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US Democrats Raise Prospect of Bush's Impeachment Over Iraq
A top US congressional Democrat has raised the possibility of George W. Bush's impeachment in a bid to force the president to accept a compromise that would place conditions on continued US military involvement in Iraq.Representative John Murtha, who chairs the House Subcommittee on Defense and is close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, made the comment Sunday in response to repeated threats by the president to veto legislation that calls for withdrawal of US troops from Iraq by the end of next March.
"There's three ways or four ways to influence a president," Murtha said on CBS's "Face the Nation" program. "One is popular opinion, the election, third is impeachment and fourth is the purse."
Asked specifically if Democrats, who now control the US Congress, were seriously contemplating the impeachment option, the congressman responded: "What I'm saying, there's four ways to influence a president ... And one of them's impeachment."
Some of the fiercest critics of President Bush have long charged he has illegally manipulated intelligence to accuse the Iraqi government of late president Saddam Hussein of secretly stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, thereby creating a pretext for the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq since the invasion but the White House has strongly denied the intelligence manipulation charge.
The impeachment threat is being dangled as the White House and congressional Democrats face a new showdown over Iraq policy in coming weeks.
A 124-billion-dollar war funding bill passed by the House of Representatives Wednesday and the Senate on Thursday established a non-binding target of completing a US combat troop pullout from Iraq by March 31, 2008.
The measure is expected to land on the president's desk on Tuesday, the fourth anniversary of his now much ridiculed "Mission Accomplished" speech, in which he, standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier off the coast of California, declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq.
As promised, Bush will wield his veto pen, and Democrats acknowledge they lack the votes to override his decision.
But they have made it clear that while the withdrawal deadline will most likely be dropped, they still would like to come up with a bill that would place limits and conditions on future US operations in Iraq.
One of the proposals, according to Murtha, calls for making the continued US military presence in Iraq contingent on the Iraqi government meeting specific political benchmarks designed to stem violence.
They include showing progress in reaching power-sharing arrangement that would bolster the role of Sunnis in the Iraqi government, an agreement to equitable distribution of oil wealth, and a crackdown on militias.
Murtha also suggested limiting the life of a revised war-funding bill from one year to just two months to allow for an earlier congressional review of the situation.
"I'd like to look at this again in two months," he said.
But the administration was quick to shoot down the idea of any restrictions on White House Iraq policy.
"To begin now to tie our own hands and to say 'We must do this if they don't do that' doesn't allow us the flexibility and creativity that we need to move this forward," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on the same show.
She warned that benchmarks written into US law "might give incentives to the wrong people".
A veteran of the US Marine Corps, Murtha touched off a firestorm in Washington in November 2005 when he called for redeployment of US troops from Iraq.
Copyright © 2007 AFP.



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Show AllOne big difference between Kucinich and Gravel is that one depends on bribed politicians to fix government corruption and the other depends on the public as lawmakers. Which plan has the best chance of success?
Impeach Bush / Cheney Now. Waste no more time. Impeach Bush/Cheney Now.
The more who call and write their representatives in Washington, including Nancy Pelosi - the better. Once a week is not too much!
nANCY PELOSI
(202) 225-4965
The incompetent dithering over impeaching a President and VEEP.....the two most impeachable individuals in US history is as depressing as it is pathetic.....
Why are leading Democrats dragging their heals on such a constitutionally vital matter.....
Apart from the fact they will expose their own complicity in the aforesaid CRIMES.....
What's going to happen is what Reid and Pelosi have always said was going to happen. They are going to approve the funding request for another year's worth of more money, and do it with no binding sort of strings attached. Reid and Pelosi clearly said the day after the election last Nov that this is what they would do, and they are still going to deliver on this.
All of the rest is just theater. The big problem facing Pelosi and Reid has always been that their party was massively opposed to this. So everything you've seen has just been theater leading up to the point when they pass this bill with no requirements to withdraw. Its all just theater to make you think something was being done to end the war, while in reality Pelosi and Reid are just following through on the promises they made in the last campaign.
