Priests Claim Torture; Arizona Army Post Says No
TUCSON, Ariz. - A pair of priests arrested in November for trespassing on Fort Huachuca are determined to make a court case out of what they contend is torture being taught at the Southern Arizona Army post.
"We're going to put torture on trial," the Rev. Louis Vitale and the Rev. Steve Kelly told nearly 80 people Friday in the sanctuary of the Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson.
The two believe the post and its intelligence leadership prepare soldiers to become torturers in a misguided attempt to extract information.
But Maj. Gen. Barbara Fast, the senior officer on the post and the one who leads the Intelligence Center, denies torture techniques are part of any instruction.
The training on the post is "€œcompletely consistent with applicable law and policy, to include Sen. (John) McCain's s amendment, the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005," Fast said.
The act, which the Arizona Republican specifically ensured forbade torture, "requires that no person in the custody or under the effective control of the Department of Defense facility shall be subject to any treatment or technique of interrogation not authorized by and listed in the U.S. Army Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation," she said.
In September, the Army released another field manual specifically geared to human intelligence collector operations, which also directed "that no person in the custody of or under the control of DOD (Department of Defense), regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment, in accordance with and as defined in U.S. law."
But Kelly said what is happening inside the wire at the detention center in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, the main detainee complex for suspected terrorists, is taught on the fort and includes using physical and mental torture techniques.
Vitale said a female rancher who said she has property that abuts the fort "knows torture is taught." He did not name the woman, who purportedly spoke at a support meeting for the two priests last week.
The two men - Vitale a Franciscan and Kelly a Jesuit - are seeking moral, financial and physical support before, during and after their trial, which is tentatively scheduled in the Tucson federal courthouse on June 6.
On Nov. 19, the priests performed an act of civil disobedience by walking on to the fort through the post's Main Gate area as part of what has become an annual protest of intelligence training. The event is linked to a larger protest that takes place at Fort Benning, Ga., every year. The School of the Americas is located at Fort Benning, and the school has been accused of teaching torture methods to Latin American militaries.
The two men, both who have served time in federal lockups for anti-military protests, wanted to deliver a letter to Fast and be allowed to speak to students at the Intelligence Center.
As they did in November, they wore priestly garments of their orders on Friday - Vitale in a brown cassock of Franciscan friars and Kelly in black shoes, pants and shirt, with a small white collar at his neck.
As they walked across the street on to fort property in November, they were initially approached by a man in civilian clothes who did not identify himself and they continued on, they said.
Kelly said as more people from the fort approached at one point, he followed Vitale, who knelt and began to pray.
The pair were eventually taken to a facility on post and charged with trespassing. They were released on their own recognizance that day.
Vitale and Kelly were the first ever to be arrested for trespassing on the post as part of the annual protest near the Main Gate.
As the two men went toward the fort, supporters yelled out encouragement while members of a counterprotest shouted disparaging comments.
In 2001, the name of the Fort Benning school was changed to Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation. However, the priests still call the facility School of the Americas, something they constantly did at the Tucson meeting, because they do not believe there has been any change in the instructional course at the Georgia installation.
Appearance seen differently
On Feb. 13, the priests and their supporters once again went to the fort for what the priests said was an arraignment, but post officials said was an initial appearance.
Kelly said they were taken to a building where the post courtroom is located and eventually were escorted - down into the basement - into a room with a flickering light.
Post spokeswoman Tanja Linton said the initial hearing was "held in a well-lit room in Greely Hall" because there were so many supporters with the priests they could not fit in the courtroom.
The hearing was held in a nearby conference room, she added.
Vitale's impression of the building was that it is “the intelligence headquarters for the United States and the spy headquarters for the world, where every phone call made by a soldier to a family member is monitored.
Linton said that description is not true. Greely Hall is primarily used for the headquarters of the Army Network Enterprise Technology Command, along with other organizations, she said. NETCOM is the Army's premier communications organization.
Kelly said many people will not accept the fact the U.S. government, through its military and other agencies, practices torture. And, he said, the conflict of whether torture is right is something American citizens have a hard time grasping.
A Christian congregation was polled, "and the majority said torture is acceptable," Kelly said.
The problem is the government is convincing people that in today's world any way to extract information is allowable, he said.
