CBS Fires Former Iraq Commander for Speaking Out Against Bush Policies in Iraq
NEW YORK - It took CBS two weeks to fire Don Imus for calling a college women's basketball team "nappy headed hos," but it only took them two days to fire Major General John Batiste for speaking out against the president and his policies on the war in Iraq.
Groups critical of the war and President Bush say it is an outrage.
Batiste, a Republican, commanded troops in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. He left the Army on a mision to speak out against what he calls "the president's reckless policy in Iraq." A short time after that, CBS hired him as a part-time consultant.
But then last week, Batiste appeared in a VoteVets.org TV ad speaking out against the president on Iraq. Just two days later, CBS fired him.
"It's censorship, pure and simple," Moveon.org stated. They say they are going to rally over 100,000 people to send messages demanding that CBS re-hire Major General John Batiste by the end of the week.
As in the case of Don Imus though, supporters of Batiste are well served to remember that CBS is a business, not a democracy, and they are not necessarily bound to keep any employee around that they deem should no longer work there.
Still, the move by CBS to dismiss the General who commanded forces in Iraq does seem consistent with other similar firings in the federal government. Several notable generals have spoken out publicly against the course of the war in Iraq, they appear to have learned to wait until they are out of the military to do it however.
CBS says they fired Major General Batiste because he engaged in advocacy, but critics say CBS is holding him to a different standard than their other consultants.
One example is former White House communications director Nicolle Wallace, a consultant to CBS who is known for using her position to push White House talking points.
It was also reported that she was advising the McCain campaign, yet CBS did nothing when she appeared as a consultant on their network to promote his candidacy. The Brookings Institution's Michael O'Hanlon also appeared on CBS as a consultant while advocating in favor of President Bush's escalation plan.
Major General John Batiste is not the first general to speak out against policies in Iraq. Recently a number of generals and military leaders have spoken out, including Reagan's former NSA director, General William Odom, Vietnam veteran Major General Mel Montano and another former general from Iraq-retired Major General Paul Eaton.
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Show AllWell there there are a number of "responsible, objective reporters, news analysts, and journalists," Bill Moyers, Amy Goodman, David Brancaccio, Lou Dobbs sometimes, Mark Shields just to name a couple. Notice none of them are on ABC, CBS, or NBC. PBS has a sprinkling of laudable news programs, but you have to beware as the NewsHour sometimes seems a servant to the present abominable adminstration. People ought to support Al Franken's candidacy for senator in Minnesota (check out his website at alfranken.com) if they are looking for at least one responsible politician. Barbara Boxer of California has a lot of mettle. But, I find that most of the reporters I've mentioned do offer object reporting but fail to offer solutions to the problems they bring to light. If by implication they have such keen insight, they they ought to be able to see and suggest what ordinary people can do.
Is it really surprising that a network that helped sell the war would fire someone who spoke out against it? And why would anyone be surprised to find out that some rich Bush backer owns or controls said network.
If anyone knows of a news agency that broadcasts real news please let me know. I'm fed up with Paris Hilton's jail time and/or Britney's lack of panties. I don't give a damn if Paris gets life or Britney never buys a pair of panties. We have men and women being killed every day in Iraq and Afganistan. Why would I give a damn what some slut has done?Where are the journalists that search for truth? Are they all sitting on their asses repeating the party spin? If I wanted that I could listen to "Rush the Drugie."
Is this a good start?
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Comment by JTitor — May 11, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Thanks to our good friend JTitor at Think Progress!!http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/10/cbs-fires-gen-batiste-over-votevets-ad/
Gotta get started - Peace
kudos to you Broccoli!! Good night and good luck, INDEED!!! I need to watch that one again - for the hundredth time!
I'd pay money to see Moyers, Cronkite, Donahue, and the Maj. Gen all together - better yet, put them in the chair recently vacated by Imus and broadcast them over every indi radio station in the country.
Love the idea of boycotting CBS sponsers but since I don't watch the bloody thing, I'd need to find a list of the blighters somewhere. Any clues?
peace
Link TV-watch Link if you want cutting edge information. It's viewer supported, has Amy Goodman with Democracy Now on every day and middle east reports on Mosaic at night-
As for CBS, I've also blocked it on my remote but if anyone can tell me how to identify their customers, I'd gladly publish the list locally. If everyone did that, it'd be interesting to see how big business feels they can throw their weight around then.