The same goes for impeachment. Pelosi and Reid also promised not to do this. And they won't. That's just bs being dangled out there for the base, to make the base think maybe there's a chance they'll get what they want. They won't. Pelosi and Reid have made this very clear. What you might see is an impeachment process begun, but it won't happen until Pelosi and Reid have successfully run out the clock far enough that they couldn't impeach before the next election. At this point, they don't have to stall much longer to accomplish that. And given the way the Democrats in Congress have been leaning on the various state legislatures considering impeachment resolutions, its absolutely perfectly clear that the Congressional Democrats do NOT want to impeach.
I'm not sure who Pelosi and Reid made the promises to. My guess is to some big money that backed the Democrats last time. But the one thing that is very clear is that they care much more about fulfilling these promises than they care what their party things. The leadership of the Democratic Party has made it perfectly crystal clear that they don't care what their party thinks. You can pass all the state party resolutions you want on getting out of Iraq or impeachment. The leadership of the Democratic Party has made it very clear they don't care and are not listening to the members of their party.
They won't stop the funding for this war. And they won't impeach. If you wanted either, you wasted your vote voting Democratic ... as both Pelosi and Reid have been crystal clear on both these points since well before the last election.
The Democrats have also made it very clear that they view what favors their election chances in 2008 as more important for what's good for the country. Thus, they seem to actually want the war to continue, and the last thing they really want is for the US to be out of there by next March. They'd much rather have the campaign issue, and if it cost the lives of another 1000 or so American troops, and gawd knows how many Iraqis, they don't care.
Personally, I think its sick and disgusting that on both issues the Democrats clearly put what's good for their political chances ahead of what's good for the country.
After the Tenent interview on 60 minutes last night, is there any doubt LEFT that this gang of criminals in the WH is the most immoral, corrupt, incompetent, devious, decietful, criminal parasites to have ever slithered into power?
Impeachement, conviction, LIFE! NO man is above the LAW!
I have long maintained that the power of people is (like) a sleeping dragon. I know that this term has been used frequently to describe situations in which latent potential power is made actual. Years ago, particularly during the Cold War, China was often referred to as such.
The sleeping dragon to me is the potential of human consciousness. We are all dreaming in one sense. We are sleepwalking through the world in which we live, neither aware of its dangers nor of its possibilities. To the extent that individuals have not yet "caught on" to their potential, the dragon continues to sleep. Were a significant number of humans to awaken to their potential, we could almost instantly cause significant change. But there has to be a threshold crossed before this happens. And this threshold is what all of the prophets, the mystics, and the activists anticipate.
Since the power of analogy and metaphor seems to reach further into the minds of humans than does mere intellectual discussion, I will use here a second metaphor for human mass consciousness, then synthesize the two.
Consider water, which is considered the dominant element of intelligent life. First, water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen. Second, if you put these two gasses together in a tank, you will not automatically get water. In fact, even before you get water, you will get an explosion. Third and finally, the same oxygen that reacts with hydrogen to form water will react with other metals to form rust, or tarnish.
What I believe humanity is dealing with at this point is a tank of separate elements. Hydrogen, the most common element in the Universe, is our potential. Oxygen, which usually bonds with other elements, is our need to form bonds. Lacking as yet the spark of enlightenment as to our own oneness as a race, we watch passively and helplessly as our institutions corrode from within, while the planet on which we live is in unprecedented danger. That some continue to deny this danger is part of the corrosion, or oxidation process.
But human potential awaits a certain spark that will render an explosion of consciousness, followed by water, or the recognition of our common origin and connection as a live species.
