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Detainee Says He Confessed to Stop US Torture
The terrorism suspect contends he was forced to admit to a role in the Cole bombing. A military law expert isn't surprised.
WASHINGTON - A detainee accused of being Al Qaeda's Persian Gulf operations chief said in court that his U.S. captors tortured him for years and forced him to falsely confess to the bombing of the U.S. destroyer Cole and to many other terrorist plots, according to a Pentagon transcript released Friday.Abd al Rahim al Nashiri , a Saudi of Yemeni descent, told a military board at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that he had nothing to do with the bombing of the warship in Yemen in 2000 - or with any other terrorist activity.
Speaking under oath, he said he made up a long list of Al Qaeda plots and attacks so his captors would stop torturing him, even telling interrogators that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had a nuclear bomb.
"I just said those things to make the people happy. But when they freed me, I told them all, 'I only told you these things to make you happy,' " Nashiri said at a March 14 hearing held by military officials to determine if he should be designated as an enemy combatant and tried before a military commission.
Nashiri, 42, said his U.S. captors began torturing him as soon as he was arrested in November 2002 in the United Arab Emirates; the torture stopped, he said, when he was transferred from secret CIA custody to Guantanamo last September along with 13 other "high value" detainees. Among them was confessed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
In an unclassified summary of the evidence against him, military officials said Nashiri was an experienced terrorist operative with significant military and explosives training. They said he played an important role in the Cole bombing, which killed 17 U.S. sailors as the ship refueled in the port of Aden.
The evidence summary also linked Nashiri to the bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa in 1998 that killed at least 224 people, and said he is suspected of masterminding the October 2002 attack on the French oil tanker Limburg.
Nashiri's hearing was the first time that an accused Al Qaeda detainee in U.S. custody has made such detailed allegations that have become public. Legal experts said they raise new and serious questions about how torture claims will affect the judicial process now beginning for captives in the Bush administration's 5-year-old global counterterrorism campaign.
Eugene R. Fidell, a military law expert and critic of administration detainee policies, said Nashiri's claims - true or not - are not surprising because there have been allegations of CIA torture of Al Qaeda detainees for years.
But Nashiri's assertions were made during an official U.S. military justice proceeding, Fidell said. Unless the Bush administration, Congress, Pentagon and CIA address the allegations in some formal way, they could undermine the legitimacy of upcoming military commission proceedings for Nashiri and other Al Qaeda leaders, he said.
"People knew that this was going to be an issue, and here's the proof," said Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice. "Someone has got to get to the bottom of these allegations. If there is nothing there, fine. If there is something there, they are going to need to address it."
During his hearing, Nashiri said through a translator that his captors tortured him while questioning him. "One time they tortured me one way, and another time they tortured me in a different way," he said.
Mohammed, during a similar hearing this month, claimed responsibility for terrorist plots that included the 1993 World Trade Center attack, the 2002 bombings of nightclubs in Indonesia and the so-called shoe-bomber plot to down U.S. airliners. At his hearing, he hinted that he had been tortured. But the bulk of his allegations were heard during the classified portion of his proceeding and have not been made public.
Without commenting on Nashiri's specific claims, CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said Friday: "The United States does not conduct or condone torture, and the agency's terrorist interrogation program has been implemented lawfully, with great care and close review. It has produced vital information that has helped disrupt plots and save lives."
The military officials who presided over Nashiri's hearing, whose names were redacted from the transcript, said they would investigate his claims of torture. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman declined to comment on the allegations but said they would be "fully investigated" by the Department of Defense.
Curt Goering, Amnesty International USA's senior deputy executive director, said that a thorough and credible investigation of Nashiri's allegations must be done before any Al Qaeda operatives are tried.
"One of the most elementary precepts of the rule of law is the absolute inadmissibility in any legitimate legal proceeding of any shred of evidence obtained by torture," Goering said. "Although the Pentagon has said they will investigate, given the Bush administration record so far on these matters, it strains credulity that any such investigation would be anything other than substandard, or [that] those responsible would be held accountable."
Specific details of Nashiri's alleged torture were not included in the 36-page transcript of his hearing before a Combatant Status Review Tribunal; there was also a classified hearing for which a transcript has not been released. Some of his claims appeared to be redacted by U.S. government censors, who had delayed the release of the transcript for a week, saying they were still reviewing it.
At a briefing Friday with reporters, Pentagon spokesman Whitman said any redactions of information in the transcript were made in the interest of national security.
