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Pelosi's Next Tactic: Fund The War in Iraq 2 Months at a Time
New Strings Attached To Funding of The War
WASHINGTON -- The confrontation between Congress and President Bush over the Iraq war will enter its next phase Thursday, when the House plans to vote on the Democratic leadership's new plan to put war spending on a strict, almost month-by-month diet.
The White House indicated strongly Tuesday that Bush would veto such a bill, just as he did an earlier version of the war spending bill that required U.S. troops to begin to withdraw from Iraq later this year.
And it's still not clear if the House leadership proposal will prevail in the Senate, where small groups of Democratic and Republican senators are negotiating their own legislation.
The House bill would give Bush $30.4 billion to pay for the Iraq war over the next two months but would require another vote in late July before Congress would provide another $53 billion to pay for the war through Sept. 30, the end of the federal fiscal year.
The legislation is likely to face near-unanimous Republican opposition in the House and Senate -- as did the $124 billion emergency war spending plan passed by Congress and vetoed last week by Bush.
The new approach formulated by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her top deputies also has been assailed by a coalition of anti-war groups, which wants the Democrats who control the House and Senate to stand up to Bush and end the war as soon as possible, even in the face of presidential vetoes.
House Democrats said they are well aware of the conflicting pressures -- from their party base, which wants them to end the war, from their own members not to cut off funds for troops in the field and from the public's expectation that they will assume a role as a stable governing force in Washington.
They also are aware, given recent comments by GOP leaders that Bush has only until late summer to show progress in Iraq before his support within the party folds, that time might be on their side.
"There isn't a member across the spectrum, ideologically or geographically, who isn't getting pressure from constituents. They want to see a Congress that will bring change in Iraq policy,'' said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who chairs the House Democratic Caucus.
The latest plan emerged as the Pentagon notified more than 35,000 troops to prepare to deploy to Iraq beginning this fall, a move that would allow commanders to maintain the president's policy of building up troop levels through the end of the year if needed.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose, said her constituents aren't as concerned about the details of legislation as with the fact that Congress is confronting Bush, who has argued that the Democratic plan to create a timeline for withdrawal would constitute a surrender to terrorism and would impinge on his powers as commander in chief.
"People are grateful to us for standing up and trying to get something done,'' Lofgren said. "People care deeply. They burst into tears in the vegetable aisle'' at the grocery store when they talk to her about the war.
Pelosi said House Democrats have talked to the White House but wouldn't concede and send Bush a spending bill with no restrictions. The new proposal drops the deadlines for troop withdrawals but requires the president to report to Congress on whether the Iraqi government is meeting goals to secure peace, stability and political reconciliation.
"We're the Congress of the United States. When we're talking to the White House about something, they're talking for one person. We're talking for many people we have to bring together on an issue,'' she said.
Pelosi -- who so far has managed to hold together House Democrats through the twists and turns of months of debate on the war -- again will have to persuade the most ardent anti-war Democrats to stay with her in Thursday's vote.
Rep. William Clay, D-Mo., said the new bill is a major letdown and that he might not be able to support it. He had voted for previous versions.
"If it doesn't have the withdrawal timelines, I don't like it. That was the only reason I voted for it in the first place,'' Clay said.
"What are we going to do, except give in a little bit more to the president? He vetoed the bill. That was his intention. Now it's time for us to follow through on our intention'' and keep withdrawal language, he said.
Last Thursday, a coalition of 20 anti-war groups wrote Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to tell them Democrats should not give in to Bush by dropping a withdrawal timeline from the spending bill.
David Swanson, a representative of two of those groups, Democrats.com and Afterdowningstreet.org, said the new bill is unacceptable.
"The peace movement does not support further funding of this war and even more so does not support funding the war without a deadline to end it,'' he said.
At the White House, Bush spokesman Tony Snow stopped just short of saying Bush would veto the new House bill if it reached him. Instead, he panned the bill as "just bad management.''