Vitale said his own sister, whom he described as a gentle person who would not hurt a flea, also believes in some cases of excessive force, such as torture, can be used.
According to a recent Pentagon report, a large number of soldiers and Marines serving in Iraq also believe torture should be used if it will save the lives of their buddies.
Soldier rallying point
Both men used the death of Alyssa Peterson, an Army specialist from Flagstaff, as a rally point for their anti-torture crusade. Her suicide was the act of a woman who could not bear the responsibility of being an interrogator in Iraq, they said.
"The Army put her in a program that taught her how to torture," Vitale said.
According to a March 11 article in The Arizona Daily Sun in Flagstaff, the 27-year-old Peterson killed herself in Tel Afar, Iraq, on Sept. 15, 2003. The article about the soldier's death was based on an investigative report the newspaper obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
Peterson had a hard time separating being an interrogator from who she was as an individual, according to the article.
The soldier apparently had a lot of empathy for Iraqi detainees, so much so she was reprimanded and reassigned after just two days as an interrogator, the newspaper article stated.
She reportedly was concerned detainees did not have showers in the cage "where they were held" or other accommodations, did not like being required to be nice to one person and harsh to another and was particularly upset when only three of 43 detainees questioned were found worthy of additional attention, the newspaper said the investigating document stated.
One of the sworn statements from a fellow soldier about the number of detainees held said: "he was angry with the fact that we treated them all as guilty initially and only backed off when their innocence was proven," the Daily Sun reported.
In the article, Peterson was described as driven, intelligent and warm. It was noted she had a talent for learning languages. After graduating from Northern Arizona University, she enlisted in the Army and attended the Defense Language Institute, which is in California, where she learned Arabic.
Then-Maj. Gen. David H. Petraeus approved the investigation report, the newspaper sated. Today, he is the four-star general in command of all Iraqi operations.
The priests contest the reports by the Army that torture is not taught, stating the main reason for Peterson's self-inflicted death was she had to torture as part of her job, which she learned while attending counterintelligence courses on Fort Huachuca, which is one of the many classes taught on the post.
Fast not commander
The two men also claim that Fast, who when she served in Iraq, commanded the prison at Abu Ghraib, the scene of detainee abuse.
The post's spokeswoman said this is not true. Linton said the general served as the director of intelligence for the Multi-Nation Force-Iraq, Operation Iraqi Freedom.
"She did not command Abu Ghraib prison. The facility was commanded by Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, and interrogation operations were commanded by Col. Thomas Pappas," Linton said.
Pappas was the commander of an intelligence brigade and has been punished, as has Karpinski, according to news reports.
The detainee abuse was committed by military police, medical and intelligence soldiers, most of whom have been punished, news reports state.
Fast has been the subject of a number of investigations and has not been charged. When she returned from Iraq, she was supposed to assume command of the Intelligence Center and the fort, but that was delayed a number of months until the last investigation was completed. She will leave command in late June, heading to a lateral assignment at the Training and Doctrine Command at Fort Monroe, Va.
Linton said any allegation that Fast supports torture is untrue.
"Throughout her 30-plus years in the Army, Maj. Gen. Fast has adhered to all applicable laws and policies and has lived the Army values," Linton said, adding, "She has never condoned torture."
Torture training ground
On the other hand, the priests are not convinced the post is not the initial torture training ground for the Army.
To them, 18-, 19- and 20-year-olds at Fort Huachuca are being turned into torturers.
Vitale and Kelly are among those who do not accept the government's non-torture claim.
The question they are facing will be answered by a federal judge, if they can create a trial within their trial.
And, they believe, it is equally important for Arizonans that it has taken awhile for the anti-torture community to recognize that initial training in dehumanizing a soldier starts in the state.
"It starts here in your back yard," Vitale told the audience. "It starts at Fort Huachuca."
For Fast, there is no hiding how training is done on the post.
Training on the fort is transparent, she said, emphasizing that under lawful polices "which forbids torture" American and other lives are being saved.
"We have hosted several media days for the media to view our training, and also supported numerous individual requests from international, national and regional media. Additionally, several congressional officials have visited and observed our training," Fast said.
herald/Review senior reporter Bill Hess can be reached at 515-4615 or by e-mail at bill.hess@svherald.com.