My biggest preoccupation in this lifetime has to do with the "how", "when", "why", "where" and "who" of this awakening. Although I confess ignorance of the "how" and "when" of it, I do recognize that the "why" of it is because it is our nature as conscious beings to eventually recognize what we are born with, and to want to preserve life as we awaken this consciousness. This leaves two remaining questions, "where" and "who".
"Who" is you. "Who" is I. We have to recognize that we are one, not just in a vague spiritual sense, but in the fact that we all share the same water and air of life. If this is damaged, so is life.
"Where" is the trickiest of the questions. I believe that awakening happens first individually among individuals, and inside their complex consciousness. That is to say, the awakening of full self-consciousness is centered around the experience of "I". When awakened ones gather, they eventually produce the spark that sets off the explosion by which humanity is transformed. I will call this experience "We". Even the Bible has an early passage saying "Let US make (hu)man in OUR own image." If that isn't WE, I don't know what is. The bridge before us is to recognize that somewhere in the recesses of our consciousness is that original intent that created humanity. And where we are one with that original intent, WE ARE the creators! And as the dragon represents the creative element itself, WE ARE THE DRAGON!!!
I fully agree with jjpeter! We need not only impeach Bush, but also his entire administration. I've been saying for years that we are the new Imperial Rome and Nazi Germany. I've been wrong; neither of those organizations had the extreme power with which Emperor Adolph Bush is abusing the entire Earth. Impeach! Convict! Imprison!
I neglected to mention how this relates to impeachment. Could the burning Bush be the spark to which I refer?
I am a Pakistani and never been in USA (and franky don't want to be now after hearing how you guys treat muslims these days). When Soviet Union fell apart I thought it was so much like written on the wall for her as it was so closed, so uptight full of inequalities but not USA, I used to think. How can you bring down a country which is so free. Okay they are completely the bad guys on Israel-Palestine issue, okay they have been very cleverly controlling who rules my country and most of the Arab countries, just using them for their own interests and don't give a rat's ass about the peoples of these countries. but look how open , crystal clear in their internal system they are. Look how indiscriminate they are. No matter who you are and where are you from they treat u right. Na.. you just cant hope that such a country will ever fall apart. So right in many things. But voila……………..after 9/11, look what happened. How those few muslims changed all that. They made USA change its laws….good laws into bad ones. That's how it starts. Thoughts change, societies change and just in few years USA finds that its no longer that powerful. It is no longer taken as an example or atleast as a good example for that matter. Its no longer feared. If you guys cant control backward and weak countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and how would you counter China. Its not going to be like USSR because at that time you guys were seen as good guys. Not any more. People wake up !!! take a U turn or otherwise you've just got about 50 years ….not more . Why cant u guys just live your own lives and leave others alone.
This should have been done a long time ago... you know when they lied to the Nation and started an illegal war...
Raising the prospect of impeachment isn't enough - get the job done. Clinton lied about getting head in the oval office - the Right went mad - Bush Cheney and Co. are causing widespread death and chaos - where's the indignation? Where's the outrage? Where's the courage?
Take it to the street - All POWER to the PEOPLE!
aum33 makes a good point...but to expand on his/her point:
It requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate to convict on an impeachment. The Republicans have to get on-board the impeachment train to be able to throw them out of office, i.e. CONVICTION IN THE SENATE.
Contact Republican representatives and senators if you want the SOBs impeached -- and thrown out!
If the the requisite number of Repubs are not on-board for conviction, going for impeachment is a waste of time.
WHERE THE HELL IS THE MENTION OF DENNIS KUCINICH AND HIS ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AGAINST CHENEY PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO?!?!?!?! WHAT THE HELL DOES KUCINICH HAVE TO DO TO BE RECOGNIZED? WHERE IS HIS MUCH-EARNED ATTENTION ON THE SUBJECT OF IMPEACHMENT,NOT ONLY IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA BUT ON COMMONDREAMS AND OTHER "ALLEGEDLY" PROGRESSIVE SITES??!!!
MY GAWD! HE EVEN WANTS TO DO IT THE SMART WAY-CHENEY FIRST.