CBS doesn't care what you think. Otherwise they wouldn't have fired Batiste. The networks are not interested in truth. They are interested in control over people, just like . . .
canuckchuck May 16th, 2007 2:34 pm
Revision:
CBS= Conservative Bastardization Service
Good night,
and good luck...
Wah,wah ,wah, bitch, bitch,bitch, all this huffing and puffing over a grunt who decided to switch.
Poor Katie! She needs all the help she can get yet CBS is once again throwing her to the wolves. Oh well, where it was once Criminal Minds for me, it will now be Crossing Jordan. Just my way of saying goodby CBS and hello NBC. BM
The firing is an insult to the Freedom of Speech, Batistes' knowledge and experience as a Commander in the field in Iraq, and of CBS's ability to judge what is good for television's role in a Democracy.
Write a letter to CBS today and express your opinion!
I'm trying to think of something on CBS that I watch that I could boycott. Actually, I'm at a loss.
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The boycott idea is terrific, but to make it work, you havr to TELL CBS that your are boycotting them. Go to cbs.com and click on the "feedback" link at the bottom of the page.
I guess it's deja vu all over again at CBS. Many years ago, during the witchunt era of Truman, which was the warm up to the notorious McCarthy period, CBS fired the noted journalist and historian, William Shirer for being too liberal. What we have in America is essentially the controlled press of an occupied country.
MSM will never change! You think they are starting to see things but it's really just "Damage Control".
aum33
Thanks for the link to the poll. I signed up this morning.
I also like the boycott idea too. Since MoveOn got the one letter writing/petition going, how can we get them to organize a boycott? I don't watch any of the major TV news or programs, so I have no idea who their advertisers are. If we were to REALLY pull this off, it would have to be nationally organized.
Any ideas?
The power of the people is enormous, when they activate it, that is. Yes, boycotting is the perfect way to show powers that be that it is the will of the people that really run this world. I've called for boycotting for years, and I'm happy to see so many others thinking it up too! The suggestion to "feedback" to CBS by Shane is superlative as are those who say to just turn off CBS. Dissent is as American as the Stars and Bars.
Amen frank1569 . . . We as a people can do it but what are we willing to give up in order to make the changes happen? I don't see anything happening except on a very small scale. When I stop seeing lines at EXXON's stations, when CBS, ABC, FOX and NBC stop having viewers, When Wendy's and MacDonalds stop building new location and you add to the list . . . Then and only then Americans can again hold up their heads and say we are FREE. Right now, follow the leader because the flock of sheep are trained to do so.
Sign the Petition
"CBS should not censor people who are critical of President Bush's policy in Iraq. CBS must re-hire Major General Batiste."
http://pol.moveon.org/pac/batiste/
I love the fact that they say they fired him for "engaging in advocacy". Of course, its obvious that when he was on TV as a former General, cheerleading on the war, he was also "engaged in advocacy."
The difference is obviously that when he's engaged in advocacy on the side CBS trumpets and supports, he's a great employee. When he engages in advocacy saying something CBS disagrees with, he's fired seven times faster than Imus.
BTW, one of the big complaints about modern TV journalism is that its treated as a business. That was not always the case in this country. And its more misleading BS from a different corporate media source to suggest that this is just the way it is and can't be questioned. There used to be a very firm and unbreachable wall between a networks business and news operations. The network news operations, just like other journalists, used to consider that they were there to perform a service to our country. They knew what used to be obvious that no democracy can exists or survive if the participants in the democracy don't have free and complete access to accurate information.
That's one of the big differences between CBS News (aka CBS Ministry of Propaganda) of today, and the CBS News of yesterday that had Walter Cronkite as both its public face and as one of the most trusted figures in America. The years of media acquisitions and mergers have destroyed the notion that the news division of a network was there to perform a public service.
At the time, this was much discussed. That's why its pretty obscene for this local Salem corporate news paper to toss in that line the CBS is a business so this is all perfectly ok. Its not all perfectly ok, and one of the conditions CBS used to operate under and still should be operating under is that they should have a comittment of serving this country by providing free, unfiltered and accurate news to the citizens of the nation.
Hey, if they don't want to do that, and want to just say they are a business like any other, why don't we take back all those High-Def TV frequencies that they citizens of this country have given CBS affiliates so they can provide exactly this service.
That, and watch how the line of BS changes when CBS is championing its rights of freedom of the press and its role in society when its suits its ends.
I used parental blocking several years ago to block all American corporate news from my TV set. That was a great improvement!
