Why Bush Hasn't Been Impeached
Congress, The Media and Most of The American People Have Yet To Turn Decisively Against Bush because To Do So Would Be To Turn Against Some Part of Themselves.
The Bush presidency is a lot of things. It's a secretive cabal, a cavalcade of incompetence, a blood-stained Church Militant, a bad rerun of "The Godfather" in which scary men in suits pay ominous visits to hospital rooms. But seen from the point of view of the American people, what it increasingly resembles is a bad marriage. America finds itself married to a guy who has turned out to be a complete dud. Divorce -- which in our nonparliamentary system means impeachment -- is the logical solution. But even though Bush cheated on us, lied, besmirched our family's name and spent all our money, we the people, not to mention our elected representatives and the media, seem content to stick it out to the bitter end.
There is a strange disconnect in the way Americans think about George W. Bush. He is extraordinarily unpopular. His approval ratings, which have been abysmal for about 18 months, have now sunk to their lowest ever, making him the most unpopular president in a generation. His 28 percent approval rating in a May 5 Newsweek poll ties that of Jimmy Carter in 1979 after the failed Iran rescue mission. Bush's unpopularity has emboldened congressional Democrats, who now have no qualms about attacking him directly and flatly asserting that his Iraq war is lost.
Some of them have also been willing to invoke the I-word -- joining a large number of Americans. Several polls taken in the last two years have shown that large numbers of Americans support impeachment. An Angus Reid poll taken in May 2007 found that a remarkable 39 percent of Americans favored the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. An earlier poll, framed in a more hypothetical way, found that 50 percent of Americans supported impeaching Bush if he lied about the war -- which most of that 50 percent presumably now believe he did. Vermont has gone on record in calling for his impeachment, and a number of cities, including Detroit and San Francisco, have passed impeachment resolutions. Reps. John Murtha and John Conyers and a few other politicians have floated the idea. And there is a significant grassroots movement to impeach Bush, spearheaded by organizations like After Downing Street. Even some Republicans, outraged by Bush's failure to uphold right-wing positions (his immigration policy, in particular), have begun muttering about impeachment.
Bush's unpopularity is mostly a result of Iraq, which most Americans now believe was a colossal mistake and a war we cannot win. But his problems go far beyond Iraq. His administration has been dogged by one massive scandal after the other, from the Katrina debacle, to Bush's approval of illegal wiretapping and torture, to his unparalleled use of "signing statements" to disobey laws he disagrees with, to the outrageous Gonzales and U.S. attorneys affair.
In response to these outrages, a growing literature of pro-impeachment books, from "The Case for Impeachment" by Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky to "U.S. v. Bush" by Elizabeth Holtzman to "The Impeachment of George W. Bush" by Elizabeth de la Vega, argue not only that Bush's misdeeds are clearly impeachable, but also that a failure to impeach a rogue president bent on amassing unprecedented power will threaten our most cherished traditions. As Lindorff and Olshansky conclude, "If we fail to stand up for the Constitution now, it may be only a piece of paper by the end of President Bush's second term. Then it will be time to be afraid."
Yet the public's dislike of Bush has not translated into any real move to get rid of him. The impeach-Bush movement has not really taken off yet, and barring some unforeseen dramatic development, it seems unlikely that it will. Even if there were a mass popular movement to impeach Bush, it's far from clear that Congress, which alone has the power to initiate impeachment proceedings, would do anything. The Democratic congressional majority has been at best lukewarm to the idea. In any case, their constituents have not demanded it forcefully or in such numbers that politicians feel they must respond. Democrats, and for that matter Americans of all political persuasions, seem content to watch Bush slowly bleed to death.
Why? Why was Clinton, who was never as unpopular as Bush, impeached for lying about sex, while Bush faces no sanction for the far more serious offense of lying about war?
The main reason is obvious: The Democrats think it's bad politics. Bush is dying politically and taking the GOP down with him, and impeachment is risky. It could, so the cautious Beltway wisdom has it, provoke a backlash, especially while the war is still going on. Why should the Democrats gamble on hitting the political jackpot when they're likely to walk away from the table big winners anyway?
These realpolitik considerations might be sufficient by themselves to prevent Congress from impeaching Bush. Impeachment is a strange phenomenon -- a murky combination of the legal, the political and the emotional. The Constitution offers no explicit guidance on what constitutes an impeachable offense, stating only that a president can be impeached and, if convicted, removed from office for treason, bribery "or other high crimes and misdemeanors." As a result, politicians contemplating impeachment take their cues from a number of disparate factors -- not just a president's misdeeds, but a cost-benefit analysis. And Congress tends to follow the cost-benefit analysis. If you're going to kill the king, you have to make sure you succeed -- and there's just enough doubt in Democrats' minds to keep their swords sheathed.
But there's a deeper reason why the popular impeachment movement has never taken off -- and it has to do not with Bush but with the American people. Bush's warmongering spoke to something deep in our national psyche. The emotional force behind America's support for the Iraq war, the molten core of an angry, resentful patriotism, is still too hot for Congress, the media and even many Americans who oppose the war, to confront directly. It's a national myth. It's John Wayne. To impeach Bush would force us to directly confront our national core of violent self-righteousness -- come to terms with it, understand it and reject it. And we're not ready to do that.
The truth is that Bush's high crimes and misdemeanors, far from being too small, are too great. What has saved Bush is the fact that his lies were, literally, a matter of life and death. They were about war. And they were sanctified by 9/11. Bush tapped into a deep American strain of fearful, reflexive bellicosity, which Congress and the media went along with for a long time and which has remained largely unexamined to this day. Congress, the media and most of the American people have yet to turn decisively against Bush because to do so would be to turn against some part of themselves. This doesn't mean we support Bush, simply that at some dim, half-conscious level we're too confused -- not least by our own complicity -- to work up the cold, final anger we'd need to go through impeachment. We haven't done the necessary work to separate ourselves from our abusive spouse. We need therapy -- not to save this disastrous marriage, but to end it.
At first glance it seems odd that Bush's fraudulent case for war has saved him. War is the most serious action a nation can undertake, and lying to Congress and the American people about the need for war is arguably the most serious offense a public official can commit, short of treason. But the unique gravity of war surrounds it with a kind of patriotic force field. There is an ancient human deference to The Strong Man Who Will Defend Us, an atavistic surrender to authority that goes back through Milosevic, to Henry V, to Beowulf and the ring givers, and ultimately to Cro-Magnon tribesmen huddled around the campfire at the feet of the biggest, strongest warrior. Even when it is unequivocally shown that a leader lied about war, as is the case with Bush, he or she is still protected by this aura. Going to war is the best thing a rogue president can do. It's like taking refuge in a church: No one can come and get you there. There's a reason Bush kept repeating, "I'm a war president. I'm a war president." It worked, literally, like a charm.
And many of the American people shared Bush's views. A large percentage of the American people, and their elected representatives, accepted Bush's unlimited authority to do whatever he wanted in the name of "national security." And they reaffirmed this acceptance when, long after his fraudulent case for war had been exposed as such, they reelected him. Lindorff and Olshansky quote former Republican Sen. Lowell Weicker, who justifies his opposition to impeachment by saying, "Bush obviously lied to the country and the Congress about the war, but we have a system of elections in this country. Everyone knew about the lying before the 2004 elections, and they didn't do anything about it ... Bush got elected. The horse is out of the barn now."
To be sure, the war card works better under some circumstances than others. It is arguable that if there had been no 9/11, Bush's fraudulent case for war really would have resulted in his impeachment -- though this is far from certain. But 9/11 did happen, and as a result, large numbers of Americans did not just give Bush carte blanche but actively wanted him to attack someone. They were driven not by policy concerns but by primordial retribution, reflexive and self-righteous rage. And it wasn't just the masses who were calling for the United States to reach out and smash someone. Pundits like Henry Kissinger and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman also called for America to attack the Arab world. Kissinger, according to Bob Woodward's "State of Denial," said that "we need to humiliate them"; Friedman said we needed to "go right into the heart of the Arab world and smash something." As Friedman's statement indicates, who we smashed was basically unimportant. Friedman and Kissinger argued that attacking the Arab would serve as a deterrent, but that was a detail. For many Americans, who Bush attacked or the reasons he gave, didn't matter -- what mattered was that we were fighting back.