COME ON, YOU ALLEGED PROGRESSIVES, GET BEHIND KUCINICH AND STOP BLATHERING WORDS AND WHINING. YOU HAVE A GUY THAT PUT HIS ASS ON THE LINE OF HIS POLITICAL FUTURE FOR US!!!!
WHERE'S HIS RESPECT? WHERE'S HIS HEADLINES? WHERE THE HELL ARE "WE THE PEOPLE" WHEN HE NEEDS US?!
Impeachment? That's a laugh. It will never happen. Forget the Democrats and Republicans. Neither party is interested in the people of the United States - or anyone else, for that matter. Both are equally selfish and slef-serving. Both will continue to drown us needlessly in oil while pelting us with their lies. Both are spineless. It's time to look in other directions.
wasnt it Jefferson who said a little civil war every now and then is a good thing? could we be heading down that path right now. bush in a desperate move to sidestep impeachment declares yet another war with the democratic party. bush and cheney alone have enough money to finance thousands of mercenaries not to mention all the blind republican soldiers, trust me, I know some. they tell me im retarded and dont know anything and that newsweek is propaganda and FOX news is the best. no point arguing w/ that lot. all this talk of impeachment and we could just end up with another Civil War, Republicans v. Democrats, or Bush v. America. Its kind of a chilling thought to think about. Surely a world leader wouldn't attack or kill his own people...that would never happen....its never happened before right? *cough* Saddam *cough* Hitler *cough* Stalin
I'm scared...hold me...:P sorry to get off topic
Dennis Kucinich is putting everything on the line in putting forward Articles of impeachment. If that's what the American people want then they need to contact Pelosi, the House Judiciary Committee(Rep. Howard Berman, D-CA, is a key vote), their own Rep. and we can call Murtha's office too.
Impeachment is already "on the table"! It's called HR333. Today I e-mailed my Representative to co-sponsor the Articles of Impeachment against Cheney. Then I wrote Pelosi and told her she had the constitutional obligation to move HR333 through the House. Tomorrow I will call their offices in D.C.. The next day I will do the same things all over again. And I will tell everyone I know to do the same.
I'm tired of hearing that there is nothing "We the People" can do to take back our country. I'm tired of hearing that impeachment will never happen. I'm tired of listening to people who put their collective heads in the sand and pretend that they are powerless.
Kucinich supported the will of the people by putting impeachment back on the table! Now it is time that WE follow through by DEMANDING that Congress support HR333!
Why are these Dems telegraphing NOW that they are likely to back down and continue to waterdown the bill if Bush vetos ("they [the Democrats] have made it clear that while the withdrawal deadline will most likely be dropped")?
That's like advertising that they are just sending a political signal to their base supporters that they are "stading up to Bush" and are "against the war" while getting ready to authorize a hundred billion dollars of additional war spending with non-binding conditions just for show. So the Dems are the "show" opposition on the war. The American people have expressed their opposition to the war but the political class is determined to not let them get their way. I am almost more upset at the Dems than the Repubs, because I would rather face an easily identifiable enemy than one who pretends to be acting in my interests.
WHY WE NEED TO IMPEACH THE COMMANDER-IN-THIEF!
Impeachment of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush would be sound economic policy for America. Five hundred billion dollars, that's half a trillion dollars, in supplemental appropriations have been wasted on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and another war with Iran is in the making. What did we get for our money? Osama bin-forgotten is relaxing in Pakistan and our armed forces are pinned down in a quagmire in Iraq. The only question remaining is when do they leave, how much more money, and how many more dead and maimed will there be on both sides?
