World Bank whistleblowers leaked to
the Washington-based non-governmental organization Government
Accountability Project (GAP) documents that showed Wolfowitz pushing a
high pay raise in a secondment deal to the US State Department for his
girlfriend.
We, as a society, are at a crossroads. In almost every corner of the
planet, stress points are beginning to fracture. The roads we take from
here will determine the very future of humanity. It was former British
Prime Minister, Benjamin Disraeli, who stated that "the world is governed
by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not
behind the scenes."
It is not up to God to bring us back from the "New Dark Age" planned for
us. IT IS UP TO US. Whether we go into the next century as an electronic
global police state or as free human beings depends on the action we take
now. Forewarned is forearmed. We will never find the right answers if we
don't ask the proper questions.
"Marcuse in "One Dimensional Man" basically says that by stripping a man of his individuality by making him a conformist society thereby takes away his freedom. By giving him a narrow world view his freedom becomes illusory as there is no real, substantive choice: choice is not between real, bona fide alternatives, but between Coke vs. Pepsi, or being a lawyer or an investment banker, Mercedes Benz vs. Lexis, etc, etc., etc.
It is necessary for the system to create a society of one dimensional personalities in order to get them to choose to submit completely to the values of the system…so that the power structure can simply dictate their thinking…in the US case…for consumerism, militarism, etc."
Perfect. Thank you for reminding
moneylender
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There are a lot of people out there who want true and a free society.Those were the very ideals Hutch Min expressed when he took power.The powers that be did not want Vietnam to be a true democracy, the rest is history.That's what the leaders of Venezuela are trying to create power from the bottom up wards
You cannot create any fair society with out addressing the question of MONEY SUPPLY.As long as we allow Private Banks to create money out of NOTHING as a exponential compound interest bearing DEBT we will all remain enslaved from cradle to the grave.
Money will go into manufacture of Arms which will be used against the people to suppress them, press will be used to peddle false hood, elected representatives will be bought off from creating a true democracy.
Once the Money Supply is in the hands of the people, where the elected representatives are the sole distributors of the funds for productive capacity that will benefit every one, then you may be on a far better world
Illusion, yes the American people are living in an illusion as they are enslaved from cradle to the grave as the rest of the world.The Out Standing Market Credit Debt of that country in the last count stood at $76.63Trillion dollars, the Government will never be able to service the loan let alone repay the capital. Every day this amount is reflected in the books it accrues exponential compound interest. The US lives on a daily overdraft of Billions from the People's Bank of China (a turn up for the books), and others.
Every thing and every body in the US is owned by private banks, and you pay interest on every thing on money created out of NOTHING
But in the first world fed on rubbish both in mind and body, just to be healthy to be Cannon fodders to fight some one Else's war. In the Third World Eight million children die every year this has gone on for decades the holocaust is alive and well.
As long as Banks create money out of NOTHING as a compound interest bearing DEBT to finance wars where the profit margins are better than anything on offer you are in a vicious cycle of violence.
The arms industry is the most subsidised industry in any country, especially in the US..
''If you want to be a slave and pay the cost of your own slavery, let the banks create the money'
''Let me control and issue a nations' currency, I care not who writes its laws''
So you can 'ELECT' any party of any colour, it wold not matter an iota
Peace is profitless.
As the Late Lord Hailsm, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales pointed out, that we live in a tripartite totalitarian dictatorship; Press, Elected and Financial.
Interest is NOT necessary or inevitable, this insidious and invidious imposition on humankind should be abolished immediately and can be abolished
We are told we are all free and live in a democracy. People can be fooled all the time.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." - George W. Bush
Is the comment of matt donuts the result of hopeless pessimism, confusion, cluelessness, or real STUPIDITY? Maybe all of the above?
That is a very contentious "if" in the comment.
"matt donuts June 1st, 2007 4:15 pm
Naive all. Do not blame the ruling class. Blame the ruled: if the people are stupid enough, as a collective, to allow themselves to ruled rather than governed, blame them."
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Several observations on the following observation.