To this day, the primitive feeling that in response to 9/11 we had to hit hard at "the enemy," whoever that might be, is a sacred cow. America's deference to the shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later approach is profound: It's the gut belief that still drives Bush supporters and leads them to regard war critics as contemptible appeasers. This is why Bush endlessly repeats his mantra "We're staying on the attack."
The unpleasant truth is that Bush did what a lot of Americans wanted him to. And when it became clear after the fact that Bush had lied about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, it made no sense for those Americans to turn on him. Truth was never their major concern anyway -- revenge was. And if we took revenge on the wrong person, well, better a misplaced revenge than none at all.
For those who did not completely succumb to the desire for primitive vengeance but were convinced by Bush's fraudulent arguments about the threat posed by Saddam, the situation is more ambiguous. Now that his arguments have been exposed and the war has become a disaster, they feel let down, even betrayed -- but not enough to motivate them to call for Bush's impeachment. This is because they cannot exorcise the still-mainstream view that Bush's lies were justifiable and even noble, Straussian untruths told in support of what Bush believed to be a good cause. According to this line of thinking, since Bush and his neocon brain trust really believed that Saddam Hussein was a dangerous tyrant, the lies they told in whipping up support for war were, while reprehensible, somewhat forgivable.
In Elizabeth de la Vega's book on impeachment, framed as a fictitious indictment of Bush for conspiring to defraud the United States, she argues that from a legal standpoint it doesn't matter that Bush may have believed his lies were in the service of a higher good -- he's still guilty of fraud. In a brilliant stroke, de la Vega compares the Bush administration's lies to those told by Enron executives -- who were, of course, rightfully convicted.
The problem is that the American people are not judging Bush by the standards of law. The Bush years have further weakened America's once-proud status as a nation of laws, not of men. The law, for Bush, is like language for Humpty Dumpty: it means just what he chooses it to mean, neither more nor less. This attitude has become disturbingly widespread -- which may explain why Bush's illegal wiretapping, his approval of torture, and his administration's partisan purge of U.S. district attorneys have not resulted in wider outrage.
This society-wide diminution of respect for law has helped Bush immeasurably. It is not just the law that America has turned away from, but what the law stands for -- accountability, memory, history and logic itself. That anonymous senior Bush advisor who spoke with surreal condescension of "the reality-based community" may have summed up our cultural moment more acutely than anyone else in years. A society without memory, driven by ephemeral emotions, which demands no consistency from its leaders but only gusty patriotism, is a society that is not about to engage in the painful self-examination that impeachment would mean.
A corollary to the decline of logic is our acceptance of the universality of spin. It no longer seems odd to us that a president should lie to get what he wants. In this regard, Bush, the most sanctimonious of presidents, must be seen as having degraded traditional American values more than the most relativist, Nietzsche-spouting postmodernist.
All of these factors -- the sacrosanct status of war, the public's complicity in an irrational demonstration of raw power, the loss of respect for law, logic and memory, the bland acceptance of spin and lies, the public unconcern about the fraudulence of Bush's actions -- have created a situation in which it is widely accepted that Bush's lies about Iraq were not impeachable or even that scandalous, but merely a matter of policy. Just as conservatives lamely charged that the Scooter Libby case represented the "criminalization of politics," so the conventional wisdom holds that distorting evidence to justify a war may be slightly reprehensible, but is not worth making much of a fuss about, and is certainly not impeachable.
The establishment media, which has tended to treat impeachment talk as if it were the unseemly rantings of half-crazed hordes, has clearly bought this paradigm. In this view, those who want to impeach Bush, or who are simply vehemently critical of him, are partisan extremists outside the mainstream of American discourse. This decorous approach has begun to weaken. A recent U.S. News and World Report cover read, "Bush's last stand: He's plagued by a hostile Congress, sinking polls, and an unending war. Is he resolute or delusional?" When centrist newsweeklies begin using words drawn from psychiatric manuals, it may be time for Karl Rove to get worried. But it takes time to turn the Titanic. The years of deference to the War Leader cannot be overcome that quickly.
For all these reasons, impeachment, however justified or salutary it would be -- and I believe it would be both justified and salutary -- remains a long shot. Bush will probably escape the fate of Andrew Johnson and the disgrace of Richard Nixon. But he's not home free yet. The culture of spin is also the culture of spectacle, and a sudden, theatrical event -- a lurid accusation made by a former official, a colorful revelation of a very specific and memorable Bush lie -- could start the scandal machine going full speed. Even the war card cannot be played indefinitely. If Bush were to withdraw the troops from Iraq, and the full dimensions of America's defeat were to become apparent, all of his war-president potency would backfire and he would be in much greater danger of being impeached. Congress and the media both gain courage as the polls sink, and if Bush's numbers continue to hit historic lows, they will turn on him with increasing savagery. If everything happens just so, the downfall of the House of Bush could be shocking in its swiftness.
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Show AllJust review all of the entries on Common Dreams for this ONE day! A majority have dealt with the vote on the funding for the Iraq War and its chief protagonist whose onlycommentary is a rehash of the old line (lie) that "Al Qaeda did/does it!" And we let him get by with it! We do need a broad coalition to band together and throw most of the politicians out - - not in 2008, but NOW!
The Grassroots Impeachment Movement (GRIM) is working in North Carolina to impeach Bush and Cheney. We have called for a coordinated and planned impeachment effort nationwide but, as Scott Ritter so aptly pointed out, even the anti-war movement is a disorganized joke. So how much more so the impeachment 'movement' whether due to CIA infiltration ans/or petty egos of the so-called impeachment movement leaders. But we refuse to give up! Our democracy is in tatters and perpetual war is not an option. So we're focused on North Carolina. Visit www.impeachbushcheney.net
This is mere spin. Not only do the majority of American people and people of the world want this Administration impeached. They want them to spend time in Quantanamo while awaiting trial, tortured (a tool they believe in), and tried and convicted of treason and finally executed in the Washington Mall as a lesson for all politicians guilty of treason.
I am not sure I believe in the concept of evil...but if it exists...Bush and gang are it!
The problem with impeaching the whole lot of them at this point is that it would destroy the Republican party, thereby most likely helping to create a viable third party, or even increasing pressure for a more proportional representation scheme (i.e. approval voting). This terrifies the Democratic leadership even more than Republican domination does.
With our current system, it doesn't much matter what the people want, as long as what they want doesn't directly impact party leadership.
As for myself, I say:
Impeach, prosecute, convict, execute. It's the law.
Televise it with humorous commentary. It's entertainment.
Bill from Saginaw May 23rd, 2007 11:23 am
Lobo Gris -
"You don't need details to impeach. Bush stated in public that he violated the 1978 FISA Act….. No other proof, hearings or investigations are needed….."
"Bush also stated in public (on the campaign trail in 2004) that he always complied with the FISA warrant requirement. Given the credibility of the speaker, which of George Bush's contradictory statements shall we elect to believe? This is a slender reed to lean upon to prove guilt on a high crime."
Not a thin reed at all;
"Administration Pulls Back on Surveillance Agreement
By James Risen
The New York Times
Wednesday 02 May 2007
Washington - Senior Bush administration officials told Congress on Tuesday that they could not pledge that the administration would continue to seek warrants from a secret court for a domestic wiretapping program, as it agreed to do in January.
Rather, they argued that the president had the constitutional authority to decide for himself whether to conduct surveillance without warrants.
As a result of the January agreement, the administration said that the National Security Agency's domestic spying program has been brought under the legal structure laid out in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which requires court-approved warrants for the wiretapping of American citizens and others inside the United States.
But on Tuesday, the senior officials, including Michael McConnell, the new director of national intelligence, said they believed that the president still had the authority under Article II of the Constitution to once again order the N.S.A. to conduct surveillance inside the country without warrants."
And I dozens of other examples where Bush has openly flouted the law.
You know the old saying "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush" That aptly applies here.
Lobo Gris
Until today's news, I would have said that impeachment is a bad idea. There are many things Congress should be doing aside from what would become a media kabuki. I would have said that we can deal with the criminality of these guys after 2008. But now it appears that no other avenue is open to halting this mad warmaking. Our young people are dying and getting terrible injuries-for-life; due to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead and 2 million refugees, thanks to our war-of-choice, we face years of animosity in the oil-rich region of the world. The idea that we can control that resource in a region where everybody hates us, labels us greedy occupiers and imperialists (and with certain justification in my opinion,) means that we will someday soon lose control of those oil fields, and most likely it will be China/India/Russia that become the masters of this resource. So what bushwa has done is destructive to this country and the world at large in the short, medium, and long runs. This is the most devastating assault on our Constitutional system since at least the time of the Southern sucession from the Union, and is therefore the Mother Of All Impeachable Offenses. So with no other alternative open to those of us who would end the madness, impeachment appears the only course: call your congresspeople now and urge them to move forward!