"We think it is appropriate to be able to give commanders what they are going to need, and also forces in the field, so that you can make long-term decisions in trying to build the mission," Snow said.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., also slammed the proposal. "I don't think there'll be much, if any, Republican support for a bifurcated supplemental appropriation for the troops,'' he said. War spending plans
After President Bush's veto last week of the $124 billion emergency spending bill, House Democrats have responded with a new plan to pay for the Iraq war through the end of the federal fiscal year, Sept. 30
The new plan splits the original legislation into two parts and drops a requirement to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq:
The House is scheduled to vote Thursday on a bill that would provide at least $83.4 billion for the war in Iraq through September and more than $20 billion more for operations in Afghanistan, Hurricane Katrina relief, medical coverage for poor children and veterans and an increase in the federal minimum wage.
About $30.4 billion of the Iraq war money would be released immediately, but the rest would be held back. The proposal would require the president to report to Congress by July 13 about whether the Iraqi government has made progress on such items as sharing oil revenues and other political power. Congress would have to vote again to release the remaining money.
On Friday, the House is scheduled to vote on billions in emergency farm aid that were included in the original legislation. The aid package includes farm drought relief in the Midwest, $60 million for Klamath River salmon fishermen and other items.
Democratic leaders expect to debate the plan for troop withdrawals again as part of bills now moving through committees that would authorize and spend the money for 2008 Pentagon operations, including the war.
Copyright 2007 San Francisco Chronicle



19 Comments so far
Show AllCongress should quit dickin' around and impeach the bastards. Let the Presichimp try to veto THAT
What is there to lose submitting another bill with a timetable to withdraw troops? Bush is going to veto the piece of legislation Pelosi is writing now and it tells the President that if he waits long enough and vetos enough he will finally get what he wants-don't give it to him
to canuckchuck,
What does Bush have to do to be impeached that he hasnt already done? Do you see any backbone in Congress for impeachment? I mean, at least Bush hasnt been caught getting blowjob in the oval office and we know that is an impeachable offense.
As long as politicians see > nothing will change.
Ineffective gestures and bills are not anything the public should be grateful for. This is just posturing. RESULTS are the only thing that counts.
The copy/paste attempted in last post of Lofgren's comments didn't work. As long as politicians perceive public gratitude for ineffective posturing and introducing ineffective bills the politicians needn't do more.
We should not be concerned with who or which party is the toughest. The only thing that matters are RESULTS. Whether about Iraq or taxation or corruption or health insurance, etc.
Drex, you 100% right..same arguement that Bush trys to make about timetables.
If the Democrats do not move to impeach as they were elected to do, they will lose their slim majority
enough of the smoke and mirrors Pelosi...play with the beast at your peril..better to go for the quick and clean takout
The Democrats shouldn't back down an inch. Send Bush the same bill he vetoed again or no bill at all. As someone once mentioned, if Bush wants to abandon the troops in Iraq rather than bring them home with money already in the pipeline, then he would be impeached for sure. Senators and Representatives should be leading marches in the street.
Folks,
This over-intellectualizing, armchair quarterbacking won't solve shit. As Col. Ann Wright basically said in a previous article, Shut your pie holes and take some action!
During the past two months crude oil prices have not experienced a net cost increase, while the price of unleaded 87 octane fuel has increased more than $1.00 per gallon. This translates into enough excess oil company profit to fund the Iraq occupation through the end of the fiscal year. The Democrats need to send a bill to the bushmonster instructing him to seek funding from the oil companies.
Yeah, what andersdl said.
"Bush ... has argued that the ... plan to create a timeline for withdrawal would ... impinge on his powers as commander in chief."
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On the whole, I've all the time had trouble responding to Bush's claims and logic about the response to 9-11 - i.e. the Afghani and Iraqi wars - with anything more elaborate than "THAT'S NONSENSE". – Maybe stretched to "that obvious, blatant, downright nonsense".
This due to real fear that arguing against it - the claims and logic - on its (lack of) merits would only pull one onto the defensive in a quagmire-discussion. Discussing it would be detracting from the main point, that Bush's claims are nonsense.
Taking apart Bush's nonsense starts with pointing out the impossibility of "bringing the guilty ones to juctice" regarding a suicide attack. It's in the nature of a suicide-attack that "the guilty ones" are already DEAD. However much that thwarts the desire to punish them. The guilt others have can only be secondary, however complicit. Bush's approach is that there are others who are MORE GUILTY than the ones who did the crime. That's a thirst for revenge gone wild.