"hybridoma2001 June 2nd, 2007 7:11 am
I have no solutions, only one observation. Over the past thousands of years, there is one thing that has remained constant: human nature. The constitution of the United States of America – if read closely and several times – is a constitution written with human nature in mind."
What is this supposed unchanging constant called 'human nature'? Can something so unchanging and apparently universal account for variations and changes?
A close reading of the original constitution indicates that the framers had in mind the protection of property of the few from the potentially democratic many, who may vote directly to take some property away through government, if the electoral process was not checked and balanced so as to prevent democratic outcomes.
Here are the observations of James Madison,
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death."
"Landholders ought to have a share in the government to support these invaluable interests and check the other many.
They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority."
James Madison
Kirby needs to read books by Thomm Hartmann and others to see just how the middle class is being wiped out, how America is at the bottom of the list worldwide for caring for its citizens. And maybe a few books on secret societies like the skulls. Then maybe he will have a film worth viewing because it's all about who you know. Power is kept in tight circles.
Lots of complaining...not much discussion of what could work.
What does the perspective of victims of a ruling class leave us to do? Change them? Fight them? Give up? Big daddy won this round? In the 'marketplace of ideas' their system succeeds in part because there is no clearly articulated alternative vision...of an exchange economy without stupid inequities inherent in its design.
Check this out:
http://www.ied.info/
This is silly. When you are Ruling Class, you don't become a lawyer, you hire lawyers. You don't become an accountant, you hire accountants. You are born to Rule they are born to serve. They may be high priced Overseers, but they earn their keep and eventually may get their shot at the big-time and I don't mean President. Real power is NEVER public. They share similar traits with the Mafia in this and other regards. Same cultural roots, Aryan tribal feudalism. FAMILY & CLAN. Always. They ran things then too.
Top 1% of households own 50+% of the stock market and 42+% of all the aggregate wealth of the US. The Top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 96% combined. And those numbers are at least 5-6 years old. That's a Ruling Class.
Ruling Classes haven't changed in 4000 years. They want the same thing: Everything, Forever. They lack the gene for self-restraint. That is why, as a parasite, they always destroy their host population. Always.
Beware: Ruling Classes always and rightly fear a majority well-fed Middle Class with leisure time as their arch enemy. For obvious reasons. As the Trilateral Commission stated so long ago, "Excessive Democracy". The "Mob" don't like being raped by richfilth. The price of obscene wealth is always vast human misery. Always.
Beware #2: Ruling Classes have never needed a consumner economy in order for them to Rule. Never.
They don't need either a middle class or a consumer economy for them to Rule us Now. 80-20 is their preferred model. I can almost see the ruins now. What used to be Manhattan until it submerged (now an underwater snorkling theme park). The wasted rubble of a vast roadway system in the region that used to be called Los Angeles before the water dried up.
I did say they lacked self-restraint. People who live for that kind of power hold enormous bags of unconscious fear, sort of like Boy George in the White House. Hard to watch such a fragile personality engage a tidal wave of undeniable failure. Brittle breakz. That boy may yet eat his pistol in the Rose Garden on a dark night.
Peace.
What would work? In other words if we were to design a model exchange economy how would we guard against extremes of predation or unearned income? The game we play now is blatantly aristocratic in origin...I call it a monetocracy which is a short evolutionary step from monarchy...its outcomes are inherent in its basic design. This is an excellent website to explore this topic...
http://www.ied.info/books/money/introduction.html
Those of you that hate religion can chew on this a while. The most religious people in the world are the ones that worship money and power. Corporations are their church.
Bu$h the inferior and his gang worship money and power while claiming they love Jesus. (By their fruit ye shall know them.)
Their whole life is a lie. Don't be fooled, the ruling class will not physically genuflect on their knees in front of a big dollar sign. Nobody worships as faithfully as the ruling class, that is why they feel no guilt, they are serving their god.