© 2007 Wick Communications.
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15 Comments so far
Show AllWell, why don't you guys get off your oversized $%^es and join the Army. Its real easy to find out, go to the school as a soldier, and see how fast it takes to get dropped from interrogation school for law-of-land warfare violations. Happens all the time.
Torture is bad, what those pukes did at Abu G was terrible, but don't go blaming all interrogators.
As far as the girl offing herself, it wasn't torture that "drove" her to do it, cause all she had to do was tell any # of reporters that were around in 2003. It was a lack of testicular fortitude.
Your priests are wrong, get over yourselves.
Rev. Louis Vitale & Rev. Steve Kelly, THANK YOU!
What sets us up to condone torture is painting any group with a broad brush. As long as it's not us, many don't seem to care, but it's so atrocious when they are the ones who suffer under the same conditions that they are so willing to bestow on others. We are men, women, fathers, mothers, children, first, even before our beliefs. I don't follow any organized religion, but I believe in a Universal God that includes all of us, atheists too. Beliefs don't move me, more than actions and I'll let the Revs actions speak for them, as they speak for those who are unable to speak for themselves.
"Well what do you know, two biblethumpers with backbone."
Please, never refer to a Catholic as a "bible-thumper". such a term refers only to Protestant fundamantalists and their absurd literal reading of said book. Catholics understand that nearly all the stuff in the bible is highly subject to interpretation, and the time comes when you toss the bible aside and use their instincts for justice instead.
Yup, I thought Catholic-bashing was over. Even the KKK and the Masons let Catholics be members now.
Torture hurts everyone.
Torture obviously hurts the victim, but it also damages the psyche of the torturer. It hurts the morale of the army forced to listen to the screams of the suffering - not to mention the personal safety of any American soldiers that might be captured.
Torture hurts our credibility and our honor as a nation, and deeply undercuts our democratic 'leadership' around the world. We've lost the respect of the entire world since we lowered ourselves to this level of thug behavior. We are behaving no better than a banana republic. That we overthrew Saddam - partly on the argument that he tortured Iraqis and used chemical weapons against his own people... and we later used his very prison to torture Iraqis (most of them innocent of any wrongdoing,) is unconscionable. It is also incredibly, unbelievably STUPID.
Lastly, advocating torture hurts all Americans - it destroys our morality as a nation, and has done immeasurable damage to our reputation around the world.
Our grandparents' generation stormed the beaches in Normandy to overthrow fascism, and many saw first hand the results of Nazi torture when they liberated the concentration camps. They were liberators and heroes, and many people came to see America as a force for good in the world. We have betrayed our parents and grandparents with this abominable behavior. It is completely unworthy of their example and their sacrifices.
And as for these strange, pro-torture, 'Christian' presidential candidates like Romney... I challenge you to find any positive mention of torture - anywhere - in the New Testament. Christ said to 'turn the other cheek.' Christ said 'blessed are the peace makers.' The only mention of torture in the entire New Testament is the torture inflicted on Jesus himself: and if you want to line up on THAT side, please refrain from using the word 'Christian' when describing yourselves.
Good on you!! Good men of the cloth doing great things for all of us.
Now it is the time for ALL of us to do what we can to close down the School of the Americas.
Representative McGovern has introduced HR 1707, the Latin America Military Training Review Act! The legislation was introduced with 71 bipartisan cosponsors and has grown to over 90 cosponsors.. This legislation would suspend operations at the SOA/ WHINSEC and investigate the history of torture and human rights abuses associated with the school.
Learn more and take action at : http://www.soaw.org/article.php?id=96
Thanks
Do these people really expect that we have the attention span and memory of a rock with Alzheimer's? Does anyone but me remember THE SIGNING STATEMENT Bush made when he signed the much touted Detainee Treatment Act- in which he stated that he would ignore this law-like he ignores so many laws- whenever his gut told him that it was necessary to assure the security of this nation? This law means nothing to this bunch of thugs and crooks. No law means anything if it restrains their power. Not even the Constitution. [That is not a DEFINITION of fascism, but it IS its essence.)
And now they throw that "law" at men of the cloth who are trying to hold this government accountable? They are so totally beyond the capacity to feel shame it is scary.