Now, in responding to Bush's veto-speech, I see only one point as salient: that in the response to his rhetorical question "who ought to make that [military] decision? The Congress or the commanders?", the answer is from the US constitution: "The Congress shall have Power ... To declare War [and] To raise and support Armies" - or not, as implied.
I fail to see that there can really be any further discussion on the matter, much as GWB wants one. With GWB saying: "That didn't make any sense to me, to impose the will of politicians over the recommendations of our military commanders in the field.", someone should answer him that there wasn't any need for it to make sense to him: it's the Constitution that "imposes the will of politicians" in Congress over "military commanders". Beginning and end of discussion.
Then someone should joke about whether anything at all might "make sense" to GWB if he doesn't like it. Probably not – apparently to disagree is to not "make sense" to Bush.
In the mean time, we should be glad Bush admits that the US Constitution "didn't make any sense to" him. Many of us have realized that for quite some time now.
Enough, already (- long time ago, in fact).
Ole Ullern
"Commander in Chief" is simply a title, George. It doesn't mean you should get to play with the real soldiers; it is only a reminder to the military guys that us civilians are in charge. You have made a terrible mess and for once in your silly life you are going to have to pay the piper. That other title that you got? P-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t. It doesn't mean "God"; it really means servant to the People. Tell the other corporate shills in your f-o-c-u-s group that y'all have been dancing with them what brung ya long enough -- it is now time to dance for them that pays for the music. Time for you and the rest of your kind to get out of town.
Please, PLEASE.... Somebody, anybody, (but not ME) give Dubya a blowjob, post it on YouTube and then IMPEACH..
Brown May 9th, 2007 3:18 pm
"This over-intellectualizing, armchair quarterbacking won't solve shit. As Col. Ann Wright basically said in a previous article, Shut your pie holes and take some action!"
Yup.....Col. Ann Wright has it right!
Ullern... We all know that 9/11 had sweet FA to do with "Afghanistan/Taliban" or "Iraq/Saddam" (but those countries/players have everything to do with oil/gas supplies /pipelines..). It had much much more to do with PNAC, AIPAC and the defence of US/Israeli hegemony and as such was planned, enabled and orchestrated by many who are starting, at long last, to slip onto the radar.
Bush's war is not a "revenge" attack but a blatant imperialist resources grab under the guise of responding. It is tragic that he and his co-conspirators were able to suck in other world leaders (so called) so easily (but then a monkey in a suit is still a monkey..)
To discuss/attempt to dissect these blatant lies and deceptions is to actually give them credence and more importantly, divert attention away from the real agenda(s). Alex Jones has his eye on the ball at PrisonPlanet.. (I have no affiliation) Check Him Out..
Maybe Nancy is more than a political-bimbo-Barbie Doll. How delicious to see her turn in an even less palatable bill than the previous one vetoed.
This almost reminds me of that silly TV show Deal/No Deal with Dubya being the shlub contestant, Nancy being the slick talking host, and let's see, maybe Petraeus being the banker who every once in a while calls to remind Dubya that the troops need to be paid and supplied.
Funny how life can imitate fantasy sometimes!
speaking of impeachment, does anyone know why Pelosi took impeachment "off the table" as soon as she was in power? I mean here was a big ace to play, if she wasnt sure when to play it she could have just kept it in her hand to see how things shake out- but no, she just up and discards.
Drex... Impeachment is not on the AIPAC/PNAC agenda..
There are only two major parties in the US. The Democrats don't have to be anti-war; they only have to be slightly less pro-war than the Republicans to get all of the anti-war votes. It is kind of like being on The Price is Right and making a guess that is one penny away from the other contestants guesses.
The challenge is to figure out why all of these leaders are pro 'stay the course'.
I know war is all about plunder, but does that explain everything? Can all of our leaders be benefitting financially from the war? I just can't see it.
When George Junior was talking war, most of the country and especially Washington thought this war would be just like the last one--Quickly won, with the US parading its military prowess to an awe-struck world. That war was so widely popular that Congress was afraid to say anything against Iraq War Part II.
Today, most of them are afraid of being blamed for leaving too early, afraid of showing non-support for the troops, etc. Yes most of them are corrupt. They are also vain, silly and completely devoid of insight.
It is important to not allow Democrats like Pelosi to feel too cozy in their role.