Aum33: maybe I made an error relating a posting to you, as I can't find THE posting now! WE know there are sources checking our emails for buzz words, and who knows what's up. Sometimes I can't log onto this site, and the other day when I keyed in commondreams, articles posted on MAY 1 came up, not the articles for THAT day. If it was a glitch with commondreams (as opposed to my computer)I'd like to know. As I've said before, modern times in America have caught up with the paranoids. The David Icke piece was all about the elaborate workings of the Bilderbergs and established elite families. His contention is that THEY are the ones who plan the wars to modulate things like weapon & oil prices. He contends that they PICK our leaders for us, and given the lack of discernible distinction these days between the candidates groomed (and pre-selected) by each party, certainly there IS evidence to support that contention. I could lend credence to much of his argument until, as I related, other articles on his site (he's quite a popular guest on radio shows in UK) speak of this alien race embedded into our own. HUMAN origins go back half a million years (and that's not counting our evolutionary partners), but human history a scant 3000. There are many accounts that the human race has been SEEDED by aliens, and who knows... but the green blood thing, that really crosses over into never land.
a news bulletin in just now. protests in Germany over the G8 meeting. I wonder sometimes about these. How effective are clashes with police. It certainly gets attention in the media. I sometimes want to shut it down, end the waste and stress and the injustice. But I think Americans are happy.I'm pretty happy with my life and economic status. It's when I look around me that I realize the terrible inequities and the destruction of our ecosystems. For all its worth much of the changes in globalization have 'benefited' a large swath of Americans. Millions others are living on the edge of debt, a growing millions are living in or close to poverty. I have no answers just observations as well. I do know that many just keep the TV on and don't think too deeply and everything is relatively peachy. Sort of.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18998137/
I echo the above poster who said the posts here having a unique value.
Americans have these Horatio Alger ideas that any Rube can rise to the top and make a billion and enter the corridors of power. To some extent that is true, if the rube in question is a white male "bright" with access to money for Ivy League education. But what about the other 99.9%? Why do they insist on believing that their own chance to exercise power best lies in the ability to "move up" than to make life better right at the level where they are? Why is it only for those who "move up" to have discretion over how they spend their time. Ability to enjoy a good life (and I don't mean consumables)? Why don't most Americans just want to make things better at the middle and bottom instead of pinning all hopes and dreams on this unrealistic idea of "making it?"
Arbeitmachtfree, you sound an awful lot like Hype on RMP. Are you he? Oh, and I also agree with your Marcusean observation.
I have been silent for a while. Everyday, I read the articles and as many posts responding to the articles here on Common Dreams as I can.
I have no solutions, only one observation. Over the past thousands of years, there is one thing that has remained constant: human nature. The constitution of the United States of America – if read closely and several times – is a constitution written with human nature in mind. These educated and intelligent men drew upon their collective knowledge of history and human nature and did their best to create a document that would survive the changes time brings because they understood human nature. Might makes Right, etc…
If you read the Federalist Papers (I read them 4 times, with a dictionary) you also get the idea that these Founders of our Nation knew and understood human nature.
As Scott Ritter wrote the other day, "It's time to get back to basics." As many have written, it is we the people who must take back this country; town by town, city by city, State by State, until we finally reach the Federal level.
I agree that it might take blood or "manure" to refresh the tree of Liberty. Certainly, there has been enough manure produced here in the USA in the past 25 years to fertilize the entire Earth. I hope it doesn't come to that.
Finally, I have to say that almost every post has a point of view that is valid – at least to me. I also thought of the animals which live on this planet; and most of those animals which live in groups can live in harmony. Why can't we? Is it the existence of money and property?
Again, I have no solution other than that I do my best everyday to treat others the way I would have then treat me.
Thank you everyone for all the valuable opinions and points of view.
One aspect of power in America is that ownership and control aren't necessarily the same. We have rather nameless folks that control huge amounts of assets-or media-and don't really own that much.
Atta baby, Irish, you take it to 'em!
For the rest of you, Irish is my brother-in-law, and he's a smart - and clever - fella we all should watch and pay attention to. Plus, he's on the side of the angels.
When's your next film coming out? In the mean time, bless your good heart.
Sometimes the ironies are blinding.
These are the same people who insist, loudly, that there is now no need for 'affirmative action' because women and people of color have now made it to the top......
What is absolutely incomprehensible to me is why more of the people NOT running the oligarchy, and more of the people who are being ground up in its gears, don't get it.