What luck for rulers that men don't think. Adolf Hitler
The majority of our government officials are to busy lining their own pockets and remaining in office to be concered with actually doing anything to help save our country. They don't care how we feel or what we think.
Premiere Bush and the rest of our Comrades in Moscow DC. feel that they are above the law. I suppose they are right as shown by the number of laws broken by this administration. With corporate america controlling the MSM and Congress, the Politboro counting the votes, what do they have to fear?
truly a scrumptious serving of 5 star gourmet sophistry.my compliments to the chef.this one will be hard to top,though.the ingenious "blame the puppet " defense.or even better,blame the dog on the chain.the only problem i can see with pieces like this is that they may convert our comfort zone into the twilight zone,or is it the other way around?
I've posted this many times on Common Dreams and I will post it again: There will be no impeachment because the rattlesnake repubs have collected information on over 256 MIL Americans. They have blackmail material to keep those in check that have the power to impeach. I saw that FleetoCanadaNow said the same thing!
Also, in pre-WWII Germany, information (two censuses) was collected on German citizens that was used later for purging. There are over 600+ "illegal immigrant detainee centers" that sit idly without inmates but are fully guarded. Look up "Rex 84" and "Global Cleanse 2000" and then connect this to the new concentration camps.
Do any of you actually think that the neo-con fascists are going to give up the Reins of Power? Look what they've done so far and they've gotten away with most of it, especially the BIg STUFF. They manipulated the past two elections. What guarantees are there that they won't do it again? And if the vote is rigged again, the people will surely riot. This will be the excuse to force Marshall Law. Then the new concentration camps will start filling up...
If these people aren't impeached RIGHT NOW, no one will be able to remove them in the future except through revolution. And how is that going to happen if everyone is chipped? All Power needs is an excuse for Marshall Law and not only is the current regime installed permanently but they will insist that everyone gets "chipped" for their "protection" when it will really be for protection for the System.
"America failed because the American people failed. The American people failed because their self-righteousness and hubris made them easy saps for deception."
I wish I was able to utter these words before misanthrope did. These words, this piece of sobering truth, are a bitter pill to take for Americans in general because yeah they should have revolted in January 2001, even before 9/11, because their election was rigged! It was rigged! Ok Republicans and you know it? Deny it all you want! Your denial means nothing to me becasue I know the truth and your real intention behind you scum! You guys cheated! Let's accept what is true ok? I quote Josef Stalin, "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
The penalty for those who pulled a fast one and completely destroyed any prospect for real Democracy to flourish in the United States? Let's not be merciful here as your own country is at stake! After all, this same party that cheated - the GOP - does not even acknowlege or respect Democratic nations throughout the world in their decisions. For example, the PLO and Iran in modern times. The GOP only accepts Democracy as an ideal form of Government when convenient to do so.
"They" count the votes, thus deciding who will "lead", and "they" also decide what will or will not be news. The movement to impeach is one of the most heavily censored stories in recent history.
We are so screwed, but we have to keep fighting and spreading the truth. Maybe we'll get a few small breakthroughs or maybe we'll several few huge breakthroughs, but we have to fight. It's far better than sitting on our hands like ignorant children. We have to think about future generations too. What kind of world will they inherit from us? It'd be worse if all the good people buried their heads in the sand.
Democrats and Clinton fans, please watch this 8 min recording of a recent talk by Robert Jensen (he's like a young Howard Zinn/Noam Chomsky):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zbu1o6W4sI
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P.S. MoonRaven - what part of Mexico was that?
For you love it or leave it types who are just too stupid to wake up and smell the coffee: the ambient temperature in the part of Mexico where I have lived for almost 14 years is right about 80 degrees F year round.
If you can beat that, my sombrero is off to you!
Bush is not my President. I never voted for him and I never subscribed to the notion of hitting someone, anyone in retaliation for 9/11. When he and his administration tried to sell Iraq, I was asking, what about Bin Laden? When he donned the Top Gun uniform and stood atop the USS Lincoln with a big banner reading "Mission Accomplished" in 2003, I asked, what about Bin Laden? And I know that I wasn't alone in asking why Iraq and I'm not alone in asking why are we still there today? I'm not in absolute denial about my opinion about him and his administration because they don't and never intended to represent me or my interests. If you want to use the abusive husband analogy in describing Bush, just know that this wife here would've thrown his ass out the door a long time ago without reservation!
The fact that the American people were lied to and deceived does not absolve them from blame. The lie was transparent, the logic nonexistent, the true facts available and easy to discover.
America failed because the American people failed. The American people failed because their self-righteousness and hubris made them easy saps for deception.
Lobo Gris -
"You don't need details to impeach. Bush stated in public that he violated the 1978 FISA Act..... No other proof, hearings or investigations are needed....."
Bush also stated in public (on the campaign trail in 2004) that he always complied with the FISA warrant requirement. Given the credibility of the speaker, which of George Bush's contradictory statements shall we elect to believe? This is a slender reed to lean upon to prove guilt on a high crime.
Bush, Gonzales and John Yoo dealt with the NSA scandal when it first broke in December 2004 by dumping 60 pages of legalism about the inherent war powers of the unitary executive branch into the public discussion, and the pundits and politicians fled from the issue like the plague. Arlen Spector's remedy was to get a secret ruling from the secret FISA court, which apparently declared Bush and NSA never did do anything unlawful, and institutional safeguards are now in place anyway to insure there will always be judicial oversight in the future over comparable wiretap operations.
Just this week, Bush's new national security poobah began pushing for Congress to water down the FISA domestic surveillance standards even further, a legislative move similar to the Military Commissions Act. Clearly Karl Rove senses that if he can goad Congress into granting immunity to torturers, there should be little problem finessing Congress to similarly immunize illegal wiretappers for crimes past and crimes present.
Also, don't expect the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals to unanimously side with Judge Anna Diggs Taylor's ruling in the ACLU test case. It's a wonderful District Court opinion, but don't forget who's got majority control of the top echelons of the federal court heirarcy nowadays.
I still say the best way to impeach Bush and Cheney is to repeal the AUMF authorizing the Iraq occupation outright, and amend the AUMF authorizing NATO's mission in Afghanistan to specifically clarify that it cannot be used as an excuse for invading or covertly toppling additional regimes abroad or for undermining civil liberties stateside.
Draw that line in the sand and dare Bush to cross. Of course Bush will. Then impeach him for abuse of the Constitution's war powers, like Nixon's invasion of Cambodia, tossing in torture and illegal domestic wiretapping for good measure.
But Congress still has to get its legal ducks in a row first as I view the landscape ahead.
I am tired of hearing what the American people "think" or "want". If this were so easy to know, why do marketers spend billions to study it?
Do you know what purpose is served by writing articles about what the American people will ever be willing to do? Defeatism is the purpose served (also elitism). Progressives can sit back and say to one another: "this proves how dumb people are or how reactionary they are or how they will never change". But they are us!
We can fairly well assume that Americans are upset with the President. Perhaps they will be willing to impeach him if they feel there is a real danger to their interests. If we feel this way, it can't hurt to keep trying to convince our fellow Americans why we feel this way. As long as there is enough of a danger, even the danger of setting a terrible precedent, it is never too late to consider impeachment, even on the last day a leader is in office.
The American people do favor impeachment and that is what we thought we were voting for when we elected the Democrats to a majority in Congress. Since they are owned by the same billionaires who own the GOP, that is not going to happen. American business believes impeachment and ending the war would be bad for their bank accounts.
The only way out is for the people to get the attention of the corporations. We need to all pledge to buy nothing but items essential for our survival until the people who own Congress get the message and allow it to impeach Bush and end the war. Stopping the massive flow of cash to these greedy fools is the only way to show them where the real power is. Voting is no longer useful for that purpose.
Clinton was impeached on a technicality. Bush & Co. ought to be impeached on a generality.