At least four U.S. military officers participated in the hearing, but they spent virtually all of their time asking Nashiri about details of the alleged plots and not about his claims of torture.
There is little doubt that U.S. officials will designate Nashiri as an enemy combatant. At the very least, one U.S. counterterrorism official said Friday, "There is extremely strong information from multiple sources that this individual was key to the Cole bombing and other maritime plots."
Nashiri denied those accusations during his hearing and said he made up the claim that Bin Laden had a nuclear bomb. He also said he made up Al Qaeda plans to bomb American ships in the Gulf and a plan to hijack a plane and crash it into a ship.
But in several often-rambling comments and answers, he made many incriminating statements.
Nashiri said he knew virtually all of the players known to be involved in the Cole bombing and other Al Qaeda plots. He said he visited Bin Laden often, and that the Al Qaeda leader gave him as much as $500,000 over the years for personal expenses and business deals.
In turn, Nashiri said, he gave much of that to other known militants who probably used the funds to carry out Al Qaeda attacks.
"But I'm not responsible if they take the money and they go and fight or do something else" related to terrorism, Nashiri told the military hearing officers.
Asked if he had ever trained in an Al Qaeda camp or swore allegiance to Bin Laden, Nashiri said he had not.
But he admitted meeting many Al Qaeda operatives while visiting "the battlefields" in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Chechnya and elsewhere.
Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times



22 Comments so far
Show AllPlease do not close Gitmo just yet. Send home the current captives with adequate compensation and then check in Bush, Cheney, Rice, et al.for an extended stay undergoing strenuous Gitmo-style physical activities.
It's time to close GITMO and jail the criminals who started it. Now.
Give GITMO back to Fidel. General Torture Memo et al. have more important things to do - like clearing land mines and cluster bombs - barefoot.
I don't think anyone is fooled by these so-called confessions anymore. David Hicks, the Australian detainee, had to agree to a gag order about his treatment at Gitmo in order to get the hell out of there.
The statement by CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano Friday where he said: "The United States does not conduct or condone torture, and the agency's terrorist interrogation program has been implemented lawfully, with great care and close review. It has produced vital information that has helped disrupt plots and save lives." Is true - that is, if you define torture the way the Bush administration has defined it. Without looking for some direct qoutes, and if my memory serves me well, torture according to this administration is only torture if there is organ failure or death. That leaves plenty of room for torture as the world understands this cruel method of treating detainees.
I'm getting so tired of writing the words: shame, embarrassment, disgusted, and many others when I have to write about the criminals running this country into the ground. I am now praying that the justice system hasn't been co-opted so much at this point that these and other acts commited since Bush the Idiot entered the White House are allowed to be carried out without true justice being served.
What the hell has happened to us? We the people share some of the blame for complacency because we all knew that elections are bought and paid for by wealthy corporations, wealthy people and vote suppression. The media shares an enormous amount of blame for not doing their job. Television has also much of the blame for bringing us garbage to see and absorb like vegetables.
Blame. blame. blame. I'm tired of having to blame people -myself included. As I wrote before, I think the only way we are going to attract the attention of everyone is to have a nationwide strike. Just stay home. This way, the police can't make any arrests, there will be no need for violence, and no speeches will be needed. Just everyone who is sick of the way things are need do is to stay at home for a day.
I assure you, this would be noticed and can't be ignored or twisted by any politician or other group. A nation wide strike is what we need to do.
More news that isn't. Torture isn't about getting to the truth anymore than rape is about getting off sexually. It is about indulging ones hatred for self and others by finding someone--anyone--to victimize. Come to think of it that is exactly what terrorist attrocities are about--so who is really "winning" the fictional "war on terrorism" ? Absolutely nobody.
Hybridoma--I'm with you--When shall we do it? How shall we get the word out to as many as possible to join you and I?
I remember as a child that a lot of us kids would skip school on the opening day of the baseball season. To this day, it's a common thing for many to leave work so they can attend the first game of the baseball season.
Why not make it opening day of this year's baseball season? It's America's national pastime. We could all sing the Star Spangled Banner with real feeling - for those who go to the game. It's a great excuse to miss work.
So perhaps that would be the perfect day. It would have a lot of symbolic appeal as well. Ignoring for a while that we haven't ever been saints as far as nations go, it would have that symbolic image of baseball and those days of childhood innocence; when our collective souls felt cleaner and life was simpler. Baseball in general embodies so much American myth and has so many heroes. And we always rooted for the underdog or stood by your team through the good times as well as the bad. Baseball brings people and families together. It's the most multicultural sport I can think of: from the players on up to the managers.