Five hundred billion dollars would be more than enough to re-tool the American automotive industry into a war-time Manhattan-type project. Under emergency federal government programs, General Motors would be ordered to put their workers back on the job to produce 1 million units of their plug-in hybrid prototype, the VOLT for the 2009 model year and at an affordable price. Ford and General Electric could ramp up their plants to begin mass production of tens of thousands of 1000kw wind turbines which, when installed across America's heartland, would provide the majority of all our energy needs at a fraction of the cost of fossil fuels, dramatically reduce greenhouse gases and rebuild our rural and urban economies at the same time. Denmark currently produces 20% of its electricity from wind and Germany and Great Britain are following close behind. It's not the lack of technology and it is obviously not the lack of dollars that keeps this country from kicking its addiction to foreign oil. It's the politicians, and Bush and Cheney especially, who are controlled by the oil corporations and the war profiteers and they will never allow our country to turn around. That is why I hope we will all begin to speak up loudly in support of impeachment of President Bush and Vice-president Cheney.
Dan Gips
Placitas , New Mexico
505 867-4801
See www.earthpolicy.org and www.pluginamerica.org
REBEL FARMER,
GOOD MAN!!!
Nice to hear someone else is capable of doing more than just spouting off and pissing and moaning.
Y'hear that, Folks! HR333!!! Dennis Kucinich. www.kucinich.us
IT'S ON THE FREAKIN' TABLE!!! Now back this hero of "WE"!
Has impeachment ever changed the system? It has and always has been a representative "democracy" that represents the money-power first and foremost. We can and should impeach these bastards, but they will be replaced unless we change the corrupt representative system. That is what Mike Gravel is here to fix. Please check out his website:
http://www.gravel2008.us/
Then check out the direct democratic Green Party, the party that takes no Big Money bribes:
http://www.gp.org/
Impeachment is a necessity. We need to not only end the presnt criminal madness but to send a firm message to others in the future that aggression under false pretenses, opportunism and complicity have a high price.
Of course impeachment is an option for Congress to use against a President who shows utter incompetence in office, and who manipulated the evidence to sucker us into this insane war. The wonder is why Pelosi, Reid, the media, and Democratic Party leaders have been so afraid to use it. Let's get on with it now, as highest priority. Removing Bush and Cheney from office would - - with utmost clarity - - stop this inhumane, pointless war, and provide enormous reassurance to a puzzled world that fears America has lost its moral compass and its will.
Impeach Cheney & Bush now.
Gravel? Kucinich?
They look a lot better to me than Clinton, Obama, or Edwards.
To paraphrase Thucydides (460BCca-395BCca):
Justice will not come to America until those who are not injured are as indignant as those who are injured.
Unfortunately, there are too many Republicans who are not yet indignant enough. Let us pray that the party in opposition comes to see the light. That light being that there is no light at the end of this Iraq War tunnel. It is indeed time to impeach those who lied us into a preventive war when there was nothing to prevent.
DCNations,
Re: wasnt it Jefferson who said a little civil war every now and then is a good thing?
It won't happen here. Watching how ordinary Americans have been manipulated by corporate America and how the options available to them have been reduced to "cooperate or you won't get fed" makes it much easier for me to understand how the "good Germans" could have allowed Hitler to happen. It's not that they were lazy or even uncaring. It's that making any impact would have entailed a life-concuming level of effort -- and that life would probably be a fairly short one to boot. Most people are simply not up to the job.
So they just try to get by as best they can while they watch their world descend into fascism. This is why Rome fell and Germany was destroyed. And this is why America will also either fall or be destroyed.
Here's something I don't understand.
I wrote letters to my congressmen (the shamed) Rick Renzi and my senators Kyl and McCain about putting the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on the budget, above board, and for all to see. What I was told by Kyl is that it was passed in the senate, so any war funding bill should only last until October's start of the '08 fiscal budget. So what is with them asking for more than what is required to get from June (when all separate funding sourced money supposedly will run out) and the end of September? Something is rotten in Denmark.
I am writing this so others will know about it and will ask their representatives as well.