To limit power, limit wealth direct democratically.
Men, of whatever class, have been doing a half-assed job of it ever since they kicked their better half's ass out. If men are ever strong enough to admit women back into their rightful place (that includes admitting their own feminine traits), there's a chance we may yet straighten out this mess we call civilization. Men rule/run/ruin the world. The ruling class is just the tip of the iceberg. A very, very big tip, and cold as hell.
Marcuse in "One Dimensional Man" basically says that by stripping a man of his individuality by making him a conformist society thereby takes away his freedom. By giving him a narrow world view his freedom becomes illusory as there is no real, substantive choice: choice is not between real, bona fide alternatives, but between Coke vs. Pepsi, or being a lawyer or an investment banker, Mercedes Benz vs. Lexis, etc, etc., etc.
It is necessary for the system to create a society of one dimensional personalities in order to get them to choose to submit completely to the values of the system...so that the power structure can simply dictate their thinking...in the US case...for consumerism, militarism, etc.
Who rules America , and the West .
Why ,all the fat cats . Among them : Halliburton and the other robber barons ,the Arms merchants, the Media cartels,the oil companies and sheiks , and the shadowy drug cartels .
The common folk have no hope whatsoever. Their lot is to be trapped in circumstances , more wretched than that of the feudal serfs. With little possibility of escape.
The only good thing is : the sheer weight of the West's wealth should ultimately crush her.
I agree that maintaining a 'siege mentality' in American's distracts them from the 'war of the pocketbook' each American should be engaged in. The President says 'we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here'. He fails to mention that the 'them' we would be fighting over here is US, once we realized just how little we were getting paid for a days work, and how much we are encouraged to overconsume by our televisions and other media. Distraction is the name of the game and they've done well at it. The best kind of 'Divide and Conquer' strategy is to divide you from your own real interests.
While this will certainly be a film that I will see, I suspect that this film will be guilty of a fairly typical American myopia. Although I hesitate to criticize a film that at least has the courage to use a phrase like "ruling class," I feel uneasy about a film whose director resorts to rhetorical flights of fantasy like this:
"Though we posses powers and riches undreamed of by the Sun King himself, as of the early 21st Century our rulers have done virtually nothing to raise the great mass of Americans out of ignorance and poverty, and much to ensure that they stay there." (my emphasis)
The italicized phrase gives the false impression that something approaching a majority of Americans (Kirby's "great mass of Americans") live in poverty. While it is undeniably true that the gap between the wealthiest and poorest Americans continues to grow at an alarming rate and that the percentage of Americans in poverty has increased as well, it is false to suggest that anything like a majority of Americans live in poverty.
To suggest as much is to do serious violence to the idea of poverty (depriving the term of real meaning) and to display the very myopia I am criticizing. If we shift our focus to our southern border, we can quickly see that the extent of poverty in the United States is small by comparison with Mexico. This does not mean that it is not scandalous.
Still, I'm concerned over what I suspect is an unacknowledged acceptance of America's global domination. The exaggerated claims about the poverty and ignorance of the "great mass of Americans" expresses outrage over the concentration of wealth and power by America's ruling class, but it fails to critique American imperialism itself. It seems merely to desire a more equitable distribution of domestic wealth and power rather than concern itself with questions of the inequity in the distribution of global wealth.
Any discussion of the redistribution of America's domestic wealth that doesn't include a discussion of the vast disparities in the distribution/concentration of global wealth or America's overconsumption of world resources as well is only attending to part of the issue.
Siouxrose
You wrote:
Aum33: I've read much of your posted commentary on David Icke's site...
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I've never read any articles or posted anything on that person's site. Must be a different person with the same name as mine. Any conspiracy theories concerning alleged "reptilian blood" is far too much for me!
:-)
Apparently that Bilderber report above is on this web site:
http://www.danielestulin.com/?idioma=en
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The man with the plan to turn the USA around:
http://kucinich.us
Some of these areas are covered in Perkin's Confession of an Economic Hit Man.