So far, I am not holding my breath when it comes to George Bush and his cabinet members being impeached. He will get away with it like he has gotten away with everything else in his life. Interesting how Americans objected to the former President lying about having an affair and was for his subsequent impeachment but several offenses Mr. Bush Jr. has aleady commited throughout the world, including subtle offenses against your own people. - yep that's ok? It would not even surprise me if most Americans find Mr. Bush's oratory skills charming. Let's compare the two:
Having sex outside of marriage? Bad!
Using Iraq as a scapegoat for a truly backward society's ills while destroying their culture? Good!
Plase help me understand why the latter is the lesser of two evils Americans? Enlighten me :-)
I am glad to see that this article mentioned that the majority of people in the United States were for invading Iraq at first. Most Americans indeed, at first, wanted revenge and a scapegoat with any nation - didn't matter - besides the real perpetrator. Sure many Americans have discovered their conscience, but too little too late. Of course, what bin Laden did on 9/11 was a slap on the wrist of the imperial giant compared to more than a century of abuse the United States Government has done throughout the world to impoverished nations - including warfare that most Americans have never experienced but is a daily reality to many nations in the world precisely because the United States nation is simply not nice. Sorry to burst your bubble Americans, but you are far from being saints and experts on positive morality.
For example, in general, Americans believed it was ok for their Government to destroy Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Grenada, El Salvador and Nicaragua just to name a few. What did these countries ever do to you Americans? Absolutely nothing right? Perhaps you are against their existence like you are against the Palestinians existing huh?
Follow the $$$$. MSM is supported by advertising (isn't it?). REFUSE TO BUY ANY ADVERTISED PRODUCTS. STOP BUYING! Let the advertisers know you won't be buying!
I'm sorry I couldn't even go through this article; it smacked of blaming us little guys whose faith in fairness has been euthanized by shenanigans at the election polls. Who can justify a person having to wait hours to vote? It is so outrageous that this situation should alone be enough to rile us into action. But Kerry let it pass... didn't he leave the country for a vacation? Didn't he turn tail and run? Gore didn't fight for his win, either. He graciously, in his gentlemanly way, let it go. Bottom line, I think the Republicans will fight tooth and nail and use every and all means to get what they want. They do not back off, they do not submit. Democrats just don't have the necessary viciousness in this "fight for survival." I just hate to use the word vicious, but it is what I am witnessing being displayed every day, day in and day out, on the right wing radio programs and tv programs. Viciousness without End.
(Also, a solution to the money dependency of the candidates would be to LIMIT TERMS. One six year term for president, two terms in the Senate. And END paid TV advertising for candidates. Equal time, no charge for a ride on the American Airwaves.)
Most Americans aren't stupid, they are ignorant and complacent, oh, and fat. Impeachment if nothing else would show the rest of the world we mignt not be a lost cause afterall.
"....the official 9/11 myth...has been used to justify imperial wars and increased militarism, thereby distracting attention from global apartheid and the ecological crisis...until it is exposed, getting our governments to focus wholeheartedly on the truly urgent issues of our time will be impossible." -David Ray Griffin
Yes, it's always about 9/11. Whenever "we the sheeple" get a little unruly, they begin shaking that 9/11 voodoo doll in our faces. It works every time. By the way, while we were sleeping, yet another draconian measure was signed and sealed:
NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
God bless us, everyone.
article did not mension torture. That is the main reason why I want Gonzo as well as Bush and Cheney impeached. I hold them responsible for Abu Ghraib which morphed out of Guantanamo. The one person in Congress who knows about torture is John McCain and he wants to fire Gonzo.
There are a lot of ordinary citizens who approve of torture and they don't see it that bad. Why they say that if the terrorists do it - so should we. Well why don't we stone women if we are so eager to immitate idiots?
We should have the standards of the Geneva Convention set up by Eisenhower- they were not all obeyed but we declared to be a nation of law, with Habeus Corpus, with no secret prisons, without rendition and snatching people off the streets in Italy, Canada and Germany- those countries do not like that. Show more rspect for other cultures including the Iraqis and Afghanis. But here again we never did that with our own indiginous people- so Bush is off the hook on all this.
We need to ratched up our sense of justice and fairness and we need to have a conversation what the Constitution actually means since all those officials are swearing to uphold it.
Bill from Saginaw May 22nd, 2007 3:24 pm
"How can you impeach Bush for violating the FISA statute that makes warrantless domestic wiretapping by NSA a felony, when all the necessary evidence to prove the violations are deeply, super-classified and withheld from Congress by the perpetrators?"
You don't need the details to impeach. Bush stated in public that he violated the 1978 FISA act and that alone is enough. In addition last year a Federal Judge ruled that Bush had violated the Fisa act and that by doing so had violated the 4th amendment to the Constitution in a lawsuit brought by the ACLU about the violations.
No other proof, hearings, or investigations are needed, only the will to do it by a wimp Democratic Congress that will not get my vote in 2008 if they don't impeach. And the Dems may be in more trouble than they think if they don't. The current percentages of registered voters break down as;
33% Democrat
25% Republican
42% Independent
I think people are pretty fed up with business as usual in fantasy land as indicated by the percentage of people that refuse to be associared with either party of the ruling duopoly, and there are enough independent voters to get some third party candidates elected this time around. In fact there are enough of us that we could probably throw out most if not all of the Dems and the Repubs if we stuck together and elected Greens and Libertarians to replace them.
Lobo Gris
Building leadership and empathy needed.
As Reich depicts in People In Trouble the Nazis were the only ones capable of filling the power vacuum at a critical moment; all the other Partys stood back and watched, with only slight armed resistance from Labor.
Pelosi and Reid appear to not want additional power, Kucinich and Gravel beckon but progressives too continue to shun additional power. If the Greens would back Kucinich - a person who espouses at least 98% of their platform and is one rung away from the national stage - they would not only have to support him but fill the positions needed to conduct power. Hopefully it will be today or tomorrow that they will gain the confidence to assume more power - the history of the American idea calls.
Recognition of human empathy would answer this call for Greens and others. The method is simplistic, it's application obviously complex or we would have done it.
After a G8 event in NYC in 2002 as activist returned to Detroit with a chant with lines that started with "Come together..." and "Stay together...", over a two week period "Stay together..." vanished.
In human development in the West the Art therapist has emerged. I just finished a workshop on Child'Space. A big component was making sure the family had at least one refrain from one nursery rhyme to be repeated over and over for both calming the baby, through awareness of self derived from the sound vibration to bones, and stimulation of the cognitive network.
Thus I suggest here to accept Kucinich as the spearhead of leadership and find your space in the spear shaft of leadership, then find a simple song to share that coalesces empathy in the likes of Patti Smith's "Garden of Consciousness" - into "One heart, one mind, one voice".
Then impeach the @##!!*ers and revel in leading humanity in declaring and living the American dream!
Impeach through boycott.
It is difficult to remember Bill Clinton's impeachment for oral sex and lying about oral sex under oath, and weigh that against lying to Congress to invade a country, quagmiring us in that country, killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of people and spending trillions of dollars - much of which has been wasted through corruption and incompetency. Gee whiz, but maybe we just need someone to volunteer to ...... Then Bush would be in REAL trouble?
And there is the firing of the Justice Department attornies. The real issue is using the Justice department for a morally bankrupt polical scam to disenfranchise Democrat voters. Nixon was impeached for a break in and wiretapping the Democrats. Using "caging lists" to revoke US citizens their right to vote is a smaller issue?
I don't understand the mass mentality to departmentalize "that was then and this is now" to allow Bush to go through 8 years in office, 6 of those years quagmired in Iraq based on lies.
Ronald White -
Thanks for setting me straight on the climate of Canada. I live in San Francisco bay area and it's too cold here for me, but tastes differ. I know a guy who moved to Seattle becaues it was too hot here. Of course with climate change Canada may be the new Hawaii.
I'm glad you like my suggestion for emigration to Cuba. Why the hell not? But just how many Americans could that tiny place accomodate? (And would we be welcome?) Wouldn't that be a slap in the face to the powers that be -- mass emigration to an embargoed country. Sanctions againt Cuba make utterly NO sense to me, none. Sometimes I think it's a kind of nostalgic memorial to the rabid and irrational hatred Kennedy had for it. We should all just shake off the ghost of Jack and say FU to the exiles.
Sorry, a bit off-topic.
PS.
Your typo was very interesting. I was trying to figure out the political ramification of draft dodging a revolution to a country that didn't exist. :-)
Old Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.
Well, we are, aren't we?
The beacon of liberty has gone out.