And in ending this, I would just like to say to the people of conscience in Arizona, that there are like minded people here in North Carolina, doing our part to put an end to this torture regime. In particular the torture taxis and contractors that provide aircraft and pilots for extraordinary rendition flights.
the struggle continues//
I am one of the people who was protesting torture training at Ft. Huachuca in November when Frs. Kelly and Vitale tried to deliver their letter to Barbara Fast and were subsequently arrested for trespass. I was also one of five people who accompanied them back to Ft. Huachuca on February 13, after they were summoned via mail to attend their arraignment. You can find information about what happened that day at
http://tortureontrial.org/media.html#francisco
http://tortureontrial.org/media.html#february15
I find it hard to believe the courtroom could not fit five supporters. But I suppose it could have been tough given the number of armed guards assigned to escort us everywhere from the bathroom down to the basement room where we had our meeting (which turned out to not be an arraignment after all). Never mind. These issues are inconsequential given the horror of torture being carried out with our tax dollars and in our name. More information about torture training and its relationship to Ft. Huachuca, and information about how you can support Frs. Kelly and Vitale, can be found at http://tortureontrial.org
Once again the torture thing comes up in connection with the good people of Arizona.
The photo and caption on this outdated page (not for the squeamish) will give you an idea how we treat our evildoers down here in Tom Mix country, just a few miles, actually, from where John and Cindy McCain walk the dog:
http://www.voxclamantis.com/pages/letsfeed.html
Also Ken Mitchell is right. Catholic bashing is getting a little tiresome. A lot of clergy down here put their asses on the line all the time. Look up the sanctuary movement.
Your prejudice is showing. Not all Catholic priests are pediphiles. Torture is as bad as pediphilia.
Instead of protesting in Arizona, why do not these fine men of the cloth (and I am Catholic, too) go to the nearest seminary and protest against teaching how to sexually molest altar boys?
Well what do you know, two biblethumpers with backbone.
Reverend Louis Vitale and Reverend Steve Kelly good on you both, you have our deepest respect and thanks. Piss on Jerry Falwell and his ilk.
Onward Christian Soldiers!
Real Men fight fascists! Just like my dad did.
This is not only a war or the torturing of Iraq.
It is a war that is doing great harm to America, putting our own citizens into "shock and awe."
Torturing the soldiers and their families.
I have no doubt that they are teaching torture now or that they have been involved in internationalizing torture in the past via this school.
America can support Human Rights or torture, but not both.
Last year, I was "attacked" (instructor's term) by a US military officer in an online, "Anthropology in Tourism" course, and it was astonishing how quickly, and vehemently, the other classmates jumped on this guy's bandwagon against me. What did I say? I was responding to the officer's previous post, about the Iraq War, and simply stated that I thought it was very wrong, how the Bush administration misused an anthropologist's text on Iraqi culture, so they could find the best ways to torture the Iraqi's. This officer went "ballistic", claimed I was accusing HIM of torture! In fact, as a former Marine, I feel empathy for all the military personnel (and told him so) forced to obey what amount to the most absurd collection of orders carried out by any of our forces in our country's entire history (at least, what is publicly known as impossibly wrong and unconstitutional, and yet still continues, unabated).
The course instructor defended me against the class, and forced the offesive classmate to quit making class posts. This officer and I then corresponded via email, going back and forth a few rounds. He's one seriously unaware mo'fo'. I suggested he read decorated Marine Corps General, Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket", written in the 1930's (and available online) which, with the most refreshing and straightforward prose describes the war money making machine.
Smedley Butler also exposed a coup to take over the country in the 1930s, "The Business Plot", which ended up with a gov. investigation, but nothing happened at all to the several leaders of US industry that were mentioned as somehow complicit (JP Morgan, Jr. included).
Vitale and Kelly- keep up the "good" work!
This swine meets the dictionary definition of the term "fascist."
John McCain is a bitch for the GOP, the USA's official fascist party. We don't his immoral, phony, lying, no good slimy booty in any public office. He is a money grubbing, green back dollar worshipping scum bag we can easily do without.
Oh, and do I need to explain the word "fascist"? The dictionary definition fits this dawg to the T.