As for McCain, the old codger wrote me back a letter about how critical our role is in Iraq and how he supports the President. Maybe John should be re-installed in another cell next to his commander's? He certainly doesn't deserve consideration for the highest office in the land when he can't stay on subject and/or answer a direct question!
Renzi was too busy stealing money in a land deal in which he implicated his wife (can you say moral turpitude, Rick?!!) to answer the letter.
The rich get richer at the expense of everyone else, and the poor and middle class? ...well "hurry up and die, then, but pay your AMT first!" seems to be their response. Has anyone else noticed the air of entitlement, omnipotence, and greed that comes from even newly elected representatives and senators once they get inside the beltway?
Congressman John Murtha of the hometown of my childhood, Johnstown, PA, is ready to stand up and say IMPEACH. I'd like to hear this echoing from the other representatives.
This Saturday at the Democratic State Convention in California, tables were sprinkled with nameplates saying, "Impeachment is On Our Table."
So, why is it so difficult to find any of our state legislators to author the re-introduction of AJR39, the bill to impeach both Bush and Cheney that now termed-out Assemblyman Paul Koretz courageously introduced last session??? (referred to Rules Cmte, it died at the end of the session, unheard, and unvoted on)
Those who have been contacted are all afraid of Speaker Fabian Nunez...that he is against it...So, to me that would mean that he's supporting Bush.
It's certainly not a noose that most Democrats who want to run for office again would want to have in their resume.
Where oh where have all the spines gone???
"Has anyone else noticed the air of entitlement, omnipotence, and greed that comes from even newly elected representatives and senators once they get inside the beltway?"
Yes, Don, I've noticed - big time! Same is true for rich people in general. Has something to do with protecting one's pile, I guess.
As for the person who mentioned Kucinich's call for impeachment - the reason it's not in the media is because the media is in cahoots with the powerbrokers (as Bill Moyers just proved). It's a true hat trick: 1) Coporate money and control, 2) Entitled and payed-for Congress, and 3) Corporate owned media that will not bite the hand that feeds it.
So, should we stick our tails between our legs and give up? Not this dog! Those who are pronouncing it all over are dead, IMO. Give up, and you may as well be 6 feet under. NOT THIS DOG!
Jefferson did not suggest that every generation have a Civil War - he suggested that every generation have a Revolution! And that is exactly what is called for. We are 3/4 of the way to a fascist state. IT IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION...NOW!
I can picture it like a tag-team wrestling match. Kucinich bringing the Impeachment smackdown on Cheney, Murtha to Bush. Funny thing is, little guy Kucinich is bringing all the fury. Murtha's just there to help with the clothesline.
Bear in mind, Kucinich is the instigator, the sole, primary force in the impeachment legislation. It's on the table, HR 333. Maybe the rest of the House will now catch on.
www.kucinich.us
Gasoline Boycott May 15, 2007.
Many thanks to all the folks offering reminders that Kucinich's articles of impeachment are already on the table. The effectiveness of the media blackout on this story has been amazing.
On a connected note, the media coverage of the Dems first debate was downright Orwellian. An MSN article particularly struck me. It lauded the participation, thoughtfulness, and depth of the "serious contenders" while dismissing Kucinich and Gravel. Anyone who actually watched it had to be appalled at the extent to which every candidate besides Kucinich and Gravel ducked every issue of substance. We have to pressure these politicos: impeachment now!
Let's not just threaten, let's do it. IMPEACH Cheney and Bush.
Davidsonjohn...The alleged debate was appalling! Kucinich and Gravel, as you said, provided substance and no cha-cha's around issues. The moderator was more interested in performing and patronizing the "big three" than doing what he was there for.
I'd sure love to see a count of number of times each were called on for an answer. It sure as hell seemed to me like the "Obama/Clinton/Edwards Show".
"Congressman John Murtha of the hometown of my childhood, Johnstown, PA, is ready to stand up and say IMPEACH. I'd like to hear this echoing from the other representatives."