Divide and conquer is proving its worth as a strategy.
World fascism is on the march so there is really no place to hide. I am old enough now to say that for myself I have no real regrets, but I do have many regrets for all the children I know and love who will grow up (if they are lucky) without the prospect of a "better" future. Hell, it's just as likely that there will be no future at all on planet Earth.
Apparently it is ok with americans to send thousands of our young people to their deaths and to have thousands more injured for life. It is ok to destablize a country and have hundreds of thousands of their citizens killed and to have a massive refugee crisis. It doesn't even seem to matter that this war is spending us into bankruptcy. Even when 70% of the american people want out of this war, Bush appears to be stubbornly in control. Only radical efforts can get this radical man out of office before he destroys our country completely. One wonders if a military coup wouldn't be better than keeping him in office.
As someone who wasn't fooled and tried to do everything an ordinary American could to stop the shit before it happened, I understand the conjectured conclusions Mr. Kamiya makes. I've pondered long and hard why popular understanding and opinion didn't reflect what seemed so obvious to me from the start.
Maybe the answer is, that what the author takes as a reality was only the manufactured illusion (by the media and our government) that we collectively favored the launching of a war of retribution.
One of the great talents of this administration is to keep events moving so quickly that opposition or dissent does not have time to solidify. Major deviations to longstanding American policy and position are planned well in advance and then announced suddenly and put into action promptly, and become legitimate by their very willed existance.
Gary, thanks for a piece of writing that drills very deep into the politics of the psyche.
To be human is to be vulnerable to self-deception - sometimes of monstrous proportions.
Speaking of peaches: if accurate, the book Crossing the Rubicon by Ruppert provides info that for now is way too hot to handle. Then again, who knows how this drama will turn out!
I'm republishing this from another thread. "The fact that the ignorant population of the United States allowed a piece of human garbage like George W. Bush to rule the country with impunity for two terms is indicative of the real predicament we're in. Bush is just a metaphor, a symbol of the underlying greed, racism, religious fanaticism, and outright fascism that all coelesced in this worthy freak. This burbling swamp is what propelled him into office and, when he's gone, it will still be there."
"Bill from Saginaw" is exactly correct. But for the war authorization and MCA to be repealed, first both the current House and Senate leadership would have to be replaced.
After that, you'd still need a Congress with integrity and discipline enough to act upon their sworn DUTY, not act upon mere political convenience. Only then can the impeachment of the Bush White House proceed with any hope of success.
The media has proposed as many lies as they dare, yet will continue to do so under what they try to pass as "news". Stop drinking koolaid.
What would happen if the media seriously spread the word that G.W. Bush was really Osama bin Laden with a face graft? Would that be an outrage? I mean what would it take to impeach this guy? Everyone wants to know.
"Yet the public's dislike of Bush has not translated into any real move to get rid of him. The impeach-Bush movement has not really taken off yet, and barring some unforeseen dramatic development, it seems unlikely that it will."
What is the signal that public dislike takes off? Discussion of impeachment on the major commercial networks?
There was no public groundswell for the Clinton impeachment, yet it took off and was endlessly featured by the major media. Because of the "vast right wing conspiracy". "They" control the commercial media. Some of the largest anti-war demonstrations in history took place prior to Bush's invasion, here and abroad. We saw no sweeping aerial views, commentators did not marvel at the outpouring of public dissatisfaction and the representatives from all walks of life for fear this would fuel a mass exodus away from the favored policy.
Public dissatisfaction was ignored, because there was no effective leadership to ring bells in Washington. And more importantly, there was no one challenging the Big Lie. Not even the demonstrators could effectively dismiss the rationale for war. They were weak, self-indulgent, unwilling to do that hard and necessary thing. They could dislike the war, but could not get around the Big Lie.
The Big Lie stands. It remains the fundamental justification for everything Bush says and does, without exaggeration. This man is a very effective simpleton because he stays on message. His script is simple and compelling. His world is a starkly Manichean black & white. In such confusing and fearful times, simplicity is appealing.
There is nothing sacrosanct about war, but there is an undeviating public devotion to self-defense. The Big Lie justifies self-defense and the subversion of the Constitution, which precedent has shown is a peace-time document.
Bush will not be impeached because no "leader" has the courage to tell the truth. Given the corporate support for war, "leaders" ( read "weasels") who go against policy risk their own funding. And one must also consider a darker motivation that is the direct result of the illegal surveillance orchestrated by General Michael "there-is-no-probable-cause-in-the-4th-Amendment" Hayden when he was NSA chief ( now DCI )- the vulnerability of each and every politician to blackmail. This was the source of Hoover's power and it has a great deal to do with the reluctance of Congress to directly confront BushCo. Bush is not siimply a politician, he is part of a well organized "family". If you're going to go against this family, you'd better be squeeky clean and very very careful.
There's nothing mystical about the reluctance to impeach Bush. Gary Kamiya is just muddying the waters. The power Bush represents is formidable and that power does not reside strictly in the ballot box. He's got some bad actors for friends. Clinton had no such friends except insofar as he could borrow them from BushCo.
The Big Lie stands. Bush achieved power in 2000 through a very skillfully executed coup d'etat, thanks to his pals on the Supreme Court. That got him into the Oval Office. 911 provided him with the rationale to consolidate his power and begin to execute his policy of war and the subversion of the Constitution.
He continues to implement those policies which together make up the framework for a police state to be implemented during the next national emergency. These national emergencies can be made to happen, just like people can be made to have accidents and heart attacks.
Of all the lies Bush has represented, which is the biggest, which is the Big Lie? Expose that lie and the whole House of Bush comes crashing down, like the WTC towers.
As other posters have said, this Congress has a duty to impeach. On the grounds of treason, ultimately.
We are living in a dangerous political Disneyland friends. This is the new world of Never Before. History is no guide. If we lack an imagination for evil and have no burning passion for good, we are lost.
"But he's not home free yet. The culture of spin is also the culture of spectacle, and a sudden, theatrical event — a lurid accusation made by a former official, a colorful revelation of a very specific and memorable Bush lie — could start the scandal machine going full speed."
The number one lesson learned by Cheney about the Vietnam war was to control the media.
We need pictures of activated depleted uranium babies, cluster bombed children, mutilated soldiers as a back drop to the subsidizing of Bechtel, Archer Daniels Midland, Halliburton (now in Dubia!) to bust the Soldiers' and families of Soldiers' belief, and the tipping point of US Citizens, that this massacre of avarice and idolatry is in the name of Iraqi freedom.
For those seeking emigration to Canada: There is of course one down side, the ambient temperature. How about "fleeing" to Mexico instead? Or better yet, Cuba. If you think I'm being sarcastic, ask yourself why.
This is not being argumentative but the ambient temperature of Vancouver,BC,Canada is the same as Seattle WA,Portland OR and a little warmer than Portland MA
The summers in southern Ontario are hot and humid but much the same as NYC and much less so than New Orleans MI.
All this is not for boasting but just stating facts. In 1772,there were approximately fifty thousand American deserters and dodgers who fled to Canada for similar reasons submitted by your fellow responders , generally the military draught and the impending rise of empire.
All is not utopia up here but socialism and all of its manifestations , both warts and wreaths is still legal but what is more important , viable .
By all means , I would love to see an immigration of progressives if only to weaken the influence of our own resident-neo-cons.
With your last sentence,it's definitely not sarcasm ; it's brilliant ; besides being practical. In America you have a dictatorship with lip-service to democracy .In Cuba they have a dictatorship without a pretense of democracy. Better the enemy you know than the one you don't.Concerning the differences in health care and education watch and listen to " Sicko " or " The Power of Community ",both documentery films made by red-blooded Americans.Why am I telling a progressive audience the obvious ?
I can't think of a more hubris-deflating nose-tweak to every Congress,White House,State Dept.since Eisenhauer than the immigration of thousands of non-felon,socialist, American citizens to Cuba. What a cap-feather for Fidel and the Revelucion . It would make a memorable 82nd,83rd...birthday present.
Sorry guys : Cardinal Rule is Proof-read before submitting.
1972 NOT 1772.
MSNBC is conducting a live vote, asking whether Bush should be impeached - 469661 responses so far, and 88% say yes. Get out there and vote! :)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
Correction, Karlof1 -- this is not "blaming the victim"; this is "making people responsible for their choices."