I like forums like this as although it it mainly commenting on the USA and Australia is just a pimple on the southern hemisphere, so much that happens here is a mirror of the USA.
From the wars we attend to the rhetoric of our politicians. The right in Australia has declared that class war is old hat while they are waging a war on the masses. We are expected to believe that a CEO getting $30 mill plus for a year is earned but the lowest paid workers should give up their overtime and penalty rates to save the economy. Unions are being squashed and legislation called WorkChoices was enacted. This was sold to us in a massive taxpayer funded blitz that tried to tell us that if you only had to deal with the employer and not the unions then you had more 'choice' to make your working arrangements more 'flexible', even if this meant trading off all your previous award conditions for a measly few cents per hour. It is a take it or leave it 'choice'.
It has been obvious to anyone paying attention that our Liberal Party (strangely enough, equivalent to your Republicans) was distinctly on the nose, yet they kept voting for them because of manufactured scare campaigns. The response of the Australian Labor Party was to head further right to capture the so called middle ground. Now union bashing is no longer just the preserve of the ruling party and big business is rushing to fill the coffers of the opposition now that they can smell the change in the air. As much as I applaud the sinking of the Liberals in the opinion polls, I can find no comfort in the votes of so many people that have been fooled for so many years. I suppose they voted for the real right wingers as opposed to the pretenders shuffling in fast from the left and now they can't tell the difference.
http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/
Keep up the good work. I am no anti-American as I can see there are obviously too many great people like yourselves to fall into that cliche.
It's the Plantation Economy and it doesn't require a lot of research. A friend tells a story of visiting a Polish mine where, in the depths, ponies pulled the ore cars back and forth, filled and empty, between the veins and the lifts. The small horses were lowered down to work -- once. Back and forth they go until they first go blind and then fail and die. They are buried in the depths of the mine. No health care, no retirement, no social security, no problem.
Fabulous article, and thanks aum33. Gore Vidal calls them "the Ruling Crass". Must see that movie. Lewis Lapham is going to be on C-Span at noon Eastern this Sunday.
One thing I thought for sure would be on the Bilderberger's agenda was control of the Internet. Not to inject a little paranoia here, but one poster recently suggested that they're not interfering with it too much because this way they got our number.
Ultimately blame isn't very helpful - I agree
The masses are to blame but they are addicted to MSM.
Aum33: I've read much of your posted commentary on David Icke's site, and while he raises some intriguing questions, he happens to believe not that leaders like Bush, Baker, Albright etc are just metaphorically filled with reptilian blood, but they actually stem from a stream of aliens that HAVE reptilian blood. Possibly you got this email from another source, and parts of it may well be true; but if Icke is its origination point, there are certainly bizarre aspects to his thinking process and allegations.
As for making IT a musical, remember, it's usually the FOOL who has the liberty to tell the king/kingdom the hard truths! I love Lapham!
John Kirby, you may want to look a bit deeper. Perhaps even do some research or ask some questions of the poster above, aum33. Doesn't the bickering among the Left and our continual "fighting the good fight" seem so small, so inconsequential in light of the REAL power brokers who make ALL the moves in governments around the world, ours included. Aum33, thank you for an enlightening article! The Bilderberg... And we worry about who's going to be the next Democratic presidential nominee? What we should be doing is preparing for the eventual collapse of what we now know as "our day to day way of life".
Just....
wow.
I'm somewhat dubious of this.
1. Although Harpers is one of the better mags, you don't get to edit it by having a radical outlook.
2. Adding "American" to ruling class muddles the issue.
3. Usually musicals make things lighthearted and there's nothing lighthearted about this topic.
I'm of the opinion that the time to start writing the new constitution -- a strengthening, clarification, and modernization of the current one -- is now. Best to have something waiting in the wings. Let's call it USA 2.0. Ramrod straight and unambiguous, no over-complications, zero tolerance for crookedness.
My twobits: population-proportionate unicameral parliamentary body, Range Vote, no electronic voting machines, ability to recount ballots on the same night with the whole precinct watching -- physically, on the premises -- if need be.
In the physical world, would you blame a mugger or the victim? In the memetic/intellectual, do you blame the liar or the lied-to?