Well, read what he said carefully, and don't get too carried away. Nothing Rep. Murtha said leads one to believe that he, or the House leadership, would actually support impeachment. What he did was generally list four ways Congress can influence the President, and he kept impeachment on the list. Then when asked to be clearer, he just repeated that vague statement.
So, don't hold your breath waiting for him to actually support impeachment. That was more of a vague warning shot that maybe someday, if Bush is really, really bad, that Mr. Murtha hasn't completely forgotten impeachment exists.
One thing is clear, if we want change, we have to go outside the regular channels. Because all the regular channels are blocked and obstructed to prevent citizens from creating change. So, we can't count on the corporate media to tell our stories, or the stories of the candidates we support, because they clearly only favor the candidates that will continue our current corporate rule. To do anything else wouldn't make any sense, and surely the corporations would fire anyone in the corporate media who didn't follow that rule. So we need our own communications. Nothing fancy. Email friends and family letting them know about Kucinich's impeachment bill, or about Sen. Gravel's debate performance. Call, talk, do whatever to let the people around you know what you know and that they don't if they get their news from the corporate media.
Likewise, don't expect the current politicians or parties to respond to you. Maybe we can change the Democratic Party, but I'm not sure we can count on it. Too me it looks way too much like a rigged game. Every process in the Democratic party is rigged to favor the people with the money and the people who are in power in the party. Grassroots participation is not allowed to change party policy nor to determine its important candidates.
After watching this game go around since at least before the 2000 elections, I think its clear that building our own part from the ground up, and building it in such a way that it supports the citizens of this country instead of the money, that's the best way to go. Then we can run a race where there's one true alternative candidate running against two bought and paid for corporate candidates. Let them split the vote between corporate republicans and corporate democrats while the real people vote for the real candidate.
Only, nothing is going to happen if we sit back and wait to see it on TV. Its gonna take us all getting off our collective asses and working to reclaim our democracy.
COMarc,
I share your frustration! Here are some things that all of us can do and will TRUELY make adifference and make our votes count:
About the Electoral College (winner take all) - Its days are numbered. The "Compact for Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote" has been signed off on by 47 states. Legislation has already been passed in several states and been signed by their governors. Legislation for the popular vote of the president is before all 47 states in their legislatures. The Electoral College may be a thing of the past BEFORE the '08 presidential election!!!
So get going in YOUR state! Go on over to nationalpopularvote.com and find out how you can support legislation in YOUR state. GO!!!! Make it happen THIS year!!!
Then when you get done with that, call, write, or e-mail your Congressional representatives and get them to support/sponsor the U.S. House Bill 3099 "Clean Money, Clean Elections". In the Senate, get them to support/co-sponsor the Durbin/Spector bill "Fair Elections Now Act". GO!!!
THEN, when your done with that, march on over to fairvote.org or Common Cause and see what other actions you can take to make further election and campaign finance reform a reality!! Instant Run-off Voting (IRV) is particulary important because it eliminates the "spoiler" effect, creates an avenue for qualified third party candidates, and gets the best people into office.
So much to do, and so little time!! GO!! Make your voice heard. Make it LOUD! LOUDER!!!! Raise hell and don't forget to laugh EVERY DAY!
Public opinion doesn't matter to George Bush and since he is already serving as president, elected or not, it would seem that Congress has two choices left: either keep the purse closed or impeach.
Do it and do it now.
I'll believe it when I see it!!! All the Democrats now are running from Special K like he's on fire and about to explode!!! These gutless bastards aren't about to shit in their own nests!!! If you want to impeach these bastards it will have to be from a massive petition of the American people to their Representatives in the House of Representatives. A 2/3ths vote of the people could do it. In other words, if enough of you
DEMAND it, it WILL happen, regardless of what the cowards want!
reclaim bushingrad!