I must also say this. If we remember what it was like 4 years ago. This country was damn terrifying! Nazi Germany. The ugly American calling you a traitor and a terrorist supporter.
The tide has turned. I do not know one person who disagreed with me then who still does. Had three major ones in the last month tell me that they had no idea and that I was right. Now if we can just get our elected representatives to actually represent us.
If the people will lead.... Hell, we are having to forcefully drag them along!
Thanks feduphoosier
I jumped right on the Larry King Question Wagon.
I agree with some things in the article, more so with the posts though.
I am so grateful for this forum. At march up to and the onset of the war my head almost exploded!
The average person today is powerless to effect change. Most of us can barely earn a living wage, and some of us have difficulty even if we purchased an expensive education. We vote, but our vote is meaningless. The information and military power in the hands of the State are now so powerful, any form of resistance can be stifled almost immediately and anyone who participates is economically ostricized.
I agree with many of the points in the article as well as the posts. However, I think there is another factor beside the desire for vengence which over took many people in the wake of 9/11, a type of cultural imperialism. Many people in this country do not really consider people from other nations and cultures to merit consideration as fellow human beings. Even now the vast majority seem be mainly concerned with the losses to our country of soldiers and resources but have almost no concern for the welfare of the Iraqi people, (present company accepted). The fact that we destroyed an ancient civilization, that 100s of thousands have died and been injured, that millions are now refugees, that the environment is ruined, that we have created chaos and factionalism and have supported taliban like women haters, and are planning on stealing all their oil profits, etc, etc. none of this seems to matter much to the majority of Americans. I don't believe the American people are stupid, but I think they are in massive denial. Now, there is even talk of doing the same thing in Iran, by Democrats as well as Republicans. Where is the outrage other than among progressives? If any nation deserved our anger after 9/11 it was Saudi Arabia from which most of the terriorist came and who have been funding radically militant Islamic groups and schools. Yet, they were ignored by the most of media and Bush and Co, for one reason, oil. I think Bill from Saginaw has the right idea. We need to get back to basics like the reinstatement of habeas corpus and we need publically funded elections and we need to monitor our elections like a hawk. There was massive fraud in the past two elections, mostly against voters of color, see Armed Madhouse by Gary Palast. He also explains the underlying reasons of how and why we got into Iraq. We need to support any real alternative media, like this site Democracy Now, which is on cable as well as internet, net neutrality, and Markfiore.com for a black humor look at our insane world. Yes, you can run off to Canada or Lower Slobovia but unless we oppose the Corpratocracy which is global, our rights, lives and property will be under constant threat. If you don't believe me, check out the recent Canadian Supreme court ruling in favor of Monsonto and against the farmers of Canada. The power of corporations, must be reined in, but since they control most of our elected officials, worldwide, it is very difficult to get laws past to make them accountable. Haliburton is the perfect example, first they rip-off the American and Iraqi people for billions and now they move to Dubai to avoid any sort of prosecution for their crimes. One thing is certain, we must continue to work for a more just world, in what ever way we feel most effective, whether that is working for Amnesty, EarthSave or just trying to educate our friends and family who are still in the denial stage.
Dave Lindorff May 22nd, 2007 12:22 pm
Thank you, Dave. Gary's article explains away the issue, and it doesn't work.
Your book actually makes the case for impeachment, and that's what we need.
http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/
Thanks again.
Congratulations Gary, what a great article!!!
Alas, from the many and predictable responses ( A- the angry rejectionist,B- the dreamer ..."...but we must keep impeachment alive", C- I'm moving etc.) I can see I'm in a minority in seeing value in this article's perspective. I think that the constitutional process requires a commitment to the 'rational principle' which should consist in A) accepting the reality of the 'world we encounter' while not being trapped in the 'world we want' and B) being willing to evaluate our actions and reactions as if we were a third party, like a 'martian'(see Noam Chomsky). I think this article does both in a timely way. Too many critics of the president are forgetful that he did win a democratic election in which a certain segment of OUR fellow Americans were swayed to vote for him and, as this article so delicately points out, he did, in effect, simply do what many (of OUR fellow) Americans wanted him to, which was enact revenge on...whoever. I think that coming to terms with the darker side of OUR collective 'Americaness' is a healthy step towards resolving pickle we're in (a prez that america disapproves of and noone willing to do anything about it).
I especially like how this article ends. It reminds of what I've felt is Achilles heal of the whole wonderful Rovian universe which I call the McCarthy moment when Joseph Welch shamed Senator Joe on live TV to raucus applause. It's clear to me that the 'spectacle' of such an event can steer the ship of our public debate but that it is better for us all to revive the rational principle upon which OUR amazing nation was founded.
Check your facts there, Mr. Salon writer. The majority of Americans were against Bush in 2000, remember? When Gore won the popular vote? Leading up to 9/11, his poll numbers were at record lows. Again, most Americans still against Bush. 2004: clear evidence of vote tampering and other dirty tricks (for which the indictments and convictions keep coming) reveal most Americans voted, or would have if they could have, voted against Bush, whose total support never rose above 31 percent of registered voters. Ever. 2006: nuff said.
The real reason Bush will not be impeached, nor thwarted in any of his attempts to create a "unitary" executive (the Czar Czar?) is because the Dems cannot wait to yield and expand the illegal power and authority they bestowed upon him. Think Hillary isn't salivating at the chance to read GOP emails and listen in on their phone calls to hookers and underage pages and meth dealers and Swift Boaters and FOX and weapons contractors and the other Abramoffs? Oh, right, and all those damn "sleeper cells" we can't seem to locate after 6 years.
No.
Word has it that Cheney and Wolfowitz made a few phone calls to her uuuuuuuuuhh prostitution, oh, excuse me "escort service."
Hey, what if we somehow were able to get the "D.C. Madam" to release those names?
Hey -
I just received an email alert from CNN that Al Gore will be on Larry King tonight (imagine that.) The email asked viewers to send in questions for the Goracle. I immediately wrote and asked how the average American citizen can get Congress to seriously consider impeachment.
Feel free to pile on... maybe Larry will even read one of them.
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.html
Dick Cheney is the best insurance Dubya EVER bought. Nothing, legal or illegal, will disturb King George's reign as long as VP Cheney is in the wings.
Reasons are simple: (1) Greed (2) Addiction to "I wanna," (3) Addiction to luxurious living, and to h___ with the rest of the world.
For those seeking emigration to Canada: There is of course one down side, the ambient temperature. How about "fleeing" to Mexico instead? Or better yet, Cuba. If you think I'm being sarcastic, ask yourself why.
realitychecker was right: the majority of folks in the US ARE stupid.
The smart ones, like this poster, saw the morass of stupidity and meanness and just up and left.
Best decision I ever made!
"It's simple really. The reason Bush hasn't been impeached is that the American people are stupid. And I mean really, really dumb. Even the smart ones…"
Actually... most of them are just really, really BUSY. Seriously. I can't even get my own family and friends to answer emails now. "I'm too busy!" Same answer when I ask if they've seen the news lately. I find myself catching them up, briefly (everything has to be done in a sound bite now) over the phone.
It seems most of the people - that I know anyway - are now racing around trying to catch up with their lives. Apparently it is requiring more and more work hours, and often second jobs to pay for utilities, medical bills, not to mention the time they now spend running their kids from this sporting event to that club... this is our real 'prison.'
My guess is that when most Americans finally get a few minutes to relax, they honestly don't want to know how bad things are. They're too tired to deal with it.
Not sure what we're going to do about this. People aren't going to get angry if they don't find out the truth - and they won't find out the truth these days without really digging for it...
"It's simple really. The reason Bush hasn't been impeached is that the American people are stupid. And I mean really, really dumb. Even the smart ones…"
Not true. The majority of the American people are not stupid at all. The majority of the American people have been removed from the political equation. The majority did not vote for Bush in 2000. Gore won the popular vote and had there been a fair recount, he would have won the electoral college as well. Bush stole the election in 2004 as well, as evidenced by the chicanary of Diebold and the Ohio election board.
People have been screaming to Impeach Bush for years, and the media ignores them.
Tell me how you can possibly deduce that the majority of the American people are simply "stupid?"
It's simple really. The reason Bush hasn't been impeached is that the American people are stupid. And I mean really, really dumb. Even the smart ones.....