I know I'm not including woman here but, it's the best I can do.
I still think of my favorite player of all time: Roberto Clemente, who died in a tragic plane accident helping brings supplies to people after a devasating hurricane. And I'm sure we all had our own heroes when we were children. I still admire Pete Rose despite the allegations against him. None of us are perfect. However, we all have to be responsible and held accountable for our actions.
Also, there's nobody who's going to stop anyone from attending a game.
It's time for a new season in America. It's time for a new manager and umpires. Let's make it opening day across the nation and we can all show our patriotism. After all, to not like baseball is just plain unamerican.
Oops! Big mistake on my part. I'm teaching in another country right now and I was thinking there were still a few days before opening day. Apparently that isn't the case. So maybe that idea is a none starter.
But it would be easy to get the word out rapidly. And it's an easy decision to make. Nobody has to travel anywhere too distant, and it's a very easy decision to make. You don't have to risk the problems involved with demonstrations in cities or get permission to hold one. You only need to decide to stay home for one day. No risk is involved.
Maybe someone else can come up with an alternative idea.
Sorry!
How about July 4th - Independence Day! I know that the 4th is a national holiday and most people have the day off anyway, but it is also a huge shopping day and the stores are open. I know it seems like a long time away, but it would give us time to organize and get the word out. Look, if the entire country of Australia can get it's act together and turn off the lights for an hour, it seems to me that America could get their act together. Maybe we could even make turning off the lights part of the event. We could all just stand in the glow of the fireworks!
The 'Blue Flu' is a great idea - but how many people would really participate? Too many have good - great - excuses, such as 'I can't afford it' - but Iraqis can't afford it either, and they lose more than just their pay. They're losing their lives, by the thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands - maybe even millions. We really don't know, do we?
"Hope is the confusion of the desirability of a thing with it's probability. If this soothing and sanguine quality, called hope, is lost through repeated misfortune and the person is even brought to the point of believing that what he does not want to happen must happen and what he wants to happen can never happen simply because he wants it, then this condition is called despair."--Schopenhauer
This is exactly wrong. Mere misfortune has no power to sicken the soul, but if what was believed in as good and true and right is seen to be corrupt or even empty, then the person's being is a lie--this is despair.
No true patriot can avoid the obvious: that her nation's leadership is no less corrupt than was Nazi Germany's in 1939. We cannot do nothing and still call ourselves patriots. July 4 is the appropriate day, but employees of stores should not have to bear the whole burden.
July 4 should be a day on which NOBODY BUYS ANYTHING. No Paper, no gas, no food, nothing. Buy what you need before the fourth in order to stay at home--a small sacrifice that could send a huge message.
April 28 is National Impeachment Day. Folks can get more information at http://a28.org/ and more general info at http://AfterDowningStreet.org
At the Backbone Campaign, we have been working to indict both the criminals and their agenda. Our mostcreative and photographed accountability effort is the Bush Chain Gang.Go directly to http://bushchaingang.org.
Though I'm alll for the July 4th suggestion above, my personal preference for a National strike is March 4th, 2008 (seems so far away). March 4th, besides being a great play on words - march forth - it is the day in 1789 when the Constitution went into efect. We (the Backbone Campaign) did a pretty impressive job claiming that day in Seattle in 2007. We have a site up at http://WeThePeopleMarch4th.org
Sorry for all this "Self promotion, but we do need to find a meaningful way to hold the criminals who've destroyed any semblance of US moral authority, caused the deaths of ontold tens of thousands and endebted & endangered generations to come accountable in a manner commensurate with their crimes.
Okay! So we're agreed on July 4th. And I really like the boycott idea. It could be especially effective if the U.S. went dark for a couple of hours when only the fireworks would light the sky! Can you imagine the satalite pictures? Way cool!
Okay, so how do we get this thing organized? Which sites could really rally the people and/or get this in the media as a peaceful protest? I'm going to go on over to Act For Change and see if I can stir up some interest. Can we get anything going here at Common Dreams? What about Salon or The Nation?
Help me out here kids! Let's make this happen!! We need to find a place to keep this thread going. Any ideas?
Rebel Farmer, et al. I too was thinking of what other possible day such a demonstation could happen. I thought of Memorial Day as well as the Fourth of July. To wait much longer I feel would be to wait too long. I agree with Nietzsche and Rebel Farmer. The Fourth of July would be the best date and it would hold the most signifigance because of the meaning of the holiday - the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
There are many other good reasons. The people who can't afford to miss work wouldn't be affected. In fact, if everyone paticipated, they would basically have the day off. Boring, no doubt, but a relaxed day.