There is absolutely no question that Bush and his gang of thugs must be impeached and then they must be arrested and tried for treason and then they must face an international tribunal for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Absolutely no question that this is a moral imperative and no one should say we should not start the process (thank you DK!) just because we don't "have the votes." What's right is right.
"PLEASE CALL Nancy Pelosi's office right now. Here's
the deal as forwarded to me:
> House Speaker Pelosi's office is taking calls voting
> for Impeachment of Bush/Cheney at 202-225-0100.
>
> Folks, each of you who have been wanting Impeachment,
> need to commit right now to ask at least 10 others to
> call and ask each person to commit to asking 10 others
> to call and so on. It needs to happen fast and NOW.
> Let's BLITZKREIG the Speaker's office with demands for
> Impeachment of Bush AND Cheney.
>
> Please make a call, and thanks so very much."
For the information of all whom the media have kept in the dark about the subject for the last week or so, Representative Dennis Kucinich Dem. Ohio, introduced three articles of impeachment against Cheney last Tuesday. This is official, and now we, as American citizens, need to do our part and pick up the phone, and call our elected representatives (remember they work for us --- NOT the other way around!)and tell them we want them to back Kucinich's House resolution 333. Without our voices, we are dead in the water. And deservedly so!
Impeachment is not nearly enough. There needs to be a trial and an execution for treason. It's not only about Iraq either, which to me is not the worst charge.
The World Trade Center Attacks of 9/11/01 could have and should have been nipped in the bud before any terrorist even thought of boarding a plane. However, despite having a great deal of advance warning, 3,000 people were killed by some guys with box-cutters. The fella who organized the attacks has ties to the president's family, and he has yet to be apprehended. Not to mention that Bush has stated that he doesn't care where Osama Bin Laden is.
Oh yeah, and let's also not forget the whole election caper that got Bush installed in the first place.
Let's face it, Dubbya and his Merry Thieves make Nixon and Crew look like a beacon of justice.
The people must really be sedated or are too busy shooting each other. You'd think that if someone tried to assassinate JFK and Reagan that someone would have tried to take Dubbya out by now. It's not as if he doesn't deserve it.
Pelosi's voice mail is full.
I'm convinced . . . "nuff said . . .
Ask yourself why he would veto everything he wants with a non-binding resolution. It's not like he cared about principle when he signed the signing statements.
Nixon for his plumbers and Clinton with his pipe were impeachable offenses. Now don't you think a war because of lies might qualify?
1.3billion April 30th, 2007 2:23 pm
VERY WELL Stated....
I couldn't have alluded to important issues, better myself....
What is wrong with you, America? You impaech Bill Clinton for sexual peccadillos which really affected very few people but refuse to do so for the criminals currently in the White House, criminals who, for personal financial gain (or for their friends gain - Clinton's offence had no financial gain for anyone) have detrimentally affected just about every American and the majority of other people on the planet by their crimes against the law, against morality, against the American people, against the other peoples of teh world etc etc - too numerous and well known. They have cause and will continue to cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and maimings all for personal profit.
The Congress which was elected to stop these despicable creatures pretends to take action but does so in a fashion which will not offend the same big rich friends that Bush is running and ruining America and the world for. To teh rest of us outside America, America is the Congress and the President - they were, after all democratically elected by American citizens. The America represented by Congress/President is regarded outside the US with contempt and disgust for their actions over the last five years. And they represent Americans and people do not discriminate between a country and its people.
Many many non-US people who used to regard the US and its people with friendly eyes no longer do so. I know that many Americans say they do not care and don't need friends from outside. That may be so, but it will be a long long time and require a massive effort for the US to regain many of those friends. It is very sad but until America shows that it is prepared to do something meaningful about Bush and Cheney (as opposed to the ineffectual farce that Congress is playing out at the moment) it will be regarded with contempt and disgust.
Of course, another way to gain respect is for America to stop the hypocritical statement that it stands for rule of law, decency, morality and fair play - at least it would gain respect for its honesty