For those who wish to emigrate to Canada:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html
Anyone who knows a soldier in uniform, you should encourage them to flee to Canada. They will not be sent back.
http://cfsc.quaker.ca/pages/documents/USsoldiers-gen-rev.pdf
This is because they cannot exorcise the still-mainstream view that Bush's lies were justifiable and even noble...
i think it is more like fear that the lies may not have been justifiable. fear, that if they are wrong on that, they could be wrong on a lot of other stuff..............good article in many places.
Gary Kamiya is on target with his two major explanations why, public opinion and recent American history notwithstanding, George Bush is not in serious danger of immediate impeachment: the Democratic beltway brain trust sees Bush and the GOP hanging themselves with the Iraq debacle, so the Dems don't want to run the partisan risk of impeaching a Commander in Chief while combat troops are in harms way; and because the shock & awe invasion had immense grassroots popular support at the time it took place, too many people are going to have to do too much soul searching about primal American bloodlust to impeach the sheriff for the sins of the possee.
Yet Kamiya and the prior blog commentators all miss what I still insist is the third major reason impeachment is an unlikely remedy.
As a straightforward legal matter, how can you call it a "high crime or misdemeanor" to invade Iraq when a majority of both chambers of the national parliament expressly authorized Bush to launch this war of choice, and have repeatedly funded the occupation?
How can you impeach Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, and others for violating the anti-torture statute and the international treaties outlawing torture, when Congress in the fall of 2006 expressly granted all the torturers immunity (retroactive and prospective) from civil and criminal liability in the Military Commissions Act?
How can you impeach Bush for violating the FISA statute that makes warrantless domestic wiretapping by NSA a felony, when all the necessary evidence to prove the violations are deeply, super-classified and withheld from Congress by the perpetrators?
If you want to get serious about impeaching George Bush and Dick Cheney, the first order of business is to repeal the 2002 Iraq War Authorization for Use of Military Force resolution. Then repeal the immunity provisions of the Military Commissions Act. Then force complete, public declassification of the full factual record of NSA's unlawful domestic electonic surveillance activities from 2001-2007.
First things first.
Just because the GOP ignored the "high crimes or misdemeanor" requirement, and Ken Starr pretended that lying about fellatio was a felony of Constitutional dimension when Bill Clinton was in the White House, is no excuse for the Democratic Party to do the same.
You can't ignore the letter of the law in the name of restoring the rule of law.
Bill from Saginaw
AUM33 I agree everyone should call Nancy Pelosi or any REP. of their choice. I just called the 1 800 614 2803 about half hour ago and the operator connected me to Pelosi's voice mail. Bush/Cheney/Gonzales are criminal's and must be impeached. I don't agree with this writer that we are afraid to look at ourselves. I can think for myself and I know that these traitors should be run out of office.George Bush is so dumb and stupid he couldn't run a hotdog stand. That dude is a nut case
FleetoCanadaNow -
Do you have any resources that could help those of us that may want to emigrate to Canada?
Thanks!
FleetoCanadaNow,
Remember the German Anschluss with Austria in 1938? If the governments of Mexico, USA and Canada proclaim a North American Union, Canada too will cease to exist. All sanctuaries are temporary. After all, Bush must have his "Armageddon"!
bbill -
www.freewayblogger.com
Get started TODAY!!!!
I agree that the MSM is a major factor in blocking impeachment. So how to we fight the MSM? What can us ordinary citizens do that will effect change in the MSM?
This is the best article I have read on this site to date!
Congratulations, Gary Kimiya, for putting the blame where it belongs: shared between the Bush administration and the folks in the US who have acted out their mean-spirited xenophobic impulses through it!
I left the US 14 years ago--having had enough of the hypocrisy and just plain meanness of most of its people.
The US deserves to go the way of all other Evil Empires. I am a US citizen, but I will dance on its tombstone!
jmjsgoblue,
That's exactly how I feel, and I am looking to move to Spain. Regarding this article, I think most people for different reasons want to remove this Administration, but the truth is, as another poster said, capitalism has swallowed democracy.
FleetoCanadaNow,
I would go tomorrow, but my meager resources cannot be transferred, so I would be homeless in a month. But even so, I may yet...it's a terrible dilemma. I love the struggling democracy we once were, but now? Many Leftwing Germans had similar feelings in the 1930s as the Weimar Republic stumbled and bumbled its way into Naziism.
entelechy--you need to spend some time in Canada. Even the current "Conservative" government would be considered "pinko" by American standards.
I fear that the Bush White House criminality may yet escalate. If we Americans have become like WWII Germans following orders, George and his neo-conservative cohorts may resort to leading us into the next world war, rather than face the ultimate public humiliation of impeachment. During the 1930's, republicans thought H was a great man and his cause a profitable investment. At what point did they know their support would lead to WWII? And how was it that republican businessmen who supported H, including Sam and Prescott Bush, were never castigated for their disastrous machinations? Oh, I forgot - Prescott became director of the armed forces USO and was a popular guy at the dances and parties.
jmjsgoblue, FleetoCanadaNow et al,
Liberal Canadian traditions notwithstanding, Canada is part of the same global shift to corporate fascism. There is no sanctuary - unless the conspiracy is stopped at its source, the White House. Time has run out. Impeach now or never.
Face it, the Democrats are waiting for Bush to be caught with a dead girl or a live boy.
jmjsgoblue...there is absolutely no reason to stay in the US. I emigrated to Canada when Bush was elected. I now have a good job, I am a union member, I have health care for myself and my family, the air and water is clean, politics is still easy to understand and be a part of, and I am far freer to express my point of view than I ever was in the US.
Above all, I found something in Canada that I never found in the US...happyness.
Maybe the only way we can be heard is to get the message out by freeway blogging.
www.freewayblogger.com
Make your IMPEACH signs and put them everywhere you can!
I agree with this article and with much of the post commentary. I frequently write my representatives, Nancy Pelosi and other leading Democrats about all these issues, only to receive the standard boiler plate e-mail response. I would love to stay and fight for this democracy but sadly, I feel my only recourse is a strategic retreat to Canada, though it may not be far enough away.
With the constitution being obliterated by a fascist, corporate controlled, theocratic government and complicit media, with an economy driven by a militaristic machine, with a lack of health care for a quarter of its inhabitants, with one quarter of the worlds debt, with millions of its citizens more concerned about who is winning American Idol than what rights the Bush Administration is destroying, with too many people who do not believe in evolution, give me a good reason to stay? Cheap plastic stuff and Nascar is not enough!
One major reason for impeachment which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere, is that Bush will be able to pardon whomever he likes at the end of his term, thus frustrating any attempts at justice. I can easily imagine him thinking, "As of today, only 608 days and we'll all be scott free." And, as in the case of the Iran Contra affair, the folks who were pardoned and who were part of the scandals of this administration will rear their ugly heads further down the line.
If Bush and Cheney cannot be impeached, what we once thought of as our United States of America is finished, defunct, kaput, because that is their intention, to utterly destroy this once democratic republic forever, replaced by an agglomeration of multi-national corporations ruling a regionally conflicted "North American Union" and trying to dominate the World, by conquest, corruption, merger or whatever. What will be left is a people completely enslaved and dying in a poisoned eco-system, together with their global neighbors.
Bush isn't being impeached because his party still controls the direction of our government. And his party is not interested in what Americans think or want. His party is in bed with American and International corporations to continue building an empire. Not even an empire for Americans, but an empire for the rich. Long ago people stopped controlling the direction of our government. The founding fathers gave the Constitution to the people of America to build a country of laws that would provide, eventually, everyone a fair chance at having their voice heard. The Constitution was a tool people could use to help shape their lives. But the Constitution has been bought by corporate America. Now they use it to expand their personal business empires all over the world, and at the expense of the world. Impeaching Bush won't stop any of this. We have to change the system that allows corporate needs to be met before human needs.
Hoa binh
I have to agree with FleetoCanadaNow. The MSM dare not report that the obvious reason Bush did not seek judicial approval is that the courts would not approve because he was spying on political enemies. And we all know it would have been Karl Rove's idea, and anyone who thinks Karl Rove would not do such a thing is so naive they really should not be participating in political discussions.
And I also think it is important that the corporate media signed up with the Republican agenda long ago, regardless of the social issues (the Republicans only pay lip service to those and throw in a few symbolic acts to keep the useful idiots of the religious right happy). So any dirt on Dems that the Bush gang has would not only get a great deal of play in the far right echo chamber but the corporate media would focus on it, as with Monica, with the goal of helping the Republicans regain total control of the federal government in the elections of 2008.