And Nietzsche, the idea of picking up the things needed beforehand would still allow people to celebrate, they'd just need to plan ahead a bit.
As you said Rebel, if the people of Australia can tun off the lights, why can't we do the same? And of course, if this were to tuly work, NOBODY SHOULD BUY ANYTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! And perhaps maybe we could get enough people to NOT attend a ball game on this day. Let the stadiums remain empty.
The last time I was involved in a nationwide strike was in Spain many years ago. Things went fairly smooth. However, there were groups of people making sure that no shop owners opened their doors for business and this led to some limited vandalism. Somehow, this needs to be presented to the people in a way that will appeal to their patriotism - their duty to their country. And maybe, just maybe, we could get 80% or more of the people to participate.
Finally, where can we keep this thread happening? I have a few ideas. I'll be back with some more information.
Skipping back to the article for a moment, why else did the CIA organize all these rendition flights taking their prisoners to other countries when Gimigliano says they don't condone torture? Are we supposed to believe CIA agents just enjoy flying around? At the taxpayer's expense? Not to mention the cost to what used to be our national honor?
July 4th idea sounds good to me. I live and work overseas, representing US businesses and don't close on July 4th but I could put up an automatic answer to incoming e-mails to explain why I'm "out of the office" this year.
Keep the ball rolling!!! I noticed that Nietzsche is posting the 4th idea in comments to other articles here at Common Dreams. All of us should do the same!
Waiting to hear from you Hybridoma for your ideas.
Thanks all!!!
You all miss the point - using just a holiday won't work - this has to continue in order to work. I saw it happen in Spain too - it wasn't just one holiday - the trains stopped as did everything else, and it went on, day after day. A general strike is a powerful weapon, not a fashion statement. Somebody has to be in front of every store, in every parking lot, bank, post office, etc to explain what's happening to the mindless robots who just go through their lives ignoring what's happening to this country - and the rest of the world as a result of this newest reincarnation of the Third Reich. That's where organization is important - many people will support us if they know what's at stake.
If this is just about the 4th of July, it's a waste of time - it has to hit the wallet or it doesn't work. It has to be painful or it doesn't work. You're all looking for the easy way out - that's real desperation. That's how we got into this mess - too many people putting their own self-interests above that of the whole - our society.
Staying home is the ultimate act of civil disobedience - but I doubt if many people have the courage to stand up to the monsters bent on looting and destroying the world. And buying stuff ahead of time does nothing to stem the flow of money going straight into their pockets - you're just rearranging the deck chairs.
If we don't start now, then when? We're all going to lose our jobs, our choices, and even our homes if these criminals aren't stopped. Anyone who saw the mighty Third Reich after the war knows what's in store for us - we're going to lose it all anyway if we don't fight back. This isn't about politics anymore - this is about survival.
armybrat - We have to start somewhere! And we won't ever get anything done if we expect perfection. I agree that more than one action will be needed. But just getting ONE off the ground would be an amazing feat!
Rebel Farmer: There have been lots of 'actions' over the last 5 years - but none of them have done much good because they are just holiday events. I'm not expecting perfection, but in Europe the syndicates (and people) do what works - general strikes on working days. The rest is just window-dressing and feel-good ploys. People would be surprised at how much can be accomplished with just a couple days of non-compliance - but it takes nation-wide co-operation. Remember how they killed the unions in this country - by marginalizing them as 'local' - it has to go beyond that. I just don't think enough people are ready yet to risk their jobs - but it's not going to get any easier tomorrow, or the day after. This madness has kept going, year after miserable year, because nobody wants to admit to the elephant in the livingroom: a general strike works, and it must be national, and on working days.
armybrat - you sound pretty defeated and have lost hope. But you can't give up!!! This is not 5, or even 1 year ago. The polititions are actually feeling the heat. Because of the activism in my state (Oregon) we actually got our Repub Senator to vote the people and not his party on the Supplemental bill last week. It really is a new day. There is hope! Put your energy to election and campaign finance reform and you will find that we the people are actually getting fundamental change. It's happening NOW, and we're WINNING the fight!
Wander on over to fairvote.org, commoncause.org, and/or nationalpopularvote.com and get involved. You will be amazed at the REAL progress we are making.
Backbone - Are you the folks who are giving out the Spine Awards and Backbone citations? If so I've seen your work and it's GREAT!!!!