Never being privy to the contract I can only speculate that CBS had grounds for termination or they would have opened themselves up to a costly law suit.
One question does plague me. Why did the General participate in this war in the first place?
Yellow Horse
What don't these people get? Bush gives big tax cuts to rich owners, rich owners do as Bush says. It's very simple. Money makes the world go 'round and we're just here for the ride, and to pay for the gas.
If you are watching the Networks on any level you will eventually become a member of the flock of sheep that make up the majority of this country. When they made the show to see if you could compete against 5th graders should have given you a clue. If you missed that fact you are already a sheep. Sorry to be so curt but what else is there to say . . . Should I wish you well? . . .
I guess CBS has made a few policy changes since Cronkite spoke out about Vietnam. Oh, that's right. Itaq is not Vietnam.
Just another example of the kind of crap that has driven millions of us away from TV as even a remotely liable source of news. I find FRONTLINE and NOW exceptions. And I watch 60 MINUTES because I have been doing it so long that I don't know how to stop.
The performance of these so called purveyors of the news represent a real failure of democracy--the misinforming of the public in the run up to the Iraq being only their most recent egregious failure.
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Here's a new and innovative idea - stop whining and boycott CBS and as many of their advertisers as possible. You know, we don't need the President to "call for sacrifice" before we start to put our money where our mouths are. Is it so much to ask? To not support the enablers and thieves and democracy-haters? Don't watch CBS - or ABC, for that matter (until they fire bigot Beck.) Don't patronize their advertisers. Don't buy Exxon gas. We progressives sure do like to talk and write a lot, but where's the action? Hell, if it weren't for Code Pink and a barely a handful of other, small, gutsy groups, America wouldn't even know we exist.
As if the other corporate (pre-fascist) news outlets are much different.
In Bill Moyers' documentary, "Selling the War," Phil Donahue stated that we was told by the network (don't remember which) that for every liberal he had on his show, he had to balance it with two conservatives, and that Donahue himself counted as two liberals.
If anyone believes that any major news outlet, be it TV, radio, or print (that is corporate owned) isn't a conservative mouthpiece, I have a piece of the Yellow Brick Road to sell them.
CBS= Conservative Blabbermouth Service
"...it only took them (CBS) two days to fire Major General John Batiste for speaking out against the president and his policies on the war in Iraq."
It sounds like CBS was getting a little nervous over a Major General speaking out against U.S. War policies. I guess they don't like Patriots who have the courage to speak about the volatile and potentially explosive and permanent damage this administration is creating for our country.
With any luck, more "top brass" patriots will step forward, knowing that we cannot continue on the same military path before we self-destruct as a nation.
They are our only hope to stop this insanity and restore a Constitutional government.
I don't know that I am a supporter of Batiste, but as the article suggests, I do remember that CBS is a business. I have deleted CBS from my available channels (for the little corporate news that I used to watch)and have emailed CBS to inform them of my decision. If I'm going to live in a Corpratocracy, at least I can still vote with my dollars.
Do you think this might be a response that CBS understands?
I'm on a roll! Westinghouse owns CBS according to this post again, from Think Progress...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/10/cbs-fires-gen-batiste-over-votevets-ad/
"Amazing what a quick search finds out, CBS had the BushCo Carlye group's Frank Carlucci in charge over there. Now this all makes sense. Bastards!"
"WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)"
Comment by Kyle — May 11, 2007 @ 1:51 am
Do you ever notice how corporations always proudly announce, "This is not a Democracy"? As corporations take over more and more of our lives, and citizens experience and exercise fewer and fewer democratic and Constitutional rights, I wonder when the day will come when our President will actually say the same thing. Not the present perfect tense, as in "A dictatorship would be easier, as long as I'm the dictator," but the present tense, as in "This is not a Democracy," spoken by a Chief Executive. When it finally happens, the scary thing will be that no one will blink.
Oh, wait a minute... Bush has already told us "I'm the decider." Therefore, while he talks about freedom, law and order, I guess he's the decider of what that means as well. Isn't it scary when a moron with an 85 or 90 IQ becomes our dictionary?!?! Actually, it's pretty fitting, especially if "Freedom is Slavery."
On one level, I am appalled that CBS doesn't believe that that their employees have free speech when off the clock.
On the other hand, every military analyst at corporate media is so pro-war they basically just quibble at the edge of any military adventure no matter how immoral.
He will be replaced with another member of the military industrial complex choir.