And the Bush gang knows it would be very risky to reveal the information as many people would suspect the source and accusations would fly, and so the Bush gang would only do so as a last resort, and the Democrats understand this.
I don't agree with all of the author's suppositions, but it's an excellent article nevertheless. I am made in the 'whistle-blower' image, and will always believe that everyone in this administration should be unceremoniously thrown out on their ears. I'm not likely to get my wish, though.
For me, Gary Kamiya's arguments at least partially assuage the outrage I feel over America's failure to insist on the removal of Bush et al. from the political scene, forever.
impeach cheney; install bush sr. as vp to keep an eye on junior. poetic justice.
Go ahead and call Pelosi if you enjoy wasting your breath. My guess is that if you can't hand her a bribe ... uh contribution of at least $20k, she ain't listening. No surprise at all that her office is hanging up on people who aren't bearing such uuuuuhh contributions.
Better would be to find a Green Party candidate in SF to run against her. Lets see if we can siphon enough votes from her to kick her sorry rear out of office. Don't care who wins. Lets just make sure Pelosi loses.
Hang that trophy on our wall, and then I'd bet the next speaker might be willing to listen to you.
BTW, MoveOn isn't ignored by the Democrats. MoveOn is a part of the Democratic political machine. However, what is true is that MoveOn has no more interest in listening to opinions that are different from leadership of the Democratic party than the leadership itself. MoveOn is foresquare behind whatever Pelosi and Reid want to do in Iraq. They'll do some phony poll where the only choices are do you support Pelosi or Bush.
The mistake is if anyone who supports change is supporting MoveOn. Don't give them your money. Don't give them your time and your energy. They won't listen to you, and they don't care what you think.
Bush isn't being impeached for only one reason. He is now being propped up and kept in office by the Democrats. The Democrats have the legal arguments to impeach him at hand. The fact that there's not even a hearing being held shows the support that the Dem leaders are giving to Bush at this time.
Face it, the Dem leaders are the once keeping Bush and Cheney in office right now. No one else.
And frankly, I find the position of the Democratic Party on this truly disgusting. What has disgusted me about the Republican party as a hole in the last 7 years has been the fact that their loyalty to the country is of less importance to them than their loyalty to Bush and their party.
Now the Democrats are saying exactly the same thing. They know what is legally required. They know their role under the Constitution. They know the oath they took to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. They know exactly what this would require. The impeachment of Bush and Cheney. The legal case is there, certainly enough for hearings and investigation. Just last week the person who was acting Attorney General, the supreme law enforcement officer in the United States, testified before a Senate committee that Bush acted illegally. That alone should trigger impeachment hearings. On top of all the other good cases.
But, the message from the Democratic Party is that their estimate of what's best for them in the next election is more important than what's good for the country. What's good for the Democrats in the next election is more important than performing their constitutional duty. And to me, that's completely disgusting.
I can't imagine walking into a voting booth and voting for a party that openly says that what's good for them is more important than what's good for the country. Not a chance. As a citizen who loves his country, I can't think of anything more guaranteed to cause harm to my country. When I hear the Democrats constantly say that what's important is their chances in the next election, to me they are saying that they are completely unfit to lead this country and must all be removed from office as soon as possible.
Kamiya makes some good points. Yet he misses his own most important point: the media's unwillingness to speak the truth, then and now. This is the crux of the matter.
When an informed electorate has the truth at their disposal, their anger at being lied to will help the vast majority to dig up the courage to admit they are wrong and move forward with justice and the work of saving our constitutional form of government. Which in this case means Impeachment.
Maybe, if the media hadn't been so eager to cheer on the lies, we might have had a true national debate about blind revenge versus finding Bin Laden BEFORE the war. If the truth, even labeled as "the opposing view," had been diligently reported in the mainstream media, the American people might not have been so easily fooled. Maybe that revenge psyche would have been bent on the true perpetrators of 9/11.
The fact is, we are where we are. Yet simply letting the past go will not suffice. The flood gates are open. This president has grabbed more power than than our form of government can withstand. He has done more damage than our form of government can weather. If we don't stand up to him, if we don't re-assert the rule of law, then we condemn our children to live in a lawless corporatocracy where only the rich are secure. The United States of America will be well and truly dead.
For the future of our democracy, Bush and Cheney must be impeached. Don't call your Congressmen. They are straw men who bend with the prevailing winds. And the wind always blows from the newsroom. Call the press. Insist on the truth.
I'm ranted out. I just blew a fuse over this in my blog, all I have left to say is that this is the most pathetic excuse for lack of political action that I've ever heard.
The news media won't cover the grass roots impeachment movement - hell, the entire state of Maine is trying to impeach the Bush administration and many cities are trying to do the same. They eventually run into a veritable wall of cowardly politicians who answer to corporate lobbyists rather than the will of the people.
We sent a Democratic majority to the House, and even the Senate - no one predicted the Democrats would have a chance with the Senate. And the Democrats - who hold the purse strings - just caved and gave Bush all his money for Iraq, no strings attached.
Betrayed again... and I suppose this is our fault too?
When we march, the media won't cover it. When we call our representatives, we are ignored (Pelosi's office actually hung up on me the last time I called and asked just what it would take to put impeachment ON the table.) When we band together in large groups like Moveon.Org or Truemajority... STILL we are ignored. Marginalized. The corporations foot the bill in Washington. Nobody gives a damn what we want, until we can pay more for our representation than they do. Capitalism has now eaten democracy: swallowed it whole. They just have to do a little more tweaking of those Diebold machines, and the fat lady will sing.
How dare this guy make sweeping statements about what the "American people think" and how "the American people judge" this presidency? LIKE ANYONE IS LISTENING.
"The culture of spin is also the culture of spectacle, and a sudden, theatrical event — a lurid accusation made by a former official, a colorful revelation of a very specific and memorable Bush lie — could start the scandal machine going full speed."
What? How many lurid accusations, revelations and testimonies before Congress do they need? NO... the reason for no impeachment is the Corporate Media.
The 'outrage machine' has chosen that they should get outraged about Michael Moore trying to get medical care for 9/11 workers in Cuba, but they shouldn't get outraged that Bush authorized illegal wiretapping, after his Administration couldn't get a sick, disoriented Attorney General to sign off on it in the hospital.
They don't need to get outraged about billions of dollars "missing" in Iraq. They don't need to get outraged about torture, voter-fraud or judging progress in Iraq by passage of a 'Hydrocarbon law' that basically steals Iraqi oil. Corporate media chooses their spectacles.
They don't want Bush impeached, and until a majority of Americans reject the framing of the impeachment case by the corporate media, most people will continue to think it's infeasible and a fringe issue. The "strange disconnect in the way Americans think about George W. Bush" was manufactured by MSM, and the author of the article blames the people instead. He says we're to blame, that we are a nation of war-mongers that support spending all our taxes on an illegal war to get revenge... what a bunch of BS.
The real reason Bush has not been impeached should be obvious to all those that can put two unrelated issues together (the issue of illegal wiretaps and the lack of political accountability).
For the first issue, many have asked, why would Bush not simply go through the FISA courts to obtain wiretaps? The only reason that he would need to avoid the FISA court altogether is if he is wiretapping people for purely political reasons. In fact, Republicans learned much from Watergate. Why would they repeat Nixon's amateurish methods in looking for dirt on their political opponents by burglaries of Democratic headquarters? As President, why not simply use most sophisticated electronic equipment available to him? Of course, Bush used the NSA's electronic eavesdropping methods to listen in on key Democratic congressmen and Senators. Now THAT would be a reason not to go to the FISA court.
And, this links us to why Bush has not been impeached when 75% of the American public are in support of it. Impeachment has not happened--and will not happen--not because of something deep within the American psyche--but, because Bush has used illegal wiretaps to dig up some serious dirt on the people who would have to support the opening of impeachment proceedings.
Now the only Achillies Heal in the plan is AG Gonzales. As long as he is still running the Justice Department, Bush is safe. That's why Gonzales won't resign for any reason. If Gonzales goes it will be because of Republican efforts, not Democratic ones. If he does go, then more questions will be raised that may lead to a call for Bush's impeachment. If those calls do come, they will come from the efforts of key Republicans like Chuck Hagel, who have not been targets of wiretapping, who want to save their party. But, woah be it to those who may try--if they do watch for some mysterious deaths to start occuring.