There are good, trusting & loyal Americans across the country. Everyone is responsible. Nobody should be "blamed" for being too trusting, too loyal.
Ultimately blame isn't very helpful. Solutions.
would anyone know how to get a hold of a copy of this film/dvd? seems to be no way to order or info about showings from their website, thanks.
Here is my Idea,
We will have a protest vote for the next election for President that will mean change but it will be a protest that matters because it will for the first time unite voters on the right and left who have had enough of the big Money rule in politics and our search for happieness and a secure future.
Voting for any of the 3rd parties will not be large enough to win because they are all splintered and don't get enough money to win.
So this is our option in case none of the big money candidates measure up to the task of a real revolution to face the future and fix it.
Vote for yourself by writing yourself in or anyone else who is the best choice.
The massive under-vote for president will stand as a virtual "none of the above" and will serve for the first time as a protest vote against the big money system.
Us regular folks need to realize that framing is how we got to where we are in our political trap and the frame goes back to the earliest days of government.
over ninety percent of the global population are right handed and since the human mind uses association for all critical thinking, the ruling classes always claimed the right side in the symbolic framing of political power so that the ruled majority always were on the left side (with the weak, evil, connotation it gets) while the rich and powerfull capture all the mental associations of being right, strong and even though the wealthy are in the minority they can claim by unconscious mental association the majority of right handed people to their convenient
Right/Left universal political frame.
I believe there will be no real good revolution or change as long as we do not face up to the straw men of Right against Left and capitalism against socialism which really are the balance of private and public ownership.
People of the world unite the only thing to lose is your frames.
3rd parties will not unite us untill we face up to the old tricks that divide us.
We now have the option and it wont take big money….just pass the word around our internet revolution that to vote for yourself will be the big protest vote that will see the change in the big money game. The huge undervote for president will be our Boston Tea Party.
Let the party begin.
Love Ya, Jim
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10081&st=0&#entry104042
Someone tell Laura Flanders, author of the next article, to get a clue--lest she keep encouraging us all to keep banging our head against the wall, chasing hope upon hope--maybe in September, maybe next year, maybe down the road, maybe after the election--while all the while same old, same old.
When you mention "Ruling class," the right-wing-nuts say that those on the left are somehow provoking class warfare ... which is interesting since it is the right wing that has been waging said warfare on the middle class for more than 25 years.
Wow, "51% of US discretionary budget for war funding". No other country could afford such a diversion of national wealth. America is so rich, due to its ideology (capitalism) and history (immigration of the brightest peoples from around the world), that it actually can afford it.
Peoples from all countries have been shown they can bear around 70% government confiscation of wealth, and with the 30% left, Americans are still the richest, and with 20% on social welfare trinkets, the poor can be bought off. That leaves an easy 50% to go on political games. And I guess their favorite game has always been the accumulation of ever more international power and the thrills of killing and warfare.
But the bigger issue really is this, who controls the information programmed into the population.
I don't think that anyone who mentions "the ruling class" at all should be called a "coward or worse a fraud". The existence of "the ruling class" is one of the great unmentionables in mainstream media culture.
Other research may not be necessary, but it could help.
The group of people Jim Naran is mentioning does an excellent job of guiding the debate and directing attention away from the ruling class, but they do not absolutely "control" what we read, hear and see -- if that were true, Common Dreams and other such sites, publications like The Nation and Mother Jones would not exist, and Lewis Lapham and others of similar bent would have been among the disappeared a long time ago.
That's not to say that this isn't the direction we're heading.
John Kirby has proven himself to be a coward or worse a fraud.
There is a group of people who control what Americans see, hear and read.
If I control what you see, hear and read, I own you.
No other research is necessary.
Naive all. Do not blame the ruling class. Blame the ruled: if the people are stupid enough, as a collective, to allow themselves to ruled rather than governed, blame them. The elites know what they want and how to get it. That is not going to change. It is the usual liberal cop-out to blame others and leave the masses out. The fact is, masses gain as much form imperialism as the elite; just the proportions are different. Need to start with the basics again. Read William Appleman Williams.